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I own almost every console and a ton of computers. its not cool its a curse.

i really want to scale down the hoard of antique ewaste i have to cart around through life, and emulation options seem like a good idea. media center pc would be pricey and complicated to navigate but would have more power and could do more than just old games. mister seems like its simpler in a good way but also kinda weak once you get into the cd era which is my main interest. raspbi seems to have been left in the dust these days. so here's what im curious about:
>what cannot still be emulated well or at all, mister, pc, or otherwise
>are there any systems that mister can emulate that aren't as well fleshed out for pc
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>>12174819
I used to have something like this. Then had kids. Now I have 37 external Hard drives.
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i really dislike wealthy people (combination of personal jealousy and ethics). if you can afford what is, let's face it, children's toys to the point you're 'worried about' them, then i HOPE you have a housefire.
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>>12174837
>Now I have 37 external Hard drives
Based ROM aficionado
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>>12174840
I agreed with you until
>Children's toys
In 2025, retro gaming and being children's toys, isn't a practical way of describing them, and the dollars generated, don't say that either.
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>>12174840
you dont need to be wealthy to afford a pile of old video game consoles anon.
regardless, with the exception of some shit imported from japan i haven't bought any consoles in like at least 10 years so i didn't pay current prices. but even if i was forced to pay modern prices its still not an unobtainable goal only the rich are privy to.

im also not worried about them, i want to get rid of them. i hate having this pile of decaying shit i rarely use. i feel like a man child and i'd much rather put the money they're worth towards something cool, like bills.
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>>12174852
This.

I think anon butt mad being late to the party and all. Likely has something to do with the posters age.
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I bought a Mister recently because I still have my old CRT TV from 25+ years ago and it was pretty easy to set up with s-video. It emulates all home consoles up to and including PS1,N64 & Saturn. Compatibility is nearly perfect, but there's a few issues here and there. One of the biggest reasons I bought it was to play old arcade games on my CRT, but when I tried to load Sunset Riders or Turtles in Time I was locked out of the controls and a message popped up asking for a file from the developer's paid patreon. I think it's really scummy to demand money for access to emulation of arcade roms from 35 years ago. Been playing a lot of Neo Geo and PS1 on it though and it works really well for those two consoles.
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>>12174819
To play almost everything you need some combination of the following.
High-End PC hooked to a TV: Will play almost anything. You can dualboot some retroarch operating system to play the old stuff, and there should be non-retroarch core emulators for newer stuff (Switch/3DS/PS3/Wii). This will also let you play stuff like Doom/Quake and all the custom maps/games will work.
Hacked PS3: Plays PS3 games natively, has a built-in PS2/PS1 emulator that is good enough, has emulators for MOST things a raspberry pi with lakka/retropie can run, but is missing some retro-PCs and Dreamcast.
Hacked Wii: Plays Wii/GC games natively, will emulate anything older than PS1.
Hacked Switch: It's generally inferior to the Wii/PS3 setup, but there are still a large variety of emulators for it. Will play Switch games as a plus. The best thing about it is the GZDoom port, trying to play custom doom maps in source ports on other hacked consoles or lakka/retropie for raspberry pi is hit or miss, GZDoom/MBF requiring maps usually don't work.
Raspberry Pi/Mister/MisterPi: Will play anything older than PS2. Pi is emulation, Mister is FPGA. Some Mister cores like Saturn run a lot better than the equivalent emulation option on Pi, but the Mister costs more.

What doesn't emulate well yet:
Mainly Xbox consoles, and Saturn if you don't go with the PC or Mister.
The only decent Xbox emulator has 80%~ compatibility. I'm not sure how well the 360 emulator works, but that's not really a retro console anyway. The newer non-retro stuff like PS3 and 360 onward either requires a very high end PC, or isn't emulateable at all.
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>>12174852
>>12174819
Unless you're actively showing them off to people like a tour guide or something, yeah, get rid of them. You can't take any of it with you when you die.
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>>12174842
Sort of. Less wasted space and can play every game I've ever owned on a PC. Only console I can't emulate right now is Switch 2, but I'm not missing out.
My wife has filled out binders with what is on each hard drive...or I'd probably have just deleted games I didn't like and wouldn't need so many hard drives.
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>>12174840
You know what. I really love your honesty. It's so hard to find people like this even as Anon.
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>>12174840
I'm curious about what your ethical concerns are, if you wouldn't mind explaining.
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>>12174872
i dont care about anything xbone/ps4 era or later. its all either on steam or its trash. I'm basically just trying to figure out what systems i'll need to hang onto if i still want to play games on a couch. the "weird" consoles are the biggest concern of mine. saturn, 3do, cdi, casio loopy, fm towns, super grafx, etc. i want to be able to retain the ability to play those without having to keep owning them.

