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Screen Utility - https://shauninman.com/utils/screens/
Handheld Comparison - https://retrocatalog.com/
Google chart - https://tinyurl com (slash) AllHandhelds
has anyone asked my question before? - https://4search.neocities.org/vr
Compare handheld sizes - https://retrosizer.com/
Handy Handheld info - https://handhelds.wiki

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>>12247847
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Is xbox 360 easier to emulate than same ps3 games ? Especially for weak hardware ?
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'nig won
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>>12259090
I wouldn't be able to enjoy games while being constantly reminded I'm using lagdroid on the bottom screen
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>>12259090
Bro just get a DSi. Cheaper and runs better.
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>>12259128
A dsi cant run melonds and 3ds. Max zhou ron.
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>>12259128
This plays ds games fine, most with 2x upscaling and on modern panels. Not to mention snes and psx.
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>>12259142
Neither can the rgds
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>>12259142
RGDS is NOT MEANT to run melonDS or 3DS games. Your ironic troll post is a strawman.

"Huurr Durrr a dsi cant play Cyberpunk, Max zhou ron."

Retard. This is an excellent budget two screen device, the only one in its bracket. Being the only one could mean they could be truly shit, but they went for a good built, fine hinges, and fair hardware for the task, no bells and whistles, but the "First World Problems" crowd cant help but be snobs about their own farts.
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>>12259171
>"First World Problems"
Wut? Max stated this has more sales over first and third world countries. At least by preorders. Westerns just critizie the rgds and not even that much. Chinks shit on it every 5 seconds, and most of it is brutal
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>>12259171
Should have went for resistive screen
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>>12259090
I saw your thread on /v/; no, I don't to get that chinkshit.
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>>12259270
don't want*
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>>12259270
i never once posted on /v/
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>>12259204
They don't make those anymore. It's cheaper to use phone touchscreens.
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Explain why this isn't the best handheld for retro games
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>>12259306
good luck playing this shit on the bus
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>>12259306
It's bigger than xboxhueg relative to other handhelds
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>>12259306
That thing is as much a "handheld" as a laptop is meant to be used sitting on your lap.

Sure you can hold it to play for a couple hours at home, put it in your pocket and play it during the day on the go... mmm... yeah no... Retro? not really it is way overpowered for retro gaming, its market is modern gaming.
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>>12259306
>xbox heug
>shit battery life
>touchpads are straight up retarded and a waste of space
I will say 16:10 is extremely based and I wish other high end handhelds would use it too.
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>>12259306
Parents won't like seeing my 'ick on 'eck in public
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>>12259090
>jrpg on top screen (in moon runes)
>dictionary on the bottom
ngl i see the potential
it's too weak for game + jewtube apparently but that might be a software fix
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>>12259374
yeah I'm planning on playing through pokemans ruby in full nippon glory with a dictionary on the second screen
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>>12259090
>backlash forced 'nig to fix the refresh rate
bullying works
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>>12259285
You didn't post this? >>>/v/728926702
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>>12259447
some nigga stole my image lmao
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>>12259424
> What is Eco-Mode?
I wish an update could fix the broken hinges of Miyoo.
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>>12259447
Look at the picture's filename, it is a numbered name given to files that have been uploaded to and processed by 4changs, not an original file.
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DSi XL won
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>>12259308
On a related note, what device would best fit Steam OS that's smaller than a Deck, but otherwise possesses all its qualities?
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>>12259480
flip 2
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>>12259489
chinese quality, no?
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>>12259480
rg35xxh
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>>12259306
>fucking giant 16:9 7-7.4 inch screen. "Handheld" my ass.
>linux is a plus, but it means the battery life is shit
>right after (you) buy it, Valve will announce the Deck 2
The only use case for the Deck is playing seamless co-op Elden Ring with your girlfriend.
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>>12259306
It's got a worse screen than a 200-300 dollar chinkheld so retards can talk about how they can "run anything" because the screen is at fucking 1280x800 lmao
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>>12259691
They always forget to mention they also run it with FSR enabled so less than 1280x800 even
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>>12259693
But a DSi emulation machine suddenly is such a traumatic event if its resolution is capped to 480p...like the RGDS..
How dare you keep retro retro when I can run all these 4K games at upscaled 520p with my device worth 6 RGDS!! The RGDS should have been at least 1080p and emulate Switch...

