So what the fuck was the big deal? I remember playing this back when in released with all the hype shit and was like:"So I'm playing a shitty butchered rpg instead of a good one just so I can see retards play the game too on the background?"And never touched it again.
Lineage 2 was better
>>12145445another "OP wasn't alive to experience the game but needs to shitpost about it" thread. jannies, get on it
>still crying about WoW 20 years laterIt was great. You just wouldn't get it.>inb4 kidhad warrior epic on Rallos Zek serverwas 600+ skill total in Ultimaquit them both for Vanilla WoW.then quit WoW a few years later when TBC released, but damn those were a good few years.
I thought I was on the /v/ toddler board with a post like OP. Grow the fuck up already.
I was a level 29 twink shaman. That shit was fun.
>>12145476>you weren't thereI was there, I just played more games before wow so I just saw a shitty rpg and I never got the appeal. The combat sucks, the gameplay sucks, the quests sucks. Genuinely didn't get it, was it all just bragging rights over who is the biggest time waster?>>12145503>still crying First time ever making a thread about wow, just saw it on another thread and I'm genuinely curious what the fuck was the big deal.
>>12145541What RPG in 2004 had better combat than WoW? Certainly not Morrowind kek.In 2004 most RPGs still revolved around just standing in front of your enemy and spamming one or two buttons.WoW combat was advanced as hell for what was out at the time, and it's a huge reason it blew up the way it did.
>>12145563I wouldn't call Morrowind's combat good but it's a lot better than stand there pressing numbers looking at cool down icons
>>12145445WoW was always a dumbed down turbo casual game aimed at the lowest common denominator, thats what sells games now thats what sold games back then.
>>12145569>stand thereBut that's the thing. WoW was one of the first RPGs that promoted "kiting" as a core combat mechanic, and gave players the ability to really move freely while in combat. Prior to WoW, RPG combat was really finicky. You had to do a sort of "stutter step" movement in order to move around while fighting.It's a shame the system never took off for single player RPGs. >>12145584This board has 0 unique opinions kek. Bunch of drones.
>>12145569it sounds like wow was just too much above your intellect level. the warrior class was one of the most mechanically involved classes especially in dungeons where you were constantly using a good portion of your skills. it sounds like a mage casting frostbolt over and over is more appropriate for you.
>>12145445I always got the impression that WoW players had no life. They just grinded up big numbers and ERP'd with other fat 30yo men in chatrooms. I mean, imagine paying an annual subscription to play a game when the copy of Parasite Eve 2 you bought works now and forever.
>>12145710>weeb poorfag owning the poorfag console with sour grapeslol
>>12145445>retards play the game too on the backgroundAh, so you're one of "those" people that play a multiplayer-focused game singleplayer. No surprise you never understood the appeal. Might as well delete the thread. You've already embarrassed yourself enough
>>12145445>>12145541>buys a massively multiplayer online game>gets mad when it's not single playerwere you born retarded or just raised that way?
>>12145710based
>>12145612>WoW was one of the first RPGs that promoted "kiting"people had been kiting since bg1
i actually never tried wow because i hated rts games and didn't want to touch anything associated with warcraft. i played ragnarok online instead.
>>12145612>you can move during combatYeah and it felt like shit, mixing real time and turn based has always been retarded, dedicate the game to one please.>>12145693>playing the game with the most boring class is good actually because you need to buff and heal to do shit>>12145710Pretty much the same impression I got except for the erp thing>>12145751Why does multi-player means it must play like shit? I played lots of enjoyable online multi-player games
>>12145816again, it's very clear you weren't alive when the game came out as you can't speak in any sort of specifics but rather vague talking points you most likely got from a youtuber. sincerely kys
>>12145832>if you didn't like it you just weren't thereCope
>>12145816>mixing real time and turn based has always been retardedlmao wtf are you talking about?Nothing about it is turn based.
>>12145842>wait until you can attack again
>>12145852Bro... You literally haven't played the game lmfao.There is a ONE SECOND global cooldown, and you can use your instant abilities during that one second.You're literally spamming your buttons so fast that it sounds like a fucking machine gun coming from your keyboard. Anyone who has ever heard a WoW player playing knows the keyboard sound In talking about. Fuck outta here, LARPing faggot.
>>12145859Not many spells / skill have a one second cool down, calm your titties manlet
I bought it on release as the people I was playing the first cod with migrated to it. I kinda enjoyed it but it did feel like I need to play it all the time to get my moneys worth from it. Plus they wanted to play at stupid hours like 7pm and that was prime skateboarding and hanging with friends time so I didn't really bother committing. Always felt like I needed no life to fully enjoy it
>>12145879>doesn't know the difference between the global cooldown and a spell cooldown lol lmao.never played.or played until level 5 and quit. Also>Not many spells / skill have a one second cool downEvery core ability was a literal 0 second cooldown (fireball/shadowbolt/smite/sinister strike/wrath/etcetcetc. And with ~30 other abilities, you always had multiple abilities ready to be used at any given time. Never played.
