What's your favorite bit of made-up-in-localization bullshit?For me, Sonic 2's Roaming Romans certainly springs to mind.
Mario being a “plumber”. Western insects saw him going through pipes and their childish monkey brains said “oh he must be plumber! Pipes=plumber!” No one in Japan ever called him that until fairly recently since Nintendo was forced to acknowledge western headcanon to appease the insects (similar situation as the Zelda “timeline”.) His actual canon job is carpenter, from Donkey Kong.
>>12253207What are you talking about? Have you never seen Mario Bros. the arcade game? SM is Shigeru Miyamoto, in case that wasn't obvious.
Samus and Reiko Nagase must le trans because western vidya mags said so
>>12253307Reiko is trans because the first image I ever saw of her online gave her a cock that dangled to her calves and had a sleeve that matched her boots.
>>12253207Mario is a Racecar Driver.
>>12253153>Roaming Romans infest a beautiful forest and sunken lake. Explore an intricate maze. If you're underwater, breathe the air bubbles to keep from drowning. A countdown begins when your oxygen's running out. What the hell does this mean? Are they talking about the badniks?
The entire Skies of Arcadia translationhttps://esoarcadia.fandom.com/wiki/Article:Klayton_Vorlick_Interview_(2015-04-13)>I did a rough translation of the text, and then threw away the Japanese text. We mapped out the big story beats in each scene, and then just watched the cutscenes and ad-libbed what we imagined each character would say, and then rewrote a lot of the dialog completely.
Wouldn't say localisation, but I always found funny how hard the US tried to turn Street Fighter II into the new G.I Joe.
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>>12253323>the localization is good chud stop calling it fanfiction!>the localization in question
>>12253319It means americans and their retarded ass bullshit culture of saturday morning cartoons
>>12253305>loaded question >western magazine >2009 interview Be less retarded next time.
>>12253153The one wheeled robot enemies in TMNT (taken from the cartoon) had no name, only being known as "unicycle robots". When the TMNT arcade game was adapted to the NES, the manual decided to invent the name "Roadkill Rodney" for them. After this, "Roadkill Rodney" became the defacto name for the things across all media, to the point that design documents for the later TMNT games ALSO started calling things that.
>>12253207>donkey kongthat's jumpman, mario's grandpa
>>12253207you will never be japanese
>>12253338>look at this outlier! every trannylation is like this!
>>12253323does a retranslation exist yet
>>12253207Mario being a carpenter is western fan fiction. Find a single early 80s Japanese language source that explicitly refers to him as a carpenter (you can't).
>>12253398Nope>The two were influenced by the work of Joss Whedon, adding many dry, sarcastic responses to the dialogue that had been more straightforward exchanges in the original Japanese script.[22] Many side characters and weapons were renamed after members of the localization and quality assurance team
>>12253319They appear in one of the official Sonic novel books. They are not human, and aren't badniks, they are mobius anthropomorphic beings with Roman armors.
>>12253207>His actual canon job is carpenter, from Donkey KongHe has no single canon job. Mario is supposed to be a blue-collar who takes any job
>>12253153Sonic 3 having such glitchy stage geometry that it's possible to get stuck in walls. The manual tries to claim they're intentional parts of the game as traps set by Robotnik.
>>12253450That's... hilarious, I don't know why the other anon is bursting a vein about it
>>12253153rayman is ancap according to the finnish manual
>>12253318He drove so goddamn fast.Never did win no checkered flags,but he never did come in last.
>>12253648Some people are so uninteresting and lacking in personality and have so little going on in their lives that they make sacred cows out of the video games they play.
