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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12175009

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wB0psIa

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
>>
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
Duke It Out in /vr/
Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026
Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zip
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween Project
Game : Doom 2 | MBF21
RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/gbezed.zip

Deep /vr/ied Potato
Game : Doom 2 | MBF21
RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/3fml1f.zip
Now on iDGames!
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=21835

=== NEWS ===
[11-16] DBP77: The Economy of the Dead is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4191

[11-16] SLADE v3.2.9 released
https://slade.mancubus.net/

[11-15] Nova IV update, "Hang on to each other" map finally playable
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/152816-rc3-big-update-new-maps-nova-iv-mbf21-megawad-by-newer-mappers/

[11-14] Odamex 11.2.0 released
https://odamex.net/

[11-14] TNT 2: Devilution final release
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/104882

[11-14] Odamex update: made the linedef in front of the bars that lock the player(s) in the exit lower them if pressed on.
https://files.catbox.moe/qminra.zip

[11-14] Kiss Psycho Circus, repack for modern OSes.
https://archive.org/details/kiss-psycho-circus-repack_202511

[11-12] Pvt Stone update: more weapons, features & cvars.
https://skelegant.itch.io/pvt-stone/devlog/1111163/update-to-v13-maximum-carnage

[11-10] OldUnreal releases final version of patch v469e for Unreal Tournament 1999
https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTournamentPatches/releases/tag/v469e

[11-07] UZDoom 4.14.3 RC1 released
https://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/releases/tag/4.14.3-rc1

[11-07] Fate: A Doom Total Conversion, Episode 2 released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/fate-a-doom-total-conversion

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)
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Wait, it took them more than 30 years to release TNT 2? Is it even as good as the original?
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Oh boy.
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>Deep /vr/ied Potato
is this the new name for hot potato project?
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>>12183745
Well the original wasn't good
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>>12183749
I knew somebody was gonna post this pseud take
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>>12183746
Catvile meme pic is now sus, what a shame.
>doesn't at least use the non-UK-banned non-imgur links
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I love killing demons in video games.
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>>12183754
Respond to the news post with the link, I'll include it next time I make a thread. Thought to be honest I feel like the spammer will throw a fit over it since it would be an "impure" version of the OP post
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>>12183749
did you actually play it or did you download your opinion from basedgoy11
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>V9

Yeah, no.
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>>12183770
exactly my thoughts anytime somebody shits on TNT or plutonia 2
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>tfw started beating Doom 1 and 2 on UV-fast but not pistol start and now realize that due to autism I will have to beat them again on UV-fast + pistol start (still save scumming tho)
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>>12183768
https://archive.org/details/so-you-want-to-play-some-retro-fps/So%20you%20want%20to%20play%20some%20-%20Doom%20v8.png
https://files.xvertigox.com/vertigo-archival/so-you-want-to-play-some-Retro-FPS/
They were posted the last time the thread got rightfully purged, and "v9" still has the disingenuous MM8 description attributing the effort solely to Cutmanmike.
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>>12183781
>still has the disingenuous MM8 description attributing the effort solely to Cutmanmike.
There's nothing disingenuous about it, he's the leading man behind the project. If somebody was to mention everybody involved it would take 5 spots instead of 1.
This has been discussed ad nauseum already, stop trying to drum up drama over nothing.
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>>12183786
fag.
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>>12183776
Do you try to get all the secrets?
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>>12183781
why are you so incessant about forcing your link in the OP? It already has a link for a wad database anyway.
>They were posted the last time the thread got rightfully purged
it wasn't "rightfully" purged since nothing about that thread was against the rules of the site or this board.
you don't seem very trustworthy, I wouldn't advise anybody to include your link anywhere.
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>>12183790
No lol. I mean I have been trying but if I occasionally miss some I'm not gonna go on youtube to find where they are. That's how I dropped doom 2016
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Man why are Quake 2 expansions so mid compared to the first Quake ones, The Reckoning was OK if only a bit uninspired but Ground Zero was a chore to get through with those annoying turrets.
I heard the enhanced version slightly nerfed them but I wanted to play the original for authenticity which was probably not the best idea.

