>be 23>parents are entering their 50s>they and their same aged friends go on about Atari 2600 and early arcade days>show my dad a few games in my collection that would've been contemporary to him in his teens-early 30s>not familiar with Doom 64>not familiar with God of War>not familiar with Resident Evil>not familiar with SotN>doesn't recognize any of my NES games save the Mario/Duck Hunt cartridge>same with mom>same with friendsIs this just a specific thing to my family's social circle or is there some weird common knowledge gap with gen X'ers and anything between 1985 and 2007? My parents were toddlers when the 2600 came out
video games were a more niche thing in their time, plus they probably didnt have time for that shit anyway once they were raising kids
>>12271746Yeah post-Super Mario and 3D gaming were two big jumping off points where the current gen left and a new gen of consumers hopped in.
>>12271746You have to have playing video games as a hobby to know about video games. Methinks the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
>>12271746>>not familiar with Doom 64Understandable, most people only hward of Doom maybe Doom 2, and Wold3D. >>not familiar with God of WarWell that's a zoomer game>>not familiar with Resident EvilWeird, especially considering it's a mainstream IP with a movie universe>>not familiar with SotNSotN being popular is a post-2000s thing, the game didn't sell that much at release and didn't make any real noise until later when people started yearning for 2D again, once 3D became the norm and the novelty wore off, during 6th gen>>doesn't recognize any of my NES games save the Mario/Duck Hunt cartridgeWhat NES games do you have?
>>12271752>Well that's a zoomer game2005 and 2007?>What NES games do you have?Blaster Master, CV I-III, Cobra Triangle, Iron Tank, Metroid, Metal Gear 1/2, NES Open, Operation Wolf, Super C, Tetris, Zelda 1/2. I lied, he recognized Tetris as well
>>12271746>some weird common knowledge gaptalk about lacking common sense
>autistic kid from next door starts bothering me about some dumbass games>pretend I've never seen them before so he goes away quicker
>pretend my family talks to me>make thread
>>12271757What would you do if someone came up to you and started a conversation about how they remember your game system and then show no familiarity with a common game for that system from when they'd be in the target audience range?
>>12271762I do nothing and think they don't play video games as a hobby but remember the system. Are you retarded?
>>12271746I have this working theory that gaming past the age of 18 simply wasn't normal until around PS1 era. You were supposed to grow out of video games like you were with Saturday morning cartoons
>>12271780What science fiction books have you read?
>>12271772That would track if they didn't claim to be into it to a hobby level back then, which they're prone to doing
>>12271754I wouldn't expect hit to recognise any of those except for tetris and maybe zelda.
>>12271783What? This is gibberish.It tracks because it's self-evident.Besides, this isn't close to the OP's scenario, since the Atari isn't the NES. Autism lesson. Different people like different things and non-hobbyists don't have a conception of a hobby strong enough to place themselves within it, if they attempt to do it's simply because they aren't even well-versed enough to grok basic familiarity as understood by hobbyists.
>>12271780Forgot image>>12271782U wat?
>>12271801I'm making fun of you for thinking any particular interest is universal, even among children.You're an idiot.
>>12271801>lmao what a fucking nerdThats what people would have thought about him at the time.
Atari was like having a board game like Candy Land. My mom loved her brother's atari but would have no idea about NES or genesis. It was a different time.
>>12271806No they wouldn't. Nerds were smart then.That man isn't smart. Video games weren't really associated with nerds, more computers and books and glasses and calculators.
My parents and other adults only cared about golden-era arcade games and early nes games (black box nintendo games and the like).
>>12271746those are mostly computer games not arcade games. you could go to an arcade for $5 and spend all day there, while a computer cost a couple grand and was obsolete next year
>>12271801>Mark DiscordiaPraise Bob!
>>12271746Current 30 year olds grew up with videogames, 30 year olds back then didn't, it's as simple as that.Plus people are counting years faster due to time compression, which means a 30 year old today represents a 20 year old in the 90sConsider that the simpsons were meant to represent people in their 30s
>>12271812Sorry I meant.>lmao what a fucking dork/dweeb
>>12271746>Is this just a specific thing to my family's social circleNo. Litterally no grownups want to talk to you.
>>12271746Most people that are your parent's ages are forgetting tons of stuff, anon. Sorry. Encourage them to eat right and to exercise if you want them to recall more.
>>12271801>East Lyme, CTRip in pastaronis.He seemed based tho.
>>12271746The majority of Gen X are clueless about anything tech related released post 1995.A small percentage managed to thrive in the computer world, but I'd say like 80% of Gen Xers don't even know how to use a PC if it's not strictly work related.They kinda managed to understand phones/smartphones, but not really and that's why they get scammed constantly, fuck up their devices regularly, etc.In terms of gaming, it's rare for them to know about anything post NES. My dad is early Gen X (1968) and he basically knows Pacman from the arcade, Mario, Duck Hunt, Punch out and iirc he knows what Sonic is because he remembers a few commercials from the early 90s.
>>12272187Why do you retards think generations have anything to do with IQ? You came from a dumbass, you probably are a dumbass. That's the real useful anecdote here.