>>12174878
i want them gone and have for a long time now, its a logistical nightmare trying to organize the power and video cables of 40+ consoles/tv's/av equipment. plus the a/v switchboxes and the upscalers, and the rgb cables, and the soldering equipment to replace the caps, and capture devices, and and and and. i spend more time maintaining this shit and acquiring junk to go with it than i do using it. it was worse when i still had all my carts and discs. i went to flash carts and ode's in everything i could about 5 years ago which helped a ton. my gf was a computer nerd so i hung onto the consoles/computers for her when we moved in together but
>was
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>>12174919
Yeah sell it to people who'll be happy to have em. There's this collector streamer gal on youtube, she'll go through the manual on camera, she'll examine the box art. Doesn't need to be her, just someone who can appreciate it since you don't anymore, which is fine.
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>>12174919
Emulation is not perfect on anything you mentioned, even on PC, your best bet is FPGA.
Also, if you downsize to just the stuff that doesn't emulate well, it won't be such a headache compared to 40 consoles.
I only really have an emulation setup and a few sega consoles now, and it's enough that I only need 1 tv, 1 power strip, and no upscalers/switchboxes. Sometimes I have to lean behind the CRT to swap a composite cable, but that's not really a big deal when there's 3 or 4 of them, and if you have your CRT/Stand in a corner not against a wall, so that there is space behind it.
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>>12174942
>Also, if you downsize to just the stuff that doesn't emulate well, it won't be such a headache
yes thats what i've been saying im doing.

>>12174925
i would never sell my things to a youtuber, or worse, a woman.
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>>12174819
I’ll be more than happy to help you downsize. Seriously, I can take most of that stuff off your hands no problem.
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>>12175012
At least you have enough sense to not sell anything tech related to a woman.
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>>12175019
$200,000 USD, with an extra $100,000 ontop for every rung of the pyramid you are below A10, or $500,000 for any row with a T in it.

>>12175030
tech?
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>>12174852
Find some kid who’s interested in this retro stuff. That’s what I’m trying to do. Worst case, there’s always eBay.
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>>12175048
You can always go to the local library and get a retro section going. Did this at the Library in my home town. Converted the Tech Lab into a good old gaming center.
It's even educational, with how graphics, and programming have evolved.
Had my STARS coach even come in a few times to show how the processors worked and making a circuit board.
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>>12175040
Damn I’m a d-30. I guess my German and Scottish blood were not enough to get me the discount required for such a purchase. Damn it to hell why couldn’t my ancestors be Vikings for this one transaction!
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>>12175040
>>12175012
Ah so you don't actually want to get rid of this stuff. You're just here to moan.
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>>12174819
You don't need a media PC.

Get a streamer box (Nvidia Shield is best, but even a Google TV Streamer 4K and other stuff in that vein is fine), and a solid PC anywhere else in your home. Install Sunlight/Moonlight on both of them. You can now stream your gaming PC with basically no latency to your streamer, and by extension your TV/living room. It's not even a millisecond of lag.

Now, install Playnite on your PC. It's like Steam Big Picture mode, but it includes EVERY game you have from all services, emulators, ROM hacks, everything. You can also set it up so that it opens automatically when you activate Sunlight/moonlight.

There's guides everywhere for those set ups. I've got my old hardware still because I love it, but sometimes I want to play PC games on my couch, or emulate something for a system I don't have. Absolutely worth it.
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>>12174913
NTA, but generally a lot of wealthy people don't actually contribute much of value to the world, nor do they have any meaningful skills, and frequently their entire personality boils down to their job and the shit they buy. They just lucked out and found themselves in an corner office as a lynchpin to one of the ponzi schemes masquerading as a "corporation" in the western world.

