Any Breath of Fire fans out there?I ignored this franchise as a kid, but just played through the first 4 games over the past yearIt was interesting to see how the games evolved from 1994 to 2000; a snapshot of what RPGs were like at that point in gaming historyIt was always great to see Deis appear in some form or anotherI enjoyed BOF4 the most, by farI know that BOF5 was made by a completely different team, but played the first few minutes of BOF5 and actually thought it seemed interesting, so I might continue playing itAny thoughts to share on the franchise? Memes? Waifu debates?
Played the first one via virtual console for switchit was good til around the midgame where there were multiple incredibly cryptic game progressing events that mandated a walkthrough, idk how people did this in the pre-internet era
>>12156562Greetings fellow BoF enjoyer. I have been playing through the series over the past few years. I am currently on the 3rd entry. In my playthrough, Ryu is still a child along with Nina. I have already played beyond this point when I was a kid however its been 25+ years since then.That being said I look forwards to playing through the 4th entry even if I strongly dislike the way it begins and how Ryu looks very simple in that game.
>>12156686How the fuck do you need a walkthrough for anything in these games? They spell out where to go pretty clearly.
>>12156715The part where you're a kid was my least favorite part of that game...I almost quit multiple times. I felt like the game only got good after meeting Garr.Ryu's design in BOF4 is very basic, but I think it kinda works, symbolically, since he's sort of a "blank slate" in that game, so a plain and simple appearance suits him.
>>12156725>>12156562>>12156686>>12156718>>12156715Fun Fact: The Breath of Fire series is loosely based on the Messiah and his bloodline (Every game showing you someone else from his bloodline, descendants).>in b4 which messiahThe one predicted that comes in the end times...meaning NOW.
>>12156562Most overrated series ever. BoF1 is putrid shit. I thought I would like BoF3 more but while it's better than 1, it's still incredibly mid. Rare Capcom L
>>12156562They have the Capcom pedigree and good production values but they all feel a good step below Square's output. All the games have really good character designs though.I played BoF2 first. I thought they evil Catholic Church story was sort of hackneyed even as a kid and the translation is borderline incomprehensible. Plus the game does really annoying shit like undoing your fusions constantly, having an insane encounter rate or the standard AP healing item decreasing your health. I have an extremely kino memory of going to the video store with my family on the eve of a snowstorm. I wasn't permitted to rent a game but we ran into someone we knew who told us they already canceled school so I got permission to rent a game and I chose BoF I. I stayed up late playing it while the snow piled up and played it all the next day only taking breaks to shovel the drive. It's a much more forgiving game than it's sequel though not as good.My wife got me BoF III for a Christmas gift when I gave her a big list of random retro shit I thought I'd like to play. I love the graphics and soundtrack but I lost interest around the time you have to play that tug of war minigame.
>>12156562>Any Breath of Fire fans out there?I love Breath of Fire.After all these years, I still can't decide on a favorite. I and II's story, characters, music and setting are all unforgettable for me and I think III perfected the dragon system.Breath of Fire has a place in my heart forever.>waifuNina II, without thinking twice.You guys have no idea but it was impossible to have a decent BoF thread here a few years ago.
>>12156562Momo is my wife.
>>12156562I grew up with the series, or at least the first three games. When I was young, I played through all of BoF1 and thought it the weakest game in the series, but decades later I feel like its strength is its simplicity. It's a very basic game with a linear plot that pushes you from A to B that makes it easy to play through. Combat isn't very difficult so you can easily power through the game even if you skip most random encounters (Which you can with an item that stops them from occurring).BoF2 initially wowed me far more than BoF1, it has prettier artwork, a sharper UI, and better characterization. But it just doesn't feel as fun to play, what with the random encounters being higher and your party's power level feeling much weaker. There's some things like the shaman fusions being pretty lame too considering they break on death or major story events. The story feels pretty lackluster nowadays, like it's been done many times and has lost its impact--it's not as timeless as BoF1's journey.BoF3 has a few shortcomings and the early game dragging on doesn't help it, but it really picks up as you go and plays pretty well. The game world is well put together and interesting too, with the villain being partially sympathetic in a way the first two games weren't. Character balance in combat is kind of poor though and the need to study certain enemies to learn new abilities, many of which aren't even useful, is a black mark on it though.
