We call it the third gen but it might as well have been the first. >you're just nostalgic No, i'm not a nes kid not even a snes or genesis kid, didn't even play a single nes game during my childhood or saw one but after playing all retro consoles through emulation, gaming always felt like it started here.
>>12257662>after playing all retro consoles through emulationAs usual, you forgot computers and arcades.
Ok Scott the Woz
You didn't actually put any considerable research into this topic if this is your conclusion.
>>12257662I disagree.The first gen should've consisted entirely of consoles running on discreet logic without a CPU.The second gen should've been everything from the Fairchild Channel F all the way to the PC Engine, basically anything running an 8-bit CPU.
>>12257663Arcades and pcs are not consoles
>>12257662>you're just nostalgicNoone would ever call a zoomer who didnt grow up with the video games hes trying to insult "nostalgic", just ignorant.
>>12257662>it might as well have been the first. Idiotic statement by an idiot. Lurk moar.
>>12257662This reminds me that I should play some Atari. I'll probably start with River Raid and see where my heart takes me after that.
Uncomfortable truth but nobody ever discusses anything that came before the NES
>>12257662in terms of console generations yeah this is the first time there was anything seriously playable
>>12257662It's the first one that anyone still cares about today, yeah, but that goes without saying so why did you make this thread? Did you think some Atari fan in a nursing home would see it and get mad?
>>12257670Yeah except then OP says this:>gaming always felt like it started here.So scope is not arbitrarily limited to consoles, therefore one way or the other, it's a mistake.
>>12257916>seriously playableCan always tell zoomers because they don't know how to use words properly at all.
>>12257991He is right though
>>12257912>Uncomfortable truth but nobody ever discusses anything that came before the NESNot even contrarians can larp that they like that gen1/2 slop
>>12257912>Uncomfortable truth but nobody ever discusses anything that came before the NESSome Anon was making pre-NES threads and they were getting a decent amount of replies at first, but eventually they pretty much discussed everything and the last threads barely got 10 replies
Have you played Atari today?
>>12258049I only played atari in a ps2 collection and didn't really care
>>12257662i mean we just had a thread that concluded with everyone agreeing that atari had no legacy, is it really a surprise?
>>12258013He's not, and is abusing the word "playable".Plenty of Atari games are playable and even fun."Unplayable" doesn't just mean it doesn't have cutscenes and music."Unplayable" doesn't just mean there's some other game you think is better.
>>12257662Personally I HATE erasure of any games before 1985.
I completely ignore anyone who talks about "generations" of video games.
I'm too young for 70s and 80s vidya but I grew up on console ports and bootlegs of that vidya. They were some of my favourites even well into the 2000s. They also had a lot of influence on things I do like.I pity anyone who sees no merit in these games and question why they are on this board.>>12258057Probably the same cocksucking OP
>>12257662>We call it the third genNo "we" don't. Only ridiculous faggots give a shit about contrived console """generation""" bullshit.>No, i'm not a this that kid>i'm an emubabyexplains a lot
>>12257662i aint here to twist your gay little sissy girl twig arms into playing moonsweeper. you prolly dont even have what it takes to sweep moons in the first place. youre the kinda fag that cant even clear the first wave in defender. its hard to take someone like that even slightly serious. least of all when theyre trying to speak on an era of vidya they havent ever played
>>12257691river raid is so fucking good desui dont even understand how she made it that fun. there werent that many vertically scrolling shooters yet. its considerably more fun that a lot of the shooters that came out after it
OP's faggotry aside, only retards with the bad kind of autism pretend there are no identifiable console generations.
>>12258872"Generations" are something that mainly applies to 00's and after. Trying to apply it to previous the 80's and 90's is stupid. The PC-E and Megadrive's main competition was the Famicom for like half of their lives. The Dreamcast's main competition was the PSX for half of its life. The N64 came out 1 year and a half after PSX and Saturn, etc
>>12258874The goofiest thing to me is that Wikipedia says the SG-1000 is third gen and the ColecoVision is second gen, when they're the same fucking thing.