Worst case scenario, a rich person is actually a CEO and/or shareholder in a company, and they're actively guilty of stealing wages and exploiting labor that they couldn't do for a day if their lives depended on it.
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>>12174819
Emulators that suck:
Xbox 360 emulation is shit, you should keep your hacked Xbox360 around.
PS Vita emulation is a mess, keep your Vita/VitaTV around.
PS3 has a few oddities but mostly the emulator is good enough.
Cemu doesnt play all games correctly, but the popular games mostly work well. So maybe keep your WiiU around.

Emulators that used to suck but are good now:
N64 has a essentially perfect emulator called Ares
Gamecube and Wii are better on emu
PS2 emulation is not perfect but at this point i just use the emulator. ill keep my ps2 around for the chance i really wanna play a game and it has breaking issues.

Everything else ur perfecty fine using an emulator.
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>>12175704
oh and DS and 3DS, keep those around, because dualscreens and touchscreen on a PC arent gonna be the same.
Just sell all your cartridges and use ROMs on real hardware with a softmod
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>>12174819
I love these threads where OP is trying to influence the board by pretending to undergo some epiphany. It seems to be a common theme on all boards here, and interestingly this effort always seems aimed at trying to change prevailing thinking or taste.

Just admit it OP, you have no collection. You had to go to Reddit to find that pic.
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>>12174867
That's fucking crazy, I play Sunset Riders on my Raspberry Pi for free.
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>>12175704
Vita emulation is really new so I think its fair to give it a pass for now.

RPCS3 has felt really stagnant to me, I feel like there has been 0 tangible improvements, at least with the games I have tried/want to play, in the past 5 years. I still have the same issues with the same games now as I did then. What sucks the most about it is that the issues mostly all just crash the games. If it were just graphical inaccuracies I might be able to overlook it and trudge on through the game but that's not an option.

Xbox 360 is weirdly hit or miss for the stuff I've tried. The game either works flawlessly or it doesn't work at all.

Idk given the complexity and newness of these systems and emulators, I think the point they're at now is okay. It remains to be seen if theyll get better.

You mention Dolphin being better than real hardware but I have to fucking disagree lol. So many games that aren't just the popular ones run like dogshit even on a powerful machine. And the settings that are on out of the box break something in literally every single game. Hell they only JUST RECENTLY AS OF LIKE 2 MONTHS AGO solved the shitty frame pacing that its been plagued with for its entire lifespan(not even entirely solved its just better than it was). Theres still a lot of graphical inaccuracies they need to iron out too. The shader compilation stutter also still insane. I wish they would just finally make the software renderer usable so we can bypass all this crap or someone else just comes along and makes a new emulator entirely. PCSX2 ate their lunch and is embarrassingly better and that only got good a few years ago.
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>>12174819
I went through the same thing a few years ago. I had come into a lot of disposable income in 2020 and spent a lot of it on just getting absolutely everything. I had every single console no matter how obscure(shit like a boxed Apple Pippin) and a few old micro computers. Flashcarts and ODEs for all of them, RGB mods for all of the ones I could, modchips, PVMs, several CRTs, literally everything. I achieved retro God status. At some point I realized I was doing more tinkering than I was playing: Gotta put this and that on the flashcart, gotta burn these CDs, gotta tweak the settings on my PVM for whatever system every time before I play, "ah shit the 3DO RGB modchip came loose again gotta resolder", Saturn needs to be recapped, etc etc. I also like to stream games to my friends while we hang out and getting that working was a nightmare every single fucking day even with the best equipment you can buy. One day I was just fucking sick of it all. I sold everything, not even for what it was probably worth, and bought the best PC components I could buy and a 4K OLED 120hz TV so I could use CRT shaders. I don't miss real hardware in the slightest(I kinda miss my 64DD and Virtual Boy but only because I think they're neat, I can play the games just fine on PC.)