>>12145892Cry more manlet. There is still cooldown whether you like it or not
>>12145896Yes, but nearly every RPG has cooldowns. My point is that the gameplay is not "turn based". That's like saying a game like Dark Souls is turn based just because you have to wait in between weapon swings.
>>12145883>Always felt like I needed no life to fully enjoy itIn a way you did. Specifically if you were trying to keep up with your friends, like you were. This is really the area where MMOs are the weakest. Everyone levels at different paces, but if you speed the leveling process up too much it feels less like an adventure.Once you hit the higher levels it doesn't matter as much since you can group with max levels, but you still have to put in the hours to get there, which is like ~100.
>>12145916Wow isn't an ARPG either it has that weird turn based real time combo where you don't need to aim anything and clicking an attack will make your people move to the enemy automatically, so it feels much like a turn based rpg (and relies on stats to determine whether your attack actually hits) maybe that's where the confusion is coming from
>>12145930>you don't need to aim anythingYou need to be facing your target>clicking an attack will make your people move to the enemy automaticallyYou get a red error message saying "Out of range" and your character has a voiceline. You have to manually run to your targets.Are you sure you didn't play Warcraft 3?
>>12145841there's now multiple people telling you you haven't played the game, which you haven't. how starved of attention are you? you just bored until your next wal-mart shift?
>ok everyone put your cloaks on, if you don't have a cloak, hide behind the throne, I'm starting It's the best multiplayer PvE boss experience ever made, there's nothing quite like it
>>12145896Cooldown isn't turn based, you retard. By your logic literally ever game in existence is turn based because you have to wait before you can do something.
>>12145450delulu boomer take no cap
>>12146207You're a PvE player, don't talk to me
>>12145710You had to be there man, it stills hold ups - man who cant let go of the past and acknowledge that their game is noe an anticuated piece of media, only worth revisiting but not longer keep paying for more than 20 years
>>12145612>kekBack to 2014
>>12148108Thanks for your input on the topic, Dave.
>>12145445I didn’t play WoW when it released because back then I thought a monthly subscription was retarded, but I was still definitely curious about it. I played it in 2019 for the first time when Classic released and I was absolutely blown away by it. It’s a genuinely amazing game— world PvP and being able to fuck people’s factions over by murdering NPCs was so awesome. From what I understand the current retail version of it is a hollow shell of its former self, but I can definitely appreciate now why people loved it when it was released. I have a ton of nostalgia for when I got to play it back then. Leveling my character from 1-60 while following a guide and listening to audiobooks was one of the most enjoyable vidya experiences I’ve ever had.
I finally bit the bullet and got onto a 1.12 pserver called Ashen WoW. Not bad.
>>12148124I first played it halfway into the first expansions release, then into Wrath, then into Cataclysm, and by that time it was a mostly mindless blur of dungeon queing and straightforward questing. Had a lot of fun leveling on Classic once it was first out, questing around the zones felt less mindless, I was a solo warrior so I enjoyed how careful I'd have to be. I just don't really care much for the MMO experience so I wish there was always an offline, solo-catered experience.>private solo server with instance scaling, simulated AH, bots if neededoh there we go.
>>12145445>So what the fuck was the big dea-FROSTSHOCK!!
>>12148106What
>>12145730>if you don't rent your games you are poor >owning your games outright means you are poorKEK
>>12145445People had fun because they were young and doing something with their friends, and they think it was because of the game and not in spite of it.
>>12149930I played WoW back in the day with 0 friendson the contrary, WoW gave the closest feeling to having a friend which I never had before or ever after
>>12150020>on the contrary, WoW gave the closest feeling to having a friend which I never had before or ever afterIt's funny how you are proving him right when you think you are proving him wrong.
>>12150026try reading again but slowly, maybe that helps
>>12150065I did. It's that you don't understand what you wrote.
>>12150206>even if you were old and lonely, wow wasn't fun because it was a good game. The answer is always: it was fun because of some other reason that doesn't have anything to do with WoWI think I'm onto you.
>>12145445There was no codified method in which an MMO was made at the time, for the most part the formula for every game had been made by the early 2000's. Warcraft set a bar for expectation, it made MMO's more accessible (casual) but also improved what were the better aspects of MMO's and tweaked the slog of them all. Read The WoW Diary, it tells a lot about WoW and why it was such a success. WoW was heavily tested in public before release, and so by the time the game released it had a full enough for an mmo playerbase.
