Retro games that aged like cheese
>>12269395Why does he have popeye arms
>>12269395Grow up with the n64Never seen ff7 until adulthood Still can't tell how people find those ridiculous looking models acceptable first time I saw them I thought it was from a bootleg game.
>>12269395How has the chemical structure of Final Fantasy VII changed over time?
>>12269404Its lack of consistent art style has become a putrid mess to the modern human eye.
>>12269418So people have become more ignorant over time, rather than the game itself changing?
>>12269395>aged like cheeseWhat does it even mean? Some cheeses age very good, some very badWhich one is it
>>12269402It's not that bad until you see VIII ans IX on the same hardware.
>>12269395Games don't age, it was dick cheese on release
>>12269395prime example of how 3d gaming didnt get good until ps2
>>12269526It's a better game than anything on PS2
For some reason nearly any non-CDi Mario game from any console or year will be fun. Sorry haters
When people say something has "aged", what they mean is that "it's not like modern standards".Considering that modern standards suck, saying that something "aged" is actually a compliment towards the game and all that word does is show how shallow the taste of the person using it is.You can't deny my flawless logic.
>>12269395Is that a fuckin lego man
>>12269604Flawless logic
if you actually played the game for more than an hour you would get used to the lego chibi models and start to like them due to all the endearing animations and then you might even get to appreciate one of the best written and best sounding rpgs ever made. too bad youre all mentally disabled fucking retards who dont play games.
>>12269395This was one of the few games that really needed a remake, just an actually faithful one and not the abomination we got.
>>12269402>>12269503The models are stylized so they're readable even at a distance. You don't get scenes like the Corel reactor in FFVIII and IX because the more realistic models would be reduced to vague blobs at that scale.
>>12269473I interpreted it as adults and people with proper taste appreciate aged cheese while zoomsters and retards dont. Its honestly a decent metaphor although I wouldnt consider FF7 as an acquired taste its more like liking FF7 is normal and if you dont theres something wrong with you.
>>12269670VII needed a help function to point out exits and characters, because devs weren't that good at making the frames yet.
>>12269685>being personally offended by people not liking a video game you like
>>12269401For animated clarity at low resolutions. So that when you see him shrug, point, strike a pose, run, recline on a bench, hang onto a ledge, grab head in pain, and so on, the viewer identifies what it means. It's funny and stylized. The saddest part is that within 4 years of FF7, almost the entire industry slipped into the uncanny valley and nearly 25 years later still haven't emerged on the other side. FF7 models look silly in screenshots but modern cutscenes are nauseating.
>>12269701Claiming it's dated isn't the same as just not liking it.
>>12269701Observing reality isnt "being personally offended" did you just learn words today?
>>12269701that's 80% of the posts on here. it's even sadder when you realize grown men in their mid/late 30s are making the posts
>>12269395When I was younger I didn't understand why the characters looked they way they did while their battle screen models looked so good in comparison. A couple of years later I discovered anime and manga and learned about SD. I still think that their arms and hands look really bad.
I like how cinema, music and literature can age, but for some reason you worthless maggots that have min wage jobs and barely an education, somehow come with the biggest mental gymnastics to justify that videogames dont age, and videogame graphics/mechanics are timeless.
>>12269978>I like how cinema, music and literature can agehey genius, did you think for a second that maybe those things dont age either? Heres a good tip for the future, if you are easily winning arguments with strawmen in your head maybe the person creating the strawmen isnt very smart.
>>12269693You get that exact thing by pressing the select button...
>>12269984That's the exact thing I'm talking about. 8 didn't need that help function. Devs had more experience creating those screens, and did a beautiful job.
>>12269693At first the devs didnt think they needed them considering the Japanese version of the game didnt ship with the exit indicators. Those only got added for the international version
What's with all the FF VII hate lately? Are zoomers that upset that their PS4 and PS5 slop isn't as well regarded?
>>12269982if you are too retarded to not know that in every cinema school they will teach you that old film pacing and structure has become obsolete, that old literature is slow, linear and over-descriptive about meaningless details, and that even old music -which arguably is the art that suffers the less about ageing- uses super basic chords and tempos, then its not my problem you are ignorantthe problem with dumbasses like you is that for every rare case of something good being made 100 years ago, you dismiss the fact theres was another 1000 examples of absolute trash nobody remembers.Nowadays theres plenty of games that may be good, or may be bad, but at least all of them are playable and dont require not even seconds to grasp the controls. I can name 100 games alone from a single year in the 80's that are unplayable unless you read a 10 page instruction manual.
>>12270007yessee >>12270009
>>12269395I would say Alundra has aged like denim.
>>12270009Yes yes, we get it, newer = better and the best selling most critically acclaimed games of the 90's are all trash. Epic 10/10 troll to you, well done. Or maybe it's not troll and you genuinely believe shitting on the classics of the past makes you and your taste grow or something or is a way to tell yourself you have it soooo gooood now, either way very original, we've never seen posts like this on /vr/ before.