>>12271746Zoomer here my earliest memories was seeing my mommy and daddy playing Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec. I don't even think I was in preschool yet or maybe I was anyways they were getting filtered and their gamer rage woke me up and I got disciplined for waking up. Kinda fucked but also kinda cool my parents were basically gamers. Sorry your parents weren't gamers OP.>>12271749>they probably didnt have time for that shit anyway once they were raising kidsPretty easy if you only have one kid.
>>12272187I'm a later-Gen X "cohort" and I'm my Boomer mom's tech support and I'm fine with that. I am no guru, but I can video edit, mod games, dad worked at Nintendo;etc.
Well OP, did your parents actually own any games back then? Because not everybody was into them, even back then. Or at the very least, not as much into them as you and I.
>>12271801>stay away from drugs kids you need all your senses when you go up against video game foesBASED PRO GAMER
>>12271746Most people I know who "grew up" kinda forgot about video games.
>>12271746in your parents generation the vast majority of people werent failure man children playing games well into adulthood. strange concept now, I know.
70's born are more like late gen-x and were more into television than video games. Talk to your dad about 70's tv shows not 5th gen games.
>>12271746Anon, I'm assuming you're American, yes? I'm an American too, and as much as it pains me to say this, Americans tend to be mindless fad-chasing sheep. Through-out most of the 80's, 90's, and 00's, gaming was seen as "niche" and then "kiddy" and then "dorky", generally, in most of American culture. This is because Americans have been indoctrinated to only find sportsball and wageslaving as viable pastimes, mostly as a result of post-WW2 culture. The prioritization of sports in schools heavily molded the idea of this in children's brains.You see, during the Cold War, America went super retard in trying to re-shape its cultural image to combat communism. President Eisenhower created the President's Council on Youth Fitness in 1956; Kennedy amplified it, tying exercise to anti-communist readiness ("soft Americans" would lose the ideological battle), and the Olympics became battlegrounds of vigor and fitness.The "Protestant Work Ethic" was revived and renamed as a way of combatting the "godless commies", and ensuring that America could out-produce the WARSAW nations.So, once again, the result of the shitty behaviors and cultural norms of yesteryear were a result of boomers and their autism and relentless, mindless, ironically conformity-driven hysterical opposition to communism. For as bad as communism was, there was virtually zero reason to push this hard in this direction.>>12271749I'm married and have a kid. In the last 2 weeks I've put in about 10 hours of game time, and that's for a slow week.It's very easy to not have time for your hobby, if it isn't your hobby. If the wife was stay-at-home, then his dad DEFINITELY didn't have any excuses for not gaming, unless he never really cared about it.
>>12272503It's funny how Americans are the ones least likely to understand Americans, because they view things through an American lens.
>>12272507Are you saying I'm wrong?
>>12272513Myopic and partially informed. What are you, 30-something? Everything you think started in the 20th century began long before it, and much of it comes from Europe. You simply don't have the time or inclination to understand all of this, that's the real trap. Wiser to just acknowledge your own confusion.
>>12272521It sure is impressive how confident you are in your wrongness. Leave it to a euro-poor who drinks Stolichnaya to think he's cultured.
>>12271760>autistic kid from next door starts telling me about some cool retro games>Tell him I remember playing some of those as a kid. Tell him to keep the gaming spirit alive, go back to party.
>>12271817Hail Eris!
>>12272532>no uI'm an American and much much smarter than you. You have an infantile comprehension of the flow of events that shape you. Just be ignorant, it's fine.
>>12272521Dunning-Kruger in full effect I see.
>>12271746jesus christ op did you grow up only watching youtubers who reference vidya assuming the viewer knows about them and you thought every gen-xer was just like that?or this is bait right
>>12272570Oh, okay. Now I get it. Quality bait. You had me going for a second. No one is actually this self-deluded, lmao.
>>12271746Youd think people on the retro board would capable of seeing things through different lenses of history but apparently not. Ticking a checkbox that says "I acknowledge that things and people were different 30 years ago compared to today" should be a requirement before posting.
>>12272575You are the master of your own ship, it's not an attack, just advice. It's much better to not pontificate on things you really don't know anything about and wrap up complex situations with trite narratives.
>>12272581It's not even history differing, it's a question of anecdotes and suppositions, my literal baby boomer parents played video games their whole lives. People around here just love the same boring us vs them templates because they really have nothing interesting to say.
>>12272584Proclaiming your intelligence and admonishing others while refraining from informing anyone on...virtually anything, is actually really low IQ behavior. I can't say I'm surprised though, you sounded low IQ the very moment you responded. I made the mistake of giving you attention though. Maybe you should spend some time with your parents instead of seeking validation online? You're far less likely to be called out for being the retard you truly are by them.
>>12272592My parents are dead, I'm much older than you. My kids have moved out even. I gave you solid advice and judged your intelligence by your posts. There are plenty of people much much smarter than me, that's the crazy thing about humanity, the variability.
>>12272595Wow dude, cool larp. Looks to me like you have really schizophrenic personality disorder issues you need to work through. Shame about your inability to counter a single thing I've said though. Don't worry, not everyone's a winner in life.