Emulation is really good, borderline perfect now for just about everything 6th gen and below.(Xbox aint all the way there yet but its making good progress). YOU DO NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. Everyone on here that has a bad opinion of emulation I guarantee is either using outdated shit, has settings turned on that negatively impact things(even just resolution increases tend to cause problems), complains about shit that doesn't matter like trannies or imperceptible shit like RNG not being calculated the same as a real console, or simply just trying to run demanding stuff on a potato. If you're not fucking stupid, use the correct emulators and dial in the most console accurate settings it will just work.
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>>12175779
>What sucks the most about it is that the issues mostly all just crash the games.
I encountered this in 1 PS3 game, the fix was not documented in the wiki, and when i tried to add it to the wiki it wouldnt let me.
but the fix was to enable the hidden debug menu though editing an ini file, and then enabling Force CPU Blit Emulation. So yeah................... this emu could use some automatic game fixes on a per game basis.. but im sure even then some games will still crash, just saying, sometimes there are very hard to find fixes.

When I use dolphin, i always turn all the settings to the ultra-accurate but ultra-slow settings (except interpreter ofcourse). But I guess i only play the normie games that have gotten alot of attention.
Shader compilation stutter is mostly solved with the Ubershader setting, BUT ONLY ON DX11, Vulkan+Ubershader will still have shader comp stutter, use DX11!

PCSX2 is going to get infinitely better when the soft-float PR gets merged in december, and the Retroarch LRPS2 core has the compute-shader renderer which is software renderer on steroids like ParraLLEl is for N64.
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>>12175867
I also use all the "slow" settings on Dolphin and still run into problems. I like to play a lot of weird Wii trash on stream with friends and mostly the issue is games just running too slow(speedup options don't fix them either). Lots of framebuffer and render to texture stuff on Wii is broken too, for example games that ask you to paint something or whatever. I actually find OpenGL to be more accurate with the graphics and less crazy on the shader compilation stutter most of the time so I just stick to that. Idk, for the most part its an okay emulator but its really fallen behind compared to what everyone else is doing and I wouldn't be surprised if all the normies that don't know any better calling it perfect all the time has led to its stagnation.
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My philosophy is, have real hardware as a backup for when emulators fail, but play on emulator first.
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>>12175693
I don't disagree with anything you've said. But I asked for his ethical concerns, not the ressentiment behind them.
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>>12174819
Divorce Thanos looks to be around the corner for you.
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>>12176246
>not moving all your stuff to your secret storage unit one day when your wife is at work
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>>12175728
Its a bunch of bots no other explanation, I havent been to /vr/ in like 6 months yet it's the same retarded faggot threads like this one for years on end.
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>>12174819
Very impressive. Although I'd stick to one version of each console, I like the effort that you put into adding multiple versions of the same console, as well as collecting their minis.
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>>12175594
>No you don't
name one and i'll prove it.

>>12175704
I'm glad at least one person has read the OP and at least somewhat understood what i was asking.

>>12176246
>as if anyone that uses this website will ever touch a vagina let alone get married
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>>12176487
>name one and i'll prove it.
I'll never turn down the opportunity to see a functioning Sharp X68000.
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>>12176475
thats not mine. i own no zelda tshirts nor bald spots. i grabbed a random image from google.
pic rel is probably the cleanest image i have left of [some] of my setup from before i moved.
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>>12176501
thats a computer not a console but you got me i dont own that. I dont have a jag, a lynx, a virtual boy, a pong console, vectrex, pippin, laseractive, or a neo geo AES but i do have a NGCD and i consider that good enough. im sure theres a couple others i've forgotten and stuff that barely qualifies as a game console that some pedantic asshat will bring up but i dont care.

someone spoonfeed and tell me how is PCFX emulation these days
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>>12174840
>then i HOPE you have a housefire
this is how I feel about unreleased prototype hoarders... scratch that, I hope every one of them chokes to death. so their family can sell off all their beloved plastic trash, for literal pennies on the dollar
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>>12176638
Proto hoarders are insane to me because I don't understand what makes them think they're sitting on millions of dollars. No prototype of any game ever has sold for more than like 3 grand, even the really juicy ones that are undumped. And thats on the high end, as someone who's bought and helped dump a few high profile releases, I've never paid more than a $1000 for anything. Nobody that collects them intending to retire on them understands how niche of a market it is, even with more people being into it these days. They also tend to retain their value even after being dumped, Ive resold and seen others resell for the same price as they were purchased for and in a lot of cases they sell for more once people know exactly what's on it but still not the tens of thousands of dollars the hoarders think they're worth.