>>12156880I feel like 1's characters were extremely bare-bones, almost existing as archetypes rather than as fleshed out characters with personalities, backstories, etc. I was really glad that 2 had more interesting characters. Even the monkey who initially seemed like a comic character actually had a meaningful backstory.>You guys have no idea but it was impossible to have a decent BoF thread here a few years ago.Why? People had super strong opinions about what sucked and what didn't?>>12157339If you've never played 4, I recommend it, even after all these years. Combat and story is great, and they did a masterful job of crafting one of the most sympathetic villains I can think of.
2 is the only one I haven't played yet, but I feel BoF is a series that kept getting better before it died.1 was a simple SNES-era RPG. Fun enough, though it got pretty tedious later on.3 felt really great. A fun small world that I really enjoyed. As a kid I got really into the fishing and played more of it than the actual game.4 I didn't care dor that much on release, but replaying through it last year I ended liking it more than 3. The fishing ended up being even better than the arcade one in 3. One of the prettiest games on PS1.5 I went in not expecting much earlier this year, but I got completely hooked into it. It was hard as balls and I went in blind and ended up beating it without resetting the game. It ended up being my favorite in the series, but then again it almost feels more like a SaGa game.Really enjoyed the series, I still need to hunt down BoF2.
>>12156732>"didja no chrono jogger is based on le bibble" & other gay trivia
>>12157396I've started it earlier this year, I think I'm at the grasslands searching for the cat lady. It's pretty good so far, a lot of it feels like a logical evolution of 3 and just better done in general. The story also moves along at a good pace unlike 3's initial plodding nature.
>>12156718They had some real obscure stuff like the fusions in BoF1 that require you to speak to the right NPCs with the nigger as party leader. Thankfully they aren't required to beat the game.This was a big fuck you to us back then who didn't have access to the walkthroughs.
gave up on bof4 after getting like 20 hours in and absolutely nothing happens in the story and every single battle is piss easy including the boss fights.
>>12157487>every single battle is piss easy including the boss fightsIf that's what you think, you never got to the dog bossesFuckers almost made me ragequit
>>12157396>I feel like 1's characters were extremely bare-bones, almost existing as archetypes rather than as fleshed out charactersI do not disagree.I still like them very much, I can't explain why. Probably because I've played the game so much that they feel too familiar for me and my mind fills in the gaps where they lack actual personalities.The only parts of the game I don't really like are that underwater segment in Prima before Gobi can turn into a giant fish and the rotating maze in the Dream World where Mote awaits you at the end.
>>12157551>my mind fills in the gaps where they lack actual personalities.Sometimes I do something like that, too...I'll imagine what kind of dialogue the characters might have with each other during battle, or when buying things in the shop, or walking to their next destinationI started doing this at age 10I still do it now at age 37
Well if anyone is interested. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/goodoldpixel/tears-of-magic-relaunchIf you want some indie shit like BoF there is this. Though project has been around for a while.
>>12156562>nudity and implied rapeCapcom was pretty based back then.
BoF3 is my #2 JRPG ever. I've tried to get into the others, but I failed miserably. Even after modding BoF2 to have less grinding and be easier, I still dropped it instantly
>>12156562>It was always great to see Deis appear in some form or anothersorta like now Ryu, Nina, and Bow always appear in some form or another???
>>12156732>ummmmm, didja kno like, ummm,, this game where you play a divine being,,,, and um,,,, fight the devil,,,, is based on religion!!!!!you get a reddit meme for a post this dumb.