>>12272605You didn't say anything worth arguing about on this board. You made up a fable about America to explain common people not universally adopting a new entertainment technology and ranted about communism and P.E. and Calvinistic philosophy as if you had a point.
>>12272609Oh, look, the self-appointed elder sage has graced us with another sermon from his throne of imagined superiority. How predictable.
I have boomer parents that were teens when 2600 came out and my dad told me he always thought it looked like shit. Then the NES came out a couple years before I was born and he bought it, played a lot of Super Mario Bros and movie tie-in games but then after that he sort of lost interest but still bought me the newest consoles. It's called getting older and having more responsibilities, I feel the same way about video games after I turned 27 or so.
>>12272740No it isn't. It's called he stopped feeling appealed-to by the games clearly designed for children. Buy him a copy of DCS and he'd probably have a ball.
32 year old plumber who likes Nintendo games and Mario, because they are both Italian. I already like him more than any of the 30+ year old jobless youtubers that exist today.
>>12272993He has his own custom shirt too. I don't even think they had printing shit for the average joe back then he probably paid a pretty penny for it.
>>12271801One of the reasons they ran that letter and photo in the first place was precisely because seeing a seemingly normal 30+ year old wearing a Mario shirt and happily bragging about his gaming accomplishments wasn't the norm. Sure, you had usenet nerds and the like who were adults obsessed with videogames and cartoons, but again, they were a unique subset of people, many of whom were themselves probably involved in nerdy career paths like programming or animation. Back in the 90s, if you saw a 32 year old plumber wearing a Mario t-shirt, you'd do a double take, and most parents would probably have assumed him to be nothing more than a pedophile trying to lure children using whatever character he found was popular with children. Nowadays you don't bat an eye when you see some mustachioed sőyboy, even one in his 40s or 50s, walking around in some licensed videogame shirt or even sporting a Mario tattoo.
>>12271801>that was 32 in the 80sWtf is going on?
>>12273061Fluoride
>contemporary to him in his teens-early 30s>talks about n64 gamesyou are so lost. we all loved our 64s at my school but if had seen or heard about a 20 something let alone 30 year old with one that would have been the most uncomfortable, unnerving thing. Maybe this is the key to your confusion, because there's adult console gamers now, you assume it was like that then. Every kids dad did have games for their IBM computers (i never saw them play them, when would they with their 4 minutes to themselves a day after work/wife/kids?) but we played those games so presumably the dads had bought them. maybe they bought them for the kids. However, the idea of one of these dads playing on the Nintendo? Ridiculous. Fucked. Never in my childhood did i ever see an adult hold a game controller.
>>12272614bro is pretending he didn't give a whole diatribe on american capitalist culture
>>12271746My parents are recently 50 and they basically don't know anything after the NES
>>12271746AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY ARE 2002 ZOOMERS SO FUCKING OVERREPRESENTED ONLINE !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I swear you're all inorganic posters like this one https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/480582521/#480596585
>>12271746While I understand your hangups about gen-X, as they tend to have idiosyncratic takes on cultural issues like that, you have a very warped perspective if you expect people 50+ to know what Symphony of the Night is specifically, as only people who read gaming magazines back then would have even heard of it, and it's only famous in terms of how often it appears on TOP X GAMES lists and somehow became incorporated into the portmanteau name of a genre. I mean, I had no idea what Metroid or Mother/Earthbound until I saw their characters in Smash Bros. so this modern 'canon' of what classic games people ought to know is not something that makes sense to apply to people who were already young adults in the 90s.Resident Evil is the one example where I feel like it's actively strange that none of them would have even heard of the franchise though. Having said that, the whole phenomena of "games are basically Pacman and Space Invaders, man, weren't those the days?" is just the weirdest fucking thing to somehow actually continue to this day. Like, I get that maybe that era of arcades was a social hub for a certain generation of people, but I don't understand how people can continue to have nostalgia for that specific point and keep going on about it when the breadth, depth and overall quality of games simply exploded right afterwards.
>be 26>parents in their 60s>were in high school when the 2600 came out>dumbfounded whenever I'm at friends' houses and their parents are actually familiar with vidya and sometimes even play them in their spare time
>>12273404'96 and smug about it
>>12273026That shirt is airbrushed. Once upon a time, every mall in burgerland had a shop dedicated to selling airbrushed clothing.
>>1227178018? more like high school. i remember watching a mike matei stream where he mentioned he stopped giving a shit about video games in his teens to the point of being indifferent to getting an n64 for christmas. gaming wasn't fully mainstream among young adults until the psx middle schoolers hit adulthood during the 6th gen>>12273038that's exactly the point they were trying to make, downie
>>12271780What was supposed to take the place of cartoons and gaming? I'm a non-virgin 30 yo with a fiance and I still think about cartoons and video games when I'm pretending to be normal. Was life better back then?
>>12273481>i remember watching a mike matei stream where he mentioned he stopped giving a shit about video games in his teensWasn't he still playing NES when he met James in college? He's still playing games today, so he clearly didn't grow out of them.
