Who killed the Sega Saturn and why?
Being called Sega Saturn, or SS for short, customers often confused it with the Sega System, likewise SS. This hindered sales in the US of A.
Sega Lord X did. He tried to save it though.
I find it very unlikely that someone making a Saturn thread on /vr/ doesn't already know the history of its fall.
was it kalinske?
>>12255857Could a free kitchen knife in every box have saved the Saturn?
>>12255913It saved mine. The loading lid has been broken on mine for years and I have to use a knife or screwdriver to pop it open and change discs
>>12255857The Mega Drive flopping in Japan while being successful everywhere else is the true cause of Sega's downfall
>>12256001How?
Them better fmv intro and shit from blaystation saturn only know them real live resi actors or these pc gaems
>>12255857>Who killed the Sega Saturn and why?Sega by starting the development as a 2D console, then shoving a second SH-2 in at the last minute after seeing the PS1, making it an abomination that's shit at 3D and a pain in the ass to develop for>but muh 2DNo one cared. 3D is what people wanted in the mid to late 90s
Probably sony, for the money
>>12256008Not him but I think there's some partial truth to it. It's what started the infighting between Japan and America. If it were popular everywhere all branches would be on the same page. 32X would never be made, probably.But that wouldn't have stopped the surprise release of the Saturn outside of Japan and the difficulty programmers had with it, which are bigger issues I think
>>12255857Sabotaged by John Betamax who talked Mr Sega into not including a vhs player
>>12255857if we could find that out it would have saved the Saturn
>>12256096>32XYou think that's bad? The 32X was born from SoJ originally wanting to release a standalone Genesis 2 as a response to the Atari Jaguar
>>12255857I feel like SoJ took charge of everything Sega-related in the Saturn era. During the Genesis era SoA (Kalinske) had a lot of influence. Saturn feels more Japanese than American in terms of library.
>>12255908Leave that man alone. He suffered enough.
>>12255857Cheap ps1 ports.
>>12255857SOJ without a question but thanks to their based retard wisdom it truly was great in the end.
>>12256096It's funny, Sega did well everywhere except Japan basically, though the Master System did not sell well in the US. But Sega of Japan made all the decisions. Despite the fact it was Sega of America that really made the Genesis so successful in the US, they declined any input from SOA and made a console that was reasonably successful in Japan then failed everywhere else. To their defense and not-defense, the Saturn was unsalvageable from the beginning from a sales perspective, but that was due to a chain of subsequent failures by SOJ many emanating from the fact they didn't understand the console market and relied too heavily on the arcade division.
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Wasn't the evil company trying to nuke Sega on the final Segata Sanshiro commercial supposed to be Sony?
>>12255908Kalinske was against the Saturn and at the least he advised Sega of Japan to not rush the launch and build a solid launch lineup instead.
>>12256031This is exactly correct. It's all because SOJ did not understand the console market at all, at a crucial time.
>>12255857the saturn got btfo because the ps1 was better. it's really that simple.
>>12256383Saturn was actually better, but Sony paid publishers to do their shit for PS1.Not even a conspiracy, it's a known fact Sony paid for a multi-million ad campaign for FF7
>>12256395>wtf you can't publish other companies games that's not fair
>>12256395>Saturn was actually betterAt what? The only Saturn games that look better need the 4MB RAM cartridge
In 1996, on leave from my deployment in Okinawa, I walked into SoJ HQ in Shinagawa and naively asked to speak to Mr Sega. I was soon corrected on my misapprehension, but after waiting for a while I was ushered into the office of a senior exec who I later knew on our drinking binges as "Naka-kun". Not sure of his actual name or position. He seemed to take my opinions and advice seriously, particularly when I assured him that Nights was a kick-ass mascot and Sonic was no longer cool in the good ol' US of A and didn't need his own games anymore. I also advised that I wanted more lightgun games. Anyway, I doubt I had much of an impact but that was my sincere attempt to save the Saturn.
Sega killed the Saturn to make way for the Dreamcast.This is what people fail to comprehend these days with their generation number nonsense look at video games. People pit the Saturn against the PSX and the Dreamcast against 6th consoles. This is not what happened. The DC was already dead by the time the NGC and Xbox came out and it was only alive for a couple months afer the PS2 came out. Both the Saturn and Dreamcast main competition was the PSX, there is a reason why Sony went absolutely mad at BleemCast, because it was the direct competition, to compare it to something zoomers understand it was like being able to play Halo on PS2. This is also why the Dreamcast only has one analog stick.>PSX1994->2001>Saturn1994->1998>Dreamcast1998->2001If you want to look at Sega's output during "the PSX days", you must look at both the Saturn and the Dreamcast.
