Why don't they have a legacy despite being older than Nintendo and Sega? Where are all the classics Atari franchises?
anon they still make video games
>despite being older than Nintendo and Sega?Well, you answered yourself. This board is allergic to anything older than NES.
>>12251238They do have a legacy, it's just not as big as Nintendo or Sega. I'm a huge Atari fan (I don't know what my derogatory fan name would be, help me out) but they royally fucked up during the Warner days with a bunch of shitty business decisions, then Tramiel fucked it up even more. Despite that, they're still what most people think of when they imagine retro games. You hear Pac-Man on the 2600 in the background when a TV show needs a fake videogame, the Fuji logo is a big pop culture thing, probably due to Blade Runner, and their arcade games are regarded as classics by the majority of people.>>12251246This too
They weren't around when it mattered (5th gen)
>>12251258>I don't know what my derogatory fan name would be, help me outAtaretard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UXx5e3ugT4>I have a Russian and a Yankee>Inside my room>Gambling for my shoes>And my graduation photo>On an Atari
>>12251296I'll take it
>>12251258>pac manNamco IP
Atari fucked themselves over by making computers and consoles their legacy instead of their arcade games.
>>12251238Because they made western slopJapan kick their asses in every way when it came to short arcade style gamesTheir best game was missile commandAlso holy shit these catpchas are going ot filter everyone with an IQ under 100, if that was the intent bravo
>>12251238>I live in a bubble>Everyone I talk videogames with is born after the 1995>Wtf how come people in my circles don't discuss Atari?
>>122513242600 port was developed by Atari
>>12251334I don't get it, is the new captcha supposed to be hard or something?
>>12251238What are the "classic Sega franchises"?There's basically only one classic Sega franchise with mainstream recognition and that's Sonic.Also, "Sega" as a company name outlasted Atari by two decades. In other words the Sega IPs are still owned by a company named Sega, where the Atari wound up sold off and folded into other companies. So Altered Beast for PS2 gets the blue SEGA logo while Gauntlet: Seven Sorrows also for PS2 is credited to Midway, not Atari, even though Gauntlet was originally an Atari franchise
>>12251329That's largely due to A) the console crash and nationwide move to home computers and B) Atari being split up into multiple pieces during the disastrous sell-off>>12251358NTA but it's filtering me by being incredibly buggy, like giving me "verif. not required" and then saying "no captcha found" and shit.
>despite being older than Nintendo and Sega>Nintendo: founded in 1889>Sega: founded in 1960>Atari: founded in 1972
>>12251334>Also holy shit these catpchas are going ot filter everyone with an IQ under 100Dunno. So far the only confirmed as being filtered is under 60, >>12251436
>>12251460Yamaha is older than Harley-Davidson but Yamaha only started making motorcycles after Harley-Davidson.
Atari's shit is mostly so old that it predates the concept of video game franchises. Asteroids. Centepide, Missle Command, and are more about the most fundamental concepts in gaming, like the joystick with buttons. A bunch of their other shit was done in partnerships, and with atari gone, they other partner stands alone like Tetris and Pole Position.They have a LOT of really fucking cool shit over the decades, even before they went weird with becoming a hat for infrogrames.Marble MadnessPaperboy720Primal RageGauntletSF rushCyberballAPBSuper SprintStar Wars.>>12251258>>12251296My first instinct is ataranai. Atard for short might work?
I propose Ataritard
>>12251372Phantasy StarShinobiStreets of RageGolden AxeAlex KiddShining ForceSpace Harrier Sega has many classic franchises besides Sonic
>>12251238Atari hasn't been relevant as a brand in the gaming industry since 1985. They spent the remainder of the 80's trying to sell obsolete hardware like the 7800 and the ancient 2600 to scrape together what little market share they could from Nintendo and Sega. The Lynx was a cool piece of tech but it flopped hard against the Gameboy. The Jaguar never had a chance. Atari effectively died there, it's just a name now that gets thrown around now to sell the occasional compilation or game.
>>12251648None of those are Sonic tier. The point is that you can take those second-tier sega franchises and look at the Atari franchises and see similar performance. Space Harrier? That franchise is no less dead than Gauntlet.
>>12251258>atardi
>>12251648alex kidd and space harrier are really pushing it, anon.
>>12251780Space Harrier was a popular game and got ported to a ton of systems in it's day. Alex Kidd was more niche, but he was the face of Sega before Sonic showed up.
