Why is this the only atari thats ever talked about? wasnt there a 5200 and a 7800?
>>12265193Those sucked and were kind of gay.
>>12265193By the time the 7800 was a thing the NES was already out and making atari games look like a fucking joke.
>>12265193It was massively more successful than the other two.However, the Atari 5200 is kind of underrated in terms of early adopter owners having fond memories of the games. If you had a 5200 in 1982-83 you were pretty cool.
>>122651977800 probably would've probably had a more positive legacy if it released in 1984 as planned
>>12265193The shovelware on the 2600 is what caused the video game crash of the early 80s. The name was a bit tainted after that. I was just a little kid when it happened but I remember my local drugstore got a huge dump bin of 2600 games for only $1 each so I appreciate that.
>>12265193The 7800 at least plays all the 2600 games too which is a nice feature. That's basically what you'll end up using it for for most of the time since the actual 7800 library is very small
>>12265193who the fuck is yars and why does he want revenge against me?
>>12265193The Atari 5200 is basically an Atari 400 Microcomputer with an additional 8K of work RAM and a simplified built-on BIOS. It is almost the exact same hardware. The 7800 has the same 6502c CPU as the 5200, and runs at the same clock speed. But it only has 4KB of workRAM, vs the 16KB in the 5200. The 7800 has worse audio, as it uses the TIA chip found in the 2600. The 5200 has a Pokey chip. But the 7800 could have a Pokey chip in the cartridge. There was only like one game that did this. The 7800 has better sprite capabilities. But renders every object on-screen as a sprite. Which is exactly how the Lynx works, as well as the Jaguar. The 7800 has 2600 backwards compatibility, In some ways it was better than the NES, in other ways it was clearly worse. Releasing it in 1986 was a knee jerk reaction to the NES launch, as the 7800 was planned for 1984 but shelved. The NES is a piece of hardware from 1983.
Wait until you hear about the Atari Jaguar, OP.
>>12265193the 5200 was kind of a flop.and nobody knew about the 7800.>>12265220My cousin had a 5200 which I thought was cool. But every other time I visited, it was out for repair.
>>12265257I always thought Yar was the name of the race of aliens you fight in the game, meaning that they're collectively the Yars. As for why they want revenge, I do not know.
>>12265352Jag is cool.
>>12265193The 5200 was a disaster that greatly contributed to the industry crash of 1983 and sunk Atari's reputation.The 7800 has a tiny library and an awful controller if you weren't in Europe and it was overshadowed by both the NES and the Master System.
>>12265630It's interesting from a historical standpoint, but it wasn't a good game console.
>>12265193Because it was extremely popular and successful, the others flopped hard.
>>12265193The Atari Lynx was a very impressive handheld that really deserved to beat the Gameboy. For all the faults Atari had after the early 80's that was extremely nice technology for the time
5200 sucked and made you want to go back to the 26007800 was a worse NES with no games whose only good feature was 2600 backwards compatibility.
>>12265309So the best machine would've been a 7800 with 5200's 16 KB of workRAM, and both TIA (for backwards compatibility) and Pokey chips.
>>12265774Interesting "opinion." Jag is cool, and fun to play.
>>12265916It's a piece of shit nobody bought
>>12265918...yet it plays great. Interesting opinion, non-player.
>5200Was shit>7800Ok, but completely fucking overshadowed by the NES
Just think, if they never died we'd be at the Atari 256000000000
>>12265197Sorry, chud, but those outside of /pol/ don't tolerate your homophobia.
>>12265193The 5200 is a good machine held back by its shitty controllers and a library of only 69 games. I've got two 5200s and five working controllers between them and most of the time I just use it for the VCS cartridge adapter so I don't have to go behind the TV and plug my Heavy Sixer in. I'd just rather play Activision's 2600 games over the 5200 library I have most of the time.Zero experience with the 7800 but it came out after the NES, so it was doomed from the start.
>>12265193I remember as a teen when this first came out. It was the thing, even with it's crappy graphics.
>>12265791The displaylist approach to graphics was a bit weird for gamedevs used to sprites+tiles. Tends to be why the library is split into iffy 2D games on the bad end and impressive pseudo 3D on the high end with very little in the middle. Hardware with a steep learning curve tends to fair worse regardless of what awaits you at the top of Mt. Awesome.
the government should've forced nintendo to sell 50% of their stock to atari in order to enter the us market
>>12265791Impressive in what ways?The question with any console is always1. Games(Power gap)2. Games3. Price, and for handhelds, convenience (size, weight & portability, battery life, etc)
>>12265257>>12265562>they didn't read the included comic>>12265309>Releasing it in 1986 was a knee jerk reaction to the NES launchNo, that was when the lawsuit (over who owned it, because the split-up and sale of Atari was a fucking fiasco) was finally settled. It would have released sooner if not for that.>>12265990NTA, my best friend had one. Blue Lightning was fucking amazing as a launch title, and Gates of Zendocon is an excellent game too. Main problem for the Lynx (outside of the Sisyphean task of wrenching developer support away from Nintendo's iron grip) was terrible battery life. Other than that, it was a great little handheld.
>>12265990It had many cool features like the ability to flip the screen to accommodate left handed gamers and even vertically on others. The battery life similarly to the Game Gear was not good and a definite flaw. It has a small library like the 5200 and 7800 though the games are generally of decent quality.