>>12159274It's always a different Ryu, a different Nina, etc. In BO2, the current Nina literally gets to meet the old Nina.But with Deis, it's literally the same character, living across the centuries.
>>12159274>and Bow?
For people who finished Breath of Fire IV.What did you choose — to accept or refuse?
>>12156745>BoF1 is putrid shit.It's actually great. The encounter rate is just way, way too high.
>>12157483>This was a big fuck you to us back thenNo it wasn't, it was an awesome secret to go back and try.
The thing which stuck out in my mind most about BoF1 was the racemixing propaganda.
>>12159671>encounter rate too high>battles too slow>game is too easy (thank fuck for the auto button at least)>shitty inventory management>missing qol features present in fucking famicom rpg's>mid ost>mid graphics for the time (only slightly forgiveable because it's an early generation snes game)>besides dragon transformation, does absolutely nothing to distinguish itself from other tbrpg'sHonest to god not shitposting, please tell me what you find redeeming about this game at all. I beat the game and I would never in good conscious recommend it to anyone who values their time.
>>12159681>please tell me what you find redeeming about this game at allField abilities, unique to each character. The first time I saw that, I wanted every RPG to have that from then on. It didn't happen, which is gay.
>>12159694The hunting was sort of fun, I'll give you that.
>>12159634Save-stated and saw both endingsIf save states weren't a thing I would have refused anyway, purely on principle of "You're the final boss and I gotta fight you"
>>12159694I agree that field abilities are fuckin' cool and more RPGs should do that
>>12159671>The encounter rate is just way, way too high.you can buy items that turn off encounters for a while if you want
>>12158391>implied rapeAnd it happens twice that I can remember
>>12159681BoF 1 is especially weird considering it came out a few scant months before Final Fantasy VI. FF VI feels like it raised the bar for RPGs in terms of gameplay, graphics and narrative. Breath, while not a bad game, feels very 8-bit in comparison.
>>12156562>Any thoughts to share on the franchise? Memes? Waifu debates?It was a good franchise where they really tried something new every time. But it obviously was on a short budget and while two first installations had superb soundtrack, later titles were mediocre. Dragon Quarter was so advanced that I can't even call it JRPG to be honest. And it killed the series sadly.
BoF 1 is greatOnly homos don't like it
>>12160187I didn't *dislike* it, but I feel like all the other games in the series kicked its ass really hard
>>12156562Imo... only the second game was "remarkable", being one of the best-looking SNES rpgs at the time, coming in an oversized box with strategy guide, and because this character literally had no pants on. The third and fourth one were completely blown out of the water by FF7.
>>12160950The only reason I wanted to play BOF2 in the first place was because I saw Katt and thought "What????? A girl with no pants on????? You can show that in a game?????" and played it to see more of herI don't think I made it very far into the game, but I did eventually return to it once it came out on Switch's free SNES game thing
>>12159790The leveling rate depends on the high encounter rate. There is a mod that fixes this and I always recommend it.https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/7294/
>>12160950>The third and fourth one were completely blown out of the water by FF7.Totally different goals.>this character literally had no pants onHow lewd.
>>12161595Um excuse me, this is a worksafe board
Question about Dragon Quarter.Is it basically a roguelike where I am *expected* to fail and start from the beginning multiple times, or is it entirely feasible to just beat the entire thing in one run, as long as I play as optimally as possible?Obviously, the existence of a "you died, but now you get to carry over your levels and equipment into your next run" mechanic makes it seem like the developers *intended* for the game to work that way, but can I just brute force my way through the game without ever using the SOL system?
>>12156562he he snake boobies
>>12162352It's actually pretty easy to beat in one fresh run, IF you know which bosses require you to use some dragon meter. Also, the difficulty of DQ is completely broken by items do not use up AP, to the extent that you need to limit yourself from abusing it once you realize that.
