Would Chrono Trigger be as a success today if it had a Final Fantasy artstyle
>Ayla given the anti-soul gasBoooo
>>12258463looks 10x better than torishit style.
Snu-snu.
>>12258478Looks like generic faggot crap. No wonder a retarded faggot like you enjoys it.
The pixel art luckily hid most of the Toriyama garbage. A nu-demake would straight up look like DBZ.Without Toriyama's meddling the game would have had a style similar to Bastard!! and that is the worst crime.
>>12258467Worse, it's AI slop he found on reddit.https://www.reddit.com/r/chronotrigger/comments/181l77w/i_described_chrono_trigger_characters_to_ai/
>>12258463Judging by Chrono Cross, no
>>12258536>triggered the slop eaterlmao
>>12258536Torislop is generic, boring and unskilled thoughbeit. I don't want to see another Vegeta faced spaghetti haired "female" with thick black linework ever again in my life.
>>12258478>>12258536Cmon fellas it's christmas>>12258541Toriyama style works well on NES-PS1 games. Simple and readable.
I can guarantee that I would not have enjoyed it.Honestly, fuck Amano. I hated his work back then, and I still hate it now as it continues to poison the wheel with Amano-like styles leaking into games such as Octopath.>haha look at those enemies with designs completely incoherent with the rest of the game>of course they have absolutely no animation, can you imagine how awkward would be this jumble mess moving?
>>12258927This so much, I hate how the enemies are detailed giants and your guys chibis despitenhoth supposed to be the same size or even the enemy smaller
>>12258463>that hair
>>12258463OP you have badly damaged your thread by posting a distracting image that isn't well connected to the thread's topic. Many anons are still near the beginning of their journey toward literacy, so a thread's opening image must convey as much of the meaning of the post's text as possible
>>12258463Yeah why not... outside Japan, at least. Toriyama provides lots of soul but he also kinda sucks in some ways, so it's not super hard to find some other good artist to replace him. And JRPG fans (outside Japan) surely didn't especially need to be hooked in by the concept of "new IP with character designs by the Dragon Ball/Dragon Quest guy". Toriyama wasn't a huge deal in JRPGs, for us, and other styles were doing just fine. Within Japan, though, I have no idea what effect replacing Toriyama would have had
>>12258463>iPhone filename>AI slop>Would Chrono Trigger be as a success today>be as successStay on /v/ you neon-brown-clown, holy fuck.
>>12258463>AIslop still can't generate pixelsThe absolute state of Scam Altman
>>12259080sounds awkward and ESL-coded but it checks out
>>12258478>generic moeshit is better no wonder you losers are so infatuated with gAyI.
Nobuteru Yuki is so much better than ToryamaGlad Chrono cross choose him instead
>>1225908540 quadrillion dollars and 10% of the world's water supply more to the AI server farms
>>12258541>Without Toriyama's meddling the game would have had a style similar to Bastard!! and that is the worst crime.Found the "essencia" retard. I bet you also love Toyoslop and wanted Dragon Ball to be full on edgy since it ended.
>>12259112>this is better
>>12259112That pic is funny, considering this was based on Mazoku Yusuke (which was also influenced on Dark Schneider's design)
>>12259117>post something not by Toriyama You people are pathetic.
>>12259119too problematic
>>12259117>im going to post Shitper's sweatshop animator stills to prove him wrong!At least post retro stuff, you mongoloid.
>>12259121Holy based Toriyama
Frankly sick of Toriyama slander, as if he’s the only Japanese artist you can accuse of recycling designs.
>>12259107That's unfortunate, considering his design work on Cross has a terrible output compared to his work on anime Lord of the Rings (Record of Lodoss)
>>12259112I think all the edgy retards hating on Toriyama would still treat Toyotaro like shit too.But i would like to see them try to shit on better official artists like Fenyo and Dragon Garrow Lee for example.
>>12259087>needs a website to check his grammar>it's still wrong "Be as a success" is a nonsense statement. "Be as successful" is almost a correct statement, but it doesn't fit your sentence.
>>12259129Most artists have at least 10 designs.Toriyama had about three. Goku, Piccolo, and Bulma.
>>12259159A single google search makes this notion look biased and wrong.with Nobuteru Yuki, you have >pouty faced protagonist>trianglar faced dame>elderly/gruff old man>Same thing but misc. expressions (long/cat/moody/etc)and most of these stuff were were common place for most "high" 80s even. early 90s anime designs back then.
>>12259136It's crazy to think I was an edgy retard who loved toriyama as a kid/teen, now the edgy retards hate toriyama. Is it just adult edgy retards, cause I don't hear much toriyama hate from younger gens, just millennials.
>>12259156'Be as a success', is technically acceptable, sounds weird though. 'be as successful' is the correct way it would be stated. "Would this game be as successful today, if it had a different art style." That's a proper sentence.
>>12259129Not just Japanese artist, look at h.r. Geiger, his work is only recycled and everyone loves it. Salvador Dahlia paintings dies it too. All artists do it, it's his trademark style. Problem is it got too popular. It was niche and edgy nerds picked up on dbz immediately. Then when it got super popular, said edgy nerds, being contrarian social outcasts, flipped a switch. Now, they have grown contempt for toriyama and anything dbz. I have friends like this. I stopped watching anime, they continued to watch anime. I bring up dbz, they proceed to diss dbz.
