Were the 90s really as magical as people paint them?
yeah they were pretty good.
>>12141685Yes. I've finally accepted that I'll never again be as happy as I was in '99
>>12141685Even more. It was a time of unprecedented progress, success, and optimism. We got entire video game handhelds with a $1.99 Happy Meal in 1994.
>>12141685As a child yes>Disney Renaissance >Kids media could still be dark and adult things could still be marketed to kids>Living off VHS and TV so saw all the classic 70s-80s movies>Action figures hit their peak in quality and affordability >Comic books weren't the all time classics but we're peak appealing to target demo of straight young boys>Video games basically at peak for sheer quality and most definitive series either were born here or had major hallmarks here80s would have been better to be an adolescent or teen-young adult because the 90s ushered in the self hate emo white guilt movement, but as a kid not interested in subcultures yes the 90s was peak
>>12141698That Happy Meal is from like 2004 or something IIRC, in the 90s we had this Sonic Happy Meal
>>12141685Yes
>>12141698Calling those video game handhelds is a huge stretch
>>12141746That's how it felt to me as a kid.
shit was gay as fuck
>>12141685I was born in the 80s and grew up in the 90s. Early 2000s were cool as well but it’s been getting worse ever since.It’s a mix of having the internet in your pocket, a lack of sense of humor about life, recycling levels on culture approaching 100% and stagnant tech full of DRM.
>>12141723>yfw you always got the knuckles toy
>>12141685https://youtu.be/ckvnRB6IHSU?feature=shared
>>12141801I had the Sonic toy but didn't have the flame base that actually made him go fast, so I had to roll him around manually like some cuck playing on the floor with his hot wheels
>>12141801>>12141812lmao
>>12141685yes
>>12141685No, the 80s mogged the hell out of them.
Yes.>>12141685>>12141723>>12141750I had these.
>I LOVE THE '90S!
>>12141685The early and mid-90s were great, the late 90s started to get kind of shitty
>>12141728>makes the word "is" not mean "is"Truly magical
Everything is great compared to the absolute dogshit that is the 2020s.
>>12141685FUCK this model. seriously, fuck it.
im inclined to say yes but i also grew up then and everyone says that
>>12141685I grew up in the 90s and it was such a good time to be alive that I then remember September 11 happening in 2001 and not understanding what a "terrorist" was, even though I was already in high school at that point.
>>12142468one of my teachers in high school used the term towel head openly after 9/11. it wasnt even like surprising or funny or anything. just normal
>>12141685Yeah, especially for gaming. We went from the NES to the Dreamcast, with the PS2 a few months away. Until we invent actual holodecks, no other generation will ever know that kind of transformational leap in technology.
>>12141685They had those 3D dinosaur magazines in Japan as well?
I had that glow in the dark t-rex as a child
>>12142498Me too.
>>12141698>1994>Shadow>Green-Eyes Sonic>Super Monkey Ballglobal rule 2
>>12142490It really was insane. Like watching people ride horse and buggy to driving cars.
>>12142475I remember a dj at one of the radio stations around here was talking between songs and he mentioned another soldier dying in Afghanistan. He was upset and said something he didn't even understand why we sent anyone over there, that we have the bombs and we should just turn the entire middle east into a parking lot. Then right into another song. Like you said, normal.
I remember being bored all the time until the late 1990s, when we finally got internet access and I could dive into almost any game or piece of media.
>>12141685Yes it waszoomers will never understand
>>12141691>Yes. I've finally accepted that I'll never again be as happy as I was in '99I would be content to live 1999 and 2000 on a loop endlessly for the rest of my life
>>12141685If you were a kid, yes. Everything felt new and cool and you had this sense that things would just keep getting better and the internet was going to bring world peace.Unironically so happy I was a 90s kid.
>>12142585>I remember getting bored all the timeUnderrated reply. Yes, too much boredom could really make you crazy, but we kids (and adults) don’t get enough of it now. Being bored was when you discovered things or found something unexpected to do or get interested in. Nowadays all that potential energy is just sucked up by gay social media smartphone addiction.
