How game changing was Street Fighter II in 1991?
>>12233921Hmm idk, only spawned a whole fucking genre, use your fucking brain
Before any other replies, I want to get in here that the stories of lines 10+ people deep and arcades packed like sardines were regional phenomena in the USA, and not the norm. There is only scant historical evidence for said occurrences, and if they had truly been national-level there would be a great many photos and news reports of such. But there are not. Because it did not happen.SFII was a massive smash hit and the most popular video game in the world in 1992. But let's stick to the historically documented facts and not urban legend.
>>12233921Just look at SF 1 then 2 and see for yourself
>>12233949I definitely remember having a line form to play against me at my local Indianapolis suburban Wal Mart. SF II was huge.
>>12233967Not 10 people deep.
>>12233968Did you count?
>>12233997Yes.
>>12233949People huddling around the newest and most exciting arcade game wasn't exclusive to 1992. Sure, a 10+ line up just to play may be an exaggeration but you'd get plenty of people wanting to take a look at a new game by spectating first especially if someone good was playing, it was one of the keys of learning arcade games, watching people play it.
>>12233921Frankly, while it was great and made competition more common in arcades, the operators started favoring fighting games and soon every arcade was 45 SFII cabinets and five other games. That aspect sucked, but it slowly equalized, then most arcades imploded.
>>12233949LOL arcade fever denialism now?lolLMAO even-.t. had to wait my turn at many a packed arcade with my quarter on the bezel holding my turn to play Super Mario Bros. on a Playchoice 10 in 1986.
>>12233921It was almost unnoticeable in its impact
>>12233942fpbp and /thread
>>12233949I can still add personal anecdote that the only games I EVER saw lines for in an arcade were SF2, Cruising USA, and some shitty hologram game that cost $2 and had terrible controls.
>>12234056Waited your turn is not the same thing as 10 people waiting in line.
>>12234209Anon! I waited in a line of more than ten to play the game. How many exactly? I'd be lying if I said I remembered that, but vaguely it was more than ten, but less than thirty. ....That kind of thing was typical with the most popular games, like Dragon's Lair, Tempest, Super Mario Bros., Smash TV, Captain America and the Avengers, and of course, Street Fighter II.
>>12234196Nta, but how about lines for Galaxy Force and Star Wars (1983)?Pit Fighter* demanded one wait in line for a very brief time.Just recalled that Roadblasters and S.T.U.N. Runner had lines too.*Caveman Prototype Mortal Kombat
>>12234196Sega Time Traveler?
>>12234264We had lines for Atari Star Wars. The combo of Return of the jedi and Atari star wars was fucking powerful.
>>12233949I saw 10 man lines queued for more than one fighting game in the late '90s. I doubt peak SF2 didn't have them. Arcades were social and it kinda saved money to learn everything you could as a spectator without actually being a complete bitch by not ever playing.
>>12234278The cockpit version of Star Wars 1983 is just perfect and everyone knows it. Those vector graphics knocked it out of the park, nevermind that every kid felt like they were Luke Skywalker piloting an X-Wing in a bid to save the galaxy.Return of the Jedi was exceedingly rare in my parts so I didn't even run into one until it was at a friend's house sometime in the late 90s and my my my is that one tough bugger. I've beaten it and it feels like a real accomplishment.
>>12234264My anecdote can only be for what I saw.They almost certainly had lines, no dispute from me.>>12234275That's the one, thanks.
>>12234308Yes I understood you, just wondered what else someone saw back then.
>>12234258>That kind of thing was typical with the most popular games, like Dragon's Lair, Tempest, Super Mario Bros., Smash TV, Captain America and the Avengers,Utter nonsense.
>>122342641-3 people sure.But not 10. Let's not fall into hyperbole.
>>12234335You weren't alive back then and you obviously don't care for video games.
>>12234336>he used the word hyperbole to respondWow you're smart so you must be right!OR you're a sourpuss who wasn't even alive back then. Youth+bitterness is a bad look, anon.
I played in FGC arcade-based tournaments in the 2000s. With the arcade packed full of people dedicated to fighting games. I don't recall ever seeing a line 10 people long for a single machine. However, we had multiple machines running the same game.
>>12234338Show me the photos and news stories of these massive SF2 crowds. If it was such a phenomenon it would have coverage. Game magazines of the time would have posted at least one photo of the madness.
Why are zoomers constantly insisting that life 40+ years ago was as colorless then and as shitty as life is now? Yes, motherfuckers, there were long lines of adults and kids who wanted to play Dragon's Lair. Deal with it. It was fabulous tech at the time. You wouldn't understand. Best you cram your face back onto your phone and play Royal Transaction or whatever.