>>12253207excuse me he's clearly a doctor
Mario is a magician
The story in the manual of the Famicom/NES port of City Connection is easily my favorite example of this. In the Japanese version, you play as a young Californian girl named Clarice. She is a speed freak and is causing trouble on the world's highways, prompting the police to chase her. That's the whole story. In the North American version, they changed all the graphics of the girl to a dude, so they had to rewrite the plot in the manual. This is what they came up with.On a somewhat related note, the editor for this game's Japanese Wikipedia article made up a bunch a bullshit about Clarice traveling the world's highways looking for a boyfriend, and the police being after her for underage driving since she's only 15. Zero source for this anywhere. They just made it up. The Wikipedia article was then used as a source for a 2016 book called Nostalgic Famicom Perfect Guide. This book was then retroactively added as a citation for the story segment of the Wikipedia page, creating a circular reference. Then, when the game got a digital rerelease on the PS4, the store page lazily grabbed the story from the Wikipedia article, "canonizing" it within an official release.
>>12253490When was the last time we've seen him do anything that wasn't plumbing?
>>12253890When was the last time we've seen him do actual plumbing?
>>12253901in the new movie he fixed a lady's sink
>>12253902The movies are basically an alternate universe and stuff that happens in them don't really countSame thing with the Sonic movies
>>12253901they actually do plumbing on some of the Mario & Luigi games
>>12253153Bonanza Bros. The localizers REALLY didn't want to be pushing the idea that you were playing thieves breaking into homes and casinos to steal everything, so the manuals claimed that the brothers were undercover cops who were testing security systems and gathering evidence.
>>12253901Opening cutscene of super mario 3d world I believe.
>>12253153Cammy being Bison's ex-lover.https://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/b/ssf2cam.htm
>>12253207The human weeb. Truly the lowliest creature on God's green Earth.
>>12253979Which still makes more sense to me than Cammy being part of a weird-ass cloning project so Bison can be a hot chick.
>>12253993Yeah, I consider SFA3 to be non-canon.
>>12253328How grand is his prick?
>>12253901When you beat the game, he lays down pipe
>>12253153The "leap of faith" in FF6. Now we're to believe that chucking yourself off a cliff is a form of therapy or entertainment lol
ALttP had a number of flourishes added to it's backstory in the manual, including Ganondorf's surname being Dragmire and his full name after transforming being Mandrag Ganon. Doesn't change anything, but it's still NoA making shit up out of whole cloth just to make the villain sound a bit more interesting.
>>12253449Joss Weadon was never good, (no sarcasm)
>>12253846>This is what happens when people are lazy retards.
>>12253890>wrecking crew>punch out>donkey kong>tennis>assembly line worker in the original Game and Watch gameHe's supposed to be generic hardworking New York man, namely as an excuse to re-use his design for any game where it was applicable so they didn't have to design a new character (which if I recall is the sole reason he was created to begin with).
>>12254285>He's supposedHe WAS supposed
In the original Japanese he just says, "Kuso!" The English dialogue is much more colorful and fun to read.
>>12254312Is he the son of an ancient submariner?'cause that does tie into both versions of IV a little...
>>12254312Nah I'm pretty sure he also says "HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII". Which is far more colorful and fun to read.
>>12253648Because it's a japanese series so you end in this situation where you're tricked thinking something non-canon is canon. Think about all the people who anticipated the sequel to Fusion to be about a wanted fugitive Samus vs the Federation. But in the ends that's a translation snafu that never gets followed up on because the people who actual control the series don't know and generally don't care about the translation exclusive lore. Your basically being lied to, and for long-running series it can cause problems.
>>12254208>"Let's make his name more appealing to Americans">GanRuPaul Manindrag
>>12253207Why would Mario and Luigi be fucking around in a sewer full of pipes if they were carpenters. This is before they ever went inside the pipes btw.
>>12253846>>12254267Oh people are lazy when they think all the information they need is just lying around on the internet for them to stitch together. It's the type of thing you expect out of shitty "localization" romhacks, but "professionals" do it too. Pic is an example that causes a continuity mess in the Blaster Master Zero trilogy, although I think they looked up StrategyWiki or Fandom/Wikia. Even big companies like Nintendo do this, but they're usually competent at covering their tracks.
>>12255294The one that hurt me the most was Kid Icarus Uprising's english localization making an entire thing about explaining away a fucking typo from the NES's game manual for one boss.