>>12141685as someone who grew up in the 90s i felt stuff from the 80s & 2000s were better.>>12141794i'd argue that the 2010s were okay if you ignored the terminally online and actually went outside once in a while but the 2020s is when things started getting worse imo because being terminally online and other jobless behaviors got more normalized and it's when the results of dodge vs ford (the case where shareholders have all the power in corporate decisions) really started affecting people the most.
>>12141685I was a kid then so it seemed good.
>things were better before I became a depressed, jaded and cynical has beenyou and every other human who's ever lived
>>12142231>1985 was 100 years ago
>>12142468that just called "having an american education"
>>121422311990 was actually 35 years ago.
>>12142921If you can't see that the internet and social media caused a major shift in the way people live then you may be retarded.
>>12142939AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH>>12141685no, they were even better. peak of civilisation, there were jobs, affordable housing, nobody was racist even if they said nigger it wasn't to be hateful, blockbuster movies every weekend, shops full of people, nightlife booming, plenty of shit for everyone to do, peak gaming, food was of good quality and size, we were on a roll and nothing could stop us except for the rich who decided to milk it every which way they could and destroy the whole thing shamelessly and unapologetically in just a couple decades. it's actually impressive what parasites they were, and yet we are the parasites somehow, the people that made those times great, that want to return and bring back what we lost. i think most people who live through such a transition come out the other end with a hardened heart or not at all.
nope. no halo yet.
>>12142912>2010s were okayAbsolutely not and the 2020s are an extension of them.We saw the death of geek and internet subcultures in the early 10s.
>>12141685>plastic t-rexwe used to make our own handcraft dinosaur fossils from plywood back in the 80s.
>>12141685no, people idealize their youth years, millennials grew up and now is their turn to see their adolescent years with rose tinted glasses.
So which is it then? Just nostalgia?But it's true that the pre-internet world was basically a different planet.
>>12142961It's odd that zoomers so desperately want to be part of the millennial (and late gen x) but when you tell them what we had or didn't have they start pretending it's no different to their childhood/adolescence. >>1214296400s were better.
>>12143018not by any meaningful metric they weren't, i'll wait for your argument
>>1214301800s were the beginning of the end, I was a teen then and the only thing good about it was the PS2
>>12143061Wat.6th gen consoles, cheap internet, forums very much alive and contained to their niches away from IRL, all the "retro" consoles were cheap as fuck, 2 wings and chips was £1 and a full meal was just £2 including a drink. Even after 9/11 there was this optimistic charge to everything.
>>12142691'96 was the high point of the 90s for me, there was a lot of great music and everything was relaxed. It's a meme but the quality of the consumer experience does make a huge difference in quality of life, they used to make stuff good so you would buy it then you enjoyed it because it was good. Fuck knows what is going on now
>>1214309400s were shit and everything you said was more true of the 90s, the internet was high-IQ only, forums were full of literal datachads who knew fucking everything and if you brought nothing to the table you could fuck off, your goyslop was cheaper too. You'd have to be a retarded child to prefer the 00s
>>12141728That fag stole social security surpluses to "pay off" the deficit. Fuck him.
>>12141685They were even better really.Give me a time machine and put me somewhere in the second half of 1994. I'd never leave.
>>12143962in other words he balanced the budget? good. wish our current president would do so
>>12142553>we should just turn the entire middle east into a parking lotThey'd honestly be better off now if we had. Fucking mess over there.
>>12143936I wholeheartedly agree with this post
>>12143094>2 wings and chips was £1In the 90s we had nickel wing nights. You could buy 20 wings for $1, not just 2.
>>1214168590s were the fucking best, even the first half of the 2000s were pretty good
>>12143925There was so much optimism for the future in the late 90s
>>12141685>>12142979>plasticI remember having an identical rex but it was made of wood, still see some street vendors with these type of wood models>>12142992nostalgia definitely plays a part. but it's hard to deny that things are so much more chaotic and low effort these days. for kids growing up now their role models are grifting youtubers who monetize everything and their favorite games are brainrot reactslop, and they don't play creatively with toys because why bother when you're born with a smartphone. shit's grim
>>12141685The late 80's to mid 90's was pretty fucking awesome. Think about how much kids got in really cool Christmas gifts considering inflation. It's actually nuts.
