Now that the dust has settled, how much of a scam is it?
Shill thread, buy an ad.
the design is too soulless looks like an unpainted 3D print
its pretty capable but if youre some retro collector you probably already have a n64 with a flashcart hooked up to a scaler so im not sure you would ever want one unless youre some normie millennial thats too retarded to figure out how to hook it up a modern tv without destroying input latency and signal quality
It's not even translucent purple. I'll pass. Is it compatible with an Everdrive or the cheaper options? No point spending drifter prices on 30 year old games.
>>12201693not sure why you need an everdrive when this thing can load backups natively
>>12201682>modern tvdo fags really?
I just do not understand the value of FPGA systems. It'd be an entirely different story if they were less than $100, but for the price of any given one of these consoles you can buy the original system and get it HDMI modded and buy a flashcart to go with it. It'll do everything this thing does and be 100% compatible because it's the original hardware. There's things your N64 can do that this can't even if they're unimportant and nobody has done much testing of known problematic games so we don't even know how compatible it really is. Maybe this tech will matter more in 20 years when the original hardware may be harder to get ahold of in working condition but in the here and now this thing is entirely useless.
The reviews all say it's good, but it's not for me since I own an original and CRT. I don't have a horse in this race.
>>12201707i have a bunch of CRTs ive collected over the years but at the end of the day i dont wanna go over to my fucking autismo retro setup corner that exists somewhere else in the house just to play in the 1:1 retro experience. i wanna sit down on my expensive couch with my big ass OLED with a scaler with a nice sound setup and some wireless controllers.ya when you are some broke ass neet its fine to spend literally nothing on your retro setup but at the end of the day the quality of life gains outstrip some autistic purism
>>12201704The entire fucking gimmick of this thing is being able to use physical carts with it. If you're just going to download a bunch of ROMs, any sane person would just buy a MiSTer which has 100x the functionality for half the price.
>>12201821>be autistic about physical carts>just load your game from a SD card on you everdrive insteadif you really give this much of a fuck youll keep your GOAT game in the physical cart slot and whatever other games you have and have everything you dont on your sd cardi really dont see why people are chimping over everdrive support
>>12201704>when this thing can load backups nativelyIt doesn't yet, also the everdrive still offers things the anal log doesn't have like gameshark codes and being able to backup your memory cards.Still a moot point because all of the reviews pointed out that it's incompatible with everdrives, only the Summer Cart 64 works and even then it's extremely buggy as shit.
Anyone that has a collection of physical carts probably also has an N64 and a CRT, so I still don't understand who the market for this device is. Presumably, it improves performance, but from what I've read, the improvement is very minimal. If it were able to keep games like Perfect Dark at a steady 30 FPS, I'd probably pick one up.
>>12201682I'm still of the belief that a significant portion of their buyerbase are people who feel ashamed of having an actual old "children's toy" on display, so they want said children's toy repackaged to look like a modern luxury electronic.
given the amount of options this thing has under the hood i think its made for the people who are too lazy to find someone to do an HDMI for them and want more autistic granularity to their options before it hits their scaler. just being able to overclock the thing and run more demanding titles seems to be worth its entry price if you have unmodified n64
>>12201825You're either a retard or a paid shill doing damage control. I'm not the one who advertised something I'm selling as being a 100% fully accurate and compatible recreation of original hardware.>lol just get over it you fucking loser okay we falsely advertised our product so what get dunked on nerdIs not a valid response. It either is or is not an accurate recreation of N64 hardware. If it can't run all the same carts as an original N64, then it is not.>>12201863>>12201873There's already an overclocked N64 core for the MiSTer. You can play Perfect Dark at significantly above 30fps using it along with the PDHP-patched ROM. Or you know, just play the XBLA version or decomp if you're not worrying about authenticity anyway.
I’ll wait for the M64, thanks.
>>12202440What does the dial do?
>>12202458lmao it’s for controlling the menu because the N64 controllers are just SNAC and this is just a MiSTer box
>>12201651It's probably the cheapest (&best) option if you want to hook it up using HMDI.Having said that I think the system is pure garbage, but thats because 5th gen 3D is pure shit by design. 3D became good starting with the dreamcast, everything else is pure cope
>>12201651>>12202440I got the original N64 with a Kaico HDMI converter and an MClassic. I'm good.
>>12201817Hello analogue employee!
>>12201821>any sane person would just buy a MiSTerNo, sane people use their PC or laptop and just load an emulator (which A3D and Mister are — emulators). Original hardware is 100% novelty.
what's the point of a fpga system with a single core? it's like getting a pc that can only run a program
>>12201651It sucks because it has limited compatibility with romhacks.
>>12203305I mean the original N64 was a computer that could only run a single system
>>12203295Mostly this. I prefer emulating NES games to a CRT than the real thing because the old controllers aren't very comfortable and I like being able to swap games in an instant and have them boot up the first time without engaging in cartridge slot voodoo for 20 minutes.