>>12145730I've never heard PS1 horror games get called weeb before
>>12149921you were complaining about the subscription, that makes you poor. not only are you poor, you're retarded with compromised memory. are you vaxxed by any chance?
>>12150934>you were complaining about the subscriptionShould Parasite Eve 2 have had a subscription?
>>12150934Retards like you and the retards that bought the horse armor ruined gaming
>>12150934>that makes you poorNo, that makes him financially savvy. It is literally retarded to pay $180 to play one game for a year.
>>12150980>retarded to pay for the thing that has become the most exciting aspect of your day-to-day life Next you’ll tell me that paying for food is retarded when you can just steal sandwiches from the grocery store
>>12150980>It is literally retarded to pay $180 to play one game for a year.As well as paid expansions. Draw out gametime with weekly resets and other grind and you've got a recipe for money-blinding success.
>>12150980>financially savvyeuphemism poors use to cope>>12150961should apples be oranges? they're completely different games. what a stupid remark to make.
>>12151007Only the powerless would play an MMO, where time must be sunk to maintain the social aspect. Anyone of stature and taste would value their time too much.
>>12150934Subscriptions are literally made to exploit poorfags you retard. Poorfags do not have a lot of short-term disposable income, so instead of selling a game to them for $60 upfront, they sell it to them for $15 a month...12 months a year. Rent costs more in the long-term, yet rent remains profitable because poorfags don't have a choice. You see the same shit in housing too.
WoW tards are the reason we live in subscription hell right now
>>12145584Uhh it was just an improvement over the Everquest model just without "you died so you lost 5 hours of exp grinding unless you can get a max level cleric to give you an exp res in the middle of nowhere"
>>12151000What a waste of trips. The proper comparison would be it's retarded to order takeout and pay exponentially more for food you could cook at home.
>>12151114Poorfags usually don't have the credit to get desirable financing, not because they don't have the money. Mortgages can sometimes be cheaper than rent. Maintenance is where poorfags lose out over time, too.
>>12151209How on earth is that a better comparison? The implication here that you can “cook the same food yourself” is bullshit. What you pay for is the service, convenience, and time saved. Whether you think that’s worth it or not has little to do with whether or not it is “retarded”.
>>12151238That even makes less sense because a mmo has way less convenience and polish than a normal game
you're poor is the lowest form of copewe get it retard, youre just sore you missed out on the greatest mmo ever made
>>12151304>implying I played and it sucked compared to actual games with good gameplay
>actual game>good gameplaygeneric npc phrases getting tossed out left and right. hating things doesn't make you interesting, boy.
>>12151290I’m having a hard time imagining what logic it is that you’re using for this argument. It stands to reason that a game that receives frequent updates based on community feedback will likely have more polish. >normal game Such as?
>>12151336Every game that doesn't requires a subscription and obligatory internet connection
>>12151114i've never been poor and i paid for a wow subscription. checkmate gaytheists
you had to be thereif you were there and still don't get it, you're soulless and I don't even consider you human
>>12151370What's the deal with that onions as fuck image?
>>12151373it's pretty self explanatory
Swamp of Sorrows...home...
>>12151238>Whether you think that’s worth it or not has little to do with whether or not it is “retarded”.That has everything to do with whether or not someone or something is retarded, retard. WoW isn't special. It's just a game amongst a sea of games and a game is just another thing to do amongst a sea of activities and on and on. If you truly believe shelling out $180 a year for a game is peak vidya and financially sound, then you are in fact retarded. That year turns into another and soon enough you're $1,800+ deep into a dead end investment. Subscribing to WoW isn't going to get you anything but a huge, parasitic time sink. You could enjoy just about anything else just as much as WoW. It's just how our brains and bodies work and that's why paying for a video game sub is retarded.
>>12151347You are using that internet connection for a multitude of other things. Plenty of other games to play that are free or only a few bucks up front, yet are still well maintained.
Honestly I respect gacha players and fortnite kids more, at least they don't pay per month JUST to play the game
>>12145925Yeah I did enjoy it to a degree but the cheapo in me felt like I should be playing all the time to get the most out of it. It might have helped if I logged on at the same time as my online friends but as I said before, I was more interested in skating and hanging with my real life friends at the time. I do get how well loved the game is, I remember hearing about a Korean couple who left their 4 month at home to go play it at an Internet cafe, got hooked and came home later to find the kid had suffocated. Probably not the only kid who died because of their idiot parents and that game
>>12145450I had WoW friends who quit and played L2.
