The revisionists and contractions can go eat shit
the fellating of these moviegames would never have happened if they were made by a different company
>>12145756>The revisionists and contractions can go eat shitI agree, it's ridiculous.Probably Nintendo incels.
>>12145756>air boat sectionhome
something like, say, a Half-Life 3, could helps people recontextualise HL2 into a positive light again.
>>12145756>baby's first pc gameAt least make the bait believable and say Half-Life 1
>>12145756It's vastly inferior to Half life 1The pacing is atrocious with very annoying segment
>>12145756good game but not great
>>12145756Same for RE2
>>12145756>contractionsContrarians.
I can't play it anymore because the bullet sponge enemies who don't react to being hit on the face trigger me.
>>12145756the only memorable and enjoyable part of this game for me was the "road" level and when you went under the bridge and these strange alien sounds started playing. and i adored HL 1
>>12145756I found it disappointing.>This game doesn't have cutscenes. It just locks you in a room while characters talk at you. Not at all the same thing :^)And I could do without the lonely male wish fulfillment character. I'm alone by choice when I'm single-player gaming instead of going out for hangs.
>if you jump over the falls to Black Mesa east without the airboat, the game will freezeStill butthurt the game will let you advance without the boat all the way to that point, then fail on you right as you reach the part where you can't use it anymore. Why let me transition to another level without the boat in the first place?
Daily reminder only Gaylo fags hate this game.Console fags eternally assblasted.
>>12145756I guess honest discussion of this game is impossible here because of some weird meta autist hijacking threads like Mother 3, but I'll be genuine and say I never much cared for HL2 compared to the first game.>majority of the old enemies gone; a few equivalents were introduced, but not for everything that was lost, and in any case 80% of the time you're fighting humans who go down with like 10 bullets, not the cool aliens>vehicle segments drag on and on and on>forced to stand around and listen to characters talk for minutes on end multiple times>less of the fun novelty weapons to fuck around with>art design of returning enemies/weapons/etc was weaker imoThe whole fucking plot and tone has always felt weird and incongruent with HL1. Like, you're just shoved into this completely new environment without any kind of context, without ever having seen or heard about any of these new characters Gordon was supposedly good chums with. To me it feels like the writer was trying to get an original dystopian sci-fi novel out, but he wasn't having much luck with it, so when it came time for the next game he just shoved all those ideas into the script.
>>12145756Literally everyone but the zoomers on this site agree with this.
>>12146021>majority of the old enemies gonethe majority of those xenos got pathetically slaughtered and weren't viable. can't throw that much of a fuss over them focusing on headcrabs,>vehicle segments drag on and on and onthey're a continuation of on a rail and fit the game's physics focus and story pacing. they also only last like 20 minutes.>forced to stand around and listen to characters talk for minutes on end multiple timesthey generally follow long segments of unbroken isolated gameplay and act as a short breather to reset pacing.>less of the fun novelty weapons to fuck around withit was a reasonable decision to focus on the gravity gun.>art design of returning enemies/weapons/etc was weaker imonitpick
>>12145756>slow as fuck realism man slowly walks through realistic eastern euro shitholes while shooting lame sounding realistic guns in a realistic alien invasion where the aliens use mostly modern military equipment in a realistic way and you spend literally half the game in what technically isn't a cutscene but may as well be because you can't progress the game till NPCS stop talking or you prove you have an elementary school understanding of physicsbut somehow its halo, the game where even if you're floaty as fuck and can only hold two guns at a time is at least looking into the backyard of quake or doom, that ruined fps games forever. I'll never get what gen x PC gamers were on
>>12145756I didn't realize how good HL2 was until I played the VR mod. It is easily the best game on VR even beating Alyx. Only downside is the vehicle sections are 10x worse in VR.
>>12145756Coming from someone that didn't play these games until decades after they had released and despite playing Half Life 2 first I still think it is inferior to Half Life. That's not to say Half Life 2 is bad, far from it, it's just that Half Life was that fucking amazing. Half Life 2 is still incredible with fun gunplay and a physics engine that actively makes encounters more fun. The gravity gun is one of the best weapons to ever grace a video game. I just think the sand box, enemy variery, and AI doesn't take advantage of the tools provided by the engine the way Half Life does and I honestly prefer Half Life's set pieces as well. Everyone shitting on 2 are just contrarions trying to be original without having any means of articulating their opinion apart from >hur dur It's a tech demo
>>12146004I consider a softlock to be a win state and I try to do it with every g*me
>>12146008I like Halo and Half-Life 1, but Half-Life 2 falls a bit flat for me
>>12146008OP here. I adore Halo and adore Half Life 2. Both are masterpieces.