For fucks sake, like the RGDS was supposed to be competition for the Simply Fantastic 2k (SF2000)
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>>12259306
>"hand"held
>doesn't fit in one hand
I hate the proliferation of backpackhelds so much
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>>12259704
I'm an RG DS believer
Reddit and youtube is shitting on it but it seems good. They cry it doesnt have retro achievements and underrate the multitasking functionality. they only consider its ds and 3ds capability when it's capable of so much more. imagine shit posting/watching youtube/listening to music/texting/using a dictionary on the bottom screen while playing ps1 on the top. seems kino af
The only competition for it is the ayn thor and fuck paying $300 for lagdroid

I'd rather have this as my multitasking machine and if i want to play an action game i have a linux device for that
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Flip 3 should have 1 screen but six face buttons
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GBA games look disgusting on DS Lite
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>>12259090
is there a configuration, be it on droid or Rarch, that allows the Bottom screen to have a different BG instead of the droid homescreen?
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>>12259852
supposedly the RGDS can run low-tier 3DS games, correct? that should imply it should be somewhat capable to AT LEAST run saturn and maybe some higher-end mame games.

can someone confirm how well can it run Saturn and Mame4Droid? specifically the ultra64 games (KI, KI2, Cruisin USA?) if so, then yeah, this MIGHT still be a worthy buy for a budget Dual screen handheld.
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>>12259924
looks better than on a 3ds thoughever
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Is best case scebario just to emulate from a steam deck?
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What’s with the guy shilling for the steam deck.
I love my handhelds but I don’t try to make every thread about it
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>>12259952
whoever he is, must be a rich US asshole bragging because his daddy got him a Dick for his Xmas present. even more now that Valve announced the 512GB model is now discontinued because of the memory shortage memes.

things like this make me wish for Valve to end up in bankrupt for making his shit so fucking exclusive to the US, my steam collection be damned!

>missed the liquidation sale of the Steampads
>cant participate on Steam machines contests
>same with the Dicks.
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What's the anticipated handheld for PSX?
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>>12258693
>>12258816
>>12259058
>>12259063
You sound upset.
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>>12259930
I don't see why you'd want this but I suppose you could pull up the anbernic launcher. They have a couple themes, not sure if you can customize the background though. A word of warning there's currently no way to turn off the bottom display on stock firmware, just the top one is toggleable.
>>12259936
>3ds
smt iv ran fine except for the opening cutscene but the emulator crashes when attempting to load a savestate, so I haven't bothered since
> Saturn and Mame4Droid
I briefly tried Panzer Dragoon II, the fps counter displays 35-40 fps. Feels kinda sluggish but I don't know how the game is supposed to run.
I'll give the list a try tomorrow.
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>>12259976
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>>12259979
>I don't see why you'd want this

i do get some people would like multitasking more, but i feel that for retro systems, you should be focused on the game, with the bottom screen being a wallpaper, or in case of a retro computer (C64, amiga, DOS, X68000, etc) a touchscreen keyboard.
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>>12259985
I get that obviously, when playing single screen games I usually dim the bottom screen and display either the android homescreen or launcher page.
>bottom keyboard
Afaik there's no way on stock to display a keyboard on the other screen from the input field, which is one of the few complaints i have. Hopefully gamma implements something like that and/or DOS emulators patch support for dual meme
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>>12259074
I've honestly just started using original handheld hardware with a rom cartridge. It feels like all the new products are extremely low quality and rife with manufacturing defects. If I'll have to pop it open and fuck around inside anyway, I may as well just grab the OG unit and install a backlight and rechargeable battery mod for the same price or cheaper.
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>>12259306
zero portability if you have life
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>>12259985
>>12259985
>>12259993
Guides, or sections of PDF guides' pages would be kino.

But given the resolution probably Text Based Guides are best.
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>>12259306
Battery life is short, and it's so expensive and eye catching it's actually dangerous to play during a work commute if you live in a big city.
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>>12259852
but the rgds is active-cooled lagtroid garbage too?
who gives a shit what the price is? nobody should be using jewgletroid ever. for any reason. period.
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>>12260025
>active-cooled
I don't know what happened to you to develop such an obsession with fans but rest assured the rgds doesn't have one.
>jewdroid
Meh, fits my usecase and it's nice having access to proper software for file management
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>>12260020
100% METH BENDER FUEL
I was afraid of getting mogged in the public transport in 2005 with my GBASP, let alone this luxurious monstrosity.
A meth head will stab you thrice to take it from you and change it for 5 grams of meth that costed the dealer 50 bucks from his supplier.
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>>12260025
no other device lets you play games and use a dictionary at the same time though
if you're learning moonrunes off of ps1 and lower this seems like a good device to have. use linux for everything else obv
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>>12260080
one time I was on subway playing arcaea (with sound on through speakers) and a tranny sat next to me and pulled out his steam deck
this was in nyc