>>12273486he got back into older games around the time he started college
>>12271841>Marge wasn't older than 6 when South Park came out>yet is visibly horrified by "Screaming Friends"Shit like this proves Mike Judge unironically made the right call adding sci-fi bullshit to Beavis and Butthead just to justify them being teenage xennials in the 2020's
>>12272252>they were getting filtered and their gamer rage woke me up and I got disciplined for waking uppost hand
>>12272145>>12272187Bruhs, how was the latest Skibidi Toilet?
>>12273483>cartoons and gamingIt's really funny to me that you lump cartoons in with gaming like that. Like, obviously the bulk of western cartoons are for children and for every 'good one', there's some other TV show (take your pick of drama, sci-fi etc.) that's better than that cartoon and more worth your while to watch as an adult, comedies being the only exception to this. Saturday morning cartoons in particular appeal to the naive 'adventurous couch potato' in you in a way that will only have its full effect on you as a kid. Good cartoon exists, and are worth remembering and revisiting, but specifically caring about cartoons above all other TV is an arrested development thing, even if TV in general is mostly only so good.Gaming is different, in that it really launched into being a phenomena of its own that has no parallel in anything else that quite gives you what it does. It would honestly be weird to me to genuinely 'grow out' of gaming, given what it offers. There was a point where I though I had, but it turned out that it was just mid 00 games being shitty movieslop.Anime is another thing though, if that's what you mean. The entire 'serious' Japanese media industry is geared around anime, novels, and videogames, and anyone capable of producing good live action shows is basically long gone there. Jap 'dramas' hardly even compare to Korean ones in terms of basic production and acting quality. Akira Kurosawa commented on this, and lamented that so much talent was exclusively going into animation and that their cinema was falling flat. Most anime is lame, but the best of them are easily as good as any of the best western shows.
>>12273661>Anime is another thing though, if that's what you mean. The entire 'serious' Japanese media industry is geared around anime, novels, and videogames, and anyone capable of producing good live action shows is basically long gone there. Jap 'dramas' hardly even compare to Korean ones in terms of basic production and acting quality. Akira Kurosawa commented on this, and lamented that so much talent was exclusively going into animation and that their cinema was falling flat. Most anime is lame, but the best of them are easily as good as any of the best western shows.What? I've always heard watching anime/cartoons as an adult is even more stigmatized in Japan than in the west. Is this a new phenomenon to capitalize on global markets?
>>12273669>I've always heard watching anime/cartoons as an adult is even more stigmatized in Japan than in the westAs far as I know, that idea was basically caused by giga 'anime club' weebs who waltzed around Japan around the time "being into Japan" was starting to become a big thing in the early millennium, and basically had no tact or social etiquette, and just assumed that society there was an anime wonderland paradise where you could bring up the subject of manga with anyone and expect them to be into talking about some of the same kinds of otaku shit you liked, unlike the westerners who'd bully them at home for that. That presumably went how you'd expect most of the time.This seemingly caused this massive backlash of perception in the west of "what Japan liked". The problem then is that tons of people seem to have assumed that, since the 'Chinese cartoons' they liked were actually what was supposedly being made for children, then there then must be a whole other world of "serious mass media for Japanese adults" that they were just too immature to seek out.That basically doesn't exist. There is no Japanese Sopranos, or LOST, or Breaking Bad, or Stranger Things or Babylon 5 etc. in live action form. Any possible equivalents that might fairly be compared with those are anime. It's virtually all low budget slop otherwise. You either watch anime, or idols, vtubers etc. or you watch 'celebrity' (or whatever counts as such in Japan) variety shows, or sports and documentaries.
>>12273696>anime and manga not being popular among japanese adults is a misconception caused by foreigners wanting to talk about anime and manga with japanese adults and them telling them to fuck off, which is to be expected despite being popular over there................what?
>>12273279>bro is samefagging now for how BTFO he got
>>12273696>As far as I knowStop reading here, fellas. This dude is a retard.
>>12271746You must understand that before it was okay to be a 30 year old gamer, people stopped caring about video games when they entered adult life.So, for most people born in the 70's, the usual thing is to know about the games that were popular when they were kids or teenagers.
>>12273406Phenomenon*
>>12273661>>12273696Holy pseud!
>>12273723What an embarrassing post this is, and so coincidental to my visit. Delicious.
>>12273735>makes a samefag post>makes a delirious polemic post identical to my post, but now he's schizo'ing out about cartoons and TV shows pretending to know what the fuck he's talking about>other anons blatantly calling him outYou so desperately want to feel validated, it's quite sad.
>>12271746knowing how you fucking faggots are on this board, they probably know but I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is your parent's way of not wanting to talk to you.
>>12273738tbf if i had a kid born after 9/11 i wouldn't want to talk to them regardless
>>12273725> kids or teenagersSmall correction, before Kalinske-sama led the industry to higher heights, vidya was basically a kiddo-only business.This means most people born in the 70's will only remember popular games from the days they were kids.
>>12273752>defeat marioWell, he did end up being defeated. Minecraft is the best selling video game franchise of all time.
>>12273737lol, I don't think you're cut out for anonymous posting. You should operate on the surface, because you lack intuition.
>>12271746Only serious weirdos kept playing videogames past age 12 or so in Gen X (as in people that are 50-60 right now). NES is the limit of their knowledge.