I sure hope Call of the Machine is more interesting than these expansions, I really enjoyed Dimension of the Machine and it looks like it has similar impressive environments.
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>>12183776
Next stop: UV-fast Final Doom.
>>12183786
>There's nothing disingenuous about it
Saying:
>>"he (alone)"
Is wrong, and you don't have to mention him anyways: Very few get author mentions besides what's in the historical shit. It's also sus to defend the entry as opposed to saying it'll get fixed, like what happened with the wadsup entry page.
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>>12183803
>Saying:
>>>"he (alone)"
>Is wrong, and you don't have to mention him anyways: Very few get author mentions besides what's in the historical shit.
Oh yeah it does say that. I guess I misremembered or missed the latest version. Yeah that should get fixed. I'll do it at some point if the guy who made v9 doesn't
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>>12183787
>doom is the biggest word again as opposed to quake
Finally, as it always should be.
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>>12183809
>Oh yeah it does say that.
Yeah, "nothing disingenuous about it" at all...
>I'll do it at some point if the guy who made v9 doesn't
Nah, waste of effort at this point: The wadsup still doesn't have all the entries found on the infograph. Putting those up there is a much better use of time.
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>>12183813
duke bros...
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I'm about to start Redneck Rampage, should I bother playing on normal or just go through the game on easy?
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>>12183825
easy, and then bump it up a notch for each subsequent playthrough
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>>12183821
douk was always and will always be second last after serious sam. it's a franchise you can only indulge in ironically. it never had legit good games.
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>>12183831
Serious Sam had 2 good games
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>>12183825
just don't pick the hardest one as it disables cheats completely. Almost got stuck because of that halfway into the game without any saves to go back to
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>>12183834
which ones?
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>>12183848
First and second encounter though I haven't played the one for consoles
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>>12183791
>it wasn't "rightfully" purged since nothing about that thread was against the rules of the site or this board.
While arguable, "extremely low quality" are reportable and likely bannable. What's not arguable is someone literally spamming pictures of Doomworld members.
>>12183825
Consider Redneck Revised, though it chops out a lot of the fart jokes. If you have a good time with the very first level, you'll likely have a good time with the rest. If the imps who keep screeching "cocaine" become annoying, I might be able to help with that.
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>>12183737
Great OP image.
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>>12183745
I think they started development in 2008 or 2009. The third TNT2 (Exolution, formerly Forever) should release next year, which also has some of the maps that were on the first TNT2 demo versions.
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>>12183997
I completely lost all sympathy for these retardedly time bloated projects after seeing what can a couple autismos (complimentary) from the doomer boards can do in the span of 2 months with a box of textures and a color palette
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>>12183798
Ground Zero is actually quite good when played with the remaster thanks to it's balance changes. Really liked Call Of The Machine myself. Be sure to play Call Of The Void too.
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>>12184001
Thing is, how many Doomer Boards projects have you played?
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>>12184001
Well we do have that one time bloated project ourselves (94 protons). Time bloating usually happens when some major members take sudden long pauses without telling anyone. Well at least those projects are usually good like Necromantic Thirst last year. DBPs are speed maps, so they are done and lead in very different way.
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>>12183798
i agree. i dont get why people dick suck them so much. they just arent fun. but CotM is cool
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For me? It's DPB 29, Morbid Autumn.
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>>12183798
>Man why are Quake 2 expansions so mid compared to the first Quake ones
Both Quake 1 and 2 expansions have all felt "more of the same", for better and worse. They won't do much to change your opinion of either, but they can still be fun if you want more of each.
>>12184020
DBP70 has been my second favorite so far. Augur Zenith will always be my #1.
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i just want to tell you boys that life is good. i might live in a basement under my job, i might be fucking retarded, i might doxx myself, but God has blessed me with a new woman, a pure and good woman to soothe my soul, and i got DOOM on top of it all. i'm so close man, i'm getting out of here soon, i'm gonna have me a little piece of property where i can raise beautiful little blonde children with a woman who loves me despite my flaws, and i'm gonna have chickens and pigs and cows (that i don't even need to unload 30+ on a moo or two on), and i'm fucking loving life man. i couldn't give one less a fuck right now. i prayed to our lord Jesus Christ every day to unfuck the shit show and he did it for me. be good to one another, always sacrifice your ego for the betterment of others, and never give up. live every day to serve God and do what it is right. that which glorifies the creator will glorify you. i love you guys man, please seek good lives filled with love and happiness and forget the hate. play some fucking DOOM, man. play some fucking DOOM and win through.
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>>12184040
Damn dude I don't care fuck off.
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>>12184040
Damn dude I care fuck on.
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>>12184040
Hell yeah, and good to hear from you again, glad you're still kicking sump Peanutbro and that things are looking up. What Doom stuff have you been playing?
>also a handsome devil
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>>12184041
i love you man.
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why does SSG look so weird in AD?
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>>12184027
>Both Quake 1 and 2 expansions have all felt "more of the same", for better and worse. They won't do much to change your opinion of either, but they can still be fun if you want more of each.
That's a bit too much of a disservice if you ask me. Q1 mission packs introduce new mapping capabilities and new enemies, and different mapping philosophies that weren't present within id1. Indeed, they won't do much to change one's opinion of Quake, but if one enjoys Quake, I tout the mission packs as must-plays before diving into mods.
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>>12184050
We love you dude
>>12184054
Try messing with the 'scr_ofsx' console command maybe?
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>>12184054
FOV is too far out I reckon. I go out of my way to make sure the "stock" of each gun isn't visible.
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>>12184058
ahh much better
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>>12183781
Author of these links firmly declared that he has nothing to offer this place, because we are not supportive enough of ditzy men in skirts. Unless you're vertigo himself, in which case you should counterbalance your estrogen intake because you go back on your word often too much, as such was the case with assisting sub mortem.