there's no danger anymore. crime is a meme now. all the gangsters are on their phones just like everyone else
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>>12260143
LOL sure dude, cool story man.
Did you play a lot with the Tranny StimDick?
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>>12260143
I got mugged for my switch on the DC metro earlier this year. Gun to my head. Cities just suck, and addicts will do anything they can for their next fix.
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>>12260143
I was on the train too and I saw you choke on her girlcock actually, why are you lying about what happened?
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>>12260029
>Rockshit without cooling
I know the overclocked 3566 doesn't get as hot as the others, but I still get flashbacks to the original gpd xd.
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>>12260165
>>12260179
I was in that bussy like Hideo Kojima while you cucks sat in the side watching ;]
>>12260176
I lift and look poor and know how to speak to schizos so they never fuck with me
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I've tried the linux handhelds and they lag too compared to original hardware. Play them side by side and you'll wonder how you ever tolerated it
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>>12259306
emulators need high single thread performance and the steam deck doesn't really provide it compared to newer handheld pcs or even chinese android handhelds.
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>>12260218
>Play them side by side
But i don't have the original hardware?
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>>12260236
use a fpga console
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>>12260218
>I've tried the linux handhelds and they lag too
I can accept a frame or two in exchange for the convenience. Android devices seem like they have 5 frames+ of lag but i dont have one and never tested
what devices and consoles did you test
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>>12260218
yeah let me just lug around 4000 arcade cabinets, retard
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>>12259948
Basically, unless your needs include something very specific (more portability, higher resolution screen, cheaper OLED, better battery life, cheaper price, etc). My Steam Deck is basically filled with 30% indieshit and 70% retro game compilations/remasters right now, and its great.

A Steam Deck is the best "portable" device if your idea of portable is "laying in bed" or "at the office on a lunchbreak" or "in a hotel room on a business trip", but its not something you can actually drop in your pocket and carry around with you. Having a deck and a cheap, small handheld is a solid combo, this way you get all of the benefits of both.

One thing that is nice is if you have bros who also have steam decks you can basically get together and have a LAN party. I have a few coworkers who also have them and we'll fuck around with multiplayer games after work sometimes. Cloud saves also make it piss easy to go back and forth between playing a game on the deck and playing it on my desktop.
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>>12260218
The only linux chinkhelds where I felt the delay was a problem was the rgplus. I can't tell if it's a thing with mips but the shartui dumbo and v90 felt fine with my benchmark game, sonic advanced. Bad input delay fucks you up in those games. Especially 2.

>>12260318
Don't fet uppity when someone judges delay, linuxbro. You'll stoop to anjeets level. Remember all the cool shit they took from you. Remember all the devs they driven insane with their bizzare questions. Remember when powcunny dropped linux...
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>>12259171
>RGDS is NOT MEANT to run melonDS or 3DS games.
They literally advertised it running 3DS games, what are you waffling on about?
>This is an excellent budget two screen device
Unless you are exclusively using it for PS1 and under purposes with something on the second screen like a guide or Youtube video it's beyond a waste of money. I hope you don't enjoy playing games that primarily focus on the touch screen or Pokemon which has massive frame drops even on Drastic. It literally cannot even play a good chunk of DS games at 1x on Drastic because of either input lag or poor performance, and even with the top screen fix Sonic Rush is still visually desyncing unlike on a DS.

That's not even getting into the capacitive touch screen issue and it not even being integer scaled properly for DS, the primary reason you would buy this thing. Everything about the RGDS is bad.
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>>12260431
Big ass android devices can dual window anyway because that's something android could always do for a long time. I dont know why people care about dual shit. The retroon flop 2 and ick on eck are all you need until some chink company gets off their asses and make an odin 2 sized x86
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Integer scaling is a meme. The Sharp Bilinear interpolation shader makes any scale look perfectly fine.
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People complain about the steam deck but what's the alternative? Everything that does the steam deck but better is higher in price isn't it? What other handheld can play your steam library?
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>>12260536
everything if you stream it
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>>12260543
I suppose so, but I don't like leaving my PC on when I'm not there.
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>>12260536
There's apps on android that let you connect your steam account and play steam games on your non-deck handheld. Your mileage probably varies though because otherwise people would be saying "just get an odin 2 bro" instead of "just get a deck bro"
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>>12260536
Rog Ally used/after market is about the same price as an LCD with more power and a non-shit screen.
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>>12260552
People leep reccomending deks and alis because they literally just work. Winlator has literally hundreds of compatibility questions spread everywhere because it's still very fucky. Even gamehub, which is meant to be a bit lore retard proof has issues. Steamos on arm will save the chinkheld world from being rewrapped phones or tablets with controls
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>>12260580
>Steamos on arm will save the chinkheld world from being rewrapped phones or tablets with controls
I pray for this every day
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>>12260580
Not only steamos but the compatibility layer they're building between arm and x86 could be huge
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>>12260429
i don't give a fuck abiut that retard's erroneously perceived "delay", what i care about is his retarded notion of "hurrrdurrr just play original hardware" when original hardware sucks fucking ASS
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>>12259083
Why don't you test that shit out yourself?
Anyway the answer is yes, Xenia is much easier to run than RPCS3.
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>>12259058
Are you retarded?
If you're gonna spend money dont fucking buy waste. That mechen is a piece of shit that buzzes and hisses like a motherfucker with iems
The firmware is chinkshit instead of the best in class rockbox. It has like a 3rd of the battery life.
The stock is on the surfans let's you use the device as a USB dac.
And its like a $40 difference.
A fool and his money are easily parted I guess
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>>12259691
>>12259693
The 800p screen is unironically a good thing.
It cuts system requirements massively while still letting you play at the screens native resolution.
'Eck would have died years ago if it had a 1080p panel, but 800p let's it keep up to this day.
I just beat NG4 on my LCD eck, near locked 60fps
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>>12259308
I don't know how people can relax enough on public transport to play games
At most I can read something quick on my phone but its fucking impossible to be immersed in an environment like that.
Plus it distracts you from potential dangers, you dont want to be caught unawares on the nyc subway kek
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>ArkOS
>Copy DOOM WADs into the doom folder
>start the wads through Retroarch
>crashes, nothing loads
Why? I just wanna play lots of Wads on my R36S and hacked PS3
This shit sucks
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>fomo buy two (2) more retroon mini v2s
>same day but separate orders
>4px for both
>first one arrives in 10 days
>second one has been in limbo since the 7th
Fucking bizzare
Also they really need to stop fucking shipping these in their flimsy ass box, it's really obvious theres a potentially expensive electronic in there.
USPS are usually pretty good but you have no idea who the middleman company is.
yes i am deeply mentally ill
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I guess I fucked up by not buying an 'eck before the tariffs and datacenter chip shortage.
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>>12260694
>buy two (2)
Gifts? Friends? Trading pokemans with yourself?
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>>12260696
Did they raise the price or something?
I'm glad I fomo buyeded rp6 its looking like we're gonna have some grim times coming up
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>>12260701
>friends
anon...
including the one coming in I have 5 now.
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>>12260702
idk if this is what he means, but valve announced yesterday that their not gonna make anymore lcd steamdecks
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>>12260536
>People complain about the steam deck but what's the alternative?
a laptop lmao
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>>12260707
they were selling the 64gb LCD for 299 at one point, you would have had to be a fool not to pick one up
They'll probably discount the oleds eventually
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>>12260653
There's more shit chinkhelds than og hardware. Anbernic, Gpd, Ayaneo ARE always better, but the rest fuckup time and time again while people defend those fuckups.