>>12203305>Whats the point of a dedicated system when you can have a jack of all tradesGee anon, I wonder
>>12203682>wasRIP :(
>>12203950you could bend the contacts back into place, or replace the whole connector and you'd be set. Get a flash cart and it will never be a problem again.
>>12201651It's a $300 machine that basically plays 10 good games, but it's by far the best way to play those games. At least until the M64 comes out. The built-in shaders are great, and will probably get even better with future firmware updates. I had an Analogue Pocket on day one too, and the people who got one a year later had a much better experience quite frankly.
>>12204427>but it's by far the best way to play those games.No, a real N64 is the best way to play those games.
>>12204436Arguable, the enhanced framerates without breaking games is arguably better than original hardwareAt the moment though the Analogue has a few too many issues
>>12204436A real one AND a big tube TV, but I don't really have room for that. I got myself a small Toshiba AF recently, and I'm probably not even going to bother with it now. This is less hassle.
>incompatible with Everdrivesbut my original N64 is compatible... so why would I... idk this is a weird fucking product
>>12204456That's already being resolved. https://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=13718.0
>>12204463FAKE NEWS
>>12204467Krikzz is pretty good with that shitHe got Paprium up and running pretty quick after the dump
>>12201651Yes it's a scam. No, I won't buy one.
>>12201651>>12205949Yes it’s a scam. Yes, I bought one.
>>12201707Oh you still want to use a 100lb TV that's only 32"?
>>12204427>It's a $300 machine that basically plays 10 good gamesSo it's faithful to the real N64
Muh dust. Fuck off.
>>12207924Yes
Might as well buy a chink clone Mister FPGA from AliExpress than this crap.
I just sold my UltraHDMI n64 because N64 sucks in HD. I have a much better experience on my OLED just using S-Video conversion. The N64 is not supposed to be deblurred and "upscaled." (I know all TVs upscale automatically, I mean like, with a secondary processing scaler)
>buying emulatorswhy the fuck does this keep happening
>>12204427>High end surround sound system>Set to stereoWhat the fuck
>>12201651Two copies of golden eye? Something seems fishy here.
>>12208345It's an FPGA so it emulates the hardware instead of the software!
>>12205961Did you buy the super sega fpga too?
>>12208353it's called a render
>>12208352The N64 only has stereo sound.
>>12208357No it doesn't. It emulates using higher level emulation techniques, there is no "hardware emulation" of a N64. This is different to using FPGAs for fourth gen and below, if they're done properly they should be and are indistinguishable from real hardware. The fact that you put real cartridges in it tells you this thing is for retards. There is no valid reason for doing that. I guess technically you could claim yes it's emulation but there's no lags to the emulation, whatever.
>>122084432/2 so I'm reading about it and they're claiming it's actually the real deal, as in circuit by circuit replication at the hardware level. This was thought impossible or impractical for decades due to the asynchronous behaviour of N64 cpus and the intrinsically different way they are compared to SNES and earlier. I would have thought there'd be a lot more about it if they actually achieved the holy grail. Can anyone verify if this is completely the exact same or is it all bullshit.
>>12208443>>12208461>all that complete bullshit>Can anyone verify if this is completely the exact same or is it all bullshit.Can confirm your shitposts are completely bullshit
>>12208461I assume it’s a lot easier to do with FPGA than software emulationAs long as the chip is capable of replicating it
>>12208520Also I’d say it’s FPGA is better referred to as replication rather than hardware emulation
>>12208523More like imitation.
>>12204427Can you please name those 10 good gamesPretty sure it's more like 4 or 5
>>12208606Nah, replication is a better termImitation has a negative connotation for no reason
>>12203305I like the idea of buying a new old console. Like maybe I want a retro console sitting on my desk, but not a dirty old piece of shit. That plus modern HDMI outputs is a huge plus.
>>12203323It sucks really because the N64 has no games. I will never understand the appeal of this system. It really all is nostalgia from people who owned it, isn't it? So many of the games have a multiplayer focus too, who are you even going to play with? It's silly.
>>12208789>I don’t like the games therefore it’s badOk lil fella
>>12208810not her but it's true N64s library is shit. i fell for the og 3d meme and got a N64 with an everdrive and a wireless controller. i was ready to enjoy that shit but there was literally nothing to play except mario kart 64, mario 64, ocarina and a handful of racing games. seriously this system is severely lacking and fuck you for pretending that it's not
>>12208815Look mate, you just don’t like the games, that’s fine, I’m sure you can go play JRPGs on the PS1
>>12208789it's a very specific sort of nostalgia too, people think they miss the games but what they miss is being with their friends at the time
>>12208920What is with this projectionI didn’t realise Nintendo derangement syndrome infected this board too
>>12208789It's probably the most nostalgia driven console for Americans. It's not popular for a reason, and I can't even count the number of times I've seen the story of people getting into retro games and immediately falling out of it because they picked up an n64 and mario kart or goldeneye.