A BoF thread, nice.I've been thinking of replaying 3 and finally giving 4 a chance. I remember having a great time with 3's mechanics.2's Nina is best Nina but 3's Nina's thighs are thick as fuck.
>>12160950>oversized box>guide in boxFucking EU bullshit!I would have MURDERED for Super Metroid big box
>>12160950No one can have a no pants cat lady in a game anymore. Also, dat crit hit animation!
>>12160047That period between FF4 and FF6 is funny. 4 and 5 have a look to them that BoF1 can be on par with. Then 6 hits and it looks amazing, sounds amazing, characters have animations to show shock or sadness, all with 16 bit graphics.And BoF2 is more of the same for it. Not until bof3 do we get everything better but 32 bits and CD.....
>>12159790The game also has accesories that permanently decrease (or increase) the number of random battles.
>>12156562I beat BoF2 on GBA years ago, but I remember the translation being janky as fuck.
>>12160047BoF 1 released a day short of an entire year before FF6, retard. NA localizations are irrelevant.
3 is my favoriteBy the way anyone have a full gallery save for the PSP version? I don't want to fish
>>12163118Yes, Capcom didn't bother to retranslate the game and used the exact same shitty SNES translation.It's like all that engrish Capcom's arcade games had but extended to a full length RPG.
>>12163017I just beat 4 a few days ago and I can definitely recommend itI personally rank it high above the other BOF games
>>12164421That good eh? It doesn't take me a lot to convince me when it comes to RPGs but I have to get some out of the way first.It's hard to love a genre this time consuming.
>>12164621I beat BOF4 in just over 24 hoursBut 50% of that was spent in battles and I sped them up by putting the emulator on 2x speed, so it was really 16 hours of real time, 24 hours in the in-game timer.
>>12163752Holy soul, I wasn't familiar with Capcom's game. When it comes to BoF2, I admit I played it for the first time as a kid and found the translation to be good enough. The biggest hurdle to understanding things were the item name abbreviations. The dialogue is very simple but I have to admit that I prefer it that way to the fanfic additions made by Ryusui.For ranking I would have to go with BoF2 > BoF1 > BoF3 since I prefer 2 to 1 and quit playing 3 after, eh, maybe 10 hours. 3 was obviously of very high quality but the beginning was weak and I didn't get drawn into the plot later on either. I didn't like the dragon master concept either. 1 is a bit too simplistic whereas 2 had some really nice features like fusions, base building, hunting and fishing mini games. The encounter rate is too high in both of the games, I always play the battles with fast-forward on.Patty best girl.
>>12165324Based. She deserved to be a party member. That'd certaily help with having more fanart of her.
This was the precise moment in BOF4 I realized I was playing pure kino.
>Patty's back sprite is just a g-stringLewd, Capcom.
>>12165620>>12165606>>12165324So, is she really Ryu's loster sister?Does he ever realize it? Does she?
There were only a few kids who played RPGs in my school growing up. We pretty much all rented them from the same place and had a kind of code of honor not to delete each other's save files if we could avoid it. I remember talking to one of the guys about the first game and he kept calling the "WtrJr" item you need to find in Romero the "Water Junior." Anyway, that's my Breath of Fire story. And he was a good friend.
>>12165790IIRC they remember near the end of the game?
>>12166000Checked. And I loved the gamble of renting RPGs and PRAYING someone didn't delete your save file. On the other end of that it was kind of fun to rent a game that had an endgame save and you could just cruise through the final boss.
So a Breath of Fire thread doesn't get more than 70 replies, huh?Sad...sad.
Rei was here
>>12156715>>12156725I have tried to play through 3 several times since the late 90s and just get burned out and drop it somewhere along the way before you ever make it to the adult part. It's a very pretty, charming game but it just never quite clicked with me.
Yeah, it's time to replay the series again.I fucking love Breath of Fire and Nina II is my eternal love.