>>12265910>So the best machine would've been a 7800 with 5200's 16 KB of workRAM, and both TIA (for backwards compatibility) and Pokey chips.I don't really know what is the better machine of the two. The 5200 seems to handle sprites much closer to the way the NES works, with 8 sprites per scan line and tile based backgrounds. Some homebrew devs seem to be able to get it to do NES like side scrolling: The 5200 is like a Atari 400/800 home computer turned into a console. The 400/800 RAM can be upgraded up to like 512kb or so. the 5200 is stuck at 16kb. https://youtu.be/bADtJ2LvlPMThe 7800 can display 'unlimited' sprites, draws all background tiles and sprite layers as sprites. Depending on the game, this could be better or worse. https://youtu.be/bTXO_shS-CAThey both seem to have the same CPU. But the graphics chips are different. The 5200 has better audio, But the 7800 can have a pokey audio chip in the cartridge. Which was only used by Ballblazer. I never owned either of these consoles. I had a 2600 jr. as a kid.
>>12265791the problem with all the color handhelds of the time (lynx/game gear/etc) is the godawful battery life. so the only real use case for them as a handheld was if your family car's back seat had a cigarette lighter outlet and you owned the cigarette ac adapter so you could actually play it on road trips and shit. but forget taking it anywhere and playing for more than 20 minutes
Ballblazer 5200: https://youtu.be/ZzE5cJCI9toBallblazer 7800: https://youtu.be/smoxSCmoYnYThey practically have the same sound track. 7800 has the pokey chip in the cartridge, while the 5200 has one built into the system. The 7800 game looks a bit smoother. But they look pretty similar. There's the NES Ballblazer, which looks like a pretty good port. But not as smooth as the other two. https://youtu.be/QRw4m_EAPxA?t=3
>>12265193The 5200 and 7800 had relatively few apps
>>12266878>The 7800 game looks a bit smoother.Having played it, the 7800 version's background scrolling was shockingly smooth. It's a shame that none of the 7800's racing games are THAT smooth.
>>12265957gb2 resetera
>>12266909>Having played it, the 7800 version's background scrolling was shockingly smooth. It's a shame that none of the 7800's racing games are THAT smooth.Yeah, the more I look at the 7800 version, it is really smooth. Like perfect 60fps smooth. The 5200 takes a second place, and doesn't look bad in comparison. I think the NES port is the weakest of the three. Pole Position II on the 7800 looks alright, very reminiscent of a NES ;into the screen racer'. The audio doesn't sound good because its using the TIA chip. https://youtu.be/GQCKCdLlbhQPole Position on the 5200: everything looks lower resolution, tiles have no detail: https://youtu.be/zu8UW1qtlVgBut the fake 3D effect looks good and the audio sounds better.
>>12265957Ok, funny bait
What are the must play 5200 exclusives??
>>12265193Every 5200 in the wild back then was always broken and 7800s were ultra rare because most had moved on to the NES in 1986 that debuted the same year, is why.
>>12265640>The 5200 was a disaster that greatly contributed to the industry crash of 1983 and sunk Atari's reputation.This. It was those damn controllers. The old AVGN video wasn't lying. Those hunks of junk broke within weeks of its launch.
>>12268983>AVGNgo away
>>12268954i don't know the full library, but Space Dungeon and Countermeasure come to mind.From quick googling, looks like they only appeared on the 5200 in its day. SD was ported from the arcade, and looks like CM was later converted to the 8bit.
>>12265990Besides being like a portable 16-bit arcade game from 1984-1989 its chosen arcade titles are important because no one else has done them correctly. It was THE best portable console back then. Anyone who saw it was impressed. Trouble is, not many saw it.
>>12268985Bah humbug to you too!
>w-what about Atari?There are like 2-3 threads with this topic up, NO, nobody cares so stop trying to milk this gay shit with another demake with a couple licensed gaymes. STOP IT you fucking stupid assholes.There are emulators. They do a great job. Organically, barely anybody gives a fuck. That's the problem. I saw you assholes pushing the fucking "new Spectrum" like a bunch of sore thumb gaywad shills might do. Now you're gearing up, did your boss already buy the IP? Or gonna make an offer? Or this is some gay attempt to create a buzz? Should I check Reddit and Fark for Atari threads? I mean you still do Fark don't you?Fucking idiots.
>>12269047>another demake with a couple licensed gaymesWhat the fuck are you talking about? What thread do you think you're in? Do you need medical assistance?
>>12266959>Pole Position IIHonestly a solid game, but you can see the side markers on the track warp and "snap" to the next angle a lot more in turns than, say, Hang-On on the SMS. I think the hardware is up to the task, but Motor-Psycho and Fatal Run also have the same problem.
>>12265959>five working controllersYou lucky bastard! I have two controllers, both of which are completely hosed in different ways. >Zero experience with the 7800Imagine a 5200, but with better graphics, worse sound, and you can just use a genesis controller with or without an adapter depending on the game. The library consists of generally decent arcade ports and weird late 80s home computer shit. Imo it's best as a multiplayer machine since you can play co-op asteroids, centipede, and probably a few others my drunk ass can't remember atm.
>>12269047>retro games board>angry people discuss the same retro consolesShould I make another ps1 thread? Maybe another snes thread? Or do you want a new retro console that doesn't exist thread?
>>12269383Oh but SHHHOULD Atari make a totally licensed thing? Wow that would be NEATO! I don't suppose they'd consider making it... in a Chinese handheld form factor too?
>>12269428Wrong thread, retard, go be stupid over here: >>12262587
>>122651935200 has good games but shit hardware.7800 has ok games and ok hardware.
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>>122651935200 is only twice as good as 2600. and 7800 is only 3 times as good. but 2600 is infinitely times more good than what came before it, which was 0
>>12265193i rarely see 2600 discussion either. people just dont talk about this era of console games that much at all because there isnt really much to talk about. most games were very simple, fleeting experiences. even the more grandiose titles (montezumas revenge, pitfall) just werent that great and usually had some combination of poor controls/movement. vintage hot rods will always be popular but no one gives a shit about model T's anymore