Also, the host is blocked across Russia, obviously for that precious moral upstanding, and Australia too, for some trully bizzare reason? Someone knowledgeable might elaborate on transaquatic beef the kiwis and emus are having, although it's most likely a mistake.
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>>12184065
The intersection of video games and trans shit is fucking mind boggling. Good riddance to that faggot.
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>>12183737
megasissy op
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>>12184065
>blocking Russia and Australia
Checks out, the worst internet users come from there.
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>>12184040
>>12184050
What a fucking chad
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>>12184057
>Indeed, they won't do much to change one's opinion of Quake
We can at least agree on that, sagefag.
>>12184060
Scr_ofs commands can be negative and/or positive.
>>12184065
Regardless of “trans cooties”, the Internet Archive should still be unblocked in the UK while Imgur certainly is, and that page has both v8 and v9 to make everyone happy. It’ll suffice until someone wants to upload the same set of pngs to the archive.
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>>12183738
[11-18] Burger Bill/Becky has passed away.
https://bsky.app/profile/hmcd.bsky.social/post/3m5u7i37gns2u
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>>12184079
Fuck cancer.
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>>12184080
Fuck it long, and fuck it hard.
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>>12184040
man you're way too cool to be here
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>>12184040
Fred Durst?!
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>>12184040
>>12184050
Shine on Sump Pump Anon. You madman.
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>>12184065
>hur dur culture war shit
>trans rights pls
Can't tell if this is serious or just a shitpost.

>>12184079
>You must sign in to view this post.
In future please don't link walled social media pages directly, just screenshot or link an archive page.

>>12184080
>>12184083
I hope cancer kills the family of every cretin who whinges about cancer, or has those gay "fxck cancer" stickers on their cars.
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>>12184090
he did it all for the nookie
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>>12184104
Well aren't you a ball of sunshine. I'm sure cancer won't take you from this world, but hopefully someone else will.
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>>12184079
Who?
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>>12184110
The mind behind the 3DO port of Doom, which was a task of monumental undertaking.
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What do you guys think of the Doom 2 Master Levels and No Rest for the Living? Some of my favorite maps are in there.

>Titan Manor
>Trapped on Titan
>The Earth Base
>Vivisection
>Inferno of Blood

Straight bangers.
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>>12184040
I love you bro.
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>>12184116
I've always loved the Master Levels, especially Black Tower and Trapped on Titan. At some point I'm going to set aside the time to play Works of the Masters so I can really get the full scope of their work.
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>>12184119
this needs to be the next OP image
>KEEPING IT DOOMED
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>>12184123
As much as I appreciate Sump Pump Anon and what he does, I don't think we should make a thread OP with him.
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>>12184125
too late
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>>12184129
I had forgotten about that, though that out of context it's merely a room with a computer playing Doom.
I'm just personally against having pictures of people as OP images for video game generals.
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>>12184112
Helped remake Killing Time for the PC and Mac, too. Played it recently and had a good time.
>>12184116
>What do you guys think of the Doom 2 Master Levels and No Rest for the Living?
Big polar opposites in terms of quality: Master Levels has a few gems, all of NRftL is a gem.
>>12184123
>>12184125
I’d have to agree that it would need to be more obviously “Doom” related for the people who don’t know him. He is fucking based, though.
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>>12184027
Oh yeah, there was the psychedelic one. I've been trying to think of what to play with Ash and Malefactors. I think that wins.
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>>12184130
fair. though at this point he's practically the patron saint of doomgen so i think it fits. sump anon, what do you think?
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>>12184079
ACK
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>>12184040
have my fucken babies please
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>>12184112
Nice, and I’m not sure how you feel but I wish I was more aware of the map count before going in. Like No Rest for the Living, I was hoping for a lot more maps and wanted more. Very bittersweet.
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>>12184040
Please kill yourself you fucking jabroni limp bizkit looking faggot. God dsmn it I think I might love you first tho
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bitches want the big peanut cock
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vranon you around? The spectre preset fella, he doesn't fly?
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>>12184079
>white power hand sign
Based.
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What a thread
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>>12184189
>autstic tranny jew
>"white power" handsign
you poor fool
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>>12184050
you are hot
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>>12184040
>>12184050
Do us all a favor, and please end your life as quickly as possible.
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>>12184078
>Missing the point
No one at Scotland Yard will revoke your bong license if you appear even mildly supportive of the icky anti-trans xenophobes.