>>12260693
Why aren't you using the portmaster version?
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>>12260773
>Anbernic ARE always better
LMAO
fuck off zhou, go work on the ds 2.0 you greedy chinaman
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>>12260773
yeah i don't know how bad the other linux chinkhelds with older/other chips are, but i do know VERY INTIMATELY how original hardware is (since i owned it all and played them all extensively already) and there's no way i'm ever going back to original hardware (which isn't even applicable for arcade games and console game ANYWAYS) after experiencing the features and convenience of the xx line
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>>12260773
I got my r36s a week ago and already 1CC'd Magical Crash and Sailor Moon on it. Have a Crash Bandicoot 1 clear on it too. I want to see some tests proving that linux handhelds have lag
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Why has no review pointed out that the Thor's top screen struggles to hold 120 FPS? Android keeps trying to sync the top's refresh rate to the bottom which fucks up black frame insertion and other shit. They still haven't patched this
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>>12261030
The reviewers dont actually play games so they dont care about latency and all of that icky nerd stuff
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>>12260790
Pft. Unlike retroid or miyoo, anbernic has literally done nothing wrong.

>>12260996
My original reply only mentioned the rgplus having android tier input delay, and it's a bit complex. Anbernic started shipping models with worse ram timings causing higher inoutndelay and worse gba performance unless you overclock, which can crash the emu since the ram makes retrofw unstable. They did that with the rg300 on top of using smaller screens so the name doesn't make sense anymore. The r36s is a 3326 with good firmware. Of course, it wouldn't have lag.