>>12269604One of the most sensible posts I've read in the 20 something years I've wasted on this website.Well done, anon.>>12269997By contrast, posts comparing 7 to 8 or 6 have become incredibly tiresome. Yes, all these games do something different that different people may prefer. 7 has an obvious flaw with its visual design being an early attempt at polygonal/prerendered jrpg design. It makes up for a lot of that by having a ton of optional and more signficantly, diverse side content compared to 8 or 6 which makes a larger impression to me personally.
>>12270027dude, you need to chill the fuck out. Theres ANY point in my post that im actually shitting in all the classic videogames?all im saying is a.videogames as any other medium age and b.some aspects from these videogames age much worsethats all. FFVII is excellent from a gameplay, soundtrack, plot and game design perspective. Is just the graphics and the 3D FMV just look terrible in comparison to the rest of the game.Stop being such a faggot and dont have any critical thinking ffs.
>>12270031Don't be so sensitive and defensive. Nothing wrong with appreciating improvements. The devs had experience and talent. It doesn't take anything away from their past work with VII.
>>12270009Parroting opinions learned in academic institutions and using any sort of formal design theory is exactly the reason everything these days has become forgettable.Sorry, but one of my pet peeves is the slopification of media caused by art school graduates who value some design theory they don't even understand over making an attempt at genuine artistic expression.Theory or rules exist to provide guidance to those who aren't easily able to intuit what is appealing, but nothing significant exists just by copying what could obviously be classified as appealing. You have to take risks. Many of the devs that made games with long manuals might have had a vision that is much more fascinating than just following trends or chasing sales. I applaud that effort even if it doesn't work out for a lot of people trying it.
>>12270050People of the past weren't dumber than nowA good game is a good game ,that will never change
>>12269395Chrono Trigger
>>12270057You're right, my original reply was going to be much saltier but I reread your post and tried to tone it down. I get frustrated by a lot of anons that just make low effort posts to shit on games that I want more people to.experience, so I apologize for that. I did feel I had to say something, just because someone has to play defense once in a while.
>>12270068It's ok, I understand
>>12269395I dont get this type of thinking particularly with retro.Like doesn't matter how good a game looked or played for its time, zoomers/millennials will think it's shit.Like people will shit on Medal of Honor for not having checkpoints or the average shooter that doesn't have that "wait and the health regenerates itself" from modern games.Or with RPG if its turn based or has random encounters.
>>12270068>I get frustrated by a lot of anons that just make low effort posts to shit on games that I want more people to.experience,you're a faggot
>>12270074That's not a nice very nice thing to say on Christian kwanzaa
>>12270072Yes and no, it's definitely more about controls an mechanics of the game, rather than just muh graphics. Something like Super Mario 64 still gets a pass, but 90's 3D games with janky tank controls will just weird out modern gamers, even if we're fine with them.
>>12270089Automatisation and awfull inertia is ok with modern gamers?Because that's what modern gaming is
>>12270050You sound scared
>>12270089I dont think games that played like shit even by that time standards should qualify for "aging like X" when it was rotten from the go.
>>12269418Thats weird because I think ff7 looks stylish and good and think modern games look like realistic dog shit
>>12269395But doesn't cheese get better with age? What are you trying to get at here, OP?
ITT: /v/ doesn't get itCheese gets BETTER with age
You can't really say FF7 got better, it's more like FF as a series got progressively worse.
>>12270134How many 30 years old cheese did you eat? It's the same with wine btw. After a certain number of years it becomes literally non consumable.
>>12270142That depends entirely on the preservation process used thobeit.Not every wine or cheese ages well, but there are various methods of preperation and storage so it's not a universal rule that something can't be aged for longer periods of time.It should also be said, cheese was mosf likely discovered as a method of preserving milk, so in that context it is aging wonderfully.
>>12269395thread is 50+ replies deep and no one has mentioned the screenshot is of 2010s re-release? the original ps1 version did not have the line mouth.
>>12270124ff7 is a all time masterpiece, like parmesan cheese
>>12270184Who gives a shit? It still looks like Lego blocks and asshole
>>12270290>Who gives a shit?>>12270290-------------------^
>>12270059As a mini exercise on /lit/ a few months ago, I tried to think of something like 10 famous and popular male authors from the last 100-150 years and looked up the background of each one. There was only ONE(1) with a traditional "English Major" went to college for writing background, and it was Dan Brown. A few like Mark Twain had backgrounds in printing or journalism but not literary theory or any of that shit. Others were engineers or doctors, lots had military backgrounds.
In 2001 when I got into IX then X I refused to play VII.I thought it was "overhyped," tried playing it and got turned off by the graphics. It was so ugly to me, already, less than 5 years after release. I didn't play it until 04-05 when I had already beaten most other FFs. Now it's probably my favorite game. You guys might be cucking yourself out of a really good time by not playing it because it "looks ugly."
>>12270385honestly if you cant get past the field models playing the pc version with a mod that swaps them with better looking models is the way to go.They really should've just had an option for the battle models in the field when they ported them to modern consoles.
