Despite the fact that these games were presented as western/american games for international market (judging by the language, voice acting, character appearance, cultural setting). When I was little I had no idea that these were japanese games (until I saw the credits), but during the gameplay I noticed several details that indicated the fact that the game was made by non-westerners. The music had a completely different mood (rather adventurous or abstract, less percussive and stereotypical) from what I'd expect from typical western horror movie/videogame music that relies on tension and thrill, the art style is rather surreal (looks rather colorful and bright compared instead dark and gruesome or it's beyond otherwordly/psychedelic for western standards), while most american games are sort of "finish and forget" and shallow japanese games offer extra modes, replayability, unlockable items, plot branches/alternate scenarios. Japanese perception of the West quite differs from reality especially when they portray western characters, create the models/locations based on what they saw in the movies, when they write these awkward dialogues with out of place expressions which shows that japanese companies have a completely different approach to making videogames.
The fact that they have good gameplay is a dead giveaway.
>>12184420Japanese games always wanted to tell more serious stories than other countries, but they were stymied by the language barrier and fell into becoming "narm"
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>>12185613Gameplay? In Silent Hill?
>>12184420it ripped off a french game retardo
>>12185613>the fact that they had good gameplay>when more western games had better gameplay more oftenCringe.
>>12184420The music in RE1 is straight out of the 1990 NOTLD remake.
>>12184420Characters are overly polite when we all know how Americans are really like
>>12185613>good gameplay>silent hill anythingCome on now
>>12185963>we all know how Americans are really likeThey're overly polite irl you douchebag, the absolute friendliest people in the world.t. Aussie
>>12184420I never played SH and didn't play RE1 until last year, but yeah, it's absolutely Japanese /vr/ SOVL-coded.
One thing both of these games have in common is terrible voice acting. As if their scripts were written by people who had a poor understanding of English letting the world know how typical horror dialog sounded to them.RE 1: other than the tropes such as Jill and Rebecca being prodigies and the ostentatious uniforms, no. It was like the game's script and screenplay were done by westaboos.SH: other than Cheryl/Alessa looking asian, no.
They’re both far less antagonistic towards the player than western adventure games.
>>12185963>when we all know how Americans are really likeHELLO SARRRR, DID YOU DO THE NEEDFUL TODAY?
>>12186349Well neither of them are adventure games, they're survival horror games. Secondly, LucasArts games are less antagonistic than either of them as well...so...Not sure what kind of raw stupidity I stumbled upon here.
>>12184420>the art style is rather surreal (looks rather colorful and bright compared instead dark and gruesome or it's beyond otherwordly/psychedelic for western standards)....You're saying this about Silent Hill and Resident Evil....They are bright and colorful compared to Western games? What are you, fucking retarded?>while most american games are sort of "finish and forget" and shallow japanese games offer extra modes, replayability, unlockable items, plot branches/alternate scenariosWestern games, especially the retro ones, are built almost completely around branching paths and replayability, while the Japanese focused very tightly on plot/story adherence. It is literally what they are known for. The genre of roguelikes was invented, defined, and refined, entirely by the West. Western RPG's pride and built themselves on path variance and diverse gameplay styles for maximum replayability. The main complaint about Western games is that they are often too complex and bogged down by mechanics while Japanese games strive for simpler games with easier "playability" (in your words, more shallow).You have a really bizarre, borderline alien view of game design. It almost feels like this is a stealth weaboo thread, where you tacked on that minor criticism at the very end of your post to not sound so flagrantly biased.
>>12184420>Did these games feel like they were made in Japan when you first played them?Yes. >very linear design as opposed to the more adventurous open ended approach that was common in western games>boring zelda style baby puzzle where every item in your inventory needs to have a function>no fail state>obsession with time attack>boring premise and storyline (SH started off strong though, but that's about it) >nothing is truly cryptic>beyond shitty voice acting just like sega arcade slop>characters look like anigayI was only 12 or 13 when I first played them and easily figured out they were Japanese. Yeah in the 2000s I had nothing but a shitty dial up and mommy refused to buy me video games so I was accustomed to bite sized old western adventure classics such as Alone in the Dark, Zak McKracken, Indiana Jones, Castle Wolfenstein, Sid Meier's Pirates, Atari's Adventure, DragonStomper, Ultima 7, Sword of Fargoal, and the likes. I also had played a few Japanese games on NES and SNES emus prior to those, I was fascinated by Zelda and Dragon Quest derrivative games, but after learning to use DosBox and CCS64 I grew bored quite soon. Also I played few Namco and Sega arcade games in my town. It was very obvious to me RE and SH were japanese made.
>>12185716>>12186035Ok, what's wrong with Silent Hill's gameplay?
Silent Hill for sure. Dialogue is a dead giveaway.
>>12186897I don't know how you could choose Silent Hill with all the line deliveries in RE.I honestly find the voice acting in the Silent Hill games to be really decent, only brought down by a Japanese director which made conversations and such awkward
>>12186897>Silent Hill for sure. Dialogue is a dead giveaway.Haha yeah, they sound like they were made by that famous Japanese man David Lynch.
>>12186357That's a perfectly fine and grammatically correct English sentence, chud.
>>12186879It's boring and awkward. These games didn't get popular for the combat, and it's not very good in the "survival" aspect either.Still, I'd prefer to keep it like this myself if it meant having the game keep its slow-paced nature and not be an action game with i-frame rhythm dodging
>>12186879It's terribly unengaging. Controls are poor, camera view sucks, enemies are braindead, weapons have little variety, attacks have little to no impact and feedback, the mechanics are extremely one dimensional. Both Silent Hill and Resident Evil have terrible gameplay, but SH is the worse one. At least RE's weapons feel meaty.
>>12187018>Resident Evil have terrible gameplayI enjoy the survival and inventory management aspect of the RE games. that said, all that can be nullified by just reloading a save file and doing a part again but better
>>12187015>I'd prefer to keep it like this myself if it meant having the game keep its slow-paced nature and not be an action game with i-frame rhythm dodgingMedal of Honor and Duke Nukem Time to Kill are both fairly slow paced, but have enjoyable combat. MoH doesn't even have crosshair. SH simply has poorly conceived gameplay.
>>12187018>Both Silent Hill and Resident Evil have terrible gameplayLol retard
>>12187026yea but those games are action focused. i'd rather not feel powerful if a game is trying to scare me
>>12187025>all that can be nullified by just reloading a save file and doing a part again but betterYep. RE's linearity and lack of fail state really kills the sense of experimentation and tension. Alone in the Dark gives off the dread that you did something wrong or wasted your resources on useless shit an hour ago. Can't say so about any RE game. Hell I'd say games like Rogue or Nethack are much better resource management horror games than any retro "survival" horror game.
>>12187036They make you feel less powerful than the typical modern shooters out there. Your character isn't particularly agile or quick with his gun. Your only saving grace is having plenty of ammo and pick ups, which are necessary because you're fighting against enemies with guns, but these mechanics could be adopted by survival horror games well.
People still think gameplay = control and they're retards
>>12186357NTA but I bet he's Spanish-speaking, because that's how you would say it in Spanish, we use the equivalent of how instead of what. There are more nationalities than American and Indian.t. Spaniard
>>12187119Controls are part of gameplay, midwit.
>>12187240part of but not the entirety of it.
>>12184420At 14 I knew both Konami and Capcom were Japanese developers so yes
>>12187464>14>RE1MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>12187018Environments and atmosphere are part of the gameplay experience.