>>12261030
There would need to be an update that treats both screens as one. Assuming they use the same hz
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>>12260557
And 30 minute battery life unless you're talking about the X which is no way as cheap as a Steam Deck
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>>12261071
>Assuming they use the same hz
bottom is only 60 HZ
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>>12261095
Surely Military Bussy Cumdumpster Russ made a whole video about the Thor and its non-matching 60HZ calling the device utter shit and the absolute worst thing to happen since his wife boyfriend broke his SNES
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>>12260536
>People
It's 1 (one) low IQ self-admitted anti-valve schizo who smears shit on the threads' walls now and then.
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Are R36S consoles worth it?
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>>12261308
Depends, are you willing to save 10 bucks to not have a good d-pad?
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>>12261312
Compared to g350 or something else ?
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>>12261357
Yeah.
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>>12260718
Maybe they will when the 2 gets announced, but I need to see the hardware specs of the 2 before I buy one at a discount. The only thing I have any ounce of fomo about is a vertislop, though.
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>>12261416
Deck 2 is hello canceled until further notice on RAM price fixing, virtually everything is, really.
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>>12261308
yes at $25
if i could do it over i would have started with an anbernic xx device but I'm happy with my r36s
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>>12261423
Good thing I have a RP5, I guess. I should probably go ahead and buy a new tablet, though. I actually kinda want the new x86 surface pro (to wipe and install IoT so I can play my eroge VNs in bed).
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I hate asking about Reddit here, but is there some sort of console war with FPGA handhelds now? I recommended the Chromatic to a guy considering the Analogue Pocket. My post was deleted and I ate a ban, which makes no sense.
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>>12261308
Yes, perfect PS1 machine
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>>12261529
Reddit is modded by literally schizo delusional trannies. They destroy everything they touch, like CDRomance.
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>>12261529
Yeah, lefties appropriated another right wing meme and jews are bad now (but don't you dare state the many reasons why or you'll get unpersoned).
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>>12260673
>iems
Earbuds, anon. Gussy it up however you must to feel better, but you use earbuds.
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>>12260673
small dick energy, this snow nigger hilly billy has
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>>12261529
Its because the guy behind the Chromatic apparently has ties to US Defense contractors, so Reddit turned on him because of that. That's literally it, because otherwise if you only want to play just GB/GBC with an FPGA handheld, the Chromatic is a better purchase on the basis that its in stock, includes a game, is $50 less and doesn't require a dock to output to a display.
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>>12261585
yeah and you can fuck yourself kike lover
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>>12261596
I didn't say shit about loving Israel desu. Just pointing out that if you want an FPGA handheld that can play carts, that's currently your only viable option. If you want to use real hardware then you can thrift for a regular GB/GBC, and if you want something for less you can just buy any number of budget vertical chinkhelds from Anbernic like the RG40XXV.
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>>12259090
>T618
>Screens identical to the DS in resolution
>200$~
It wasn't that difficult.
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>>12261607
Doesnt sound entry level, like most of Anbernic iconic and best sold devices are. Sounds like they do know they market.

But I do feel you, there is a segment between RGDS and the Thor that is desperately waiting to be occupied by a good contender.
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>>12260356
So what you're getting at is there are emulators which are actuality pocket size and more niche specs rather than steam deck. But it is suitable for more than just emulation
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>>12261616
There's no world where a RK3566 for $100 in late 2025 would have ever made sense, even with integer scaling screens. At WORST, this could have been a novelty in which you played old and lightweight games with the screen on top and a guide or mapping software on the bottom, but turns out it's too slow for that too.
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>>12261627
sure, it is man.
it does it even turn on, and cant play mame neither
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>>12261627
>At WORST, this could have been a novelty in which you played old and lightweight games with the screen on top and a guide or mapping software on the bottom, but turns out it's too slow for that too.
Does it? I'm seeing conflicting information
some people say it works fine after the firmware update
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>>12261634
"It works fine" refers to them disabling the idiotic energy saving mode that required you to tap the screen every few seconds so it wouldn't clock down to 40hz. 3566 could barely drive a SINGLE 480p screen on the 353 line, you can't run modern DS emulation (which isn't even particularly taxing), calling it trash isn't hyperbole.
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>>12261639
the sky is falling as well
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TRUTH NUKE a Retroid Pocket 5 with the dual screen attachment is better than an Ayn Thor. You only need the second screen when playing DS or 3DS, it just gets in the way of ergonomics otherwise.
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>>12261687
This but mini
Honestly still shocked that this ended up being the best chink DS solution
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Bro just buy a used DSi. All other options for playing DS games are subpar AND far more expensive.
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>>12261687
>it just gets in the way of ergonomics otherwise
This is why I don't get the hype around the Thor, it gives up too much for the second screen. Even the Flip 2 is better when playing anything that doesn't use the second screen.