Whats your favorite Mod anons? Played day hard today and had an absolute blast.
>>12145756hl2 was gay, source was gayhl1 and goldsrc engine was better
>>12145756Just a boring physics tech demo. halo 2 came out the same year and mogs it hard.
>>12145756Gravity Gun was useless until the final level where it actually had gun functions
>>12145756Big meh from me. Half Life 2 fell off hard when Gmod and Orange Box memed on it with nothing to show for it.
>gaylo and console fags proving OP rightKek
>>12146274Smod has to be the greatest mod in history
>>12145756The game still sucks. Only faggots enjoy it.
>>12145756it was good but I still keep going back to HL1 instead. The gravity gun novelty wears off now that your average game has proper physics. CS 1.3-1.5 is still better than the CS games that came after too. The GoldSrc engine has smoother movement than Source.
>>12146472It was supposed to be used as a tool, not a gun. And it was extremely useful, especially in Ravenholm. Your brain was too full of dumb to make good use of it.
>>12145756The game still rocks. Only faggots don't enjoy it.
>>12145756Agreed.
>>12147249I used it as my main weapon in Ravenholm for fun. The zombies aren't very dangerous so might as well screw around a bit.
>>12145981You are not talking about HL2. You're thinking of HL1. They overcompensated for that in HL2, but it was fun
Half-Life 2 is pretty good, and I still like it, but replaying it last Christmas, I was struck by how some parts are a bit bland, and then when you get to Episode 1 and Episode 2, how they are a LOT better in gameplay and level design than the base game.My own ranking:>Half-Life>Half-Life 2 Episode 2>Half-Life 2 Episode 1>Opposing Force>Half-Life 2>Blue ShiftNot disliking the expansions either, and I think Opposing Force is actually really good, but it gets some points off for aping Half-Life's setpieces too much. Blue Shift is also good, but just not as good as the others.
This whole thread is one same fag samefagging like a fag.
>>12146021I see a lot of your points. The lack of weapon and enemy variety compared to the first game I think is Half-Life 2's main weakness.>>12146136Did you play the episodes though? I think they use Half-Life 2's "toolbox" far better, I noticed I had a LOT more fun with them.
>>12147274Gordon doesn't need to hear all this, he's a highly trained professional.
>>12145756>fps>moviegame>wokeimagine being such a pleb pc vegan you enjoyed this.
everything in the orange box was reddit-core mega overrated slop. thats the moment I knew pc cucks have the lowest of standards.
>>12147158Came here for this. HL2 with SMOD = some of the best times in vidya you can have.
>>12147334>>12147323Imagine being a console cuck in 2025.
>>12147349this is the retro board, current year means nothing. I do not give a shit about 2025 consoles, nor do I care about steam slop. its all trash. the difference is that consoles used to be good before gen 7, and pc trash has always been trash.
>>12147362Ok gaylofag
>>12146472>Gravity Gun was useless until the final level where it actually had gun functionsTell that to all the Combine soldiers I killed by hurling steel cabinets into them at 80 miles per hour, loser
It sucks and it has always sucked. After playing through Black Mesa and being unable to put it down for a second except to sleep, I tested out the HL2 rerelease, specifically Lost Coast to see if my opinion was still the same, and what a genuinely boring piece of garbage. The combine are ass and the weapons are even more ass.
>>12145756I played this game and Far Cry back then, with a GeForce 6800 and a Pentium Dual Core.The first hour of both games is reasonable, after that it's pure empty levels and repetition. I ended up giving up on both games and never played them again until recently. I forced myself to finish HL2 just to see what this game was all about. A 6/10.The fact that they managed to sell technical demos at full price back then is an impressive feat, ngl.
>>12147362trvke, pc lards didn't have a single good fps until master chief collection released in 2019
>>12145756Didn't really like it. Story, the setting was just not for me, unlike Half Life 1.
>>12145756Yes it was. Most acclaimed game ever.Anyone who says otherwise is a dumbass denying reality.