>>12273781xcucks are just millennials with pretension
>>12271752>god of war is a zoomer gameIt came out in 2005. The oldest zoomers were like 6 or 7 years old. I don't think they were playing god of war.
>>12273707I can't come up with a better explanation given how obviously and actually popular manga and anime actually are in Japan and how frequently you see advertisements for the stuff there. Like, if you read a random mainstream newspaper like the Asahi Shinbun, you'll see articles and advertisements for all kinds of anime and manga adjacent stuff, it's clear that anime doesn't have the overall status in Japan of being the 'kid version' of a more adult thing you're supposed to be engaging with instead and anime is clearly a big thing that has its production taken seriously in ways that you don't see for a lot of other media. Like, it would be strange indeed if people had put all this effort into specifically spreading the popularity of anime outside of Japan, but actually, Japan had a whole higher quality live action industry that they were really into instead that everyone just ignored because they were just too enamored with the flashy animation they liked as kids.I can only assume that it's like how someone might watch tons of marvel movies, but encountering someone who's genuinely into Marvel and acted all excited about future plot advancements he's hoping for while expecting you to know anything about the comics would through lots of people for a loop. Anime is a kind of mainstream thing like that, where its something lots of people like, but people obsessed with it specifically and over eager to bring it up and talk about niche fandom stuff publicly are still very much seen as otaku.
Generation memes really fucked you kids up. The horoscopes and tea leaves and reading of the entrails in this thread are hilarious. Just goes to show how such newspeak causes a complete disconnect from understanding reality.
>>12273696>As far as I know, that idea was basically caused by giga 'anime club' weebsWrong. The stigma was caused by the Otaku Murderer before weebs were even a thing in the west.
>>12273841ISTP post
>>12273821gen Xers were the last generation that grew up without internet cancer
>>12273841It's all part of the plan to divide and conquer the population and to keep them warring amongst themselves
>>12273849No, my corporate star sign is INTP.>>12273858Yes, it directly inhibits the transfer of generational wisdom and creates pointless blame games. The ease of communication really scares some people, and rightfully so.
>>12273848Dude, I'm not at all saying that Japanese people themselves were embarrassed by foreigners and only then developed such a stigma. I'm saying that there is an exaggerated sense western anime fans have of how lowly regarded anime/manga and otaku adjacent interests are in Japan, and that this is very likely due to bad personal experiences from people who went there.These things are seen as "not especially respectable" to a certain degree, but not at all to the point that like being a fan of Japanese cartoons in Japan is as weird as being a westerner who mostly just watches kids cartoons.
>>12273887I find it interesting that 4chan got so obsessed with generational shitposting when it's always some kind of generalization based on whatever dumb shit normalfags are getting up to. I thought "we" were supposed to be different from them, not share in their retardation.
>>12273917To give a definitive answer for everyone here, this person is correct. Anime is seen as somewhat childish by many in Japan, but it is much, MUCH more common than cartoons are here, and as such are accepted as just part of Japanese culture. It is as approximately acceptable as you might say Rick and Morty was at the height of its popularity: It would be generally regarded as somewhat puerile by most people, but has a large number of people that want to see it everywhere on everything and whether or not they like it most just accept they're going to see it everywhere. To be completely clear, most Japanese do *not* view a grown adult watching anime in as negative a light as westerners view a grown man watching children's cartoons. That is not a thing, while I am sure there are Japanese people that believe that they are in a significant minority.
>>12273929I think most people who got online after broadband can't handle the influx of disparate personalities and eccentricities of raw humanity, so they retreat into memetic constructions.
>>12273917>there is an exaggerated sense western anime fans have of how lowly regarded anime/manga and otaku adjacent interests are in Japan, and that this is very likely due to bad personal experiences from people who went there.And I'm saying you are wrong. You sound like you've never been to Japan. Nothing about it is exaggerated and I would even say it's downplayed in the west. Otaku in Japan are associated with sexual violences, pedophillia, and other types of mental illness as a direct result of the Otaku murderer and similar copycats.
>>12271746Why the fuck should anyone care that you're miserable and literally pissing blood that your family enjoys gaming and you don't?
>>12271746I am constantly confused at some topics on this site now, it's as if many people are actually leaving and being replaced by zoomers. To clarify, there's a massive knowledge gap for basically every single generation prior to Millennials and late Gen X with games and for good reason: Up until the late 90's and early 00's games were a generally stigmatized hobby, insofar as playing them when you could be doing something better such as playing outside or otherwise socializing with your friends is concerned. They were considered more like toys, a brief distraction rather than a genuine hobby. It was still popular, the release of the NES changed a lot for gaming, and the subsequent Genesis and SNES releases not to mention PSX and N64 helped drag them into the mainstream. But it wasn't until the PS2 that being a nerd was something that became more chic, and it was of course the PS3 and 360 era when it was finally fully realized. So yes, your parents most likely did not know that much about games because they just didn't play them, because they probably had other hobbies. They probably played occasional games, like Frogger, Pong, Pac Man, Space Invaders, but they probably only played them a bit when they couldn't go outside.