I'm not too keen on charity, especially when it's purposefully dangled in front of me. If you wish for non-restricted doom guides then re-upload them yourself. Don't tie them to an account of someone who's prone to switch promises in a jiffy. But then again, you're effectively toppling imgur/news-archive anon who's the current maintainer of the thing, so i'm not entirely sure which is worse.
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>>12184040
Anti-peanut fags absolutely blown the fuck out.
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If you use UZdoom you're a traitor and a tranny
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>>12184040
Imagine the posts when this chick leaves this guy.
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>>12184079
Can't wait for another dead tranny mapjam being announced next month.
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How would one modify the swaying weapon animation in Nobody Told Me About id so that, when you're moving and firing, the weapon stops swaying. It looks silly, like Doomguy is drunk and just killing demons. This mod is great otherwise. Fantastic actually.
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>>12184304
>Doomguy is drunk and just killing demons
redneck rampage
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For what it's worth, the 3DO port of Wolfenstein was my favorite version of the game. Sad to see Burger go like this.
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>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<

Record a UV-SPEED demo of NoSp 2 Map 01 "Crossroads" by NoReason (complevel 9)
Reply to this post with a demo & your time.

Wad download and current records:
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/nosp2?level=Map+01

Example demo in 4:11:
https://files.catbox.moe/ukaa59.lmp

Previous thread WinRar: Chex Quest E1M3 EO-Max in 3:29 >>12178526

This map is pretty hard, but since this is UV-speed you can skip a lot of it. Sometimes I boot up these maps just to enjoy that sweet tracker music.
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What Doom mod has AK-47, or any other similar USSR made weapons in it? I don't think even Russian Overkill has that.
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>>12184336
I'd imagine one of the Realguns mods might have them, but be warned, those are ancient by now.
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>>12184336
There's a good result on the first page when I google "Doom Russian weapons mod."
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>>12184336
I think Aracnocide has some. Disaster Jester: Classified has an AK.
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>>12184342
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>source ports for Doom and Quake add loads of fancy video effects
>not a single solitary sausage for audio greater than stereo
Why is surround sound so ignored by source port devs?
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>>12183813
Eh, I always preferred Quake to Doom. I just feel it aged better.
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>>12184401
Why, anon. For the same reason you won't learn how to do it yourself! There's no real interest!
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>>12184336
Moon Man Doom has one.
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>>12184040
I'm happy for you, basement guy!
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>>12184295
literally me
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>>12184408
BASED Moon Man rememberer
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>How quake.exe got its TCP/IP stack
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>>12184454
nta but he's right. Duke has never been good, the enemies are shitty and only a few of the guns are any good. The interactivity novelty of build was (as always with build games) only really present in the first few maps before the game devolved into an inferior Doom clone.
I like Duke as a parody action hero character and the franchise had potential, but it never really worked out. Most of the games are fucking awful, with Duke 3D being the only one with any merit even if it has so many issues as I outlined above.
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>>12184464
You like men.
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>>12184467
MEN!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y_xFig_6vk
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>>12184464
>Doom clone
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>>12184110
Veteran videogame programmer back in the day. Most relevant to this thread is that he worked on console ports of Wolfenstein 3D and Doom, and also the game Killing Time and its new port, but he also did programming on the Bard's Tale series of CRPGs.
His last time was harsh, his spouse died not too long ago.

