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What was namco thinking by killing Xenosaga and ending the career of Soraya Saga which ended up in Monolith being sold to Nintendo and being sent to the Zelda dungeon? It’s one of the greatest video game blunders.
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One the first xenosaga sold relatively well

It just wasn't profitable
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>>12259182
Companies don’t allow a sequel if the game didn’t sell. But I think they disagreed on the budget for the sequel and demanded cuts which made saga mad.
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>>12259182
In general, traditional JRPGs fell off quite a bit in Japan after the PS1. FF/DQ were still big (+KH), but other than that only Tales Of was selling well. And Japan was the main market for these games. I guess they finally got tired of turn based cutscene slop
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>>12259190
>I guess they finally got tired of turn based cutscene slop

It's just that PS1 J-RPG were miles better than PS2 J-RPG
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>>12259248
This.
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>>12259173
Wasn't it the newer Monolith staff for XS2 themselves who told Soraya to fuck off.
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Let us got to the root of the matter: Evangelion was garbage.
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>>12259173
Same thing they were thinking about not bringing a lot of the Tales of games out of nipland. They have retard bean counters making decisions.
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>>12259329
No, she resigned herself to. Her husband was the ceo
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>>12259405
Her husband was also put away from XS2, Soraya said Monolith's staff for XS2 and 3 did not ask her to return. http://xenogearsxenosagastudyguide.blogspot.com/p/sorayas-faqs-from-2005.html
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>>12259182
They kept fucking with and changing so no two games in the trology look the same. They just couldn't do like FFX/FFX-2 or the .HACK games and re-use the assets for making the next game. Poor planning by the development team as well as NAMCO demands kept development expensive.

And this was one of those games where it took a fucking year to get after the Japanese release.
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>>12259452
Yes but it was namco who booted her out buddy not the staff doing a coup
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>>12259467
Japanese devs had poor planning unlike the west despite having the skill
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>>12259523
Proof of that? That link claims the opposite and she still did Pied Piper for them.
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It's a pretty simple matter of someone doing the math, realizing Xenosaga Episode VI as Takahashi and his wife had planned them would probably end up releasing in about 2023, and doing something else.
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>>12259173
It was a gay remake of Xenogears where they didn't even bother to finish the story again.

I don't have fucking time for that shit. What I signed up for was an enhanced, finished Xenogears, not this alternate dimension retelling shit. I feel like they weren't trying very hard with this game.
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>>12259173
Xenosaga sucks. Albedo and jerking off to KOS-MOS are the only fun things about it. The second chapter is on the top ten list of all-time bad jarpigs.
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>>12259692
Shut the fuck up
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>>12260753
Eat shit.
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>>12260760
nigger.
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>>12261728
Nigredo.
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>>12259173
Xenosaga was bad and you should feel bad.
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The first game has an amazing soundtrack but other than that it's pretty standard jarpig with anime star wars and NGE story elements
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>>12259173
This is around the moment animeslop completely fucked rpgs
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>>12261803
And all Atlus 7/10 titles became 10/10 this was a fair gaem except for nocturne
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>>12259189
>Companies don’t allow a sequel if the game didn’t sell
Thus no xenosaga 4
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>>12259182
They fired the original writers for 2 and killed it momentum there.
They got back for 3 but the damage was fucking done. They had to finish the job and move on from there.
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>>12259336
But Key was kino
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Just a reminder Camelot Software was going to work on a Xenogears inspired game for the Game Boy Advance.
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>>12259173
>and being sent to the Zelda dungeon
Lol someone caught up with the news
>Nintendo stated they're letting Monolith Soft wear the bigboy shoes for Zelda
>Monolith Goykyo: We're gonna get everyone on this project!! LFG!!!!
Probably one of the most disappointing things i hear last week. They're probably going to make The Legend of Zelda - Versus Calamity instead of maybe an OoT/TP like Zelda with strong gameplay elements and storytelling that isn't fucking outsourced to kid show anime writers.
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>>12262639
>an OoT/TP like Zelda
I once made a thread about how a ghost writer/dev made those games and he's probably not in nintendo anymore. nin does it to this day, monolith worked a lot on botw but people think thier role is mild because nin doesn't credit them strongly
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>>12263834
If that's true shouldn't the gigaleak have a list of personal information that should be dugged up already?
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>>12265195
That leak was for game freak not really Nintendo
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>>12261754
>The first game has an amazing soundtrack
It's just too bad there's very little of it. It went for a more ambient approach, which made the game feel a little empty and boring at times.
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>>12259173
Xenosaga takes too long to get interesting. The first 2/3 of the game is a slog and the last 1/3 is excellent.
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>>12265491
>The last 1/3 is excellent
I must have dropped it just before that part, because I was extremely bored. I liked the battle system in the game though.



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