>>12168257You can shit on me for this if you want, but...The child part was boring me to death, so I used GameShark to speedrun through the child part and get to the adult partOnce you meet "Garr" the story starts getting interesting
It took 28 years but finally decent resolution upload of Momo's art that isn't a badly edited version with wrong colors.
>>12170518As soon as Momo showed up, it felt like BOF3 turned into Momo's GameShe's the only person who understands or knows how to use advanced technology, so every time any sort of mechanical/technological problem came up, Momo became the focusThere were no "Ah, this is Rei's area of expertise, time for Rei to take the spotlight" moments. Only "Momo, it's another techno gadget. We need you." over and over.I didn't mind at all, since Momo was cute.
>>12170530The sad but funny part is at least Rei can unlock some doors and is party mandatory in the last dungeon so you can have with you when you encounter Teepo. Nina? Her shooting chrysm magic field ability is ONLY used at Momo's tower and then NEVER again.
>>12170481The beginning is pretty fun but then those horse faggots show up and the story just grinds to a complete halt.
>>12171257>horse faggots
>>12159561https://bof.fandom.com/wiki/Bow
>>12171416There are two and they can fusion into an Ultraman-like one.
>>12171581Fun fact, they removed the Ultraman reference in the PSP port.
>>12171572Says he was only in one game.
>>12159561He's probably referring to a couple of arguing BoF3 NPCs which look exactly like Bow and Sten. They're never confirmed to be them, though.
>>12171597I mean, the two NPCs actually being Bow and Sten makes no difference does it? It's clearly meant to be just an easter egg for the player.
>>12171607Agreed, I'm just guessing what that retard (bot?) who said Bow is a recurring character meant.
>>12171613Oh yeah, that made no sense. Specially considering the retard doesn't know that all Ryus and Ninas are different people while Bleu/Deis is the same.
>>12157396I feel like BoF1's characters are meant to be archtypes, the platonic ideal of a JRPG party's makeup, a group of characters that could reasonably fit in any game. Reduce them any further and the JRPG party ceases to exist in a meaningful state.The idea is really hammered home by the mural on BoF3's title screen: The protagonist and his allies battle a fierce, godlike entity for the future of their world. That sort of idea can sum up virtually any RPG's central plot, with the individual character identities and drama being interchangeable. When you play the original Breath of Fire, I feel like you are playing the template of all JRPGs, even more than games like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.
>>12163098One thing BoF1 and 2 have over the SNES FFs is the character sprites in battle are far more detailed. I never really gave it credit when I first played the games, but FF only has very simplistic character sprites, partially because FFIV was originally being developed for the NES.
>>12172156Yeah, for a time when battle graphics were tiny chibis vs still images of hyper detailed monsters, BoF was Capcom flexing its animation muscles by making everything have attack animations and the like.
>>12170113Ok but don't use AI
I love Breath of Fire 3 so much, I really miss 90s Capcom in general with all the colorful and cool characters
>>12172871Damn, the view should have been a little more to the left
>>12172871It's my favorite too.I understand the complaints about the slow start but the reward for it is an amazing RPG full of beautiful art, music, a vast world with great atmosphere that feels alive and interesting characters. The fishing minigame in it is so good it could be a game on it's own.Also, this incarnation of Myria made me feel feelings that are hard to explain.
>>12172871BoFIII just has a ton of soul. One my my all time favorite games as well. There's something about the mood that feels really unique. Love the jazz fusion inspired soundtrack, too. And it balances melancholy, slapstick and some hard biting shit real well.
I had such a crush on Nina when I was a kid. Is there any concept art of her older self with the blue outfit after she goes through the time hole? Her portrait is different so they surely had to have a sketch of that at least. But I've never been able to find anything.
>>12174703Nothing's ever been publicly shown off or found. It probably exists though, BoF3's Deis for instance was never put in any art book and the only sketch we have for it was a single color one from the PSP port's bonus gallery.
Nina get machine gun
>>12174763Also when I mean "single color" image for Deis, I mean it literally.
