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Screen Utility - https://shauninman.com/utils/screens/
Handheld Comparison - https://retrocatalog.com/
Google chart - https://tinyurl com (slash) AllHandhelds
has anyone asked my question before? - https://4search.neocities.org/vr
Compare handheld sizes - https://retrosizer.com/
Handy Handheld info - https://handhelds.wiki

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>>12181542
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loud buttons are a cancer that must be eradicated
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I love my RP5 and Ayn Thor!
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>>12190430
>>12190448
#facts
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>>12188892
as long as you use a USBA-USBC cable it does not matter which charger you use, the limit USB-A has by design is the limit that is safe for these devices. It is when you start using USB-C to USB-C that the higher voltage threshold becomes dangerous.
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>>12181750
>Saw muos devs throw bitchfits over latency concerns
You mean this?
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>>12190473
nta, its safe if I use a charger that pulls 30w from a USB a port or is that too much? Im not doing that, Im just curious.
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>>12190486
Do those exist?
I only use and have seen up to 5v-3amp and assumed USB-A would go up to 20watts tops...
Still from what I have researched, as long as you pull from USB-A you are ok. It is super high watts delivered by USB-C that do fry these quickly.

But yeah, anon was asking about a laptop port which is safe.

The USB A port that outputs 30w you talk about is it some sort of special custom hardware or is it common? Now I wonder..
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>>12190491
Some of the higher end wall adapters can do over 30w, for example this anker one does 33w via type A.
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>>12190498
You made me truly curious.
I had seen those Anker chargers and had dismissed them as a concern for some reason, but could not remember why.

Asked AI and got this:

No, regular USB-A cables and ports generally do not support 30 watts under standard USB specifications. The USB-A standard is limited in power output compared to the newer USB-C standard.
Standard USB-A Power Limits
Under official USB specifications, the maximum power output for USB-A ports and cables is typically much lower:
USB 2.0: Up to 2.5 watts (5V at 500mA).
USB 3.0/3.1: Up to 4.5 watts (5V at 900mA).
USB Battery Charging Spec: Up to 7.5 watts (5V at 1.5A).
Achieving Higher Wattage with USB-A (Proprietary)
Some manufacturers use proprietary fast-charging protocols, such as Qualcomm's Quick Charge (QC), to deliver higher power over a USB-A connection. These technologies communicate between the charger and the device to negotiate higher voltages (up to 20V) over the data pins, which allows for wattages such as 18W, 30W, or even higher, but this requires both the charger and the device to support that specific proprietary protocol.
So yeah, those exist but they are proprietary technology that needs a proprietary cable and device that is compatible with them.

The regular cables supplied by our handheld companies do not have the pins to negotiate that proprietary wattage. Even if you had the proprietary cable, I doubt the handhelds have that propietary technology in them when they dont even have proper chips to negotiate the right voltage from USB-C chargers.
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>>12190484
What the fuck lol, the latency must have struck a nerve
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>>12190508
I did some light google searching and that seems correct. So its not something to worry about for the average anon, as long as they're using a standard type A to C cable then.
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>>12190525
Yup. In theory the handhelds whould have a chip negotiating with the USB-C charger the limit of wattage, but they seem not to or get confused reading the battery charge (not even CFWs can properly read the battery level in these, because of the hardware limitations) so it is better to play safe, which is why they are shipped with USB-A to USB-C cables.
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>>12190484
Every time an open source program doesn't work:
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>>12190508
>>12190525
>>12190540
It's hard to believe it's something we need to worry about in 2025. I've charged my Android phone and various headphones from a 65W USB C Lenovo laptop charger for years without even thinking about this being an issue. Never noticed anything become hot, let alone bulging.
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>>12190498
my $7 aliexpress charger says it can do 120W
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>>12190568
If its not planned obsolescence and done to make people buy another chinkheld, then it's probably just a case where the manufacturers cut corners to keep costs low and make more profit.
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>>12190568
The cheap handhelds we are talking about are assembled with leftover chips that were meant for TV boxes and other devices that were not meant to be charged this way. These are cheap for a reason, they are not a 900USB mobile phone or apple headphones made with current day tech.

But yeah, I think they should not have used USB ports on these devices.. well thought... because the USB-C is so much easier to plug.
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>>12190572
Sounds like an easy way to enjoy a nice and cozy house fire.
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I don't want to talk about wires, I want to talk about handhelds. Piss off nameshit.
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>muh glass front meme
literally just stick a microfibre cloth in the case and wipe it when it gets smudgy, how are people this upset over a literal nothing problem



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