>>12184336
I think Golden Souls had an AK47, at least in the first one, and I have certainly seen many different takes on the AK47 and AKM, and the various AK74s.
I've also seen sprites for the SKS, PPSh-41, Tokarev pistol, AN94 Abakan, and also model rips of varying quality of most guns from the later COD WW2 games.
There's quite a lot of Russian steel out there for Doom if you actually go digging.
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>>12184336
Strange Aeons had a good one
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>>12184467
>>12184471
You know I'm right.
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>>12184538
You like men. I do not entertain the opinions of gays.
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>>12184538
I disagree. I think both the arsenal and the enemy roster are rock solid.
Now admittedly there's nothing really special about them either, maybe except for Duke's pistol being one of the best starting weapons out there, easily in the top three.
But sometimes just having a well rounded arsenal and monster roster is enough.
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>>12184542
>You like men
who doesn't?
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>>12184040
Happy for you, anon. Keep it up.
>>12184079
This sucks. rip
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>>12184040
>>12184050
I hope shit starts to work out for you bro.
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is there a command to remove corpses in quake? neither cl_gibfilter 1 nor cl_deadbodyfilter 2 seem to work, at least in fteqw
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>>12184040
>even some wigger that's squatting in a basement can get laid but not me
What am I doing wrong
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>>12184602
basement bro:
>brave and charismatic, gives no fucks, has peanut
you:
>a faggot
see the problem?
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>>12184226
>If you wish for non-restricted doom guides then re-upload them yourself. Don't tie them to an account of someone who's prone to switch promises in a jiffy.
Good idea: https://archive.org/details/001-hx-8-vp-w-6
>But then again, you're effectively toppling imgur/news-archive anon who's the current maintainer of the thing, so i'm not entirely sure which is worse.
Non-UK posters can still access imgur so the original link should still be posted.
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>Cloudflare outage
>Doomworld is down
>ZDoom Forums is still up
Checkmate, vanillafags
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>>12184602
Difference is Basement Anon has been persevering as best he can throughout some rough shit, you're just bitching about not getting laid in a thread about old ass FPS games.
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>>12184616
They've got their own brand of off and on bullshit.
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>>12184621
Works on my machine unironically
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>>12184040
>sump pump anon got a gf
naicu. I knew I was right to believe in you!
don't fuck it up
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>>12183737
that's a good choice for the post image.
anyway, judging by your first time, what's the scariest doom/quake map in your opinion?
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>>12184679
The Unholy Cathedral from Deus Vult II
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>>12184679
Mr. X from Scythe 2
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>>12184616
This is why I collect and archive mods and source ports, especially living in the shitty dystopia known as the UK. You never know when these idiots will pull the plug to even more of the internet, and I'll be wanting my Doom mods and wads to keep me company in the dark times.
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>>12184710
get the fuck out of there and move to the US man. we could use more white people with souls.
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>>12184185
Try setting movetype_override to 2.
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perused the local thrift store and noticed picrel
>Doom64 for $68
>Star Fox for $42
>Castlevania for $127
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>>12184717
That would involve leaving the people I care about, and depending on where I go it could even simply be a sidegrade.
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>>12184726
A rip off, but I somewhat understand. Even in that state they're basically collectors items now.
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>>12184107
Cancer is one of many ways people routinely die, and it gets a hugely disproportionate wave of indignation compared to others. It's the biggest "charity" illnesses (by the public, the researchers aren't charitable with it), and cancer patients get more sympathy than other illnesses which are correlated with lifestyle choices. Moreover, it's not even the cancer that really sucks for the majority of cancer cases, it's the chemo and radiotherapy that fucking sucks. It's tantamount to having a burst aneurysm and then signing up for an experimental repair surgery that might leave you paralyzed and in pain, with a low chance of success, and you choose to roll those dice. Except with cancer it's the fucking defacto choice that you choose the treatment which you hope poisons you just slightly slower than it's poisoning the cancer.

