The respawning enemies and level design really kill this game, even though I really wanted to see more (the opening cutscene and bayou are amazing setup just like I remember, and then you meet Jaunty and then you think you're going to have an amazing time), I had to refund it. "Asshole of the universe" indeed.
You got filtered. It's a amazing game. Enemies only respawn on level change.
>>12208030This is a game with backtracking so level changes are invariably going to happen. It's made worse when you want to talk to Nettie and Jaunty to hear some flavor dialogue.
>>12208016>The respawning enemies and level design really kill this game,I mean, why the fuck would they not respawn?
>>12208070There's no benefit to them respawning like in SOTN or Dark Souls.
Here's an example of why it sucks: Early on, you can make a shortcut bridge rope from Jaunty. Convenient right?Except the shitty little zombies have a ranged attack that will knock you off the bridge rope.If the enemies stayed dead, this wouldn't be a problem.
>>12208016Skill issue
>>12208016>>12208035Enemies only respawn when you leave an area, and you have a weapon with infinite ammo as well. It's really not that big of an issue.>>12208096...?You can kill them though...What the fuck are you talking about?
>>12208123Cope issue>>12208126>You can kill them thoughHammering RT to deal with some basic bitch zombies (that I already dealt with) isn't fun.
>>12208130Faggot issue
>>12208130Mmmm, right, but I'm sure the respawning enemies in Ocarina of Time were GENIUS though, right?
>>12208073>There's no benefit to them respawning like in SOTN or Dark SoulsI've noticed for many many years that anyone talking about "level design" is 95% likely to be an idiot.
>>12208161The combat isn't good or fun if you're trying to argue something.
>>12208163I'm not in any way trying to argue with you. I'm not even talking to you.
>respawning enemiesWhere do you think the enemies go to when you kill them in the realm of the DEAD?
>>12208263They need to go to hell.
>>12208073There actually is a benefit to them respawning, since they drop health, you living turd wallet.
>>12208705>Implying enemies do enough damage
>>12208707You obviously haven't gotten very far.
>>12208712>>12208714Yeah I refunded it like I said.https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/shadow-man-review/1900-2532968/Also pretending Shadowman is a classic when this was one of its reviews on release.
>>12208716>Letting you reenter and further explore previously visited areas is a proven play mechanic of the genre. Shadow Man adopts this system then manages to screw it up by populating each level with a large number of enemies that are neither challenging nor fun to fight.>The best that can be said about the battles is that they certainly are time consuming. Enemies lumber towards you or stand in place and shoot. Worse yet, all the enemies respawn (in exactly the same place) every time you enter a level, a huge discouragement to the sense of exploration the game should be working to promote.What the fuck lol that's LITERALLY MY CRITIQUE AND ITS STILL FUCKING TRUE
>>12208716And a review like this.
>>12208723Gamepro are known glazers of shitty games. Before Kane & Lynch, Gamespot was pretty much always on point.
>>12208716>pretending Shadowman Stop making strawmen in your head, schizo.>when this was one of its reviews on release.When else would it be reviewed, dumbshit? I can post reviews too:https://www.ign.com/articles/1999/12/07/shadow-man-review>>12208718>>The best that can be said about the battles is that they certainly are time consuming. Enemies lumber towards you or stand in place and shoot. Worse yet, all the enemies respawn (in exactly the same place) every time you enter a level, a huge discouragement to the sense of exploration the game should be working to promote.And much like you, he didn't play very far, since the more dark souls you get in the game, the spawns for deadside change.
>>12208727You can't spell IGN without ignorant and that still seems true here.
>>12208724>gamepro are known glazers>he says, without the sheerest bit of irony, since Jeff Gerstmann was fired for giving a game a bad reviewLaughable. You have autism or something man?
>>12208732Gamespot's standards dipped but we're talking about a game from 2007. They had an amazing run from 1996-2007, which I could never say the same about most magazines or websites. Seriously, name one shitty game Gamespot glazed during that era.
>>12208735Yea dude, your special snowflake review totally vindicates your opinion, just as our reviews vindicate ours.>They had an amazing run from 1996-2007Yea man, they totally gave out reviews like no ones biz-nazz! They fucked shit up in the bizzatch! Wurd up! They were real OG's, naw-mean?
>>12208737Bro you brought up GamePro who would glaze some of the shittiest NES games just because they were invited to events and were sent early copies. If you saw these faces, you knew you were in for a worthless review.
>>12208718It's a game with a lot of revisiting areas, how fun would it be if the back half of the game was just you running around empty levels? Your issue isn't the respawning enemies anyway, if >>12208168is you. You don't like the combat in the first place, so just stop playing it? You get stronger but the combat's not going to change. Go play something you like.
Wow, another complete useless garbage thread from a zoomer shitstain with no serious opinions. Wow. Wow.
>>12208016>respawning enemiesDisgusting
>>12208748>how fun would it be if the back half of the game was just you running around empty levels?Somebody said new enemies in the old areas get introduced. Why not keep the areas empty until the new enemies?>You don't like the combat in the first place, so just stop playing it?I was willing to put up with the bad combat for the story, but the respawning enemies really fucking sucks, and rerelease allows you to savescum, which I did just so I could talk to Nettie and Jaunty so the enemies wouldn't respawn, which reeks of bad design.
>>12208139What are you talking about? There were plenty of enemies that didn't respawn in OoT, you moron.