>>12141723I'd rather have the Sonic Happy Meal. Those are even better.
>>12141891You just had bad parents.
>>12142973>We saw the death of geek and internet subcultures in the early 10soh no...and? at least those faggots were quarantined to tumblr & /pol/ back then.i'd rather have a bunch of nerd shit getting popular than the brainrot that has infected everything we have now.
>>12142585Why did you lack imagination? Or did you just not have anything? I used to reorganize my room all the time. Probably drove my parents nuts moving the couch by my self in there.Yes I had a very large bedroom for a child. No we weren't rich, but we actually were middle class in the late 80's. Then global trade started to ramp up. And that shit really hurt my father's trade.
>>12143936>the internet was high-IQ onlyPeople really don't understand that. It took money, dedication, and know how to access the internet and do anything back then. People don't understand what kind of communities that created. Things were okay for a while and then the iPhone happened...
>>12144796>at least those faggots were quarantined to tumblr & /pol/ back then.Dumbass has no idea what he's talking about.
>>12143925material prices have all gone to shit, my parents used to have fancy wooden tables and dinner chairs, now wood stuff is expensive to get, and it's all glued together sawdust.
>>12144880My parents used to have a fancy wooden kitchen table. Now they have a wooden kitchen table that needs sanded and refinished. Are you sure your parents had fancy wooden tables?
>>12141685I remember those dinosaur pseudo-skeleton kits being made of wood
>>12141685cigarettes for a dollar a pack was magicalwhere on earth can I travel to and they'll have good quality cigarettes with no sin tax
>>12144798I'm from Eastern Europe, so I probably had far fewer things than you.
no, the 90's were just normal. The problem is everything just gradually got shitter.Even the 00's is increasingly looking like some high watermark of society at this point, and the 00's were like the disappointing sequel to the 90's, even at the time.
>>12141685Yes. The early internet was essentially whites only. It’s something that will never be experienced again. Playing MUDs on dial up after getting home from school. Doing some grinding and resting in town (some made you “rest” to encourage interaction with other players) and talking to people also resting from their grind or just hanging out.
>>12141685-the sheer amount of cartoons/shows from the late 80s to the entire 90s, to early 2000's was insane.-EVERYTHING got toys because tablets/netflix didn't exist and parents weren't afraid to leave their kids outside yet.-arcades existed.-internet was early in the 90s so everything was message boards and game-specific sites because there was no hub sites like 4chan/reddit. search engines weren't fake/paid yet and you could find so many fucking fan sites. it was entirely different because loading 1 porn image could take minutes.-gaming especially was amazing in the 90s. we went from the peak of nes, getting snes, starting 3d with n64 and ended with gamecube in 2001.basically if you were a 90s kid, you saw gaming start with primitive but playable 2d, good 2d, early 3d, decent 3d and then basically fucking current gen gaming.this is why everything is aimed at 90s.
>>12141685>magicalyes. Because there was genuine excitement, like every single month. Because exciting new gaming stuff happened in abundance. All the freaking time. This wild excitement which drove the 90s is completely absent from todays gaming landscape, Also internet hijacked peoples dopamine. So nothing that could happen today would be truly exciting any longer. Simply because gaming people are constantly in a dopamine deficit now.
>>12142231>1990 being 20 years ago was 15 years ago
>>12141685>Were the 90s really as magical as people paint them?No, in reality they were even better.
>>12145347cursed image, i hate that i know what it is
>>1214168594. Nuff said.
>>12141691Early 90's and Late 90's were very fun. I also had a lot of fun in the 00's probably because I was middle schooler thru late teen. Great time for electronic dance music and gaming in generalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISmmZiuMxyo
>>12142980>no, people idealize their youth years, millennials grew up and now is their turn to see their adolescent years with rose tinted glasses.Ok, yes, everyone does this to some extent. But there really was something different about being a kid in the late 80s and 90s because the world catered to you in a way that was unthinkable just one generation before. A lot of boomers turned parenting into a pro sport and were reaching for mvp status; the economy definitely oriented itself to facilitate and take advantage of that mindset.
