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Based ,pretty ballsy to have this message in a video game
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>>12236831
>wow so deep wow such deep deconstruction
More like time to touch a better game made by someone that actually likes videogames.
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>>12236836
>someone that actually likes videogames
I mean I think it's just saying you shouldn't spend all of your time on vidya, just go ouyside and love people a little
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>>12236831
I've known about this one for a few years now. I've had it on my deck for a good while now, I really should get around to trying it out.
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>>12236831
>muh game that is not a game
This kind of bullshit arsty non-games for posers were the start of the downfall.
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>>12236831
this game rabidly stinked
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>>12236982
No, LdL's output was rather niche. Its impact can only be felt in other adventure games. Self-contemptuous pseudo-games which blur the line between mediums like MGS are the real culprit.
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>>12236982
It is a game ,kinda like a point&click (but much harder)
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>>12236958
Maybe don't inflict your judgemental hippie crap on people you don't even know and they won't fucking avoid you like the plague.
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>>12236987
No, it's the plastic glomboho søyfaced indie shit.
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>>12236831
>go outside
ok, and then what you fucking out of touch boomers? I dont have friends. women are disgusted by me. I live in a shitty boring suburb. am I supposed to go walk around the neighborhood doing nothing? wow that really enriched my life, ishmael. thank you god you came along. my depression is cured. the magical properties of grass have fixed my self hatred and mental illness. bravo
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>>12237017
It's not too anon don't loose hope
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>>12236961
you've had it on your dick??
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>>12237017
>women are disgusted by me.
Gee, I can't imagine why that might be the case.
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>>12237017
Holy martyr
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>>12237017
Sounds like a (you) problem. Take up trainspotting, do some exercise, go on hikes there are plenty things for an uggo to do
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>>12236831
>boring game sucks
>gets hyped up as a "fun hidden gem, actually"
>game finally gets released in a proper, living language
>turns out the game is boring and sucks, actually
Yeah. This game's entire reputation in the west was born from a retarded motherfucker who got famous and praised the game despite never actually playing it himself.
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>>12237017
abloo bloo bloo
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>>12236982
Not all artsy games are gay preachy bullshit like Moon though, LSD literally advertised itself as "Not a game" yet its simply telling you "Come look at these crazy mind boggling psx effects and have fun" not "play my tedious shitty game so I can tell you why games are le bad"
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Nintendrones get filtered by this masterpiece and call it tedious jank but when Majora's Mask has the exact same gameplay loop but worse, they praise it as a stroke of genius and invent countless schizo headcanon theories about the story. Though not like western insects actually played this game anyway, otherwise they would have called out toby fox by now for his blatant wholesale ripoff of it.
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>>12237395
>LSD
>crazy mind boggling psx effects
Pick one. 95% of the "crazy Xtreme effects" are simply changing textures.
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No you don't get it it's le avant garde masterpiece, Osamu Sato for the heckin win
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>>12237412
I mean the oginal magazine the phrase is from called two cartoon skeletons "mind boggling effects."
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>>12237443
It's from 1994

1998 you have stuff like MGS,Crash bandicoot 3 or Spyro on PS1
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>>12237453
What I mean it's that the game is telling you, go look at the crazy dream stuff and it's not trying to sell you some stupid message.
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Bravo Kojima
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>>12237017
The game was made for children not man-children you probably work a job so you do "touch grass" idiot.
>>12236831
Anyways the ending is the least interesting part of the game. The best part is the world taking your typical would-be rpg hero at face value. A menace running around braking shit and murder hoboing. That part was actually interesting. But most people get caught up in the pretentious ending because it makes them feel smart.
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>>12237598
Anon...do you realize children go to school?
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>>12237017
Anons will shit on you, but everybody here is in the same situation
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>>12237598
Knowing how the Japanese market works, it was probably made for manchildren
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>>12237603
They don't have summer break in japan? That's fucked up if true.
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Well if they don't have summer break in nippon nipple land then the ending is stupid. You can use your free time however you want.
>um actually no you can't you're obligated to go outside into the concrete jungle of Tokyo and play in an alleyway with the chinese migrants selling china-man goods (I saw a Jackie Chan movie about that).
Well fuck you Moon devs I know some japs live in the country side but what about all those kids living in those cuck pod apartments? (saw that on youtube) AND no summer break? Actual psycho country fucking weebs are fucking insane no wonder suicide rates are so high over there.
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>>12237327
This nigger said to go look at trains lmao
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Many 90s games would tell you to go the fuck outside/do something else after clearing them, then people started getting offended over being exposed for their sedentary loser shut-in lifestyle and now everything has to coddle the shut-ins
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Shut the hell up, Goldblum.
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>>12237672
Oh no no no… Amigasisters how do we respond?
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>the virgin 90's, please take a break and touch grass ending
>the chad 80's, now do it again bitch ending
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>>12237710

It's one thing for a 30-minute arcade game to demand you play it again, it's another thing for a 25-hour RPG to do it
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I've bought and played LdL/Onion Games' stuff for years now and each time I play I say "man, this game is ALMOST good..." it's like Kimura et al. get soooo close to making a great game but fumble in some horrible way.