Here are some real photos from the SF2 era. This is from Southern California, the epicenter of the SF2 boom in the USA. Nice crowd, but I don't see too many long lines.
>>12234343>heh heh heh if I ignore the entire Internet full of videos and pics of this exact thing I win!Not doing your homework for you, sonny, but nice try.
>>12234346Not every arcade operator would have 25 SF II cabs, genius not seen since Napoleon.
>>12234345I could believe a line of several people when the game was brand new. Other than that, you're massively exaggerating.
>>12234349lol no, that's the thing. I'm not exaggerating one bit. BIT-get it? But really, you are just projecting your ignorance as some sort of weird defense mechanism. It must be a form of reverse-FOMO.
>>12234348And they wouldn't have such massive amounts of people coming to their arcade either, nor would they be in SoCal. >>12234347The burden of proof is on you to prove it happened. We are literally at the "pics or didn't happen" stage here. Note that I'm not disputing SF2's overall popularity and sales. That is well documented and obvious. I'm talking about the urban legends of lines 10 people deep at the corner stores and gas stations. For months, supposedly.
>>12234352You're one of the slimy old arcade player types I know well. Not an honest bone in your body. Everything is always swinging from one extreme to another.
I mean, why do you think Gen Xers like me immerse ourselves in nostalgia 24-7? Because 1983 sucked? No. Arcades were massive parties back then, unless you lived in a real shithole, or, you know, weren't alive back then.Don't forget that every Godfather's Pizza and 7-11 had the hottest games and you bet your gramma's walker there were lines. Lines like in the arcades? No, but they got five deep at times.
>>12234360Five is not equal to ten. I'm glad we can come back down to Earth about this.
>>12234359I'm being 100% honest with you and I am an arcade guy. Who needs a gym when I move all the games myself?This all comes down to how you're unhappy and allowing that unhappiness to alter your view of reality.
>>12234363-at a 7-11 or a regular restaurant. I never claimed there were massive lines there.
>>12234364lmao that manner of writing drips with exactly the kind of jerkwad I was referencing.
>>12234368>why, yes, I do wish to confirm my raging jealousy You can buy arcade cabs too if you want them bad enough, ese. There's no need for you to feel bad. :)
>>12234370I've owned them and sold them and owned them again and sold them again. And built them and sold them. Currently, I have sworn off owning or building any more. Now faggot, share your SF2 memories if you've really got them.
>>12234374I try not to think too hard for creeps online that calls me bad names for no good reason. Your options are to apologize or to disguise another reply as a different anon.
>>12234378Alright then fuck off
>>12234379OK, so I'm gonna enjoy the thread and reply if I need to and you can ignore my posts and I'll ignore yours.
>>12234275I've been wanting the name of this one. Danke.We need a sequel that approaches TNG holodeck.
>>12233949Don't forget about the myth that arcades in America were virtually warzones.
>>12234387>the myth that arcades in America were virtually warzonesThat actual myth was pushed by worrywarts who heard of one fight in their town arcade among kids, or the fact that real biker gangs would occasionally play the games in arcades and at fairgrounds was blown totally out of proportion.Myself in my entire arcade career so to speak have been threatened just once and received a shove just once. Not bad and I'd agree that those don't mean anything in the grand scheme.
>>12233942HURR DURR NO IT DIDN'T! ALL THOSE SUBSEQUENT FIGHTERS WERE ACTUALLY RIPPING OFF YI AR KUNG FU!!!
>>12234346Now imagine if half of those cabs had less popular games.
>>12233949>Where is da evidence!?
>>12234275They made a home release of that game. It's just a laserdisc game with a fun gimmick really. Created by the same guy that made Dragon's Lair
>>12234258You're just arguing with some dipshit contrarian anon.
>>12233949>why aren't there pictures of arcade lines in 1991Zoomie thinks cell phone cameras have existed forever. No one was documenting arcade lines, I doubt many would even think to bring a camera to an arcade
>>12234867Not the same. The cabinet was set up with a mirror array that actually made a hologram. There was a little dude in a 3D space you could stick your finger through. It wasnt a flat screen with merging images that make 3D.You couldnt recreate what the hologram cabinet did with glasses.