>>12147776weak b8
>>12147787Bioshock Infinite was one of the most acclaimed games too when it came out.
>>12147792Half-Life 2 won more awards overall and had a broader impact on the industry, while BioShock Infinite earned praise for its storytelling and artistic achievements.What is the point in coming to 4chan at all when all it is is fucking retards?
>>12147787Aside from the physics (thanks to Havok) and the gravity gun, there's nothing above average or original in HL2.Crysis (2007) does everything Half-Life 2 does, but multiplied by 100. Therefore, Crysis should have been recognized as the game of the century, dont you think?>legacy>evolution of video game storytelling and design>set new standards for realism and interactivity in gamesthis AI is on drugs or something?
>>12147825It's correct. I lived through it and crysis just wasnt as fun.
>>12147825Crysis was forgotten within a year, every even halfway valid criticism of HL2 in this thread applies far more to that thing.
>>12147834Crysis wasn't forgotten in a year.A benchmark tool for several years, with visuals and graphics technology still impressive to this day, an internet meme: "Can it run Crysis?", everyone wanted to build a PC to experience Crysis in all its glory.I fully understand your fanatical devotion to Half-Life 2.. But, in fact, it's a very shallow and generic FPS.
>>12145981You're supposed to use the memegun, there's even a separate button for it.
>>12147872As a game? Forgotten in a year. It was literally a tech demo, which is why people used it as a benchmark
>>12147880You clearly haven't played Crysis.I've played both games. Crysis is far from being a tech demo, unlike Half-Life 2.Crysis received an expansion, was ported to PS3 and Xbox 360 in 2011, received two sequels, and was recently remastered.
>schizo samefag praising CrysisGetting desperate
This is what happens when you let Halo fags in the board.Console kiddies have no taste and have to seethe this hard to change history.Old 4chan would laugh at you.
>>12147273HL2 is way too slow to introduce new mechanics and enemies. The devs assume you're retarded and have to ease you into a mechanic over 30 minutes, then change it slightly over the next 30 minutes. By the time the expansions come out they assume you're already familiar with them.Pic rel gets meme'd a lot, but there's another dev commentary saying that one play tester drowned in a puddle. They're the reason the game is so slow.
>>12147994To be fair, staring at a screen for hours on end does make one a retard. They don't call them "boobtubes" for nothing. Valve made the right call.
>>12147994Okay but compare what those retards at Valve said and what Itagaki said. Also you could see the slow roll as Valve pacing the "story", but there is fuckall for a story going on.
Is this another osyop thread of>Old games bad :( you remember wrong>Please we beg you, play new slop!because no.
>>12146274That mods a broken piece of shit i had to restart multiple times because of softlocks.>>12145756>only 4 weapons>only 2 of them are viable>75% less enemies now>AT LEAST WE ADDED ANTLION GUARDS AND ANTLIONS (boring bug enemies!!!!!!!!)>too many boring segments where you just stand there.What's the point? Half life 1 has infinitely more replayability than 2.
>>12147981a thousand internets to this gentlesir
>>12148270Stop samefagging schizoid.No one is going to agree with you, no matter how many times you repeat yourself
It's funny how he can't help himself and prove OP right.
>>12148060No, just a schizo having a melty over the superiority of hl2
>>12148272Sorry oldfags don't like your baby console game.
>>12147284I played episodes 1 and 2.1 is just bad. I hated the entire worthless thing. 2 is Good though. I don't think it's much better than the base game but the new enemies and mechanics do help it.
>>12147349You're in a thread about a game released on consoles. If your shitty platform had exclusives worth duscussing, you'd be in a thread about them.
>>12148623>a game released on consolesand that version sucks BALLS
>>12148624It's still a disappointing moviegame no matter the platform it's played on. Still not exclusive.
>>12148631You are a still butthurt console fag.Keep seething.
>>12148673>no argument against it being disappointing or a moviegameThat means you agree with me, so I win.
>>12145756>start game>shoot pistol>*plip plip*>quit
>>12148728They weren't arguments in the first place.You sure proved OP point.
>halo fags still mindbroken all these yearsLmao
Both Halo and HL2 were shit compared to what came before.
>>12148772No, just Halo
You never visited old forums or old 4chan.Pretty obvious you are a newfag with no taste.
>>12148751They were and you conceded to them. Sucks for you.