>>12173635Yeah it was really the perfect culmination of the series up to that point imo and as much as I do love a lot of things about Breath of Fire 4, I wish they'd kept going with the vibe/precedent that 3 set
>>12174815Nina lose clothes
>>12175140Is that official?
>>12159671High encounter rate wouldn't be a problem if the battles weren't bland as fuck.I don't remember how far I got into it the last time I played but I distinctly recall making a 4chan post explaining in detail how Final Fantasy MYSTIC QUEST (which I'd been playing alternately at the time) had superior combat depth. I was an hour or so into the game and still had basically no options in battle other than physical attack or using a damage item from inventory. At the same point in FFMQ there was a full range of choices to make each turn.I assume BoF was going to get better eventually, but I never had the motivation to go back and push on.
>>12159671No it's the fuck not. I've never seen a game more deliberately and maliciously waste the player's time on such mediocre-at-best trash. BoF1 is easily the only JRPG I've played that's legitimately 1 out of 5. >no story>no slow>tedious>battles suck >health bars lie>directionless>long>even with super secret form the final boss is like 20 minutes long of spamming one attack
>>12176805It was a big bummer when I figured out magic damage was hard coded flat numbers. Elemental weakness/strength barely even matters and most players will never even notice it.
>>12176823>I've never seen a game more deliberately and maliciously waste the player's time on such mediocre-at-best trash.Xenogears combat isn't as quite bad as BoF1, but almost, and that game is like 80 billion hours long.
>>12176903I think a few enemies and bosses take significantly lower or higher damage depending on what element they are hit with. That SandWorm boss for example takes a lot of damage from ice attacks and resists fire.It's only a few of them anyway and it barely matters.
>>12177040There's also Nina's anti zombie spells and Ryu has a whole dedicated anti-zombie dragon form for some reason. I never had a use for any of them because even the toughest undead mobs die to plain melee really fast.
>>12177138At least the dragon form feels real powerful. You transform, stuff dies.
>>12176903It kinda came in handy sometimes.>Specific enemy has 255 defense, but only 20 HP>All of your attacks will only do 1 damage to it>The only way to kill it is to attack it 20 times>...OR, use ChopChop, a move that ignores the enemy's defense and does 20 flat damage, instakilling itI enjoyed finding little exploits like that.
>>12176805>High encounter rate wouldn't be a problem if the battles weren't bland as fuck.Disagree, "bland" combat isn't an issue in Dragon Quest. It's all about balance.
>>12176986XG also has the best story of any JRPG, or RPG for that matter.Its combat system is also a shred of what it was supposed to be, which was essentially a turn-based fighting game. Almost all of it was gutted. Funny enough, the introductory battles in the first combat zone incorporate the positioning system they had to remove, which is very confusing to a first-time player. You expect positioning to be a part of the battle system, but it's really not.
>>12176668Yeah, PSP had a bunch of concept art you could unlock in a bonus fishing minigame.
Sex with Bleu
>>12156562Does she just enjoy snekmaxxing? She could just as easily take a human form couldn't she?
>>12156562does she poop out of her human butt or her snake butt? asking for a friend
>>12178679It's about the lack of any semblance of depth or variety at all. There's no decisions to make except about which enemy to kill first, and the encounter variety is minimal and that decision is usually meaningless. So it's ridiculously monotonous even by grindy JRPG standards.
>>12179296If you tell her you prefer her with legs in III you get locked out of the best master in the game.
>>12157487>Nothing happens and every battle is piss easy I including ing bosses for the first 20 hoursThat's normal for RPGs, first 20 hours is basically the tutorial. Last 20 is also tutorial.
>>12179441Almost made me ragequit.
>>12179441>If you tell her you prefer her with legs in III you get locked out of the best master in the game.WHAT
>>12181115She takes pride in her naga form.
Should I start with bof1?I got half way through 3 years ago but dropped it for some reason...now I got the itch to play bof but either 2 or 1 first
>>12181146Give 3 a try again.