>>12255857The jews /thread Kys
>>12255857Sega themselves killed it.Why?Because they panicked over their competition and failed to craft a clear vision for the future after the Genesis/Mega Drive at the most pivotal moment, instead half-assing several experiments hoping one would stick, all of which failed including the Saturn and the 32X.
>>12256395>it's a known fact Sony paid for a multi-million ad campaign for FF7The gall to advertise a game on your system, they should've done it the Chad like the Saturn did and just dump them on stores without warning
Should've shot down the Saturn idea entirely and put Dreamcast on hold. Put all their arcade games on Sony effectively killing off Nintendo while pushing back against Namco's cheap copies like Tekken with Virtua Fighter and then stab Sony in the back with the new and improved Dreamcast in this alt timeline.
>>12256468Factually wrong.
>>12256701>The DC was already dead by the time the NGC and Xbox came out and it was only alive for a couple months afer the PS2 came outDefine "dead". The PS2 came out in March 2000 and it wasn't until January 2001 Sega announced Dreamcast production would end in March that year. But the Dreamcast didn't just immediately vanish from the market after that. They had a ton of stock to sell through and it was still in stores well into 2002 (which is when I bought the one I still own at Electronics Boutique). Game releases continued on for a while too. The final American release was NHL 2K2 in February 2002, but in Japan it had pretty much a full release schedule that year. Ikaruga came out in September 2002, and it really wasn't until the end of 2004 that software really dried up. Though the last official release was in 2007, meaning the Dreamcast actually lingered on into the PS3's lifecycle.
The answer is simplePS1 is cheaper,more powerfull and has an infinitely better library
Oh and Kalinske was a moron too He killed Sega with the 32x ,not wanting to release the Saturn in 1994 and the overproduction of Genesis games
>>12256910the saturn was already before it came out.it just wasn't powerful enough to run 3D multiplats, which were all the rage back then
>>12256916Even for 2D it was pretty bad
>>12256915Kalinske was against the 32x and the CD add-ons. Blame SoJ.
>>12256927The 32x was his idea because he didn't want to move on with the Saturn
>>12255857>2 controller portswtf were they thinking.. imagine how many systems 4-player Daytona USA would have sold.
>>12255868Does he suck Rouge’s bat tranny d?
>>12256917Nice cherrypick. Now let's compare games like Street Fighter Alpha 2 or Darkstalkers on Saturn Vs PS1. No, those do not use extra ram cart ;)
>>12255857No Sonic.
>>12257318the significantly better fillrate of the ps1 is better than the extra 500kb of ram that the saturn has. fighting games are really the only genre where that would be considered a bigger advantage
>>12257779>fighting games are really the only genre where that would be considered a bigger advantagePlay more Saturn games, snoy
>>12256701It all makes sense this could all be a 2 moar weeks thread but for sega it really was 2 more years thread
segays are by far the most autistic posters on /vr/
>>12256934was the saturn a good idea?
>>12257856A better idea than the 32x that's for sure
>>12255908>was it kalinske?"The Saturn is not our future" - Bernie Stolar - E3 1997Kalinske left Sega in late 1996, after the system bombed hard during the Holiday season.
>>12257856>was the saturn a good idea?Ken Kutaragi sure thought so.
The Saturn would have done better if it had a DVD drive and GTA3.
>>12256031Funny thing is sega's arcade division understood this with their 32x arcade board and model 1,2,and 3.
>>12258363>Kalinske left Sega in late 1996Kalinske was fired from Sega in late 1996 for being an incompetent hack
>>12255857>Who killed the Sega Saturn and why?FIFA 97psx release date: november 1996saturn release date: april 1997FIFA 98 ROAD TO THE WORLD CUPpsx release date: november 1997saturn release date: december 1997
>>12255857me
>>12256008It made them girl boss too close to the Sun
>>12255857It was too pure for this evil world. Qe didn't deserve it.
>>12255857Wal-Mart and EB because of the KB Toys exclusivity deal, they refused to stock any Sega products after that
>>12255869You watch your tone before I churn out ten times more "would ___ have saved the Saturn?" threads than I already do
>>12255857>Who killed the Sega Saturnoh, that's easy, i did.
Why did OP crop this photoshopped Saturn from Sega Edgelord X's video thumbnail?
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>>12256701First time I see someone point this truth out. The dreamcast was a response to the PS1 and N64 when in reality it needed to be a preemptive answer to the PS2
>>12260676The Dreamcast was more forward-thinking than the PS2 in a number of ways, including providing both online gaming and a second screen experience as standard. The PS2 had no online capabilities at launch. The network adapter didn't arrive until late 2002 in the US, three whole years after Dreamcast players were already enjoying online gaming. Even then hardly any games supported it. The Dreamcast port of Quake III had both online play and mouse + keyboard support. The PS2 version has neither.