>>12274000No fucking shit people are leaving, why wouldn't that? Look at this very thread. Utter asinine garbage, every single person that replied to it should be permabanned, myself included, and the op should be found and gutted. Just complete fucking waste of time garbage that doesn't mean ANYTHING.>hurr durr guess what guys? my dad doesn't know what SOTN is wtf should i slit my wrists or?WHY DOES THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE THREAD EXISTWHY DOES IT HAVE 100+ FUCKING REPLIESTHERE'S NO FUCKING PURPOSE TO ANY OF THIS PUTRID MESS AND OP'S DERANGED HURT FEELINGS AND GENERATIONAL CRUSADE SHOULD ONLY BE REWARDED WITH EXECUTIONI want all the human garbage to wiped off the face of this site.
>>12271746They're just normalfags whos interest and knowledge of gaming didn't go beyond their childhood nostalgia of the late 70s and early 80s. At 45 I'm almost as old as them and I've always had an active interest in gaming. I have very little nostalgia for the 8-bit consoles and computers I grew up with in the 80s though. My interest in retro only really goes back as far as the 16-bit systems.
>>12274000>To clarify, there's a massive knowledge gap for basically every single generation prior to Millennials and late Gen X with games and for good reason: Up until the late 90's and early 00's games were a generally stigmatized hobbyZoomer post.
>>12271746I don't want to alarm you, but your parents and their friends are not gamers.
>>12273974It's definitely an easier way of dealing with posts you don't like than having to authentically deal with them, not that there's a lot of authentic threads made in this place to begin with these days.I just miss seeing people talk about [topic] without it being blatant engagement bait or some kind of expression for their personal resentments, OR dragging in some neurotic view of the world at large. I guess I should seek out forums at this point, but good fucking luck finding a place that gets more than a single post per week.
>>12273991Okay, you are either not Japanese or you have not been to Japan. Straight up, most Japanese do not carry "otaku" with a negative weight like you are suggesting anymore and have not for several years. The backlash against otaku subculture was a thing in the late 90's and 00's, and was approximately equivalent to the DND Satanic scare of the 80s and 90s. Also like that event, it has about as much stigma today in Japanese culture: That is, there are still some people that carry their skepticism forward today, but they are a tiny fraction of the population. "Otaku" now carries the same equivalent weight and meaning as the word "nerd," it is not stigmatized like you are suggesting now, and if so is done to the same degree as pearl-clutching politicians do here with violent videogames. Further, the presence of anime is ubiquitous, and most people that watch anime are not referred to as "otaku." So even this discussion of otaku is silly. I don't know who in this topic decided to spread their conception of Japanese society here, but no anime is not stigmatized like they are suggesting. At all.
>>12273991>Otaku in Japan are associated with sexual violences, pedophillia, and other types of mental illnessYes, 'otaku' are very looked down upon, but there's a large presence of media that relate to otaku interests that are popular with lots of people who wouldn't be considered otaku. It's like, yes there are very creepy people who are very obsessed with idols and many of them do disturbing things, and this kind of person is certainly not someone you'd want to be known to be, but this doesn't stop idols from having a very popular public presence.
>>12271841>Consider that the simpsons were meant to represent people in their 30sThat is an entirely different issue. Society is falling into oblivion.
>>12271746Videogames were strictly for children until the late 1990s. If you weren't born in the mid-80s or later, to ride the wave of "aging up" in gaming, you likely missed out on vidya as a hobby.
>>12274034Discord, man, discord. The name is on the tin for what it did, with full double meaning. Most people exist within walled gardens online, and so public spaces are full of rejects and retards and the mentally ill and stubborn old men.
>>12273991>>12274035>>12274037I have lived in Japan for over 20 years. All three of you should immediately neck yourselves. Everyone single one of your opinions are wrong to the point of being alien make believe fantasy from retarded basement manchildren who clearly are unable to make eye contact. Just never, ever speak my country's name again.
>>12274025It is the truth kiddo, gaming was a children's hobby by and large until the 00's. Being a nerd was stigmatized.
>>12274047I'm 45, all my friends played video games my entire youth. I was the only nerd of the bunch, because I read a lot.
>>12274046I don't give a shit how long you have been teaching English, you are wrong. Anime is completely normalized here and it is not remotely stigmatized to refer to yourself as an "otaku." Stop spreading lies about places you do not understand.
>>12274046Bro, millions of people buy videogames and manga and shit in Japan. What are you even saying? I don't care if you live in Japan, retarded people who are wrong about shit in America live there too.
>>12274046>my countryyou could live there 400 years and itll still never be your country
>>12274052Keep my country's name out of your mouth, virgin autist.>>12274053Keep my country's name out of your mouth, virgin autist.>>12274057Keep my country's name out of your mouth, virgin autist.
>>12274058日本語ができるごっこをするつもりなら、この書き込みを日本語で返事しろできなけりゃお前の嘘はバレちゃう
>>12274048I am 40, and was trained by treatment from other kids to keep my hobby a secret until about 1998. FF7, MGS1, and Medal of Honor changed the perception of gaming a lot.
>>12274058I'm not a virgin, I fucked a lot of Japanese girls.
>>12274045Stubborn is the right word, I keep obsessing about this place when I should just fuck off and find somewhere that actually gatekeeps nonsense. Thanks, I appreciate communicating with an actual human being for once.