>>12181146Do you enjoy playing old RPGs?BoF I is a pure, classic RPG with a clean cut story about traveling the world, meeting companions, growing powerful and beating the ancient evil thing. It's not ambitious and doesn't do anything flawlessly but does everything very well.Of course, I love the series as a whole so my opinion will be biased.
>>12168028Tell me more about this evil fatty.
>>12181272Demons make you fat.
>>12179317Both.
>>12181272You have to make a queen thin by beating to death every single fat cell in her body. It's also part of one of the most tedious fetch quest chains ever put into an RPG.
>>12181136To be fair it's probably a pretty comfy form to curl up in if you're gonna spent centuries being a lazy neet.
>>12181284Demons do a lot of things
>>12181337
>>12179441When you see her with legs, she's naked.When you see her with a snake tail, she's wearing clothes.The statement "I preferred you the way you were before" implies that you don't want to see her wearing clothes, and want to see her naked.This is why she gets upset at you, because you're being a perv.
>>12181351I think understand people who likes snake girls now.
>>12172156>neglect Sten>he gets a solo segment all to himself>get fucked for not leveling him upDoes any other BoF game do this? Whenever someone on /v/ posts that one segment where the useless party member goes solo, Sten seems to be the poster boy.
>>12181351>FOURTH skin color for KarnI've seen him purple, brown, white and now grey
>>12181458Nina's dungeon is worse because even if you've been using her the entire game she can't solo a paper bag
>>12181526stens is still worse cause if you use the save point you're locked in there until you clear the solo section ffs
>>12181523Karn is whatever color you need him to be to make Inafune's vision of a black person the most uncomfortable. >that one commentary in the Megaman artbook where the Breath of Fire artist looks at Oilman and says "haha he looks just like Karn haha!"
>>12181369>This is why she gets upset at you, because you're being a perv.There's nothing pervert about a straight male telling an attractive woman, who presented herself naked to him, that he liked what he saw. Pervert would be peeking on her.It should've been the opposite. She should be flattered and aroused that you are such an alpha as to tell her straight to her face that you like to see her naked.
>>12181935Ryu and Bleu kinda look like Dragon Ball characters here.>that NinaHoly shit...
>>12179337Generally what I want in an RPG battle system is to use my strongest attacks and move on.
>>12182397>tfw the ghosts didn't bring you your tendies
2>3>4>1Nina2>Katt>Nina 3>that fox lady from 4>Momo>=Nina 1>Nina 4.I don't wanna fuck snakes so all the power to those that do.
>>12181538Near the save point, there's a room with cockroaches that die in 1 hit so you can just farm cockroaches to level Sten upBut the cockroaches only give like 1 exp so it would take hours to level upReally dunno what the fuck the developers were thinking
>>12183034whatever they were thinking they surely got me good, later in the game when you get anfini i was still so upset that i chose to sacrifice sten without hesitation and had to do the whole thing a second time
It's funny how everyone who plays BoF II complaining about Sten's solo sidequest means no one uses him willingly.
The only solo segment I had on my mind was this one; but now that you mention it, I remembering being thankful for having kept an earlier save for Sten's.
>>12182529"Strongest" implies more than one attack to choose from.
>>12183047Lol.I sacrificed Sten too. I think everyone chose to sacrifice the monkey.
>>12183069For all the shit that Sten gets...Purely from a narrative standpoint, I thought it was interesting that the game introduces Sten to you as this pervy comic relief character, and many hours later you learn that he was once a respected military leader who developed PTSD after seeing all his friends die and fled his homeland in shame."This is the joke character, he's a street performer who tries to flirt with your female party members" is boring. "This guy gave up his highly-respected position, exiled himself, and adopted a new persona as a street performer because he can't handle the traumatic experiences he's been through" is more interesting.My Sten wasn't weak, either, so, I didn't have any problems doing his solo segment. I'm not saying it was pure kino, but it was kinda memorable and it was interesting to see this character get fleshed out. I like the fact that every character in BOF2 had a segment dedicated to them where we learn more about them and see that there's some depth to them.FUCK the Gobi segment, though.