>>12142980>90s video games getting remasters>90s tv shows getting reboots and revivals>90s fast food items returning>zoomers crying that they didnt get to experience the 90sRose tinted my ass. Everyone knows the 90s were special.I never gave a single shit about the 60s or 70s as a kid. I enjoyed living in my time, zoomers can't. Even my boomer relatives, literally born in the 50s-60s talk about how good the 90s were.
>>12145536I was adolescent in the 00's tbf, and there was a sense even then that we were getting away from something. I remember getting to about 2005, and just feeling like things were getting shitty.I don't think it's even that the 90's were that good. The 90's were baseline normal. Probably not very different to growing up in any decade since the 50'sI think 9/11 probably did something to people psychologically (and not just 9/11, but the things it lead to. The wars, the surveillance state, the creeping self-loathing of "the West" over those first two). It was subtle at first, but basically all of the life and the joy just drained out of everything, and people coalesced around some political extreme or another to try to regain a sense of stability and belonging.
>>12142001This. The mid 80s to mid 90s was really the magic decade.
>>12144796>oh no...and? at least those faggots were quarantined to tumblr & /pol/ back then.>i'd rather have a bunch of nerd shit getting popular than the brainrot that has infected everything we have now.Your post doesn't even make sense. Do zoomers even have their own interests and subcultures or is it just what is popular on tiktok?This is the same as when newfags come into 4chan disliking anime the literal reason why 4chan was created.
>>12145180... yea. :( I used to just get really cool shit handed to me for free from people just not wanting their junk because we had so much space to store shit growing up. Times were way different thirty years ago.
>>12145227I just watched a batch of retro commercials and saw a bumper ad for cartoons starting at 7:30am on Saturdays. I forgot they used to give kids reasons to get up early on the weekends.
>>12146043I used to get up at 6 AM on Saturdays to watch the syndication dub (aka the "Ocean dub" )of DBZ
>>12145608I agree about 9/11, but my point is the 90s were special insofar as society—in america and westernized countries—was more than ever geared towards children: entertaining them, enriching them, ensuring their safety and well-being, etc. Society wasn't like that before or since. I was an adolescent in the 00s, too, the way kids were treated in the 90s was gone by 05; the safety-first culture went overboard.
>>12146109Neat. When I was around four or five. I used to get up at 5am with my father when he got up for work. And I'd watch pirated Disney on Galaxy 1 Transponder 20 something. I liked that we could enjoy really expensive shit like that but we weren't actually wasting money on it. The only thing bad about it was I didn't have access to the right magazines to find out what shows were airing when. And I wasn't smart enough to use the phone or ask my dad to figure it out. Show times were always a mystery to me.
>>12146146Appointment TV for kids feels like it's been dead for a while now but man, nothing was more crushing than missing the latest episode of TMNT on Saturday morning because you had a soccer game or something. Now my kids can watch the same damn episode of Paw Patrol 10 times in a row if they wish. I feel like a total old man here but I had a lot less than today's kids but I definitely appreciated what I had more.
>>12146162I feel like we had a lot more. Having access to everything all at once isn't a good thing. The most I ever repeatedly watched something was the one X-Men cartoon vhs tape from Pizza Hut. I used to binge watch that to force time to pass when I was waiting for something like a birthday party to start or something. It doesn't make you enjoy what you're watching more. It just makes time fade away.
>>12146125is it lesser now? Feels like people are absolutely terrified of letting their kids do anything now.
>>12145753and then a r*dd*tor will post trash man image with all the boards and just circle the anime ones like that matters
>>12142930obsessed
>>12141719I still watch Beast Wars
>>12141685Another thing about the video games that I haven't seen mentioned...The evolution of gaming moved SO fast compared to today. I remembered reading magazines in 1994 or so and it looked like gaming would be going from 2D sidescrollers to fully realized 3D worlds in just a couple years. We went from Mario World to GTA 3 in a decade. There were so many systems and graphical styles and experimental games trying to take advantage of the new CD format and feel out what the future was going to be. It was exciting and thumbing through a new EGM or GameFan was legitimately thrilling..