Basically, if some old faggot dies of cancer in their 70s or 80s, they've no worse off than most of the other common morbidity such as pneumonia. If a kid dies of some rare brain cancer as a 10 year old, yeah it's fucking sad, but i'm not going to go along with this retarded notion that it's sadder than the 10 year old dying of meningitis.
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>>12184401
>surround sound
Are you referring to the game using positional sounds rendered into a 2-channel audio stream, or are you referring to the game outputting 5/7 audio channels?
If the former, i didn't realize the games didn't do this already.
If the latter, then it's mostly snake oil IMO.
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>>12184464
Duke 2 is a great platformer. I enjoyed duke 1 as a kid but it's too rough for me to go back to it now.
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>>12184538
>>12184545
One aspect i prefer about duke and quake over doom is the prolific use of explosives. Quake's gl and rockets are the "SSG" from doom2, and Duke's rpg, devastator, pipes and environmental shit-fucking-blows-up give me that seared bite.
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>>12183997
>The third TNT2
In human language we would call that TNT3.
>>12183864
>While arguable, "extremely low quality" are reportable and likely bannable.
It's not "arguable", using an *updated* version of the infograph link which restores proper order of infographs and *adds* new wads is by no means imaginable "extremely low quality" even if it has one lame write-up. Stop boot licking, this is pathetic and ridiculous.
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>>12184040
based. shine on you crazy doomer.
but showing your face is not doom, it's dumb
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Is there a doom equivalent to quaddicted? I.e. a (mostly) non-curated archive of all doom maps?
If not, has anybody bothered to mirror idgames and other wad archives, and provided an rsync/rclone endpoint, ftp, etc?
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>>12184782
How are Quake's rockets not Doom's rockets?
>>12184784
>It's not "arguable"
I'm talking about the deleted posts like these >>12169052 as well as what this guy tried to do >>12171824 all from this thread https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12168397
Those are the arguable/inarguable "low effort" posts that I'm talking about.
If you're raving about >>12168462 also getting deleted, it's been stated several times here how often the mods now go "scorched earth, fuck you" and will just delete all of your posts instead of just deleting the "offending" or reported ones.
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>>12184757
quality post
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I sometimes get the desire to post steam keys to my gzdoom game on here but i know you guys won't like it.
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>>12184726
Honestly not even expensive at this point
>>12184803
>I'm talking about the deleted posts like these >>12169052 as well as what this guy tried to do >>12171824 all from this thread https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12168397
>Those are the arguable/inarguable "low effort" posts that I'm talking about.
Damn I missed it completely. I'm betting it's the same asshole who's always stirring drama about the "megamanfaggot", these posts have the same vibe of "let's just throw a bunch of shit against the fan and see what happens". He's been loitering this thread with the literal definition of "extremely low quality" posts
>>12183746
>>12183789
>>12184073
but I guess not enough people have reported yet
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>>12184826
I'll give it a try if you promise that you gave it a try when you were making it
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>>12184826
You keep doing this shit, fuck off with the pity seeking crap.
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>>12184830
Keep?
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I'm rapidly beginning to understand why there aren't many magic themed weapon mods
Walpurgis clearly has a ton of care and love put into it, the effects are gorgeous, yet I can't help but feel like the way it handles its weapons and mana is uninspired. All the upgrades are "it goes a bit faster" or "it not eats a bit of mana but does explosions on basic attack"
like come on man you put all this effort and that's all you could come up with for the ugprades?
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>>12184837
You're playing a mod based on Hexen, of course it's not going to push the boat out that far.
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>>12184843
this is part of the issue as well
naturally most of the magic mods WOULD be based on hexen
thus perpetuating this type of design
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>megafaggot bake
seriously? nobody noticed?
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>>12184837
>>12184846
Go play Psychic or Guncaster or something if you want to be all "it's wizard time motherfuckers", and even then you've got to earn that shit.
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>>12184848
I noticed but i was hoping to have a normal thread anyway.
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>>12184857
he's gonna keep doing this quietly until it gets normalized, but personally i say he shouldn't be given an inch
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>>12184872
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpREErC897I
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>>12184858
This, unfortunately speaking from experience you can't afford to give up any ground against shitters like megafag who try to vandalize or hijack the OP.
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>>12184784
>TNT3
Not really. There are three TNT2s. Revilution, Devilution and Exolution. All of them are off-shoots of same project that started on 2009 and splintered into 3 different projects.
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>>12184848
>>12184858
>>12184880
You already noticed, spammer.
Your posts are quoted above >>12184827 and as was noted they qualify as extremely low quality.
And no, there's nothing sneaky about posting the new version of the infograph that was publicly made and discussed with multiple people saying they will be using this new version. In fact most threads using the old version have at least one person pointing it out.
Somebody explains this every time you start throwing a fit but of course you were never willing to reason.