It's a shame the RG DS ended up being junk, it could have been the perfect dedicated device.
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>>12261687
>>12261723
>>12261731
I don't get why they put the dpad below the stick on the Thor when most DS and 3DS games use the dpad plus the sticks feel like anyway for games that need both because of the offset
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>>12261869
In theory it’s because most 3DS games used the stick for movement and because there were possible compromises due to the clamshell form factor. But it basically limits your game choices to a handful of titles because of how uncomfortable the device can be for dual stick games or any game that uses the triggers and reviewers point out.
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>>12261729
>Bro here's your 'S' class used DSi bro
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Thor won
/hhg/ lost
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>>12260431
Believe it or not, these people exist. I never play anything beyond PS1, and I would love a second screen for guides.
I'm just waiting for the plus variant to be released next year before buying one.
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>>12262175
>lagdroid (200ms territory)
>bad ergonomics
>beta testing their hinge
>$300
for me, it's the anbernig.
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>nignog double shit
Not even worth its $100 price tag
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>>12262203
The Thor definitely seems to have lag and v-sync issues due to the second screen being forced to display a refresh rate it isn't remotely capable of, but the Nig DS isn't worth it even at its severely cheaper price point. When you factor shipping into the equation, you may as well just grab a second hand DS/DSi LL. If damaged shell and screen quality is that much of a concern, just grab some replacement parts off Ali.
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>>12261729
I have like 4 dsis and maybe 5 or 6 dsi xls
I genuinely do not know how many 3DSes I have
Pre-covid these shits were less than $100, I dont know why but I got a strong compulsion to hoard consoles around 2018.
I have at least 10 vitas. 7 or 8 psps.
Doesnt make shitting and shitposting about chinkhelds any less fun
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>>12262203
Aside from the price, that all applies to the Nig DS too.
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>>12262226
fuck the ds. the use case for me is ps1&lower rpg on top and dictionary on the bottom.
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>>12262226
Android is simply not designed for 2 screens with different refresh rates, it was never going to be a seamless solution.
They should have released the thor as a primarily linux device, but retroon can't be passed to pay devs.
Same with the nig DS, also should have been a linux device, maybe even throw some cash to get melonds better optimized on arm.
Anyway theres literally only a few games that NEED to run stacked top to bottom.
TWEWY can be run side by side and you use your right thumb, or just play the switch version which trades the more complex gameplay for an extra chapter and significantly higher quality audio.
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I wanted to wait longer to buy one, but I think prices will only go up from now, maybe I should just close my eyes and pull the trigger.
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>>12262261
>Android is simply not designed for 2 screens with different refresh rates
rare magicX zero 40 win
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>>12261308
No because you can grab a battlexp g350 instead which is the best budget handheld out right now.
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>>12262261
if they wanted to create an endgame device optimized to play ds/3ds well it would have to be a single vertical resistive touch screen the size of two screens. the ds screens combined on top of each other give a 2:3 aspect ratio (which is the gba rotated) and the 3ds screens placed on top of each other is 5:6

for ds you could do something that is 2:3 / 3:2 which has tate mode and you can have the ultimate nds and gba device in one. for the 3ds you're better off with something like the rg cube, except a little bigger, with linux instead of android. both of these devices would have to have resistive screens, which is no big deal because many linux handhelds arent touch screen anyway
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>>12262284
>battlexp g350
if it's the same price it's better but it commonly retails for almost double the r36s price
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>>12262279
The Zero 40 would be goated if it was actually a perfect integer scale for DS.
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Are all high-end emulation devices on android? Except steam deck
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>>12262349
unfortunately yes until you get to very high-end where there are a few handheld pcs that can run steamos besides the deck
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Help an anon out. Which handheld should I be looking at? I'm mostly interested in playing up to PS1, but there's a handful of PS2 I wouldn't mind trying (Kings Field 4 for example).
I'm willing to spend about $250AUD (dollarydos, like 1.5x yankeedoodlebucks) on this. So far I like the look of the RG476H/RG556, and the Pocket 4 Pro.
Has anyone had experience with these units? Anything dogshit I need to avoid? Or are these pretty solid choices?
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>>12262384
flippy 2
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>>12262384
>Anything dogshit I need to avoid? Or are these pretty solid choices?
It's counterintuitive but cheaper devices on linux with 4:3 screens are better than widescreen android devices for ps1 and lower
the best devices for your use case cost around one half your budget
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>>12262432
>flippy 2
Looks neat, but unfortunately is around $290 dollarydoos so a little out of the budget.
>cheaper devices on linux with 4:3 screens
Any recommendations? I tend to only see the android devices from the major players i.e. anbernic, retroid, aynaeo.
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>>12262471
rg35xxh
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>>12262323
Shader
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>>12262384
Straight up just get an rp g2
Now is not the time to go budget if you're gonna buy something, there is a good chance higher end chinkhelds will become much more expensive soon
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>>12262279
>>12262334
Implying it will ever be out
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>>12262514
>Straight up just get an rp g2
I'd love to, but now we're looking at $350+ dollarydoos. It's just a bit out of the budget.
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>>12262384
RG476H is what you want. If I didn't already have too many handhelds, it's the one I'd buy. You don't need a widescreen if PSP isn't on your list at that budget (unless you have a PC to stream from).
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>>12262518
its already out anon, has been for months. I have one
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>>12262532
>You don't need a widescreen if PSP isn't on your list at that budget
Is that because PSP is harder to emulate, or that it requires a widescreen due to its native resolution?
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>>12262543
I was considering getting this but the screens are 2.6" diagonally which seems way too small.
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>>12262543
Oh I thought you meant the one with 2 dpads
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>>12262581
RIP to high end devices. Every company will be returning to sub-$100 Linux kino in 2026. Press S to spit on Lagdroid's grave.
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>>12262548
I meant two things by that. One was the native resolution; PSP is the only console below PS2 that 'needs' widescreen, and it's not worth choosing a device just for that if PSP isn't on your list. The other was that your budget doesn't require a widescreen for the power you're buying, because you can't emulate much where a widescreen would matter.