>>12251814Yeah but they are both dead franchises nobody cares about in 2025 outside enthusiasts.And that's WITH Sega's brand surviving in a way that Atari's did not.
>>12251820>normalfags don't care about them so they don't count
>>12251648Don't forget Virtua Fighter
>>12251648not to mention yakuza, shenmue, virtua fighter, jet set radio, panzer dragoon, sega rally, crazy taxi, super monkey ball. sega has a lot
>>12251491Man Atari was honestly really cool for having games be really simplistic like this. I miss this sorta radical simplicity. Though sometimes this can still be a thing I guess. Like fortnite is literally, build a fort and survive the night
>>12251827The point is the comparison to Atari, greentexting tard. When you actually compare like to like, Sega is not as far ahead as NORMALFAGS who only know about Sonic would have you believe.
>>12251238Partly because they fractured into different companies barely related to each other (Atari Games was third party software only, Atari Corp. was the hardware only) and both faded into obscurity instead (Atari Games multiple buyouts) or crash miserably (Atari Corp. and Jaguar).Only until recently is there anything being done trying to tie it all back together for what games AND hardware is actually made by Atari.
>>12251881>Like fortnite is literally, build a fort and survive the nightI think you mean Minecraft
>>12251881>fortnite>build a fort and survive the nightbro wut lol
>>12251986No that's the one about laying antipersonnel weapons in the pottery barn
because this brand has been passed around like a cheap whore
>>12251334I am finding the new captchas great, much faster than the old crap, i am even having funnposting again
As a Zoomer, I find the Atari 2600 cool, it was my father's main console, so he downloaded an emulator on our old XP computer, but after my cousin installed ZSNES, it was hard to go back.
>>12252594Old Atari games have their place. I kinda like sometimes having games you can pop in and play and get the full experience in under 5 minutes.
>>12251238>Why don't they have a legacy despite being older than Nintendo and Sega?their legacy is massive, well recognized and you might just have severe down syndrome or profound levels of retardation
>>12252594>as a zoomcuck, I can't view literally fucking anything without generationautismYeah.
>>12251238Because the good games from Atari consoles were all made by Activision
>>12251238Underaged fucking twat.
>>12252843Seconded
>>12251238>make a bunch of shit far too antiquated for 99% of people to appreciate in the future>near-singlehandedly crash the american games market>crawl through what remains of their time in the console war before nostalgiabaiting foreverwhat would it even be
>>12251246tbf the jump between the nes and what came prior is absolutely massive. Loads of nes games still look and play 'good' nowadays but the second gen and below feels like cave paintings in comparison
Ah, the days when you saw "Activision" on the box and got all excited
Atari screwed itself up with shitty management.
It's sad how the modern gamer only functions in terms of "franchises". All modern gaming does are sequels and retreads and remakes so they think this is all there is to it.
>>12253012>>12252809Xbox has an app on Gamepass now that has a lot of the old Activision 2600 games. Most of them are still pretty fun to play for a few minutes anyway
>>12253035I'd say it's less of a thing now. It used to be the case that the same console generation would have a bunch of Mega Man games, a bunch of Final Fantasies, a bunch of Castlevanias and more. Nowadays people are either playing eternal live service games or flavor of the month games that are gonna be forgotten when the next comes out. Big franchises take so long in between releases nowadays that they fall out of the mainstream.
>>12252978>watch a youtube>say words from youtube>get (You)sThe attention you so desperatly whore for isn't always good.
>>12251491>Atari's shit is mostly so old that it predates the concept of video game franchises. Asteroids. Centepide, Missle Command, and are more about the most fundamental concepts in gaming, like the joystick with buttons. Pretty much this. Their games are like the cave art of videogames. You can see the beginnings of ideas in there.
>>12253197That is such a wonderful game, any version. It has a super positive vibe to it.
>>12253621True but to be fair there's not a huge difference between those games and games like Donkey Kong and the original Mario Brothers.The notable difference is how Nintendo (ripped off or not) seemed to care more about distinctive characters. (Namco's Pac-Man was also distinctive).Meanwhile Pitfall Harry is just a generic, nondescript person. If you sketch Mario or Pac-Man out of context, they're instantly recognizable. If you sketch Pitfall Harry, nobody will have any idea who it is unless you draw him swinging on a rope over a crocodile-infested pool of water.Missile Command had no memorable characters at all, except the comms chick on the cover art.Some games had some distinctive enemies (Centipede, Space Invaders, etc). But otherwise there were lots of generic spaceships.