>>12234196Mk2 when it came out had 30 person lines at Kristoff'a in round lake illinois
>>12235071Post pictures
>>12235078No one brought cameras to arcades zoomie. Film and development was expensive
>>12233921it was as famous and popular as bola de dragon (goku or dragon ball for you) in its peak, I am talking 1991-1993
>>12235105It never happened boomer
>>12235105>No one brought cameras to arcadesYes they did, there's plenty of photos of arcades from that time period. A line 30 people long for a new game is exactly the kind of thing people would have taken pictures of the 90s. It would have gotten a blurb in Gamepro or EGM if it was happening in many places. >Film and development was expensiveThis is a straight up lie. We're talking about 1993. This is when film was the cheapest it was ever going to be. Film was like $2 a roll, and development was $3-5. Hobbyist photographers shot massive amounts of film, the same way people at the arcade had no problem dropping money in an arcade machine.
>>12235560>Film was like $2 a roll, and development was $3-5.Not them, but you're completely wrong. Back then everything you mentioned was at today's prices.
>>12235231That is, film development could easily cost 40 or 50 bucks depending on how many rolls you had, what type of film and the business itself.
The other anon doesn't seem to comprehend that spending even five dollars in the mid-80s or early 90s on video games in an arcade was quite a lot.
>>12233921SFII was so big a bunch of its characters ended up making a cameo in a Jackie Chan movie (City Hunter)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWHbB4UQaaQ
>>12235231>thing I wasn't around for didn't happen Sorry for your generation zoom zoom faggot
I've noticed that most 1-on-1 fighters before world warrior, including Street Fighter 1, had noticeable input delay. I mean, SF2 had some too but not that much where as AoF and Fatal Fury had it bad in comparison. You go back to SF2 and it felt super responsive.
>>12235560No they didn't, people didn't document the mundane en masse. You wouldn't take a camera to the arcade because you were there to play games, not memorialize the action. People took photographs of graduations, birthday parties, holidays and vacations. The idea of wasting film on what you ate or a game you played didn't come to be until the advent of digital photography. There was a price to a photograph so you had to be particular with what you wanted to photograph. People wore sneakers in the early 90s, but where is the documentation of people trying on new shoes? People wore makeup, but where is the documentation of them applying the makeup? People played Nintendo, but where are the long plays of kids playing megaman in 1991?
>>12235684I could understand if you were making a point about an average day at an arcade, but a line of 30 people waiting to play MK2 is far from average and is a photo-worthy moment.
>>12234358You are just a Jeet bot meant to play the whole "I was just pretending to be retarded"
>>12235803No it isn't because at an arcade there would be long lines in front of popular games. That's not noteworthy, you wouldn't go to a theme park and snap pictures of lines for a roller coaster because they are expected
>>12234028>it was one of the keys of learning arcade games, watching people play it.You had to, fucking, actually leave your house to see some dudes playing Street Fighter on some local mall?
>>12234056Jesus Christ dude, how fucking old are you?!
>>12235684This is accurate. You occasionally can find old pictures or videos from some autistic guy who felt the need to document everything but it was rare.
>>12236161Real answer: I don't know.Polybius is real btw.
>>12235850meds
>>12235684>people didn't document the mundane en masse.But we're not talking about mundane. So you've completely missed the point.
>>12236240>misses the pointLmao
>>12236484You're extremely stupid.
>>12236524I'm gonna call you Mr transparency with how much you like to project lol
>>12233921People were playing and talking about it for years...champion's edition was a massive deal in the arcade's too and the snes port of world warrior was quite early and excellent, then turbo edition...but yeah anyway like 4 years of being a big deal
>>12236524isn't your whole theory >it would have been a big deal and then people would have taken picturesWhile the other anon is saying >it wasn't uncommon for lines at cabinets?You honestly think lines at arcades were newsworthy?You're kind of a weird contrarian faggot aren't you?
>>12233949Canada Fag hereSFII and SF Champion Edition machines were always mogged by peopleSFII was a simple fighting game that took over the world and gave birth to every console having to have 6 or more buttons FOREVER.
>>12234346> No linesNigga that place had fucking 25 SF cabs.Most places had ONEIf they had TWO it was some kind of OH LALA!
>>12235684Yes because my 11 year old ass with a handful of quarters that grandma gave me and I am also going to be rocking a fucking CAMERA in 1992.I swear some of these Gen Z or Alpha kids think we all have their tech back then
>>12237817I guess they think that documenting everything you do was always a part of human nature. Imagine going to someone's house and they had a photo album full of pictures of food they made. You'd think they were a serial killer
>>12237828My mother owned a video camera AND a camera from 1986 to about 2000 and honestly, we have maybe only one album full of photos across that near 15 years and a handful of footage. It was all quick brithday, X-mas, the odd party here and there. But a trip to the arcade? A trip to a restaurant? We ain't main character psychos! But you know who is..........?
