this is basically just OOT but worsemore overworld padding (sailing) and less actual dungeons. its baffling to me that people complained about the art direction of all things.
the overworld is the only good thing in zelda games, the dungeons are fucking awful, literally just 'use the item you found at the beginning of the dungeon for the whole dungeon, then never use it again'also one button combat
>>12263154They turned into that with Majora, OOT dungeons were fine
It is arguably the first and only masterpiece in video games.
>>12263104>its baffling to me that people complainedSo a couple of things. We were promised a more mature zelda. We were shown a gritty, edgy, adult link, crossing blades with the big bad.We got a cartoon wonderland and a goofy cast of characters.The recoil from that shock is what did everyone in. People couldn't understand what Nintendo was doing, and felt lied to. Their first experience to the game was a massive negative one because they fucking suck at marketing. They couldn't overlook the cartoony flair because it's nearly the exact opposite of what they were expecting to receive. Also, that time period was where console games have already moved into darker experiences for their vidya to age with the audiences of gamers from the 90s. Gaming was moving culturally from a toy for kids play with, to a hobby for adults. That was a huge part of Sony and Microsoft's marketing direction. So to see something that visually went the other way from one of the biggest IPs was confusing. There is a lot more, but to keep it simple, it went against the trends, it was advertised extremely poorly, and the PR was horrible.
>>12263190As a result windwaker sold only half as well as OOT
>>12263104Unfortunately GC Nintendo was broke and desperate to release games early.
It was all especially bizarre because Zelda is The Thing that Nintendo was always able to whip out and use to demonstrate that they were The Best and that all the fancy attempts other companies were doing couldn't compete with that they were able to pull off.
>>12263104>>12263190Nintendo marketing and the magazines at the time
>>12263104>this game is worse than the greatest game of all timeholy shit is this true????????
Zelda games were cartoony from the start. The only people who were upset were insecure retards obsesed with "mature" games.
>>12263638I never had issue with Zelda having an anime art style, people who are in denial about this and try to post Terada's drawings to imply Zelda was always 'dark fantasy' are just being dishonest.But WW's in game graphical style was unprecedentedly childish for no reason. 8+ year olds, who are the main target audience of the series, want epic feeling fantasy that makes them feel like they're on an awesome journey, something Zelda always aimed to do well, as opposed to something that distinctly looks like it's for 3 year olds.
>>12263638They weren’t “Link making wacky faces at the camera as he tricks the bad guys into running off a ledge and stopping in midair before falling down” level of cartoony prior. That reveal was a disgrace.
>>12263323>we understand your complaints>but we recommend you buy it anywaynintendo damage control never really changed
>>12263104>>12263154>>12263190Why can't we just admit the games aren't good at all? The point of games is mastery and mastering zelda takes seconds and the rest of the games is just repeating this rote exercise until the credits roll. Awful games. We can move on and focus on what we like.
>>12263104The worst thing about WW is that they shoved Toon Link design everywhere for a decade. Now Nintendo does the same except with BOTW Link's ugly blue tunic. Toon Link is their version of Cal-Arts and of course millenials love it>>12263708Nice bait bro, you can say the same for every other game by saying you mastered the basic gameplay loop and controls by the end of the tutorial and there's no point in playing anymore because it's just rote repetition afterwards.
>>12263323>>12263705Reminds me to when Reggie tried to do damage control for it a whole decade later and thinking the WiiU version would do well, despite the GameCube original having sluggish sales in North America and NoA telling so to NCL being the entire fucking reason TP changed course.>Here’s what I would state: we know what our fans want. We will also push the envelope in developing something that we know is high-quality and that we know will deliver in the marketplace. The best example I can give you of this, and I think you will appreciate it, is Legend of Zelda Wind Waker. Remember when that art style was first shown. The uproar from the Zelda community was intensely negative. If there had been social media then, there probably would have been a petition to make that game go away.>So, the game is developed, becomes one of the most beloved games of all time, one of the most highly-rated games of all time, so I use that example to say: ‘We know what we’re doing, trust us, play the game and then we can have a conversation.’
>>12263721>there's no point in playing anymore because it's just rote repetition afterwards.This is literally true of zelda unless you're really enraptured by the extremely original ideas of fire level, ice level, forest level, graveyard level, sand level where you go in and push blocks and play the song and do 1 button combat.
>>12263723>play the game and then we can have a conversationIt's very funny when PR suits boil their entire argument down to, "buy our product before you decide you don't want it", and then you're expected to take that seriously.
>>12263731The point of Zelda is that it gives you insanely interactive worlds to explore, in ways that basically nothing else does.
>>12263104Um people complained about the game too. Why do you think Oot kept making best of lists while this one remained absent unless you got like 300 in?