>>12270009exquisite bait
>>12270290Is that what your dad said when you were born and your mom was asking what name they should give you?
>>12270421Playing a model mod on PC makes people with taste realize how good the original lego block models actually are and how silly it is to complain about a trivial matter of aesthetics that mostly only matters in still photos. The blocky models are functional and appealing under the constraints they were designed for. Full size models always look stupid when animated, especially the animations designed for the SD models.
>>12269670They already are vague blobs on the or hardware, the resolution was not very good.Besides you're wrong, all you would need is to change the front area to be closer to the camera and you can still have that type of shot.
>>12270573kek
>>12270751>all you would need is to change the front area to be closer to the camera and you can still have that type of shot.This is why FF7 is one of the most successful games ever made and you've never sold a game in your life.
>>12269604>saying that something "aged" is actually a compliment towards the game "old=good/new=bad" isn't better than "new=good/old=bad"
>>12270781What are you even talking about? This is the kind of thing they themselves did in later games.There's a reason why Square abandoned the blocky look after FF7.
>>12269395Play it at the proper resolution and it won't look nearly as weird.
Unfortunately retro developers couldn't anticipate how stupid the modern gamer would turn out to be 30 years later
>>12270573Yes, I look like a character model from FFVII
And not just ANY cheese
>>12269418I don't agree. Early 3D and cruddy-looking prerendered 3D backgrounds like this always looked ugly to me. They were ugly then and they're ugly now.
>>12270792>reasonBecause they wanted to make realistic CGI movies, right?Didn't work out.
Roundhouse kick zoomers into concrete.
>>12269557Mario's Time Machine SNES isn't fun
>>12270706shut the fuck up bro you're a tryhard. the blocky models are tolerable but by no means pretend theyre some kind of acquired taste and beautiful. At best you can argue their shittiness makes the prerendered backgrounds look amazing by contrast
we used to make fun of graphixwhores, now they attack each other.
>>12271709Cloud still looks ridiculous here, and I was born in 91
>>12271895>I was born in 91Am I supposed to be impressed by that, kiddo?
>>12271709images would be even more striking if cloud didnt look like shit
>>12271895Being born in 91 means you were too young for FF7 when it came out which places your opinion in the same tier as zoomers. I was born in 91 and think FF7 looks great, big deal.
>>12271908kek what a self hating faggot
>>12269395
>>1227190891 isn’t too young. I was born in 90 and got the game in 2000, when 9 was new and 7 was still talked about a lot in the AOL video game chat rooms (I doing think I was on game faqs yet but probably there too). Not many kids knew about it in school though except this 1 kid who was who told me about Zelda originally. But the video game magazines and chat rooms everyone was still arguing if ff7 was the best. The delay was mostly that I was an n64 kid as I got Zelda Christmas 98 and it was perfect for the time for my age. By 2000 I wanted to get into more resident evil games and check out final fantasy and they had the cheap psone console. That said anyone who is bothered by the blocky graphics of ff7 are big retards, it’s not even something you really pay attention to. Most of the time you’re in battle which has more realistic bodies. If you aren’t enjoying the different materia combos and setups, leveling them and whatever, you’re missing the main fun part of the game. That plus the story being pretty interesting is what makes it the best final fantasy. My second favorite is ff5 because the combos you can get from leveling the different jobs is also fun.
>>12272423First parenthesis should say I don’t think
>>12269395I was born 3 years after this game released, playing it now for the first time and I'm liking it a lot so far. I don't really mind the blocky character models because it's clear to me they tried going for a 3D chibi style outside of battles, even though it was obviously mishandled. For me it makes seeing the full character models in battles all the more rewarding.
FF7 aged like fine milk.
>>12269395I was born 87 years ago. For 65 years I ruled as Tamriel's emperor. But for all these years, I've never liked chibi anime characters.
>>12272461>I was born 87 years ago. For 65 years I ruled as Tamriel's emperor.Not retro
Most fmv games, they usually played like ass given their limitations and only used presentation as their selling point. So nowadays their only strength has aged the worst of it all so they now have shit visuals to add to their shit gameplay.Low budget, shitty video quality, production values that make made for tv movies look like blockbusters and no fun to boot.
>>12269395I know someone who was born in 1967 and they really like FF7.
>>12269395VGA versions of EGA games
>>12270124he cute
Super R-Type 3 The Third Lightning on SNES.Always the NTSC-J version since anything resembling a penis or sperm got censored into eyeballs in the NTSC-US versionhttps://youtu.be/djW3WTEU-LE
All of the classic SNK/neogeo fighters: aof 1 - , fatfury 1 - 3, rbff, rotd, kof '95 - 2003.
>>12272596>fmv>shitty video qualityon a similar note, 'GBA Video'. i remember not wanting to download a (whopping) 700 MB torrent of Shrek, but hey, how bad can this 32 MB GBA ROM be?turns out, pretty fucking bad.