>>12184837
Magic just doesn't feel right. Heretic may be a good game but the magic aspect of it just doesn't hit the same as actual weapons in doom.
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>>12184827
>Damn I missed it completely.
I even mentioned the Doomworld pic spam in my previous post up above. You took no time to either look into or at least ask me about what I was referring to, assuming poorly and going "full v9 defense mode". Quit goofin'.
>>12184837
I've seen lots of interest towards "weapon combos" but that's never made more sense to me than pulling it off as a spellcaster. Even on the most basic idea of "elemental magic" you could pull some sort of water blast quickly into a lightning attack. Even Bioshock had that at some basic level.
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>>12184826
maybe tell something, anything about the game first?
>>12184880
don't "this" your own post, shitter.
> speaking from experience
experience of shitting up thousands of threads over more than a decade? yeah I bet
> you can't afford to give up any ground against shitters
correct. that's why so many people have decided to report your massive shitposting and continue to develop doom related content such as new or updated infographs.
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>>12184886
please kys you pot stirring kyke faggot. megaman will never be doomgen canon
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>>12184757
>>12184813
People beat cancer all the time, you retarded faggots. No shit it often doesn't make a huge difference for someone who's already fucking elderly, but it's not just the elderly who suffer it, and even people who are in their 60s wouldn't mind living a bit longer than just a couple of years.
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>>12184679
honestly when playing on UV-fast with pistol start and no saves even regular doom 1 maps are scary as fuck, especially the dark parts
>>12184880
>megafag who try to vandalize or hijack the OP.
lmao.
hey guys STOP VANDALIZING THE OP BY CONTRIBUTING TO IT!
Wtf??? is somebody making a new duke project? STOP VANDALIZING DUKE! MOOOOOODS!
>>12184898
>Racism outside of /b/
he's getting more desperate by the hour.
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Thread's down the shitter, time to play some Doom instead.
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>>12184897
It's an RPG style
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>>12184928
oh yeah nah. also if you're new to this I would advise you start with more classic wads/maps
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>>12184925
I'm still having a great time in Ashes.
If I have one major criticism it's not knowing where the fuck to go. I don't want the game holding my hand, but the world design should at least highlight areas of interest or key areas in a subtle way.
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>tfw gotta fully beat blood and hotpotato, and then submortem before December because it's xmas season which means playing snowy games
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>>12184935
Noted
Yellow paint and Sandy arrows next installment
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>>12184910
>le heckin racism
Not helping yourself. By the way, why do you fuck off for weeks at a time and then one day wake up and decide to start being a complete fucking faggot out of nowhere? Are you skipping your SSRIs or something? Think about the collective amount of time you've wasted trying to meme a dead mod into an infograph nobody reads. Jesus dude.
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>>12184931
It's not Skyrim style. It's more like Fallout style but with more focus on combat.
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Btw are there any snowy retro FPS aside from that one doom wad that weighs like 2 GB?
>>12184942
Hm, kinda got me intrigued ngl. Also I'd love to play something like Orcs and Elves but designed fully for PC. I remember that game being based
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>>12184947
>Hm, kinda got me intrigued ngl.
I guess I can give you a key if you give me a throwaway email or whatever to give you a key if you want. I don't want to post it here because it will be gobbled up by bots.
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>>12184947
>aside from that one doom wad that weighs like 2 GB?
Winter's Fury.
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>>12184950
thank you, keep forgetting it
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>>12184938
Sub Mortem is really short, so that should be easy to achieve.