>>12253034>Atari screwed itself up with shitty management.This, but more specifically they treated star programmers like trash, so their top talent jumped ship the moment Atari had credible competitors to work for. This prevented them from cultivating a first party lineup like Nintendo or Sega. Execs didn't understand or respect programming, treated their programmers like interchangeable, disposable units & often didn't buy source code for porting projects, instructing the programmer (often one guy for each port) to just eyeball it.
7800 (with Euro CX78 gamepad) was every bit the worthy NES competitor had a lawsuit not delayed full launch from '84 to '86. The hardware was plenty capable, it just looks crunchier because of lower resolution in the most commonly used video mode. Problem was Atari was mentally stuck in the 70s arcade ports mindset & should've been watching the type of games coming out of Japan to get a feel for what the next generation wanted. Sega had the same problem of over-focusing on arcade ports.
>>12252985>tbf the jump between the nes and what came prior is absolutely massive.Never seen the colecovision, huh? The 2600 basically dominated two generations of consoles and they get commonly consolidated as one generation now.
>>12251238They do have a legacy...
>>12251241no they don't. they dissolved decades ago and the name alone has been traded around different companies.
>>12252742>implying boomers on /vr/ arent the ones with zoomers living rent free on their headslmao
>>12253943>7800 Still used the same shitty sound chip as the 2600.
Atari probably has the best logo of all timet. Graphic designer
>>12254548It's a quality logo
>>12253897>>12253621Right. Naming and branding and the idea of a franchise or iconic character is part of it.Check out this old 1970's basketball game. Trac ball. Literally called "basketball".
Post undderrated atari games.
>>12253621>cave art of video gamesAbsolutely retarded take. The Atari 2600 had more complex games on it than the NES. Space Shuttle: A Journey Into Space and Tomcat: The F-14 were both pretty advanced simulations.
>>12254552>>12254548It's a dick penetrating a vagina. Because Atari fucks the competition.
>>12251238>>12251246NES and PC were the first systems that made games as an artform. Atari games are toys.
>>12254734>as an artformGAAAAAAAAAAY
>>12254734gay and redditpilled
>>12251238>They will never live down the failure of E.T. the Extra Testicle and the Atari 5200>Basically gave up and left the console market for about a year before the NES came out and they responded by halfheartedly releasing the Atari 7800 which already had outdated hardware, very little third-party support, and a poorly designed joystick controller unless you were lucky enough to be a Eurochad>Brand confusion caused by splitting the arcade division and console division into separate companies that were barely involved with each other despite using the same name and logo>Atari Lynx was a cool and very ambitious handheld console but it had several major disadvantages to the GameBoy that kept it from being very successful>Atari Jaguar just floundered and basically sunk the company because the hardware was too complicated for most devs to really take advantage of and the PS1 and Saturn BTFO its hardware capabilities while playing CD's out of the box without having to buy an expensive add-on>NuAtari is just Infogrames rebranded wearing Atari's corpse as a skinsuit and profiting off boomer nostalgia but Atari never had the autistic devoted cult fanbase that Nintendo had
>>12254518>I can't believe that this 50+ year old company isn't composed of the exact same people it was 50 years ago!>the games they're making now don't count!
>>12251238Because the actual Atari died ages, and its corpse was split into multiple pieces that were then eventually reassembled by the worst bunch that could've grabbed onto the name, and for the past 20 years they mostly did nothing but try to exploit the fuck out of it. It says a lot that the only good business decision that they did was to stop trying to do anything and just release a new version of the Atari 2600 that they make repro and homebrew carts for.
>>12253197I like the mod for Unreal
>>12255039>the hardware was too complicated for most devs to really take advantage of the hardware was flawed and should have never been released. i think the people that engineered it tested how it would work if you used just one cpu at a time and didn't think of how you'd interact with multiple cpus at the same time sharing memory. this ended up giving a programmer massive performance penalties. it's fucking comical that nobody saw this as a problem until machines landed in the laps of developers trying to make games for this thing. also it's not like atari designed the hardware either, they bought a work in progress project from a bunch of british faggots.
>>12254756>>12254773Sorry. Facts don't care about your feelings.
>>12251238>fuck over your own devs so hard they form Activision
>>12251238What the fuck did it have that wasn't better on arcades? Yar's Revenge?