>>12233921>How game changing was Street Fighter II in 1991?game was an enormous success. the bootleg versions, that capcom made no money off of. were a much bigger success. the bootlegs forced capcom to introduce encryption on cps2, forced capcom to release a newer version of the game that was better than the bootleg (incorporating what the bootleggers did by disassembling their code lol). downside was the original creator of street fighter hated the turbo version so much that he left the company
>>12237837Yeah we had a video camera and my dad always liked having a nice camera. But typically our video camera was used to film Christmas mornings and the odd sporting event. Almost all of the photos in our photo album are staged family photos at holidays and then some vacation photos at Yellowstone etc. I used to go to a lot of concerts in the late 90s early 2000s and I don't think I ever brought a disposable camera to them. When a roll of film was developed it would typically encompass months of time, here are 3 pics from Thanksgiving, an ice hockey game I played in, Xmas and maybe Easter. Different time
>>12235560>Yes they did,rarely >This is a straight up lie.nope>This is when film was the cheapest it was ever going to befilm was cheap, developing wasn't. that's always been the case, you retard schizo.
>>12237865I went to my local arcade (1993 to 1999) almost twice a week for years and I can't recall ever see someone recording or taking a photo.The first time I ever saw anyone take a photo was years later when Initial D was a thing and you needed to write down your "code" for top times and people were using digital cameras to do that.
>>12237893Some zoomie really thought his "why aren't there more pictures of 10 people in a line" logic was unassailable
>>12237893Because nothing special was happening at your arcade, retard.>>12237960Because it is. If it was such a huge noteworthy event happening all over the country it would have been covered in media of the time.
>>12237837And here's another retard who can't tell the difference between documenting mundane everyday things vs someone documenting a very unusual event. We're drifting into "but I did have breakfast!" territory here. Really bad look for /vr/.
>>12237426Lines of 3-5 people are not newsworthy.A national phenomenon of people 10+ deep across the country is.
>>12238014>still trying to love goalpostsLmao
>>1223802110+ people was the original claim, you fucking idiot.
>>12238030I said 30 you subhuman zoomie faggot
>>12238030>zoomie can't comprehend why someone having to wait maybe 15 minutes for dopamine wouldn't be national newsHoly degenerate
>>12233949And we learned from this post that /vr/ is full of morons who literally cannot count or possess enough theory of mind to understand that their arguments that "I never saw anyone taking photos in an arcade" is actually evidence FOR this post. If you never saw anyone taking pictures, then maybe there wasn't anything worth taking a picture of! As in no crazy mobs of people and lines ten or more people waiting to play the game. >b-but I definitely saw lines!Yes, but how many people were in that line? Count on your hands if you need to, seems more like the average old "arcade guy" education level going by this thread. . >but it was definitely at least five!And 5 is not 10, dumbass. You're arguing against yourself.
>>12238050>just cause you lived through and remember it doesn't mean you know more than I doGo take a picture of the rope tranny lol
>>12238030Why do you think 10 people is rare and newsworthy?
>>12236240Explain to me why someone would bring a camera with them to another day at the arcade, and why that doesn't seem like a mundane thing to do.
>>12233949>>12238050Yes it was regional, but everyone already knew that arcades were bigger in major cities and more so in certain states than others. You're being goofy if you don't think it happened regularly in regions where arcades were big like California. Hell, even if 2011 I saw lines of like 10 people for Street Fighter 4 in a CA arcade. It was all the time or everyday, but big fighting games like SFII would absolutely draw a crowd at the right time and place. Pretty regularly too.I'm not saying you're wrong, it just seemed strange to pre-emptively say something like that.
>>12238007In the 90s it was not unique for the arcade to be packed, specially on a Saturday or Sunday.
>>12238198It wasn't "another day at the arcade" if SF2 mania was such a huge deal.
>>12238217The original post that started this allowed for regional exceptions.
I never saw any lines in my hometown for SF2, its updates, or MK 1 - 2, but a few early millennials have admitted to sneaking off to the nearest circle k, 7-11, or movie theater with their mom's laundry money to play SF2.
>>12238362And how were you to know that without actually going to the arcade.
>>12238621It would most likely be the arcade owner taking the photos. And since these "legendary" times were supposedly so remarkable (according to FGC and retro gaming lore) they'd have made a special effort to document it. Additionally, newspapers and magazines covering public interest stories looked for these kinds of things to cover.