In most cases it's because the game gets to a point where you need to perform split second actions in random, non-telegraphed spots in a way the game has not taught you up to that point, in order to trigger an event flag to finally progress the story (that fucking ufo hunt in Chulip...). This is where I, without a guide, give up.

I enjoyed and beat Moon, Chulip*, Little King's Story (not quite them, but it's their best game lol), Contact... and even more recent stuff like Black Bird (pretty good actually), Brave Hero Yamada, and now Stray Children. I'm a really glutton for punishment I guess.

(Ugh stray children, you were so close!!)

>>12237598
Do you think the original cut ending was better? I like how elements of it made its way to Stray Children.

*did not beat this
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>>12237017
you're not wrong, merely going outside is not enough for most people. there's actually a pretty good lesson i learned from a game once, that being that you should take the lessons you've learned from games and their characters/stories to heart for real life. just because you're engaging with fiction doesn't mean what you're learning isn't real y'know.
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>>12237756

Skip and Vanpool made infinitely more enjoyable games. Love de Lic's own roster is just "interesting," and Onion is badly overrated because it's "charming."
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>>12237327
>go on hikes
if I had trails, mountains or parks within 200 miles of me, sure Id actually love to. I do not.
>do some exercise
I have a physically demanding job, I get plenty
>trainspotting
even more autistic and pointless than videogames
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>>12237017
just make your own wife bro
>b-but aon that's... just a doll on a roomba...
so? better than your body pillow no doubt
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>>12236958
Ummm...no, actually it's a personal attack against me specifically.
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How many "little boy has to rescue 50 souls in cryptic minigames" type games did these guys make??
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>>12236831
>don't le play my game!
>feel le guilty for playing my game!
cringe
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>>12238178

That's not even remotely the same statement, are you retarded?
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>>12238250
You literally said "stop playing videogames" is the message.
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>>12238258

>You've finished the game, now go do something else

>Do NOT play the game, feel BAD for playing the game

You are part of the reading comprehension crisis.
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>>12236836
what about a better game that's also made by someone who doesn't even like video games?
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>>12238274
>You've finished the game, now go do something else
Most patronizing bitch made preachy faggot message imaginable. My immediate reaction is pic related.
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>>12238284
Based, now this is real punk
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>>12238250
most people who whine about "pretentiousness" in stories are. nine times out of ten, what they're actually complaining about is having to read something more slightly complex than they're used to.
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>>12238284

Very cool and transgressive, I'm sure the 30-year old dev team and your parents are impressed
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>>12238281
At least he is honest about it instead of pretentious
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>>12238284
>tumblr
>industry plants against the machine
you have to go back
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>>12238284

The facts are that you're too retarded to read at a sixth-grade level and the notion of dealing with that terrifies you
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>>12238319
What? He is just calling out the bullshit
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>>12238319
>You've finished the game, now go do something else
I'm sorry did I misquote you? You have to be underage to not be disgusted by such a preachy and cringe message.
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>>12238352

You would have to be an illiterate manchild to be shocked into disgust by such a basic, trite, and widely-used message. Normal people don't need to go on tirades because the Care Bears said sharing is good.
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>>12237412
>>12237453
Retard
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>>12236987
It was the influence on Undertale's pacifist shtick which has since been copied by a dozen succesful indie games in the last decade like Psychopomp
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>>12238391
The care bears are not pretentious about it though
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>>12237017
>am I supposed to go walk around the neighborhood doing nothing?
it worked for us kids in the 90s

why can't you go make your own fun with someone outside?
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>>12238436

Moon is a game for kids. I guess you think Pixar movies and The Little Prince are also pretentious whenever they're not completely braindead toy commercials.
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>>12238458
doesn't exactly work when everyone else is inside too. or when you're not a kid, for that matter.
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>>12238459
Children crap can be pretentious too you know
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>>12237408
rent free
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>>12238460