The worst part is a lot of these people don't even know what makes a good proto, most of the shit the famous hoarders have are like post release PAL dev carts with a debug menu enabled or a framerate counter in the corner and nothing actually interesting on them. Shit like that is worth literally fucking nothing, if they are technically one of a kind versions of a game, nobody is going to want it and the few out there that maybe would certainly wouldn't be willing to pay more than a hundred bucks or so.
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>>12175040
You'd be lucky to get $25,000 tops.
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>>12174925
That sounds totally gay. You know youtubers are professional attention seekers right?
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>>12175040
Grampa, we are in the future now. Changing from a T-50 to an A-10 is barely 5000€.
https://www.eyecos.eu/en/cost-and-method-of-payment/
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>>12174819
>CD-era
It handles up to the N64, PS1 and Saturn.
Dreamcast is where it starts to struggle in which case the only option is the original or a PC.
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>>12174872
I'd just put a WiiU instead of a Wii because it does the same things + plays WiiU titles. It also has many native emulators, on top of my head the N64, NES and SNES. It's also extremely easy to download the games from the official servers just like with sony (search wiiudownloader on github)
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>>12174840
Need a tampon, sis?
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>>12177495
As opposed to letting your belongings collect dust because they no longer mean as much to you? Don't be stupid.
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>>12174819
I'll take that rubbish off your hands for £5 mate
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>>12179489
I can think of many other people who would actually appreciate those games and consoles rather than an attention seeking twat who is really only doing it for the money and will basically make the same content as thousands of other attention seekers. The other anon who mentioned the library is one great example. Your kids and relatives is another
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>>12174819
this shit is just sad. this isnt a hobby it is a shopping list. they are shelf decorations literally none of them are plugged in apart from the ps5

i have a ps2, ps3 wii and xbox in my room and along with my laptop it is more games than i will ever play in my life and they all fit in to two kallax squares and dont take up an entire fucking wall

people who collect consoles like funko pops annoy the hell out of me because they inflate the prices on the used market. they have no idea what a gameboy is worth and will throw 100 dollars at one to put it on their shelf, fucking over the rest of us who just want to buy one to play games on it
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>>12179683
Nobody's kids cares about this stuff. Don't fool yourself. Any relatives who were interested would already be knocking on the door.
>library
On its way out / good way to make sure nobody sees this collection.
> rather than an attention seeking twat who is really only doing it for the money
Again, as opposed to letting it all collect dust because none of it means as much to you? Some people showcase old shit to other people, yes, for money. We've had television shows about that since the 20th century. I'm going to ask that you stop replying to me. You're just too fucking stupid for this conversation. Actually nevermind, I'll just do that myself.
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>>12179760
Kek and then he is pretending to be someone else who is desperate to give some e-thot his stuff in the vain hope they will give him some attention. There are plenty of people who would actually appreciate it but they can't possibly fathom anything further afield than his mum's basement and youtube
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>>12174819
Emulation of classic systems has gotten good enough, you don't need to hoard e-waste anymore.
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>>12174819
>i have to cart around through life