The exception is if you have a PC and an interest in Moonlight/Apollo. Then a widescreen is 100% worth it at any budget, because you can play almost anything.
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>>12262581
so glad i got my 'nig before all this retardation started
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>>12262589
S
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>>12262589
RAM prices still affect the (current) sub-$100 category
Expect even low end devices to creep up above the $100 mark
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>>12262593
Thanks man. That was really informative and helpful.
>RUG-FUCKING-PULLED
Whelp.
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>>12262589
I unironically want this to happen. The Trimui Smart Pro S is the first time I've been excited about a handheld in a very long time and I want more advancement in the budget loonix space.
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>>12262607
All those devices have 1-2 gigs of RAM and nobody is gouging those.
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>>12262589
I've come to realize I don't like having a real OS on my handhelds because I don't want to deal with apps, updates, or maintenance. I want a handheld that acts like a console and just plays games at a moment's notice. I think this is why I use my NextUI Brick more than any of the more powerful devices I own. Instant sleep and resume are amazing features when combined with minimalistic Linux.

I would pay big money for something about the size of an RP5, but with NextUI, capability up to PS2, and the ability to install Moonlight.
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>>12262581
I don't feel bad for anyone that waited for the RP6 at all, this is well deserved for anyone trying to grab a Snapdragon 8 G2 handheld with a stick on top for cheap.
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>>12262649
>Ayaneo Pocket Air Mini
These seem great to me, but alas, in dollarydoos they're a whopping $230 for the 3gb model ($200 for the 2gb).
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Be honest, you guys only play pokemon on these devices
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>>12262581
Fuck me
I get paid tomorrow, I'm buying an ayn
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>>12262620
The smart pro s only has 1gb because they knew about this in advance. It's possible pk also knew about this which would explain why some x55 models have 1gb of ram instead of 2 like it's supposed to.
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Instead of buying an Thor isn't there a second screen add-on you could slap onto the portal 2?
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>>12262649
Same bro, same
We're all gonna make it
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I wish the TrimUI Smart Pro had a 4:3 version. Widescreen on a retro handheld is idiotic.
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>>12262657
Damn, that's way too much for the Pocket Air Mini. You'd probably be better off getting any of Anbernic's T820 handhelds at that point.
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>>12262720
>You'd probably be better off getting any of Anbernic's T820 handhelds at that point.
That's why I have been mulling over the 476H or the 556. They're around $250 dollarydoos as it is. I'm deeply unfamiliar with Linux, but I'm open to learning if that's a cheaper and better option too. Essentially I just don't have access to a desktop PC like I used to, so my only option for playing some old-school games are these retro handhelds.
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>>12262737
If you want a PC replacement you should go with a Steam Deck. Anbernic's best devices are the cheap ones, which play up to PS1.
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>>12262705
It's nice for GBA.
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>>12262742
>If you want a PC replacement
I don't need a full PC replacement - I've pretty much given up on PC gaming unfortunately. I've got a PS5 for anything mainstream/new release, but I'm lacking some old-school charm. Also the Steamdeck is around $800 dollarydoos for the 256gb model and $1000+ for the 512gb model.
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>>12262753
Rg556 or smart pro s
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>>12262753
There's very big difference depending on what you consider "old-school". If you want up to PS1, the cheapest chinkshit works flawlessly. For PS2/Switch you need an expensive lagdroid device.
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>>12262760
>Smart Pro S
There's no point in buying this when the Mangmi Air X exists.
>RG556
RG-476H is better for retro titles because it has the d-pad on top with a 4:3 screen.
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>>12262737
The problem with the 556 IIRC are that the sticks are poorly calibrated, though I think GammaOS fixes it. They're both identical in terms of specs so it really depends on whether you want an OLED panel for widescreen hacks, android games and PSP or a bigger screen for 4:3 games. Because there's some games where the widescreen hacks just dont work at all like Mario Sunshine.
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How come Valve was the only one based enough to go for a 16:10 screen? That ratio makes a lot more sense for a retro handheld than 16:9.
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>>12262773
>the sticks are poorly calibrated
Cardinal snapping, they're functionally 8-way sticks without GammaOS.
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>>12262761
>what you consider "old-school"
I'm in my late 30s, so old-school is basically anything prior to mid-2000s.
>For PS2/Switch you need an expensive lagdroid device.
Dang.
>want an OLED panel for widescreen hacks
See, aesthetically the 476H slaps, hard. But my understanding is that the ergonomics of the 556 are better given the molded back and sides (plus the OLED is prettier).
Then I hear a lot of chatter about the older RP4 Pro being a really solid unit for a bargain price now it's a year or more out of date.
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>>12262649
samesies twin
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>>12262771
The RG-476H would have been good if they didn't go with meme design decisions like a glass front-panel, lagroid, and LED sticks. These trends reminds me of the worst parts of the PC gaming peripherals.
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>>12259074
I've been considering getting a steam deck, for the novelty of being able to play my steam library of ported vita games and emulate psp, ps2, ps3, wii and switch on it. is it worth it or will it just become a paper weight?
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>>12262789
With the chip used, android is the only option. I'm not even sure if they have plans for pure linux anymore.
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>>12262793
i would answer but i don't talk to epstein diddy bluds sorry
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>>12262797
