DONE EXTREME editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23bfEouzFxY
more like team fartress
** REMINDER **WON2 TFC GAME THIS SATURDAY AT 10:00PM CST>GET YOUR COPIES READYhttps://archive.org/details/half-life-platinum-gotyhttps://www.moddb.com/downloads/won2-listing-patch>server: Protoweb Team Fortress 1.5
r8 my iceberg
https://youtu.be/ptKQxbyUWuQ
>>12224336most belowest: The Heretic Fortress
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>>12225120weapons factory
>>12225148also missing gang garrison 2, tf2 invasion by team gaben and maybe cpma ntf xd
>>12223278xD
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>>12225120add attackers go red
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>>12225279This is quite redundant ig, i think you could add Team Fortress 1.5
i was thinking in creating a TFC guide for begineers here, should i make it?
>>12225328Merged it with WON2 TFC since they're extremely similar, if not basically the same, is that okay?>>12225432I'd say go for it
>>12225512the deepest part of this would be Quake 2 Team Fortress 2 aka the original port
>>12225512Doom Fortress for Skulltag
why are tf2 fans so fucking obnoxious? the amount of complaints about sniper is insane, these pussies wouldn't survive 2 minutes in an action quake 2 game
>>12225928tf2 fans are bad at video games
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>>12225986clearly
>>12225928unironically an astroturfed meme by theorycrafting youtubers, not saying that as an insult that's literally what it is. the stupidest thing is they don't even complain about what's actually broken about him, that being his secondaries, but how it's "unfair" for a sniper to not be a close range encounter.
>>12226104otherwise they wouldn't be tf2 fans
>>12226378tf2bers suck honestly, they're pretentious about the game and want everyone to take their word as gospel but if you watch their gameplay they're not better than the average tf2 player, they just screech louder, and honestly their "advice" just ends up making the whole game feel like a chore and it stops being fun
>>12225928>>12226378Everyone misses the point about Sniper. Bullshit melee range flick shots and his counter negation unlocks are only symptoms of the problem, which is he gets way too many chances to deal a lot of damage way too fast for how little risk he incurs save facing another Sniper. To put an arbitrary number to it, long-range headshots are 80% as effective as backstabs, can be thrown out 80% as fast, and incur 10% of the risk and planning of Spy, who fills a similar role. The fact that he scopes and shoots too fast, has inconsistent at best threats at long range besides another Sniper, and has the ammo reserves to camp has been the real issue since day one. A miss has little meaning to Sniper, unlike the potential death sentence it is to every other class. He'd be fine if he maintained his current damage and reloaded slowly enough to realistically get rushed down or eat a flare to the face if he chose to follow up his first shot in an engagement
>>12226483newfriend
>>12226483why do people who don't even main spy keep repeating this talking point? spy is meant to be the wild card, he's not supposed to be as reliable as sniper or any other character for that matter. if he was consistently good in every situation he'd as be overpowered as he is in the meet the team video. that said, it'd be nice if they fixed all his bugs, got rid of the spawning outlines by default, swap how the ambassador and diamondback are balanced (i don't mean revert them mind you), and let the YER gain cloak while under cloak.
>>12226506>and let the YER gain cloak while under cloak.oh wait that's not what it does, i meant get rid of the cloak drain penalty. actually better yet just revert it, it wasn't as good of a knife back then but it was a lot more interesting.
>>12226483Historically speaking, sniper always been the black sheep of Team Fortress, sniper complaints been a thing for years before TF2 was even a thing, and Spy players always thought outside of the box to make him manageable in actual gameshttp://qwtf.org/cookj/rifle.htmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUKFmyer3nQ&feature=emb_err_woyt
>>12226652Team Fortress never changeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5oXHYaDRVU
>>12226858(for context, the video shows a cheater getting caught and raging, which like whining about snipers is a common sight)
WON2 TFC TONIGHT, GET YOUR COPIES READY >>12223901
https://youtu.be/I3BA-mVDDxo
>>12226103https://www.moddb.com/mods/team-elite
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>>12227817I'm on the protoweb server but there's nobody there, did it already end? ;_;
>>12229594Aww, i got busy yesterday, and the event i went was canceled so i went there in vain, shame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8WMqnSBQU
>>12223276Are you guys going trick or treating?
>>12229149dam, that's a lot of team fortress
https://youtu.be/V7LdgCCPN1U TFC binds are the best for trashtalk
>>12226483>>12225928>>12225986>>12226378I don't know about you guys, but I've never seen a 4v4 match in TFC/FF/FO where Sniper isn't a banned pick.
>>12231972things are different in tfc. he can cripple the enemy team by shooting them in the leg which obviously as well as shoot his teammates across the map. if you rush him down, then he'll just pull out his automatic rifle and usually kill you first. note how none of this has to do with the basic idea of sniping.
>>12231992>which obviously*makes it easier to either line up or a headshot or, better yet, let the rest of your team take care of him while he's crippled.
>>12231972The thing is, Organized play in old TF, sniper kind of defeats the point of going offense, the game is fast paced and there is instant respawn times, so doesnt matter if you brute force your way through the enemy base, if you kill the sniper, he will come back, unlike in TF2 where the sniper can still be a problem but if you kill him he will be gone for around 15 seconds
>>12232046Sniper is banend for both offense and defense
>>12233007Did pyro as well was banned? pyro is banned because the class is underpowered is it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyZ8kuFS8wU
>>12233953depends on the game.Maybe in TFC organized games, but FortressOne Pyro was buffed a fair amount and sees regular play on both offense and defense in 4v4.Not sure about Fortress Forever 4v4, it's been a long time since I've played the game at all and I know that Pyro got a bit of an overhaul.Sniper is the only class that I've never seen in any 4v4. You will see him in larger games, though. Example: https://youtu.be/6x6VZwDeUzE?t=1591
>>12225512How is FF not with TFC? Everyone's played that.
conc thread
EXCUSE ME! I'm in need of medical attention!
im pretty good at conc maps if i do say so myself. Mid asf at quad maps thoughbeep beep beep
>>12236497I gotta play more conc maps, any good conc maps for begineers? i can double conc at best