>>12238629Arcade owners didn't take this seriously. These were guys that if they could replace all their stuff with slot machines and keep the cigarettes they would. They were dues in their 40s who didn't give a fuck about Street Kombat and Mortal Fighter Bros
>>12238641I've met these types.And I've also seen the wall behind the counter of that same guy's arcade covered in polaroids of different parties they've had at the same arcade.
>>12238362>be you>be a zoomie>be dumb faggot >be interested in retro games>share the board with people who lived in the heyday of retro gaming>different anons tell you what it was like>say nuh uh and use a supid historical revisionist narrative asking why people didn't document lines of 10 people at arcade games>assume since your generation documents the shits they take with photography people in the past must have done the samehttps://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/1991https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/1992https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/1993A version of sf2 was the highest grossing arcade game in 1991/1992 and the highest grossing entertainment product in 1993/1994There you go.
>>12238747Thank you anon.They didn't live it, they will never understand,
>>12234402I know you're joking but I've heard disingenuous fucks use this argument and it's just... what are you trying to prove
>>12238771There is always a troll who has nothing better to do then try to cause chaos due to his own shitty life
>>12238747The original post that started this discussion stated that SF2 was a huge hit. You're an imbecile with a failure in critical reading skills.
>>12238960I'd think a game is a big hit if it is the biggest grossing arcade game for more than a single year.
>>12238961You should have spent less time at the arcades and more time at the library lol.
>>12239190Yeah, I realized I should have have largest rather than biggest beyond the point of the post being submitted, but it's fitting for your low quality posts to be met with that in return.
>>12234346HOLY SHIT.
>>12238764>They'll never understand itThat's fine, I just wish they wouldn't promote their theories.
>>12239190
>>12238764>>12238747>>12234892>>12235105>>12234345I'm 41 years old. I was pretty young at the time but I don't recall ever seeing long lines for SF2 and I was at arcades every week. The longest line I ever saw for a video game was Mortal Kombat II and that was no more than five people.
>>12239929>I'm 41 years old.Yeah sure
>>12239929Then your area sucked if you're not lying. My city is in a Steve Miller Band song about being clear out from everywhere else and we had a kick ass arcade community as it were.
>>12239929>I'm 41Bullshit, you wouldn't have been mystified by 5 different anons explaining to you how little people took pictures of non events like lines at arcades.
>>12240096>>I'm 41>Bullshit, you wouldn't have been mystified by 5 different anons explaining to you how little people took pictures of non events like lines at arcades.THIS so hard.
>>12239929I also think a lot of places would just get duplicate cabinets eventually if they saw 10+ lines regularly. Or people wouldn't always be queued up just waiting for the game. They'd see a crowd around the game they wanted to play, and then play other games until it cleared up a bit. So not necessarily surprising you didn't see it at your place, even if it was popular.
>>12240096>how little people took pictures of non events like lines at arcades.Yeah, it feels like people forget how rarely most people had cameras with them back then.
>>12240480They can't comprehend that arcades were so ubiquitous and jam packed that we all assumed that they'd be around forever.
>>12240480Not only was a decent camera a bulky thing to carry around, it was also an expensive item. Even a disposable camera would have been bulkier than the average cell phone>>12240489That and pay phones. I used to deliver pizzas in high school in the early 00s and I new where every pay phone was in my hometown. Pay phones have been gone for a decade plus and now no one my age has a landline at home.
>>12240502>That and pay phones. I used to deliver pizzas in high school in the early 00s and I new where every pay phone was in my hometown. Pay phones have been gone for a decade plus and now no one my age has a landline at home.They were handy. Dirty, but handy. I think the last time I used one was maybe around 2010 but it was in the roughest most barely operable shape and I used a napkin to touch things.
>>12233942Not only that, it revitalized arcades like no other game in like a decade.
>>12240542It's funny I thought my copy of the SNES WW was a 1:1 with the arcade machines. I was an adult when I noticed the difference.
>>12240557They made Chun Li hotter in every portait and ending in the SNES WW version
>>12240557>It's funny I thought my copy of the SNES WW was a 1:1 with the arcade machines. I was an adult when I noticed the difference.Same. Had so much fun playing it with my cousin and he thought it was exactly like the arcade too.
>>12233949>The US is huge and has different regionsMight be the dumbest bait on /vr/ right now.There are places in the US where you don't even have to wait in line at the DMV and the clerk might be a cheerful old white lady.
>>12240626You're just restating his point.
>>12240502>Not only was a decent camera a bulky thing to carry aroundNo it wasn't. A 110 point and shoot camera would have been fine for what this thread is talking about. These camera were extremely common and the film was cheap. Teens and college students covered their bedrooms and filled albums with photos from these. Much cheaper than polaroids.