>>12274035>most Japanese do not carry "otaku" with a negative weightwrong. you've never been to Japan and neither has this fag >>12274046
>>12271746>gmod kleiner speaks>[inaudible 10 year old screaming on microphone]
>>12271746They are gaslighting you op. They think you're a massive nerd and find it funny to screw with your stupid ass. They probably say things to you like, "Mario? Who's Mario?" or, "What do you mean Doom is a computer game, computers have games?" Then once you walk away defeated and butt flustered they giggle amongst themselves. It's bullshit op, they don't respect your interests or even you as a person. You're a toy, a plaything, they keep you around for their amusement. You need to stand up for yourself, put exlax in their food. It's the only way, unless you want to keep hearing things like, "Wow, Adventure, now that was an experience. That's peak gaming right there, nothing can compete. What, Legend of Zelda? Zelda is a girl's name, are you telling you play a game where you're a girl? Did I raise some kind of fruity pants Nancy boy?" And youll be tearing up and stammering about how zelda isn't a girl but I mean yeah she's a girl but you don't play as her but no one will hear because they'll be tol busy laughing at you. Shan't happen to someone like me who exerts gaming dominance in my body language and demeanor. Tough luck kid.
>>12273929>I find it interesting that 4chan got so obsessed with generational shitpostingThis kind of astrology is pervasive in all social communication.>gender>autism>extrovert/introvert>myers-briggs>generational labelsThat's not even close to all of it.
>>12274073Do you really want to play this game, faggot? Post 在留カード
>>12274062Breakthrough: You weren't a nerd or a loser because you played games. You were a loser because you seemed like an easy target, pheromones or posture or some shit.I played video games with all my friends who were jocks and stoners and heads. My older sister played video games as well. A nerd in my day was someone who read books and was an extension of egghead and good ol' American anti-intellectualism, in production since Mark Twain.
>>12274073I live in Japan, and before that visited for years, you are wrong. This is me >>12274060Anime is not fucking stigmatized here, there are some older people that do not like it but everyone sees it everywhere. I don't know why it is so fucking popular for internet idiots to just make up shit constantly, but no it is NOT irregular to watch and see anime in Japan and it is NOT that stigmatized to refer to yourself as an "otaku." You people seriously need to stop fucking talking about shit you do not know
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>>12274085>I live in Japan, and before that visited for years, you are wrong. This is meYou are full of shit. You would be agreeing with what I said if you knew anything. Otaku has a heavily negative connotation in Japan to this day.
>>12274093No it fucking doesn't. Go ahead, reply with some authentic Japanese faggot I want to hear you explain yourself if you live here. Tell the rest of the thread how stigmatized it is to be an otaku.
>>12274080The generational shit is the worst by far because it both the most astoundingly inaccurate while simultaneously being the most powered by ridiculous, retarded, misplaced childish rage and resentment.I have known literally thousands of people that could bear the title "baby boomer" and every single one of them was better than every whining crying pseudo-marxist slopposting 4chan faggot combined. "Boomers" did not ruin the world and you cannot attribute any flaws of society to them as a "group". That this even needs to be explained to some people is its own evidence that their brains cannot comprehend how to properly understand causal relationships, statistics, common sense, or bare minimum human interaction whatsoever.>>12274085There's a difference between "seeing anime" in subway advertisements, and actually sitting at home and watching it as a childless adult loner. It's ok to watch Maruko and Doraemon **while eating with your family**, it's not ok to watch I Can't Believe My Sister Is This Good At Footjobs every saturday.>>12274093Post 在留カード
>>12274083You know what people are into because of what they talk about. It wasn't games until about 1998.
>>12274096>"Boomers" did not ruin the worldRight, that would be the Js.
>>12274107Kids shared gaming mags and talked about it in the lunchroom for many years when I was a kid and I graduated highschool in '98. I remember playing Street Fighter 2 with my friend's mom's boyfriend, who was a guitar player in a band and he was damn good at using Ken. Couldn't beat him for years. I really think people don't understand that it's not your interests, it's your presentation.
>live in Japan for 20+ years>no actually cares to learn what it's like, they just want to circlejerk madeup nonsense opinions they believe from their basements out of resentment and jealousyit isn't even that hard to move to japan and I stopped giving a shit about anime when I came herethis whole "hurr durr do they respect otakus" is absolutely positive beyond secondary because I guarantee you 99.9% of you wouldn't be respected no matter WHAT your hobby is. not because you're american, not because you're non-japanese, but because you almost certainly can't live up to expected japanese standards of social behavior, obligation, and conscientiousness regardless of your outward biology. one of the things you learn when you "make it" as an expat is that 2 out of 3 /don't/. japan breaks them, they just cannot handle the expectations people have that require them to function as decent hard-working adults that let absolutely nothing slide. so there's a very common turnover rate of around 2 to 3 years where most people who "love" japan and want to live here ship themselves back after not getting any red carpet treatment and complain about how "awful" it is. the learned laziness and paradoxical need for unearned individual respect and special treatment of western culture earns more immediate ire than "race" ever will, and funnily enough that's something the actual racists can't even process without their brains physically exploding and shooting blood out their ears; hence they stay glued to their suburban basements and shitpost about the special magical kingdom of innocent elves known as japan that needs to be sheltered and gatekept by themselves, the thankless neckbeard otaku saviors.It's all so tiresome.