Do you fucking move house often or something?
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>>12179965
most people can't afford a house and are constantly moving between rentals
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>>12176503
Looked pretty cool and comfy anon
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>>12180098
>most people are constantly moving houses
Do you live in bloody Mongolia or something?
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Stop keeping your childhood collection.
Start getting rid of it, you don't need it!
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>>12174878
You can't take anything with you when you die, and frankly most of us will be forgotten in a couple of generations at most whether we have kids or not. Genuinely not trying to be a nihilistic faggot about it but it's just kinda true.
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>media center pc would be pricey and complicated to navigate
Only shills would think of something this retarded.
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>>12174819
>i really want to scale down the hoard of antique ewaste
Welcome to the final stage of being a collector, where you realize that the hobby of collecting has completely enveloped your joy of gaming and all your rare showpiece consoles are display only because they're too valuable to be used for playing games so you're left with a bunch of expensive plastic that sits on shelves to get dusted.
I got rid of 95% of my stuff years ago and know of plenty of others who have as well. You won't miss it, and if you do you can always collect as a slower pace under a very specific set of criteria. After I got rid of all my crowns and jewels, I slowly built up a good Sega Genesis collection out of cheap loose carts that actually get played. I also buy cheap PS1 games sometimes. Almost all the consoles I still have were gifts or were repaired from a broken state and either have an Everdrive, an ODE, or softmods. All of them get played.
>media center pc would be pricey and complicated to navigate
Not at all. A $100 thin client PC can emulate most stuff up to Dreamcast/Gamecube with zero issues.
These days, there's even a wealth of x86-based handhelds that emulate everything up to Wii at fullspeed.
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>what cannot still be emulated well or at all, mister, pc, or otherwise
As far as retro goes, Saturn, PS2, and Xbox. PCSX2 is still extremely hit or miss, but nearly every single game has some sort of issue, even though most are fairly minor. Unfortunately PS2 is probably the hardest retro system to get good video quality out of, so be prepared to invest in a decent scaler. Saturn emulation has improved a bit but the performance isn't really there, and lag mitigation techniques like runahead aren't compatible with the Saturn cores in RetroArch. Xbox emulation is also slowly coming along, but outside of a custom build that is just dedicated to playing Ninja Gaiden Black, nearly every game still has massive issues.
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>>12175040
being white hasn't saved you from being a loser and it won't save you from dying alone and pathetic
enjoy your plastic toys toys
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>>12176503
love your setup, anon
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>>12174840
envy is a very ugly thing my fellow poorfag.
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>>12180167
None of that has to do with what I said.
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>>12180379
you are a fag
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>>12174819
Stacking things to the ceiling makes the whole thing look tacky.
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I just buy hardware and flash carts.
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>>12181394
>You can't take any of it with you when you die
You literally said that
It's cool though you do you dawg
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>>12174819
Just let go of your childish attachments and get a real hobby that isnt coomlecting thats actually rewarding and inspires personal growth.
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>>12185095
/thread
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>>12174819
I have a Batocera PC that's got everything from the dawn of time up to the PS1, N64, and Sega Saturn. It has Gamecube and Dreamcast games on it too but it's going through a GBSC into a CRT TV at 240p so it's not necessarily the right resolution for those systems. I have a PS2 and a PS3 hooked up to that TV too. That's your older retro stuff sorted. Then you just want a newer console and a decent PC for PC games and you're set.
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>>12174819
>its not cool its a curse.
just wait till you have to move:) if you can't fit all your consoles and games in one plastic storage container, you're probably wasting space and plastic. Emulation pretty much retires old hardware to storage to be enjoy years later without wearing them down meanwhile you can still enjoy the experience of those old games on newer hardware.
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>>12174840
Based
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>>12185781
>just wait till you have to move:)
lol. OP moves his entire collection all the time. It goes everywhere he does. Because it only exists in his imagination.
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>>12174867

I was considering getting one but this makes me not want to.
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>>12185095
Just let go of societal expectations and get an enjoyable hobby that is anything you enjoy that's actually rewarding and inspires personal happiness.
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>>12185095
cringe. only a child worries about being childish.

>>12189001
based and correct take.
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>>12174819
Your post seems rather like B8 and nonsense desu. You don't have any clue why people fix up old stuff or enjoy doing so.
>>12174840
>i really dislike wealthy people (combination of personal jealousy and ethics)
Any idea what a complete immature fool you sound like there?
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>>12187649
this
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I've yet to see a setup that incorporates all major consoles (hooked up and ready to go) while not looking like complete shit
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I'm only interested in what I am interested in, I don't need all the consoles, I have most of them though and stuff like old atari, sega consoles etc I mainly got for free. Zero interest in nintndo stiff gave that all to my kids. I like fixing stuff, its fun in its own right. I like seeing old machines running and loading of tapes and 5.25 inch disks.You don't get that because you are all about 'looks' for the sake of impressions not doing your thing whatever it is because you actually like it



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