How does that make sense? Can't you install linux on anything?
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>>12262802
No, Linux still needs device drivers and everyone uses a different SOC, motherboard, on-board devices, etc.
Someone has to write those drivers and it's not the chinkheld manufacturers doing it
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>>12262793
Go to therapy for a year so you can get rid of pedo mindset, then come back and ask this again, I will answer
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>>12262793
If size isn't a concern and you have plans to actually play games instead of downloading random rims, I don't see why not.
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do you guys ever feel guilt for trying to scare people into buying your dogshit 30 dollar temu handhelds by lying about there being insane input lag on android handhelds
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>>12262812
>scare people into buying something cheaper instead of more expensive
Bro, that doesn't even make sense.
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>>12262815
It's either retroid or ayn hours. Brace yourself anberbros.
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>>12262819
I legitimately have no dog in this fight and I'm constantly confused by the rivalry. It's all chinese shit made out of left-over phone components, right?
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>>12262824
I'm just shitposting, but it used to be parts from mp3 players/electronic games, then tablets/feature phones, now companies something straight up work with handheld makers to use their chips instead of having to dig for scraps. Mind you, it's sometimes easier to dig for scraps.
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>>12262785
On one hand, yes the RP4 Pro is stronger than Anbernic’s T820 devices, but I personally find the screen too small to be pleasant to game on. It’s basically the same 4.7” 16:9 screen used in the RP3/Flip 1, making it usable enough for PSP and GBA but too squinty for other consoles, especially those with a 4:3 aspect ratio. In that regard either the 476H or the 556 are a bigger step in the right direction, even though the chip used is nowhere near as powerful.
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>>12262890
>the 476H or the 556 are a bigger step in the right direction
My understanding (limited as it is) is that the T820 chip can run some PS2 games at native resolution, but many of the later-gen PS2 games are unplayable.
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>>12262903
Which one's specifically? Forthenext actually knows how to tweek settings.
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>>12262737
>I'm deeply unfamiliar with Linux
When it comes to these devices it truly does not matter. Just know that you need to SSH into your device (I.e. use OpenSSH or go to the "Network" tab in Windows) if it uses the ext4 format for the storage and rarely you will need to use OpenSSH to open the terminal on your device (Which I've only ever had to do on a TrimUI Smart Pro to get stick calibration data, never anything else). Everything else is self explanatory and you just copy and paste stuff to specific folders. You don't actually interact with the Linux environment past that unless you're actively working on development for the machine or need to do extremely niche tasks like on Knulli-based machines you use knulli-screenshot in the Terminal to take screenshots of the OS.
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>>12262929
>When it comes to these devices it truly does not matter
There's no specific chipsets that work better/worse with a linux-based OS?
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>>12262936
I was speaking more in terms of having to know how Linux works as an operating system. You're not booting it like a typical OS, it's autobooting into Emulation Station or some other frontend, not Cinnamon or KDE where you have to manually open up your frontend. For all intents and purposes it's a handheld console, not traditional Linux. Traditional Linux is under the hood and you can boot into it via the Terminal, but you as an end user have zero reason to.
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>>12262938
So in regards to a linux based hand held, what are we looking at that could run up to PS2/GC?
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>>12262941
I don't think there are any. They all run Android.
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>>12262581
Sometimes my profound mental illness works out lol
Glad I caught the first batch
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I know it's not really GC-capable but I'm going to try playing Animal Crossing when I get my Pocket Air Mini
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>>12262957
Oy vey gewilo thats wayyy too much pivot
Dpad should be completely flat on push like wife lingling chest and ass
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>>12262964
You can play the N64 version
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Glad to see Retroons finally catching up to AYNchads in specs and price.
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>>12263012
same turds different names
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>>12262432
For the Flip 2 are you really getting demonstrably better performance from the SD than the Dimensity? Seems like a big price jump.
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OH FUGGG
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Is the Ayn thor back in stock yet or do I have to wait till next year?
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>>12263142
The first batch sold out a while ago. Every purchase since November? is for the second batch which ships late January.
Also the lite model is kill
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>>12262957
L3 on middle press, just as god intended
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>>12262581
Everyone should've seen this coming.
Even next gen phones are going to be limited to 4GB.
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>>12263205
Do I preorder one now or wait for it to get back in stock?
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feeling like an all knowing god buying a pc and my first chinkheld right before the RAM-pocalypse hit
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>>12263408
feeling like an all knowing god stealing a pc and my first chinkheld right before the RAM-pocalypse hit
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>>12262903
That sounds about right. IIRC the chip itself closest too is the Dimensity 900, but the stronger CPU in the 820 makes it better for emulation. It’s just a tiny bit better than the Helio G99 so expect maybe 1.5X upscale on some PS2 games like the Silent Hill series, 1x on everything else, and non playable performance on very demanding games. This should also make it easier to tell whether you still want the 556 for upscaled PSP + Android or the 476H for 4:3.



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