>>12274058If you are the same dude from other japanese threads that claims to have lived in japan for 20 years I remember you saying how the language is boring and dry. I stopped taking you seriously since then are you really playing nihon linebacker now?
>>12274121I have no idea what you're talking about and I genuinely suggest you consider therapy if you're constantly being haunted by ghosts from anonymous 4chan threads.
>>12274120what the fuck is this schizo even ranting about?
>>12274121>the language is boring and drythat's true though, for video games that is. japanese used for games and anime is extremely simplistic and tropey. it's much more predictable than english
>>12274127English-language website anon, if that's beyond your capabilities you might want to stay on dwalichan.in or linkedin
>>12274125my bad I assumed this was you. Man for a board with a handful of active posters it seems like many of them have lived in japan for 20 years, you two should meet up.
>>12274120Maybe you're just an unreliable narrator, even to yourself. A lot of retards exist.
>>12274095>>12274096>no u!!I never claimed to be an english teacher who lived in glorious nippon for 20 years. It's you who needs to post proof of your schizo fantasies. Otaku having a negative connotation is something you can pick up by just visiting Japan and using the word. There's no way you lived there for years without realizing it. No one is impressed by your pretend qualifications or you jerking off about "japanese respect" while being disrespectful to everyone.
>>12274132Apparently living in Japan for 20 years makes you a resentful schizo.
>>12274131His post is nonsense and has nothing to do with the discussion he inserted himself into.
>>12274121>the language is boring and dryactually hilarious for someone to say that given how many ways you can communicate tone in japanese. I can understand the argument that it's dry when translated into english directly because those eccentricities have no equivalent but you'd have to be a total retard to say japanese is an innately dry language
>>12274147may I see someone saying this?
>>12274120>nonsense opinions they believe from their basementsthe projection is off the charts
>>12274139>needs to post proofNo I don't. I don't "need" to do anything for YOU at all. Why should I? We could have an interesting conversation if you weren't deadset on demonstrating that you act like a belligerent asshole at all possible times, but if you're going to do that then it's really no loss to me if you want to continue being wrong about a country you've never lived in. I don't lose anything and I won't remember you exist tomorrow morning.
>>12274148guy I'm replying to said someone else claimed it, I'm not looking to argue so much as I found the idea funny
>>12274139This post has no fucking Japanese in it you lying poser faggot. Here I'll link again for you:>>12274060Go ahead. Let me hear from someone that is DEFINITELY living in Japan and not just lying his fucking ass off how massively stigmatized anime and being called otaku is. I want to hear it from you in Japanese, you're not a massive lying faggot are you?
>>12274062>>12274107I know, right!? I'm also 40 and still remember all the kids getting shoved in lockers over admitting to playing Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil! Oh, the horror!
>>12271746Your parents probably found other hobbies in their teens.
>>12274046>>12274058>>12274085you will never be japanese
>>12271754No Tetris? That was a goddamn phenomenon for a little while even boomers loved it.
>>12274016B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-BASED
>>12274189Funny, RE became popular in 1998 with RE2. Mortal Kombat and other normie shit like hockey games was usually fine.
>>12271746Anon my mom (a Muslim from Boston) only knows Mario and Tetris.Games are a super niche thing, and only lighting in the bottles like those two get released.
>>12274160>>12274152You are such a projecting lying piece of shit. You come in here and act like an asshole while calling everyone else disrespectful. You lie about being some kind of japanese expert while accusing others of doing the same. No one is lying about that shit except you. All it takes is a simple visit to Japan and using the word otaku to see how Japanese consider it an insulting and negative term. You even try to admit this "it's not THAT negative" while still being an asshole and refusing to admit you are full of shit. Post proof of your supposed expertise or quit lying about it. Accusing others of what you are doing is a shit debate tactic
>>12274060oh wowee you used machine translation. Pretending you know Japanese doesn't mean shit
>>12274286>normie shit like hockey gamesa fucking newfag leaf
>>12271746normies left when the arcades tanked
>>12274438Sorry you weren't there for NHL94.
>>12274426>>12274434Neither of you said fucking shit in Japanese because you don't know the language and have never been to the country. I have no clue why total fucking losers like these dipshits enjoy making shit up on these boards, but it appears it's become very fashionable. To those reading that aren't these massive cocksuckers, understand that anime is not vilified, and a majority of people use the word "otaku" the exact same way that we use the word "nerd."
>>12271746your timeframes are too wide you should have picked games from early 90s not after, most of the time Xers can't remember shit after since it all blur together anyway after 30.
>>12275038Stop drinking, bro.
>>12275038also Xers were heavy in the arcades instead of home consoles so its no surprise your parents might not know many console games.
>>12275048>Xers were heavy in the arcadesToo many pizza slices?
>>12273832I had it on a jampack demo disc does that count?
>>12274293You shouldn't even exist in the Western hemisphere, your experiences are an edge case fueled by barbaric genetic mutilation and women wearing full bed sheets in public.