>>12183542Yeah, Gobi is irredeemable and the underwater segment is tied with Mote's labyrinth for the worst part of BoF I.
I used to think this boss was glitched or something. WAY tougher than anything else up to that point. Fortunately you get the dragon transformations not long after this and the game becomes more or less a cakewalk at that point.
>>12183069I used Sten in my first playthrough. I was excited to take him in genie form to the final dungeon... but then you find out it has the fucking pegs so you have to go back and unfuse him for the entire thing
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>>12183717Yeah, he's a serious difficult spike.I had not played the game for years, forgot about him completely, then I finally replayed the game thinking I was gonna crush it with 0 deaths and was blindsided by him. Wrecked my party.Other than him, I think only Jade poses a threat of game over. Maybe Mothro too if you get unlucky with dodges, paralysis and shock.
Guys wtf, am I the only one here who enjoyed the Gobi part and the Sten part? I actually liked the Nina parts as well even in Bof 1 and Bof 2. The only part I disliked is with the frog guy and finding his cake because of the repetitive music in the castle, it gets old very fast.
>>12183995It's still funny how the joke in Jean's chapter is how EVERYONE knows who the impostor is and they just don't care.
What does /vr/ think of Command Mission, aka the real BoF6?
>>12181351Never seen this before, ty
>your game is so bad you have to literally add an autobattle feature
>>12184665The other half if you were wondering.
>>12184674based
>>12184516>What does /vr/ think of Command MissionI love it, although the encounter rate is a little too high. I really liked the mechanaloid missions, i'd be looking forward to see if they leveled up and see what rewards they brought back. X's Ultimate Armor in that game is so ridiculous and cool at the same time, I love it.>aka the real BoF 6What?
>>12184352That's some classic Japanese humor (not derogatory).
>>12184683>What?That plays more like an actual BoF game than the F2P mobage and Dragon Quarter.
I have no idea how I beat Breath of Fire II so easily as an ESL kid back in the day.
>>12184756hahaha
>>12184756>>12185802Ryu's not a little girl anymore.
>>12156562fuk off anon.
>>12184672I can see two valid interpretations here.>If a game's combat is so shallow that most battles can be won by mindlessly mashing the attack button, and the battles are so boring that the developers implement an auto-battle system that mashes the attack button for you, we can conclude that the game's combat is objectively shit.or,>The ability to auto-battle is a convenient quality-of-life feature, and the developers are bros for adding itPersonally I'm 50/50 on this one
>>12186239auto-battle is to jrpgs what what auto-fire is to shmups.
>>12186314A core part of the genre?
>>12186239I have no idea what you're trying to say but if your combat sucks so bad that there's an autobattle button then you need to fire whoever designed it.
>>12186321Why does autobattle imply anything negative about the combat? I haven't heard you present any reasoning yet.
>>12186414>Why does autobattle imply anything negative about the combatjust watch a movie, emily
>>12186414Why are you feeding attention to a retarded frogposter?
>>12186831How can you tell he's French?
I beat the first game a while back, got a few hours in to 2 and remember dropping it because I found it both really difficult for some reason (everything hits like a fucking truck) and because some item combining trial and error minigame, I think it was cooking, was really pissing me off.
>>12186414NTA and while I can still enjoy jrpgs that have it, autobattle does imply the combat is so braindead that you can just automate spamming attack over and over again for most fights. It's just boring.
>>12187850the beginning of BoF2 up until you finish the well in captain is really harsh, no healers and 3 characters that go down in two strong hits
I just found out that some of the best equipment you can have for a long stretch of the game in BoF I are only temporarily available in Prima's flea market and easily missable.