>>12208304Isn’t this better than the Mister? 32 bit color and unleashed overclocking
>>12208360I preordered it but meh. Trying to get back my preorder from Mars now.
>>12208610Super Mario 64Mario Party 1Mario Party 2Mario Party 3Mario Kart 64Mario GolfMario TennisPaper Mario Dr Mario 64Yoshi’s Story
>>122092374K as well which makes the CRT display modes much nicer looking
>>12209425The Modretro M64 is gonna mog it though.
>>12201651It’s the gift that keeps on giving— I bought one and just sold it on auction for double the price. Love Analogue!
>>12209243do tendies really
>>12209442Maybe. I'm interested in what I've heard about it being open to other cores being ported to it.
>>12209449Even the Chromatic supported other cores, but the specialised display made it basically pointless. I think the M64 could become a MiSTer successor if it has as big of an FPGA as is rumoured.
>>12208789Bangai-O and Sin and Punishment are both great. F-Zero X and Star Fox 64 deserve some attention as well. The AKI wrestling games, the Nushi Tsuri games, and Shigesato Itoi no Bass Tsuri No. 1 are all niche titles of personal interest. But that's about it. I like Nintendo a fair bit, but the N64 is a uniquely bad console.
>>12208928>It's not popular for a reasonHe said in a thread about one of two FPGA recreations of it coming out at the same time, both of which will sell out in minutes.
>>12208631You can't say its replication though because it's not exact. It IS an imitation because they are guessing on some things which is why you still have compatibility issues.
>>12209584I don’t know why people try to make up convoluted terms, is it just to justify the difference between FPGA and emulators? FPGA systems are hardware emulation, emulators are software emulation… FPGA can have bugs, but when it works, the benefit is simply that there’s no software/OS layer between the emulation and the I/O, so there’s minimal lag compared to real hardware. No need to dance around by saying it’s “imitation” or “replication”. It’s hardware emulation.
>>12201651>how much of a scam is it?>scam is it?>scamwhat scam? it does what it says. do you know what scam is?
>>12210908>zero emulationfpga is emulation>100% compatibilitySin & Punishment is broken>no timing issuesruns at 60Hz so cycle accuracy is broken>dualband WiFidisabled>no input lagpeople have been complaining about input lag with the same controllers that worked fine on PC and MiSter
>>12204427>100cc>2nd placeSo this is the kind of retard buying this garbage.
>>12204427Can you take some closeup macros photos of the CRT shader? I’m curious what it looks like compared to my RT4K.
>>12209446It's a strange list, and not the best on the N64, but I'd say all of those games overall are "good", with the exception of Mario Party 1 and maybe Yoshi's Story.
>>12209538In America, yes.
>>12211021Yoshi’s Story is a classic, what are you on about?
>>12210957The My Life in Gaming review gets into the weeds on that. https://youtu.be/wyIDr_PDIbI?si=zz5Go12n4HM6AZiV&t=560
>>12211067>Yoshi’s Story is a classicIt has a 65 on Metacritic. Regardless of what you think of it, the majority of people don't like it all that much - myself included. That said, I don't hate the game and could see why someone might like it; it's just not for me.
>>12210908>that kid who just discovered the memeternet
>>12201651The N64? A complete rip, I'm glad more people are finally opening their eyes to it
>>12210957>>12211072There are dozens of potential permutations, but here's PWM mode with Integer+ scaling, professional horz/vert convergence on my A75L.
>>12212787Thanks, it seems like it’s mostly using a mono mask, isn’t it? With a bit of red and blue convergence shift on the upper left and lower right sides even with “professional” convergence settings, if I’m looking at it correctly.
>>12207924No I want it heavier
>>12212883There are also "consumer" and "off" settings on the convergence shift, so you can have more or less shift than shown if you want.
>>12201651Why limit yourself to the n64's shit library. Just get a Mr. Even better just emulate
>>12209443I do this with Shantae LRG releases, never fails.
>>12212948Can you take one with convergence “off”? I like the look of it, though I’m curious to see the masks’s look without. Here’s what my Retrotink 4K setting looks like for comparison.
>>12212948>>12213016The last one had horizontal kerneling set to “soft”, this is “sharp”. Probably closer to your PVM setting.
>>12212953more like mr do
>>12212787>>12213023One more, sorry. I realised I still had IIR blur on, so I turned it off too. This one is horizontal sharp, no IIR blur (which the others still had). I’m also using a 720TVL PVM mask, so quite similar to yours.
>>12201651>how much of a scam is it?the pretendo 69? biggest scam of the 90s if you ask me pham