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>>12255256Don't ask me. I didn't write the story.
>>12255256>Why would Mario and Luigi be fucking around in a sewer full of pipes if they wereAre hobbies illegal?
>>12255392Thats a mistranslation.
>>12255556That seems unlikely considering this text is not a translation.
>>12255567Most "localization" wouldn't count as translation. What your point?
>>12255794What? What are you talking about? Anon said "Mario the carpenter" is a mistranslation. I said it can't be because the text is not a translation of anything. That's a scan of an Atari 2600 manual. It was originally written in English. As far I can tell, it doesn't even have a Japanese counterpart. There can't be a mistranslation in text that isn't a translation.
>>12255808>There can't be a mistranslation in text that isn't a translation.This would apply to too many games.
>>12255823There is no such thing as too many games made in the homeland. Foreign competition is bad for the local economy.
>>12255808They mistranslated the datasheet they had on mario's character.
>>12255392Mario famously collects wafers.
>>12253153The manual X4 has a directive for Dr. Cain, explaining that Repliforce was created to support the Maverick Hunters only to prove ineffectual. The Japanese manual instead portrays them as focusing on large-scale disasters and getting along well with the Maverick Hunters. Mega Man in general has a bunch of differences.If we're talking from an amusement angle, then probably anything Konami and SNK USA wrote because they were on some shit. Like this excerpt from the GB version of Gradius/"Nemesis":>As chief of the Interplanetary Police, you thought you put evil King Nemesis behind bars for good. But, fresh out of the Solar Slammer on a technicality, he's just put a billion dollar bounty on your head. And now his heinous horde of henchmen are looking to make some quick cash.>But you've got more than a six-zapper up your sleeve. You've got the Proteus 911, the most technologically sophisticated flying machine of death ever invented.>So strap yourself into this unmarked, pressure-cooking starfighter. Power-up your arsenal with land-blasting lasers, mauling missiles and duel devices of destruction. Then blast the King's five brain-draining levels, including the Sacrificial Sarcophagus of Saturn.>And keep wailing away until the King and his fools learn that crime doesn't pay.
>>12253207>>12253431Both him being a carpenter and plumber are western inventions.With that said, Miyamoto adopted both carpenter and plumber lore pretty quickly, though carpenter was adopted first. He has no problem adopting western localization shit. He adopts the plumber lore fully in a 1994 Donkey Kong japanese only gameboy interviewThat said it's funny to read back on NOM and apparently the push to make Mario a plumber actually came from the movie, as they expressed confusion:https://web.archive.org/web/20040603141554/http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nom/9908/profile/index.html
Wario "practicing being mean", Wario even knowing the Golden Statue is in the image of Princess Peach Toadstool, Wario's primary motivation is to steal it, and Wario wanting to ransom it are all localization inventions.
>>12255808Wait a second... this is what the entire thread and OP is about. Made up shit like this. Gotcha retard.
>>12256258Its not that they're western inventions. That was the idea all along. It's just that they didn't explicitly write it anywhere because it goes without saying. Apparently no one in this thread understands the concept of visual story telling. Do you all think the overalled Mario is hanging around in unfinished scaffolding, a cement factory, and a sewer system for fun? Or is he supposed to be an abstraction of the working everyman doing various jobs?>>12256278Nah. Atari programmers made the port. It's their video game. They get to make the lore. If it was the NES version's manual, I'd concede. But it's not, so you're the retard.
>>12256450They call him Atario because he's Atari Mario.
>>12253745kekd
>>12256507Actually, that's Coleco Mario (Colecario). Coleco made the Donkey Kong port. Mario Bros. was done in house by Atari, though.
>>12256450>Mario Bros. (Atari 2600) is not the same game as Mario Bros. (Arcade), so their fan fiction is not fan fiction.That's bullshit and you know it.
>>12256450>AtariThe same people who nonsensically turned "Ninja Gaiden" into a rank of honor?