>>12257662Why is the Atari disrespect so common on /vr/ now?
>>12257670>Arcades and pcs are not consolesYou are correct, friend. But the Motorola 68K based PCs were doing in 1984 what the SNES/Sega Genesis would be doing 5 years later. And many popular games were just ports from this PC generation.
>>12258048I posted a fair bit as I do play gen 2 when cycling through gens. Generally just posted about what games I played though which never really gets post for any generation.
>>12257663>you forgotSauce? Just because someone didn't mention things you want to pseud about doesn't mean anything was forgotten.>arcadesuser is underage
>>12257662But it didn't start there did it, there was a whole evolution of games from arcades to bedroom programming that went on for 7 years before.
>>12259062Atari's legacy has diminished because it was only Gen X and older Millennials that have any direct experience with them. Atari was Nintendo before Nintendo in the home
>>12259067>the best 8bit console games were mostly amiga portsYou people are completely insane
>>12259062Atari was retarded and deserves disrespect to a point, but decades of opinionated Nintendo fanboy revisionism have been cemented into what's valuable and what's not valuable in retro gaming - e.g. anything before Super Mario Bros doesn't matter, every flop Nintendo made was actually brilliant (except VB), people were actually wrong and ignorant for not buying Gamecube and forming an identity around it, etc.Sadly it has created a lens that takes all the core features and options these games had, which are essentially the foundation that all games were built upon, and reduces them all into an equal sense of meaninglessness. >>12258883So are the Gamecube and Wii but they're in different gens nonetheless. It's totally arbitrary and only sometimes measured on power.
>>12257912They were before they let 6th gen bs in here.
>>12258819>eras of competing hardware were never a thing
>>12259236Indeed. It's a shame how online discoure is so Nintendo centered. In the same way Atari seems to get the short end of the stick, SEGA has been getting it too, just look at all the "Sonic was never good" talk.
>>12259206No you fucking retard I clearly said SNES/Genesis.The 16bit PC era was legitimately the same time as the 8 bit console era.The 8-bit PC era started in 1977.Nobody is insane you are just a zoomer retard.
>>12259404I agree to a point. Sega fanboys are a vocal and loud enough minority to reproduce (via autism) and hold their own, making Sonic romhacks and discussing how to go back in time and save the Saturn.In Nintendo fanboy lore, the Master System is in the same dustbin of irrelevancy that everything pre-NES is. Its whole library is passed over. Same for Game Gear.The Genesis is painted as some a sort of grift that was all-around worse than the SNES, but got temporarily success because they had more sports games (which are also in the same dustbin) and tricked people with the term "blast processing". Nintendo fanboys treat that buzzword like a heresy because it technically wasn't real the way "Mode 7" was - the Genesis just had a much stronger CPU and it was immediately visible in the games. Its library of games gets a few nods, they compare Sega 1st party to Nintendo 1st party, discount the giant catalog of quality games Genesis has that SNES simply couldn't handle, say SNES had games that aged better, and declare it the victor.There isn't much disdain for Saturn and Dreamcast because PlayStation was the next thing.
>>12257912/vr/ has a general that specifically covers pre-NES gaming and it usually goes to bump limit.
>>12259431>The Genesis is painted as some a sort of grift that was all-around worse than the SNES, but got temporarily success because they had more sports gamesThis is the most retarded take I have ever heard. Sega’s library was able to take advantage of both sharing Sega’s System 16 arcade architecture, and being extremely easy to port games from Motorola 68k based PCs and arcades. Sega cut corners so the Genesis wasn’t 1 to 1 perfect System 16. So there were compromises. But it wasn’t because of having more sports games. It was just easier to program for. Take all of Virgin interactive’s library. Every Disney game was better for the Genesis even if the SNES had a larger color palette and sound chip. You also got ports like Dune as exclusives in Genesis. And don’t get started on Nintendo’s censorship
>>12259432You mean it usually dies before bump limit
>>12259425>The best SNES and Genesis games are just Amiga and Atari ST portsStill insane
>>12259403>reading comprehension was never a thingCertainly not with you kiddo
>>12257662pong like systems it was just getting something on screenRCA studio and the like it was mainly 1 guy making all the games using random ideasAtari/Intellivision you started with design documents and Activiion/Imagic really starting to plan what people wantNes/Sms you get teams of people whose actual career is making games>>12259451Nintendo fans have this weird delusion that Sega fans only play Sonic. They are missing out since even obscure system can have good games. But Nintendo systems before N64 do have the feeling that no other system matters when your choosing the games, you just get settled in and comfy.