>You finished the game. You should go outside now :)
>ok I will go outside
>
>now what
>Uhh I meant in a more figurative sense, you should go out, socialize, live your life, make connections, seize the day, don't retreat into the facile escapism of fantasy RPGs forever
>ohhhhh. Well fuck that
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>>12238458
yeah let me go outside and ask random strangers to play with me and see how long it takes to get arrested.
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>>12238480
yeah i know all that, but saying that and saying you should act like an 8 year old in public are two different things.
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>>12237036
>moon RPG on the 'eck
:sob:
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>>12238258
You haven't even played the game, you wanna whine about shit you now nothing about you retard
>>12238289
facts
>>12238335
samefag
>>12238352
is it preachy to say that people shouldn't spend all of their free time playing videogames?
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>>12236831
Now with cheap retro handhelds being a thing, everybody can touch grass and play video games at the same time.
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>>12239215
It is when your medium to say so is a pretentious videogame
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>>12237017
Skill issue.
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>>12238420
>undertale invented pacifist runs
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>>12237395
LSD is a cool game, not one I’d sit and play for hours on end, but definitely worth checking out imo for anyone who hasn’t. It IS a walking sim but the atmosphere or whatever is interesting (or at least unique). Idk if you can even beat it, I’ve never tried or cared enough to look it up though
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>>12236831
that was a translation error
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>>12238284
Ah yes. Raging against the very machine that pays your livelihood. Very rebellious.
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>>12236831
>touch grass
i could do that ingame when i still had my "going into games" machine
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>>12238459
Toy Story isn't pretentious if taken at face value. CheckM8.
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>>12240432
smelled like shit tho
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Imagine being a 35 y/o man playing japanese kid's toys, and becoming furiously seething at the simple message the game tries to teach (ie. don't grow up to become a manchild)
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>>12236831
>Stop playing video games and touch grass.
Said the writer sipping his wine in his comfy chair while the programers toil away day and night sleeping under their computer eating from vending machines. Hmph!
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>>12236831
Where do you get grass from this, or any kind of statement? It's a green background that looks like fake turf and the message "fake<->real" which gives no suggestion of partiality to either.
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>>12240448
This image is eternal
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>>12239560
I never liked yume nikki which seems analogous to lsd so I never tried it outside of a few youchoob videos.

Moon is kind of a dreamy walking Sim type but there's a little more structure and goals to orient yourself with so it was more palatable to me. Apples to oranges, I know.
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>>12236831
This game and Mother 3 are both some of my favorite games of all time, fuck the haters
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>>12240712
Redditcore
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LSD contains a rape confession from one of the devs. No I will not elaborate.
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>>12240838
Someone elaborate
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>>12239215
>is it preachy to say that people shouldn't spend all of their free time playing videogames?
Yes it is you fucking MORON, especially if it's coming from a fucking videogame itself. Take your preachy worthless message and shove it in your cunt.
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>>12241387
so 90s psas on tv telling kids to not sit so close to the tv and occasionally play some sports are preachy? maybe you're just stupid, ever think of that. oh sorry, i must be preaching to you about your intelligence or something.
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sameposting really needs to be banned
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>>12241397
>so 90s psas on tv telling kids to not sit so close to the tv and occasionally play some sports are preachy?
I agree moon isn't preachy, but the example here is literally preaching.
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>>12240838
You should elaborate
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>>12236958
Most people are unfortunately awful energy vampires though. It's actually insane how almost every time in my life where I've tried to genuinely help somebody, giving it my all and expecting absolutely nothing in return, it has backfired on me in comedically stupendous ways, physically, mentally, financially, and the tunnel vision NPC golems can't even stop for a second and have any sort of self reflection or introspection whatsoever, just "OK BUT WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO FOR ME" or "how can I browbeat, gaslight, guilt trip to my advantage even more" I hate this fucking world man

Video games
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>>12237408
>Nintendo out of nowhere
Also this was released on Switch
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>>12242263
The fact that you chose to write this big rant completely unprompted about how much of a hero you are and how evil everyone else is leads me to believe that you are the problem
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>>12241397
Yes they are extremely peachy. Imagine being an adult and finding a shred of value in that utterly worthless slop.
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cry harder
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>>12242263
Well I understand you're upset with the world but I don't think a keyboard warpath was the way to go about explaining it.
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>>12239546
I didn't say that. Undertale did popularize making pacificist routes the good ending and making you feel like a genocidal maniac for actually using a game's combat system.
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>>12242605
name five other games that do that aside from deltarune. actually i don't even think deltarune does that, at least it didn't in the first chapter which is the only one i've played but whatever that's not the point.
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>>12240838
>No I will not elaborate.
Why not? Is it because the entirety of any elaboration would be "cause i watched a youtube"?
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>>12242801
No
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>>12242605
Iji did that before Homestuck even started, nevermind Toby Fox living in Hussie's basement.



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