>>12240885Dude we barely had $1 for a few games of Street Fighter, what kid under 16 was like "dude when I get $20 I am going to buy myself a camera, then I am going to buy myself some film and THEN i'm going to pay to have it developed and wait 2 weeks on the off chance my smokey dark as fuck arcade photos will develop well.Man if you are a dude under 16 with $10 to your name you are buying comics, playing cards and geting trading cards, never once in my whole life in the 80s or 90s did we all stop and go "Hey let's take a photo!"
>>12240885Teens as in girls, right?
>>12240890You borrowed your parent's camera. It seems your group did not have an amateur photographer in it.>>12240921More often, but not exclusively. Just depended on the group and if they had a member who was into photography, which was semi-common.
>>12240965> You borrow your parents cameraYes my mom is going to lend me her expensive camera to bring to the arcade that the moment I put it down on the ground between my legs and i'm locked into a game of Street Fighter is going to get stolen.
>>12237860>the bootlegs forced capcom to introduce encryption on cps2How the fuck do you bootleg/pirate an arcade game?!
>>12241257unlicensed third party companies that already usually manufacture legitimate boards copies them under pseudoynms?
>>12241268also with earlier games it was possible to take the board from some random throway game no one gave a shit about, bootleg your own chips and shit from a legitimate board from SFII for example, and then just Venom Snake it to be the game that's gonna sell better
>>12240885Yeah, but still most people didn't carry a camera with them, even one of those, unless they were going out planning to take photos of something. Like an event or a family trip or something.It's not that nobody did it, it's that the odds of a random person happening to be carrying a camera on the spot were infinitely smaller than nowadays where every person carries one all the time.
>>12241065It's not expensive.
>>12241489When you are 7-13 years old, $10 in 1993 is a million dollars
>>12241374Zoomers can't comprehend a world before the technology they have existed. They think if there is a similar technology then people back then had the same habits as people of 2025 have now. This is why corporations push what they do, because if they keep doing their bullshit long enough, people that grow into it think it's just normal.
>>12241512They got a $1000 phone for free from their parentsII got a fucking $199 Gameboy and was rarely allowed to leave the house with it due to fear of it getting misplaced
>>12240885Yeah that doesn't fit comfortably in your pocket anon. And it's not made out of the type of plastic you would want to sit on. And people didn't take cameras with them to an activity like the arcade or hanging out at the mall because society was much different. And you already pretended to he 41 itt lol
>>12241489Yes even portable cameras were expensive. Even a disposable camera would be expensive when considering developing the film. You aren't 41 and you are talking out of your ass
>>12240620Nice upgrade
>>12233949>zoomie needs to get his historical revisionist opinion in before primary sources start talkingLurk moar
>>12233921I don't know if any other games before SFII had you essentially risk a quarter in 2p. It was a big dynamic change for arcades where instead of cooperating or turn taking and trying to outscore the other player was supplanted by risking your turn head to head.
>>12242695Everyone copied SFII both in genre, style of characters, money making system, international appeal, music, etc.It might be a hot take but I don't think there is a single arcade game from 1986 to today that did that till maybe Dance Dance Revolution
>>12233949>>12233949>>12233949this post triggered so many frauds and liars. this isn't an SF2 thread, this is a thread for "that kid" from school to continue to spread lies in his 40s
>>12242805Looks like you're the only one triggered zoom zoom lol
>>12241510>>12240890Then how were kids able to "spend all day at the arcade" playing SF2 and other games? And then coming back and doing it again the next day?
>>12242934Some had lunch money and bought very little with it, didn't eat lunch, or had money over what they'd get and use the change to play a game. Also you aren't always at a cab all the time at the arcade. You play and watch others play, especially if you're with friends.
>>12242940Then how were there droves of kids lined up to play SF2 if they were all only able to scrape together a couple bucks once a week?
>>12243073Are you retarded?
>>12234345>Why are zoomers constantly insisting that life 40+ years ago was as colorless then and as shitty as life is now?I wonder if it seems weird to young zoomers/alphas that you could find big groups of people doing just about anything outside. Like public spaces were a lot more bustling in the past in general. The idea that seeing 10 people gathered around an arcade machine is hard to believe seems strange to me.
>>12243086Yeah he is retarded. He's argued that>cameras were lightweight and inexpensive >film and development were inexpensive>a line of 10 people is unfathomable>that he is 41>his retarded worldview is more important than primary sources
>>12241374>Yeah, but still most people didn't carry a camera with them, even one of those, unless they were going out planning to take photos of something. Like an event or a family trip or something.And even if you had a camera with you, you were limited with how many photos you could take on it. It's not like now where you can take unlimited photos, so you're not likely to waste it on mundane shots. Plus arcades were dark and noisy, hard to get good shots in.