>>12258463I'm an casual aislopfag and even I'm disgusted on the low effort gen that's being called "Final Fantasy-inspired".Anyone with NovelAI or ComfyUI can easily just outpaint and vibe transfer this and get something close, even with how terrible the pixel art output most popular LLMs can even do.OP's image, meanwhile, is pure promptslop. No additional tweaks or whatsoever to make it feel close to in-game or concept art to FF sprites. He sees something that looks pixely so it's good enough for the retard./rant.
>>12259127Heavily inspired by bull durham ads
>>12259258pure tamashii
>>12258463what jrpg actually looks like this it's awesome
>>12259262thank u sirz, i was inspire by james camera avatar when i drew ths
>>12259262it's very Final Fantasy 3 coded although the article is generally only in the promotional material unless you're playing the 3D DS remake. Don't expect too much outside in the way of coherent story thoughFinal Fantasy Tactics and Bravely default also come to mind
>>12259117>Vegeta retards are still pissed over thisOne of the few good things from nu-Dragon Ball, still taking a fat piss on everyone's favorite jobber.
>>12259254it's 2 years old back when stuff was obviously AI and couldn't into hands properly (SOVL)
>>12258463It's beloved as one of the all time classics today, how is that not a success retard?
>>12259298It actually sold less than 300k copies in the US at the timeIt was only a critical success in Japan and to early gaming weebs before it got infested with otaku culture
>>12258541Just noticed Magnus's bulge
>>12259121Holy racifist
>>12258859Toyiyomama art is best when he is drawing weird creatures and civilizations and basically anything that isn't supposed to be a normal bodied human.
>>12258927>>12258943U tasteless fags must get upset about first person rpgs
>>12259117It's his original universe from his own demented jap mind, so you just have to accept DB is not a serious try-hard setting.
>>12259258Would console manufacturers prevent your game from being released on their hardware if it used depictions like this now?
>>12259382Probably, but give a year or two, unless you're in Europe, then that's going to be what you see all day everyday, kek.
>>12259129Toriyama's writing can be stupid sometimes, particularly his comedy, but nowhere near as insufferable as Takahashi's "Rumic-isms"
>>12259348First person rpgs/ battle scenes don't have such clashing art styles
As a pixel artist I'll always be glad to see how AI still can't and probably will never do decent pixel art.Pixel is too precise for AI to just generate it.
>>12259305Jrpgs in general weren't popular with American kids.
>>12259341uwu..?
>>12259584There's actually a couple of pixel art llms in the works but they're so ass and most of them are just doing automated conversions to make them work, so i wouldn't expect them to be anything decent until the end of 2027.
>>12259129>Toriyama x Rumiko collab never
>>12260127>Toriyama never collaborated with Go Nagai despite being on similar wavelengths>the Go Go Ackman x Devilman crossover will never happen ahhhh still mad
>>12259556Point is that the hero graphics dont matter in first person and really are not that important either in any FF pre 7.
>>12259125Battle of the Gods was a Z movie.
>>12260230still isn't by Toriyama BTW I don't have anything against comedy in Dragon Ball, i just find it laughable you tryhards are using stuff commissioned by Toei as something to dig at Toriyama.
I see Akira Toriyama's superiority has lead to some controversy
Probably, I didn't give a shit about Toriyama style then. I thought Chrono looked kind of retarded.
>>12258541Dark Schneieder is just a cheap Elric ripoff anyway.
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>>12258463Yes. Toriyama's style is lazy as hell, just repeated copy-pasted Gohan/Bulma faces. All of Dragon Quest's protagonists are all variations of Gohan cosplaying as a swordsman.
>>12261417Try a little harder on the next reply, will ya?
>>12258463toriyama's style was always garbage, so yes
>>12260123I'm still a firm believer that AI will never replace the human charm art can have. AI images will always seem insipid and lifeless compared to human made work, imperfections and all.
>>12261432That's because the people doing it has no sense of good or strong direction.Kinda like how retards think having the artist's CSP/SAI brush means they can be like the artist. AI is just a mere tool after all.
>>12258927>>12258943Cuckhamut Lagoon might be your speed unfortunately.
>>12258740Who did the art there?
>>12259112The funny thing about this image is that Dragonball Super is basically 1 step away from the cast looking like this.
Toriyama's artstyle is very beautiful, but people associate it with dbz and judge based on that. Him also being lazy and reusing the same features also doesn't help. Feed his art to ai and see how it flourish.
>>12258463Before I had internet or my own computer I recall I used to fap to this screenshot of Ayla's stinky cavewoman crotch from the PSX players guide. Nostalgia... I've been a degenerate since 2001. Wish I could go back to simpler better times.
>>12261713this is a good example >>12259112the design here is cool but it's almost Goku Super Sayian 3, Little diversity.
>>12261714>*SNIFF*
>>12259262the star ocean games on the ps1 maybe?
>>12260139Go nagai would never work with someone who had sex.
>>12261417>All of Dragon Quest's protagonists are all variations of Gohan cosplaying as a swordsman.Dragon Quest came first, Gohan is a Dragon Quest protagonist cosplaying as a half alien martial artist. My headcanon is that Piccolo is a rejected demon king design for DQ3 since it's too much of a coincidence that Toriyama had a demon king villain in DB a few months after DQ2 came out and while he was working on DQ3.