>>12258057>thread that concluded with everyone agreeing
>>12259576You really have shitty reading comprehension if you still can't read what he actually said and have to respond to an imaginary version that's easier to attack.
>>12260382>everyone isn't just the voices in some kids headThis is what grownups actually believe!
>>12258862Wasn't River Raid originally considered to be almost impossible to code on the 2600?
>>12259404>>12259236For someone like me capable of equally enjoying most game platforms, who steers clear of drama (whether it's console war or any kind of drama irl, like even if someone insult me or tries to create shit with me they REALLY need to go out of their way for it to affect me), your anti Nintendo posts on /vr/ sound like console warring derangement and victim syndrome to me. There is no "Nintendo bias" on /vr/, if anything there is more "anti Nintendo" sentiment like your posts as a good portion of retarded Nintendo threads are false flagging trolls trying to make people who like Nintendo look like retards. Which is kinda what you're doing too.
>>12257662How is 1989 third gen?Are we calling pong only as 1st and Atari2600 as 2nd?
>>12260505>as a completely neutral third party observerFuck off if you're not going to discuss Atari, tendie retard.
>>12260505Too bad you're not capable of shitposting anything that doesn't out you as a ridiculous nintoddler tool.
>>12260739You must be the most retarded zoomer on this board.The consoles in that picture were all released from 1982 until 1985. The TurboGrafx16/PC Engine were released in 1987 and the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive released in 1989 as did the Nintendo GameBoy
>>12259942>Nintendo fans have this weird delusion that Sega fans only play SonicIt's a projection of how they play their own consoles, starting with SNES. SNES only ever had a small handful of relevant games, mostly first party major IP's, so to the tendie, they cannot fathom that other competing systems have hundreds of relevant games from all kinds of different developers, and because fans of those other systems don't coalesce over singular "hits" like they do, they view it as some sort of weakness or flaw. This is the same thing that happens with N64 and GameCube fans. It's also why a lot of diehard tendies struggle to get into the NES, because the NES has a more broad library with a wider selection of relevant games to pick from, with less a focus on major first party "hits", so the SNES/N64/GameCube loving nintendrone is out of his element and doesn't know how to enjoy a console like that.
>>12261257I’m a Nintendo fan. I was a kid when the Genesis was new. Every damn multi platform game that came out for SNES/Genesis had the same dynamic. The SNES version ALWAYS had superior sound and graphics. But somehow the Genesis version was always more fun. Like it had less input lag or something. Maybe it was the BLAST PROCESSING meme that had us fooled. But Genesis always seemed more responsive and more fun. But you could clearly tell the SNES had superior hardware.
>>12261410I was a genesis kid and I was blown away when I emulated Snes and the games weren't all shitty 20 minutes time wasters
>>12261410>Mega Drive is consistently more fun>More responsive, less input lags>"I'm a Nintendo fan">>12261494>Some if the finest arcade games>"20 minutes time wasters"Nobody hates video games more than SNES drones.
>>12261605If I wanted to play shitty arcade games I would go to the arcade, I didn't even know you could save in games until I got a Playstation, a feature that was since the third gen yet none of the shitty genesis games I was stuck with had.
>>12261631>I didn't even knowYes. You being ignorant proves how wrong the rest of the world is. 18+
>>12261873I didn't know because not a single sega game I had had the basic save feature
>>12261884>I didn't knowSee >>12261873
>>12262319How was I supposed to know if I only had a genesis and half of the genesis library can't save because they are 20 minutes long time wasters?