That said, I should look at doing that co-op fix experiment for Sub Mortem, I'll start with doing just a test on Whine Cellar. If I do, any people here willing to do a quick multiplayer co-op test to make sure it works?
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>Winter's Fury is 10 years old today!
>>Posted December 6, 2022
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>>12184949
gxkvtufcrzstyfwgrl@enotj.com
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>>12184981
>>12184949
hope I won't have to press 10 more minutes until midnight while I'm waiting lol
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>>12184925
I'm updating Pvt. Stone and doing all my usual shit, complete with changelog this time. Also Stone is apparently 5'2 and I was way the fuck off with how huge I made her before.
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>>12184981
How long will this email be around? It takes about a day for a Steam key to be accepted by valve
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>>12184991
10 min unless I press 10 more minutes. but dont you just need to send the key and I need to enter it? or is there something else that needs to be done?
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>>12184998
The key has to be approved by Valve first before I can send them out. They should approve and it takes around a day for them to do so.
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>>12185003
well I can give you some new email tomorrow then
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>>12185006
How will I know it's you then?
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you know what would be funny, if you guys exchanged emails and then met up IRL and touched tips lol
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>>12184939
I'm sure there are better ways.
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nuDoom better.
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>>12185034
It's neither better or worse. Just a different flavor.
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>>12184285
>Can't wait for another dead tranny mapjam being announced next month.
Might even be sooner than that.
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>>12184769
>Are you referring to the game using positional sounds rendered into a 2-channel audio stream, or are you referring to the game outputting 5/7 audio channels?
Only the latter is surround sound, the former is positional audio.
>snake oil
It's very well established for cinemas etc, it's just gaming that makes it seem shit because it never took off as an engine (other than Source) or hardware feature so most surround offerings today are faking it. And EAX died.
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>>12185058
soon enough we will reach dead tranny critical mass and every doomworld mapjam will be for some 41%er or other
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>>12185058
I'm sad for Bill's passing too, but what fucking bearing did he have on the Quake scene? If you wanna honor his memory with levels, make a mapset for the 3DO version of Wolfenstein 3D, or optionally some other more helpful and accessible PC counterpart but dressed up to properly look that part.
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>>12184050
is that your GF? she looks kinda weird
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>>12184185
kino
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>>12185081
Paul Jaquays was apparently active in the 'old Map Center' (which I've literally never heard of until this Discord server started doing Quake 2 Remaster jams) so now Sprony has a totally not gay obsession with both of them and can't help but give them a firm jelq every time they're mentioned.
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is it safe to rename the pk3s of my gameplay mods? i want to categorize them or add hints on their theming so i can remember, so it's either filenames or folders
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>>12185012
I guess I could get a tripcode but I dont know how
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>>12185059
>It's very well established for cinemas etc
Because speaker placement and room geometry are important factors, and if you're using headphones or a standard 2/2.1 PC speaker system, it's either doing nothing or adding distortion.
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>>12185097
Yeah it's fine, minus the extremely rare case of a pk3 loading other stuff from the same folder but nobody uses that shit.
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Replaying the recent Heretic release, this time with enhancements off. I have played the original (beaten on zdoom at least, never really played the dos version more than fucking around on level 1).
Playing the two versions relatively close to each other does make me wonder if people who comment or review these even play them or just parrot talking points. The original weapon balancing doesn't feel slow or tedious. The original stages are actually more readable. The original game is designed to have a comfortable amount of ammo and weapon pickups. There isn't enough ammo on the "enhanced" layouts so you have to spend most of the first stages of an episode meleeing and forcing infights. This all of course is fine, the enhanced versions are much harder and that makes for a fun challenge, but it really is a romhack/remake masquerading as the original game. It is drastically different. They should have had the original game as the basic and "enhanced" options as just that, it is kind of insulting to the original game that is the other way around. What should be a fun romhack challege mode is now presented as the "definitive" Heretic experience.
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>>12185102
Bro it's easy as fuck
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>>12185107
Ego wouldn't let them do that, I just don't think Xaser knows as much about Heretic's maps as he likes to think he does, some of them just flow worse or put shit in front of monster emplacement windows so it's annoying to try to even hit them.
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>>12184050
What if DOOM... had lyrics?
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>>12185123
>ayo, real quick...
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>>12185123
Bobby Prince would have probably been screwed.
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>>12185117
Yeah, the ego leaps right out of the game and is what really bugs me about it. If they did this with Doom and said "we know better than the original map designers" people would rightfully shit on them, but because it is Heretic, many are just ok with it or even worse "it sucked anyway". Ridiculous.
Maybe I'll forgive them, or at least overlook it, if they can get the rights to Portal of Praevus.
Though I didn't talk about the Hexen 1 release, which is basically "Brutal Hexen" masquerading as the real game.
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>>12185152
They've done the "we know better" stuff before, mostly with the System Shock remake but not to this level on the original games themselves. Probably going to see more going forwards.
>Though I didn't talk about the Hexen 1 release, which is basically "Brutal Hexen" masquerading as the real game.
The piss poor attempt at rebalancing the weapons in that shit is hilarious, especially since half of the recent update is a response to people calling them out on buffing the shit out of the Cleric while nerfing the Mage and just flat out ignoring the Fighter.
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>>12185109
test
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icles
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i keep looking at Schism
thinking "this is really cool why did i never get into this"
then playing it for like 20 minutes, fucking around with the Sorcerer, and putting it down again
a lot of effort went into the Sorcerer's spells but besides than it's pretty halfbaked
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>>12185107
everyone posting opinions about retro fps on the internet is an npc parroting his favorite youtuber's takes yw
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>>12185097
Yeah, I group up some of mine by author if I have a few by the same person.
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>>12185109

test 2
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>>12185109
yasss I did it.
Tomorrow I'll give you my new email but desu it may take time till I finish it fully
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>>12184975
>If I do, any people here willing to do a quick multiplayer co-op test to make sure it works?
if it's not too much of an ass-hustle to set up and depending on time obv
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>>12184975
You can just noclip back out to test in SP
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>>12185107
When they get to Hexen 2 it would be nice if they balanced the classes and made Assassin's stealth abilities actually useful
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>excited to play a mapset
>try to find suitable gameplay mod and enemy mod to go with it
>keep replaying the first 1-2 levels testing shit
>by the time you find your combination, you no longer want to play the mapset
killing myself TODAY
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>>12184989
She's as wide as she is tall.
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>>12184989
>Also Stone is apparently 5'2 and I was way the fuck off with how huge I made her before.
Pint-sized powerhouse.



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