>>12243203Weird chart. This one is better.
>>12243208SFII was released in 1991
>>12243257Oh yeah, just noticed that. I guess both charts are shit then.
>>12243261
>>12243269What's a Nubian?
>>12243181It goes deep. He cannot connect the dots, and when more is presented he still doesn't get it. Like often times kids get lunch money every day, it wasn't a chunk for the whole week for every household. Kids would budget that money so they could spend it elsewhere. Was it always the arcades? No. Maybe some candy after school. Did everyone get lunch money? No, there were still kids that brought lunch to school.Then being how oblivious how prevalent cameras were. Boys weren't carrying them around. If you look at photo albums they are often picture of trips or milestones like birthdays, family gatherings, graduations, or general baby photos since milestones happened quickly as a baby.Then thinking you'll dump all your money within 30 minutes at the arcade. If there's a line up at the cab you want to be at you have to wait. Now it is time that you have to wait and not spend money on a game, and if there are other people you have to wait multiple sessions. If you're beaten then you go back to the end of the line so the next person can have a shot, if you even go to the end of the line and not cool down for a few minutes.Everything they are arguing and questioning about what is said blatantly shows they weren't alive when it happened. To think there should always be photos and people will always have cameras means you grew up with smart phones assuming everyone can record at will. Waiting in a line, watching people play games, and just walking off a defeat isn't a concept because they grew up with games that let's you mash retry and immediately get back into the game and try your luck again.It'll probably blow their mind that kids didn't park themselves in front of the TV all day to play video games but actually went outside, and played with the neighbors kids. Something they possibly can't comprehend due to scares of child predators nabbing kids from the front lawn and later on 9/11.
>>12243387you sure are mad
>>12243398Fuck off retard lol
>>12243387>Everything they are arguing and questioning about what is said blatantly shows they weren't alive when it happened. To think there should always be photos and people will always have cameras means you grew up with smart phones assuming everyone can record at will. Waiting in a line, watching people play games, and just walking off a defeat isn't a concept because they grew up with games that let's you mash retry and immediately get back into the game and try your luck again.Him saying he was 41 was his attempt at a respawn lol
>>12242805Lol you are so mad that everyone that lived through it correctly identified you as a dumb zoomie
>>12243387>Then being how oblivious how prevalent cameras were. Boys weren't carrying them around.It's hard explaining to a zoomer, who is used to live with a smartphone glued to his fingers, that right before he was born, cameras would be parked in some corner of the house and you would only take them with you when you went to the wedding of a close family member, a trip, a graduation of your kids or similar out-of-the-ordinary events. Even at home, you would only use your camera in special occasions, like taking pictures of the kid's carnival or halloween costumes right before going outside, birthdays, Christmas dinners with the part of the family you rarely see, etc. If someone does't understand this, his zoomerness is more than confirmed.
>>12243827>Him saying he was 41 was his attempt at a respawn lolThis. Your comment here made me smile and laugh too much.>>12244303They're all like that btw. They act like Gen X was in control of everything for 100 years and also pissed on their new video games.>>12244337Zooms also can't comprehend another reality of film development back then--sometimes the film got stolen. Very, VERY nice pictures of a trip I took in the late 90s is just gone forever because an employee couldn't be asked to do their job. Zooms certainly believe that never ever happened too.
>>12244303I'm 38 retardo. sorry that your fantasy got exposed for what it is and you're coping and malding about it though
>>12244860Okay, grandpa!!!!
schizo samefag
Imagine if there was only 1-2 cabs faggot
>>12245685They can't imagine, that's why they ask for photos all the time.
>>12245685>Three different people have near identical SF2 t-shirtsSomething fucky here. It's a tournament or other special gathering.
>>12245816It is probably from a tournament. That's Sunnyvale Golfland. https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/james-goddard-saw-the-birth-of-the-i-street-fighter-ii-i-phenomenonThis was the mecca of SF2. In the hometown of Capcom USA. To call it a typical arcade would be dishonest.
>>12245828By the way Sunnyvale is in the heart of Silicon Valley. An arcade there would be filled with young workers from the various tech companies in the valley with lots of disposable income.
That pic is from SoCal not NorCal genius.
>>12245892It's literally the same room from the article.
>>12245901>same type of cabinet>same t-shirt>same wall>same type of cabinet number in the corner of the marquee.