This is easily solved by having the enemies respawn on a fixed timer rather than when you enter the level>Kill enemy>Leave level and come back>Enemy is still dead and won't respawn for another 20 seconds
>>12208016Kill yourself, this is a fucking incredible game, still nothing else like it.
op is a worthless faggot zoomoid, as usual
OP played like an hour of this game and got filtered lmao. Respawning enemies is such a non issue. Once you've gone through a level you know where to go, just run past them faggot, it's not hard. Not only that but enemies get replaced and shuffled around later but again your secondary ass wouldn't know about it.
>>12209390>>12209396>>12209401Just because old, doesn’t mean gold.
nigga livin in the shadows
Is shadowman 2 good
>>12210000It is gold. It maintained a hardcore cult following for like 20 years for a reason and that's why it got a remake, probably the best remake I've ever seen actually. Anyway, kill yourself.>>12210165No. Shadow Man is incredibly unique, being a horror Zelda Metroidvania mashup. 2 has none of its soul. There's a few decent levels here and there but I wouldn't really recommend it unless you're super into the IP and very curious about it. The best thing to come out of 2 was the ridiculous marketing campaign acclaim did with the tombstones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zEgXM8ze-0>bosses have death themesgot to be one of the coolest tropes ever. fuck me, this game is cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjengiGTvXAKINO
>>12210176>It is gold. It maintained a hardcore cult following for like 20 years for a reasonBecause it was blasted onto every console they could get it on. So you either rented it or owned it on something.
>>12208740>Bro you brought up GamePro I didn't.>who would glaze some of the shittiest NES gamesStop talking like a faggot.>just because they were invited to events and were sent early copiesSays the guy who posted Gamespot, which was giving games good reviews for years for companies that paid for their advertising.>If you saw these faces, you knew you were in for a worthless review.Here's a novel idea, try thinking for yourself.
>>12210176It got remastered, not a remake. But it is good. Some of the areas I wish weren't so labyrinthine though.
oh god I love shadowman
>>12208016Acclaim made non garbage games?
>>12208016I didnt play this game back then cause the guy is black
>>12210884did you play it now
>>12210885no
>>12210895FUCK
>>12210267>Because it was blasted onto every console they could get it on. So you either rented it or owned it on something.Yeah, because a generic multiplat would develop a hardcore following and people would keep talking about loving it for multiple decades to show there's enough interest for a remaster. Fucking retard.>>12210489You're right, it's damn extensive since they actually added entire cut levels, the option for Dreamcast water and both old and higher res textures, enhanced the controls, the original composer came back to do more music (he himself is a huge fan of the game) etc. Definitely nightdive's best work. Also I think it's fine for some of the areas to be like that since once you go through them you basically know what to do after. From a thematic point of view they fit since all of Deadside feels surreal, otherworldly and hostile.
>level designnigger if you can't even appreciate the based levels in this you're not qualified to talk about anything lmao
>>12208139Ocarina of Time doesn't have clunky controls and the respawning enemies are typically either passive enemies or conditional spawns. I also don't remember anything like hitscanners or getting machinegunned like a shmup in OoT.Same mechanic, different execution.
>>12208139>not even 20 posts in>some faggot already seething about Nintendo out of nowhere
I want to play this but unsure of which version to play? I would assume its better on Dreamcast but I've heard several people tell me its actually better on N64. Not interested in fucking around a bunch to get the old PC version up and running but from what I gather its the same as Dreamcast and I don't want my first experience to be the remaster either. Don't know enough about the game to decide which one to go with so some pros and cons would be nice.
>>12208737embarrassing sperg out
>>12211221>better on N64Smells like Tendie bullshit
>>12211221N64 version is only good if you have the controller because the analog stick is actually quite good when the rubberband doesn't wear out. I never played the emulator but if you don't use a controller for the emulator you will be in for a bad time from clunky controls.
>>12211231From what I understand it's the original version of the game they were making first so I could see it maybe being the more pure experience. Go off on your tendie tyrade though.
>>12211221I would like to know this as well. I never had much interest in this game but this thread has kinda inspired me to give it a shot. I’m leaning towards the PS1 version since that’s the easiest to emulate.
Now I can't unsee it this is Zack from doa so shadowan wuz a spin off all along
>>12211362>I’m leaning towards the PS1 version since that’s the easiest to emulate.That one is the worst, by far.Just pirate the remaster, it has everything.
>>12211221>>12211362Dreamcast. I don’t even know why you’d touch the N64 port. And DONT even think about playing the PS1 port. It’s the worst one.
>>12211429https://youtu.be/uVN6X8fIHdE?si=ZY5vIv3mvsHpIrecidk sounds like the Dreamcast port isn't exactly great, and the N64 version actually looks pretty nice in some cases. Maybe I'll just play both.
>>12211421>>12211429>worst one What’s so bad about it?
>>12211470It runs at, not exaggerating, 10FPS and even dips from that, has significantly worse visuals. The main character doesn't even have his iconic glasses because they couldn't figure it out.
>>12211504Goddamn lmao, alright fair enough Might give me a good reason to boot up my Dreamcast again. I still need to confirm if I have the kind that’ll run pirated games or not.
>>12211457There's no reason not to play the remaster. It just finishes the game and even has the option to turn off a bunch of the remaster stuff. The original game is literally unfinished to the point where some of the bosses were forced to share levels.
>>12211843You can't appreciate the good changes or know if there are any bad changes in a remake or remaster if you never played the original. I always play the original first unless its very specifically something like an ancient PC game that's too much of a pain in the ass to get working correctly.
>>12211873>You can't appreciate the good changesI think you'd be able to appreciate two entire levels and like 3 new bosses being added. It's your life though, ganbare.
>>12211221>Which version to playThe best version is the remastered because it adds cut content, uncensored content and adds all the secrets from every console version. Not including high definition and modern resolution fixes.
>>12211991Mike's got that dawg in him