>>12145756I love Half Life 1 but Half Life 2 didn't do it for me, sorry.
>>12148904You're forgiven. To each there own.
>>12146021half life 1 has a charm to it that is definitely lost in half life 2.Half life 1 feels like something passionate sci fi / action movie nerds came up with. The stereotype scientists and military guys, the goofy aliens, the zombies and over the top gibs. It all feels like a fun B movie.The levels being geometrically simple and visually clear helped make all the puzzles and exploration and platforming really engaging. The game had incredible pacing, never a dull moment.Half Life 2 pivots into a whole new realm with gritty realism, commentary on fascim and government control... it shows us a bleak and sad reality and is filled with detail and clutter. It's still leagues better than modern games, but busier than the simple elegance of hl1.Half Life 2 definitely felt like the big leap into serious movie game trappings and it shed the fun, gamelike sensibilities of half life 1... and felt like it entirely lost its roots in boomer shooters lilke doom / duke nukem.I've loved both games, but I do feel that half life 1 is more memorable and enjoyable to replay today.
>>12148892Nice cope
>>12148914That's one way to put it I guess, but listen: going from Half Life's alien invasion to Half Life 2's 1984 with aliens and guns is still one of the most mind-boggling switcheroos ever. I still don't see the logic (and I've seen the documentaries). "Our art guy likes communist shit" is not an explanation.
>>12148916PCope.
>>12148927It's "what happens after the aliens have invaded and won?" Which means you have to come up with why they invaded, what they were after. Which HL2 (and the subsequent episodes) tries to answer
>>12148932Console cuck melty
>>12148935>what happens after the aliens have invaded and won?That's a strange question to ask after beating Half Life.
>>12145981>bullet sponge enemiescombine soldiers are anything but bullet sponges.if anything they have too little HP
>>12148914>>Half Life 2 pivots into a whole new realm with gritty realism, commentary on fascim and government control.the funny thing about HL2's tone is that it sort of rubberbands back into something more HL1-esque in the Episodes.
Remember to create more HL threads, Valve threads be CS, Portal or TF2 to spite the schizo.Don't let the faggot win the narrative against HL.
The /v/ threads are less schizophrenic than this shit.
>>12149039Imagine how great HL2 would have been if the aliens had invaded Chicago or New York instead of some nameless communist Eastern European place that feels foreign enough without all the alien shit.HL1 felt very American. The New Mexico desert. The bureacratic lab protocols / scientist personalities. The trigger happy military response. The gung ho military voice lines. The colorful vending machines. HL2 feels like soviet shit and I hate that vibe comparably.
>>12149113>more american wankingNo
>>12149121american game
Post the ip count cowards
>>12146203Sorry anon
Just kill yourself already faggot
>>12145756truthpill
>>12145787People shilled it hard before steam was huge too
Samefagging and bumping will not change consensus or fool people my friend.
>>12149218The Half Life games got pushed a lot by magazines (the hype machine at the time). I remember and I'm not surprised.
If you don't like this game you are brown.
I remember when the same faggot spammed anti hl1 threads before the rule change.
>>12145756look at the soiboy on the cover art lmfao. shart life fags defend this? no wonder halo mogged it
>>12149372Mogged what? At being worse and the laughing stock of the fps community?Also nice to see you dropped the mask faggot.
Why are halo fags so eternally assblasted over Chad Life?
>>12149391Because in the end... there can be only one.
>>12149391>>12149394Nah, they're both good games.
Gravity gun is shitRavenholm is shitWhere are the boss fights?Why are the weapons so boring? (compared to HL1)Vehicle segments are the best partThe real best part is skyboxes and the daylight progression, very atmospheric, no idea how people can call it a tech demoThanks for reading my blog
>>12148282>everyone that disagrees with me is a samefag.Grim.
>>12149426Nɔpe Halo is reddit
>>12149113>HL2 feels like soviet shit and I hate that vibe comparably.You're not exactly supposed to like it.
>>12147259That doesn't make sense, since HL1 enemies get hitstunned by weapons.
>>12148631>moviegameFinally, a contrarian opinion I haven't heard before.>>12149537Bullet sponges take a lot of damage to bring down. Hit stunning doesn't change how many bullets they take to bring down. Are you guys just pretending not to understand things on purpose?
>>12148778I said both.Nigger.