>>12245685Here's a pic from the SF2 Champion Edition days (for those who don't recognize the marquee, SF2CE machines are the ones located at both sides of the Mortal Kombat one).
>>12245943That's a famous photo of a tournament in southern california. It's not a typical arcade moment.
>>12245957It's Family Fun Arcade in Los Angeles. The same arcade from this post >>12234346
>>12245835>By the way Sunnyvale is in the heart of Silicon Valley. An arcade there would be filled with young workers from the various tech companies in the valley with lots of disposable income.Worth noting that Silicon Valley wasn't anywhere like what we think of it now before the mid 90s and the internet boom.
>>12246008Like I had family in Mountain View growing up in the 90s, there were tech companies but it was a completely different place back then.
>>12245983Excellent work.
Nobody denies hotspots and events meant more crowded arcades than other contexts. But it was still common for even smaller arcades outside of hotspots to have days where they saw more traffic than normal for whatever reason, days where'd you see bigger crowds around machines. I'm not even sure what people are arguing anymore.
>>12233949VCR/Camcorders were expensive and you weren't taking them to the fucking arcade.If you were taking pictures it was with a dispoable camera and you had to go PAY to get the film developed, now who was trekking around with their necklace Disposable camera to the arcades and taking pictures of strangers in a line?Fucking nobody because we didn't record every milisecond of our lives before the convience of digital cameras.
>>12244860I thought you were 41?
>>12246636>every poster that disagrees with me is the same personholy reddit
>>12246654Yeah sure
>>12246654Reddit has account names zoom zoom. Your comment makes no sense
"Hey old millennial, show me graphical evidence that the third highest grossing arcade game of all time had long queues of people wanting to play it, because desu I find it hard to believe."Zoomers have great humour sense ngl.
>>12246654That doesn't make sense, that would be a holy 4chan thing because everyone here is anonymous and you could get away with it.
>>12246743inflation isn't real
>>12246835Good thing there is a column not adjust for inflation then zoom zoom
>>12246856what is your point? I'm saying inflation isn't real. therefore your image is worthless as it's only posted to push a weird agenda about the value of money
W8
ITT: zoomies getting their warped false view of video game history wrecked beyond repair.For example:>>12245983Thanks for posting that, Anon.
>>12246875It's not image and your "inflation isn't real" is a first year econ students understanding of economics. I get your 19 and that you are saying "I'm so smart, seeing through the system" but it's a worthless comment since the chart also shows non adjusted for inflation. You were just trying to farm some pseud-yous and you look like a retard
>>12247014He's firing up a >I only count 11 people and 2 of them are playing so not a line of ten, I'm 39 and a half btw" response
>>12247198>They're waiting to pay gas!>I bet three of them just want candy and can't find it because the marquee lights have blinded them!
>>12247193>yourstopped reading there. learn basic grammar before you post on 4chan. stay on topic too this thread is about SF2
>>12247205Nta, but that only works at rebbit. Lurk more.
>phone posterwrong board, wrong website, wrong life. don't reply to me ever again
>>12247014That's from an episode of Baywatch, a fake tv show.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0394287/mediaviewer/rm2762427904/>>12247198Embarrassing.
>>12247034That news article proves the original post was correct. It makes no mention of massively long lines, X-men drew more people, and only six people were waiting to play the game before opening.
>>12246406>now who was trekking around with their necklace Disposable camera to the arcades and taking pictures of strangers in a line?Street photographers took photos of every mundane thing you can imagine.
>>12246743Funny how you never hear about NBA Jam mania and lines ten people deep to play that game even though it objectively made almost as much money as SF2 in the USA.It's because there's no NBA Jam community of skeezy and dumb "OG" players who have spread such exaggerated urban legends.
>>12247398NBA Jam was just a massive sucker of quarters EVEN if you were the best NBA Jam player on earth. In that game, you had to pay one credit before starting every quarter of the match, no matter if you were winning or losing.So, even if NBA Jam sold fewer machines than Mortal Kombat 2 or 1, it made double the money, since you had to pay additional money to continue your playthrough even if you were winning every match.Genius idea, no doubt, but I doubt its player base was bigger than Mortal Kombat 1 or 2.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dlk0GJgWlgU&pp=ygUUMTk5NCBzc2YyIHRvdXJuYW1lbnQ%3D
>>12247651This video is a good response to the FGC absurd claims about the B Series/EVO being ground zero for fighting game tournaments in the USA.
>>12247483I just wanna add that NBA Jam arcade cabinets are all verifiably haunted.
>>12247771?
>>12247205Nigger.
>>12238747Fuck you, boomer!