I'm so jelly of you 90sfags.t. born in 1999
>>12146216Yea, now we have games that are twenty years old that look better and play better than what's coming out now. It's fucking pathetic.
>>12142490If we ever get a true AI, it will be an even bigger and faster change.
>>12146232born in the mid 80s here. I can understand why you would be jealous. At least you're still in your 20s, be grateful for that. aging is so awful.
>>12141812KekI used to do the same shit with my hot wheels that you're talking about. My dad would step on them sometimes when I left them out. Then I'd get my ass beat for it later.I'm basically a furry today because of him and my obsessive need for speed. Although he did once say that rouge the bat had 'nice tits' when he saw me playing adventure 2.
>>12141685It was pretty sweet, 3rd worlders didn't have the internet yet. However, the 90s were full of reminants of 80s culture like a neon pink and green mush.
>>12146172>is it lesser now?No, it’s way, way more. In the 90s there was great balance between letting kids be kids and keeping them safe (though it was already creeping towards too much safety). The things our parents drilled into us the most were being wary of strangers and being aware of traffic. We still rode bikes, went outside and got into lots of things unsupervised. That’s the difference from the last 20 years or so: everything kids do today is so supervised, regimented, scheduled, etc. Example: Halloween. In 1999, plenty of kids went out trick or treating together, did their thing, came home. Now, even for kids the same age as those back then, the parents are right there, walking down the middle of the street, always corralling the kids and telling them this house, not that one, how much candy they are limited to, etc. Out of maybe 150 kids, only one set was totally unchaperoned.>>12147589Truth. The third world getting the internet was a catastrophe for mankind. People just continue to elide over the fact that the classic 90s-early 2000s Internet everyone pines for was the product of a small subset of white Americans and Western Europeans.
No, people only remember the good things and easily forget the boring, not so good things. Not just what you'd find on headlines at the time, but the little things like waiting for tv shows to air, shitty days at school, feeling bored, technological limitations, etc.
>>12141685Born in 84 can confirm. I had a good time.
>>12148512>wait for a new episode of your favorite tv show to air for weeks, building anticipation, clearing your entire schedule around it because it will only air once and never againvs>oh it looks like an entire new season dropped for that show we watched 2 years ago, you wanna watch it?...yeah i dunno maybe later
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>>12148498>Example: Halloween. In 1999, plenty of kids went out trick or treating together, did their thing, came home. Now, even for kids the same age as those back then, the parents are right there, walking down the middle of the street, always corralling the kids and telling them this house, not that one, how much candy they are limited to, etc. Out of maybe 150 kids, only one set was totally unchaperoned.One of my friends had a kid a few years ago and we've talked about this. When we were younger, we used to go out trick or treating alone until it was close to midnight. Just me, my older brother, and one or two friends, none of us any older than 14 years old.Nowadays that is completely unheard of. Even kids nearing the end of their high school years are accompanied by parents, and everyone does their trick or treating before it's even fully dark outside.It's the same with like spanking your kids when they do stupid shit to try and discipline them. No one does it anymore, because everyone is afraid of being labeled a child abuser or something. And then everyone wonders why zoomers do such stupid shit.
>>12148576Literally this
Yes and no, the 90's are the peak of escapism fiction, but if you look past that the 90's were the beginning of all the shit we have today. The end of the cold war also killed the west
>>12149270What do you consider the peak of western civilization then?
>>12141685>wake up>scream nigger>sleep>repeatI miss it
>>12141685I rememba that dino model
>>12149437Hard to say, for me human art peaked at romanticism, for human values XVIII & XIX centuries, for comfort, entertainment and technology, the cold war. So I'd say that between 1870 and 1914.
>>12142468I remember being terrified of being drafted. I was the smallest of my friend group.
>>12147468>beat anon's ass so hard he became a furryBased bat tats loving dad
>>12141728this
>>12149557>So I'd say that between 1870 and 1914.>didn't even have vidya1970-2012 was peak human civilization. Things only went downhill after because of mass internet adoption and social media. Would still rather live today than anytime in the past.
>>12141691>I've finally accepted that I'll never again be as happy as I was in '99Jesus Christ...
>>12149906I love videogames, but they're just electronic toys.