>>12149494I think what he means is that it feels cheap and low rent.
>>12149439>no idea how people can call it a tech demolet's see:>repetitive levels>repetitive enemies>low enemy variety>artificial and disjointed level design>limited and generic gun set >lifeless and empty levels>generic cutscenes>silent protagonist>no sense of progression>no apparent progression>and the classic one: the main menu screen is simply a specific area of the game running in the background.The game is nothing more than a giant playground where the player is supposed to play with the gravity gun and experiment with the game physics.Everything else is a pathetic excuse and makeup for a fully priced game.
>>12148914This is the best criticism of HL2 I ever read, great points.
>>12147834Crysis is an excellent FPS at least until you start fighting the ayys. HL2 is a chore with a godawful gunplay all the way through.
>>12145981use the quick switch key. you're meant to be switching between 2 weapons really fast in bot HL1 and 2.
>>12147872>generic FPS.you can call it shallow but it's not generic, certainly not very.
>>12145756it was always known as a pozzed moviegame tech demo, zoomzoom. thankfully halo 2 came out the same year and saved us from yet another mediocre valveslop
>>12150048bait used to be believable
>>12147247>average game has proper physics.do they? no other game comes close to the source engine in terms of genuinely satisfying physics
>>12145756>contractions can go eat shit
>>12150168kek
>>12145981If zoomers put Unreal multiplayer, HL2:DM and Crysis multiplayer into the picture we'd have less retarded seething about the TTK not being that of a late CoD campaign
>>12149805aids laden faggot hands typed this post
>>12147247Only 1.3, I'm afraid. Slow-walking and getting crippled on landing feel awful
>>121503061.3 has faster walking speed and actually functional jumping?
>>12150312Yeah
>>12145756>waskeywordThe cracks and flaws get harder to look past with every year and playthrough.>have to wait through multiple long act-ting! segments where you have nothing to do but play with the physics objects and admire the at-the-time impressive facial animation and shaders (like the tubes with the colored fluid and glass refraction)>game is cut up into absolutely bitesize chunks to barely work on 2004 computers, also contributes to FF15 hallway tier level design>hitched like a MOTHERFUCK at the timeIt WAS amazing. It's just a collection of parlor tricks, though.
The more I think about it, the more it would unironically benefit from a remake, or at least a retooling with ways to hurry up the scenes and levels that aren't ram-starved hallways.
>all that promo material with Freeman's face>no official model of him to speak of in HL2 or any of its expansionsStill extremely bizarre to me. This also may be no-mirrors-in-modern-games: origins. Fuck this game for that. All the oldfag early 2000s games had this. Unreal. Deus Ex. Doom 3 with its heavy ass lighting. What was this game's excuse?
>the samefaggot still at itWtf the janny is doing
>>12150850>NOOOO you can't just EXPOUND it's not FAIR mommy
Yep mindbroken faggot.
I HECKIN LOVE GAYLO
>>12150781He reminds me of Leonard from Big Bang Theory. Why doesn't his suit have a helmet to cover his onions face? Giving him a Master Chief treatment would improve the character a lot, but I guess they couldn't backtrack from HL1. He looks like a complete dork.
>>12150862>>12150859>it MUST be about an imaginary brand-war in my headDidn't have an Xbox. Bought HL2 at the time. Not a Halo fan. I said I liked it, and found it impressive at the time, it's just that it's dog and pony show gets more tiresome and apparent with time.
Most pathetic samefagging in days/vr/ is dead.
i'm an anon from israel and this is my thread
>all this butthurtOP was right
Half-Life 2 is a great game in VR
Valve Derangement Syndrome
>>12145756This is where gaming peaked.
The ip count?
hl1 > goldeneye > hl2and if you played hl2 like a regular fps and didn't use the gravity gun for 95% of the time, you are super retarded and deserve anal punishment
What do Half-Life 2 and Sega System have in common?
The intro is iconic and the boat/car sections pretty fun. Memeholm has a nice spooky vibe. Other than that it's pretty meh.
Very organic replies.
>>12150865>He looks like a complete dork.That's exactly what makes him so cool. The contrast between being a nerdy scientist dude and a badass stoic action hero is kino. I can't think of another piece of media that did the same.
WHY IS EVERYONE PRAISING ME I HAVEN'T EVEN DONE ANYTHING WTF CHILL PLS