>>12275763
I think you're just mentally retarded. I beat this entire game with no guide when I was 8 years old and had only 5 years of gaming experience.

>>12275775
>heh you need a fish anon
>is it at the fishing minigame? NO
>is it at the lake? NO
>is it at the river? NO
>can you buy the fish in the store? NO
>can you get a fish in Jabu's area? NO

yeah real good fucking game design

my IQ is 118

>>12275775
by the way I dont believe you. I am 32 years old and had friends that played it when it came out. As kids, they couldnt even get out of Kokiri forest. So shut up, liar

>>12275775
>claiming to play video games at 3 years old
boomers really think they can just lie to people LMAO

I just replayed it, and I agree: it has a terrible design, though old fags in their 50s will get defensive if you bring it up. It took me 50 hours to beat. Back in the day, it was common to talk about games during recess, often sharing nonsense like how to get the Song of Sages to melt Zora’s Domain ice as part of a Triforce quest, just like the Biggoron Sword. Sometimes, though, someone had a Nintendo Power issue with a small guide or the Prima guidebook. As a kid, I got stuck looking for the Eye of Truth, thankfully, a neighbor’s cousin visiting knew where it was. By today’s standards, it’s awful and lame, but back then, that cryptic design was balanced out by the social aspect of being a ’90s kid.

>>12275763
japanese kids are smarter than you.
no need to get mad, thats just how it be

>>12275882
>japanese kids are smarter than you.
Why is Japan facing such massive debt despite being considered so smart? So intelligent that their currency is dogshit and their products too.

>>12275763
>BOTTLE SAYS "DO NOT TELL MY DAD"
>>SPEND HOURS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DK
this shows you're autistic. the first thing you'd do is show it to dad.
the game is full of clues in the dialog that you arent reading, another sign of autism

You just had to be there. You would figure out what to do through word of mouth on the playground. Usually 1 kid had the strategy guide. The 1 game you got per year was supposed to last so no one cared how cryptic stuff was

>>12275807
I wasn't beating whole games at 3 years old, but yeah I played Mario and Duck Hunt and Tetris with my family at that age and getting a couple levels into each. How is this surprising in any way? You've clearly never spent any amount of time around a 3 year old if you think they're incapable of playing NES games.

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>>12275796
>can you buy the fish in the store? NO

>>12275796
There is a pool in Zora's Domain that has them. You should have noticed that while you were running around like a retard. A lack of observational skills may be your problem.

>>12275954
you need 200 rupees
You can only hold 99 rupees

of course i saw the fucking fish in that store AND the hyrule store

>>12275902
>specifically tells you not to do a thing
>does it anyway
you will not survive the near future

>>12276035
>you need a fish
>do you get it from the fishing minigame?
>NO

i am NOT a retard in this scenario

>>12276039
You should have had the Adult Wallet by then

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>>12275954
I bet OP doesn’t have the adult bag and is stuck with 99 rupees. It’s his first run, so I’m guessing he has no Skulltulas.
Nobody in their first run could afford it unless they were following a guide.

>>12275876
Makes sense, magazines and word of mouth was much more common.
Looking up a guide is easier and cheaper nowadays, but you're not gonna get those drip-fed tips like you did from friends and nintendo power

>>12276050
I've been making an effort to do every single mini-game I come across, no adult wallet yet.
This is what I mean, I'm like TEN hours into this fucking game because half of it has been me literally running EVERYWHERE checking every single possible place, but clearly I am missing something so its just pissing me off when I feel forced to look up a guide

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>>12276053
I have like 11 of those collectsble skull spider guys :(

I am frustrated because I truly am putting in effort, I just dont feel any of the rewards because I keep having to spoil the solutions. I have work tomorrow, I cant afford to run around hyrule field for hours on end :(

>>12275763
I beat this when I was fresh off my mother's womb, you must be mentally deficient

>>12276068
>a godzillachad is having trouble with this game
big G would be so disappointed...

>>12276068
See, I just had to google this solution of Lord Fish-Fucks belly

I already talked to Ruto once, explored the whole dungeon, an am fucking lost

YOU GOTTA TALK TO HER TWICE AND CARRY HER TO THE SWITCH OR SOME SHIT

I TALKED TO HER ONCE AND SHE TOLD ME TO FUCK OFF

SO I FUCK OFF. I HATE THIS CUNT RUTO

>>12275876
This is exactly it. These little jewels of knowledge were a rare treasure. You'd think about these puzzles for a long time.
Also it was normal to make no progress in a game and put it down for a week. Then you'd see it from a different angle and have a lightbulb moment.

Lucasarts games literally took me months to beat as a kid. It didn't bother me, we had no expectation of a guaranteed victory

>>12276060
you only need 10 gold skultullas for the adult wallet. minigames only reward you with pieces of heart, bombs or rupees

>>12276074
this fucking game is pissing me off anon
i beat resident evil remake for the first time ever in two days, no guide. easy peasy
but this shit is just filtering me. I was having a blasts the first two hours, but once I had to get to Zoras domain, my progress has come to a halt and its pissing me off

had zero issues with the goron dungeon

>>12276080
>>12275909
OP here, this makes sense to me
I am trying to make progress in a single weekend but these games were meant to last people up to a year

I want the fucking dopamine dammit I aint gettin it fast enough

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>>12276045
There are fish right here, retard.

>>12276054
Much of the experience has been lost over time. While many can still enjoy real hardware and FPGA, the social aspect is long gone. The closest thing now is posting here or on forums, but that often leads to insults by Indians instead of meaningful discussions with cultural equals. You can revisit the past, but no one will be there. Discovering old games isn’t the same anymore: playing Pokémon alone can’t compare to playing it with friends, enjoying both RBY and Stadium together. The same goes for arcade games, where you weren’t just watching and learning from others’ gameplay, but also trash-talking and having fun. The social element was crucial back then. I’m not being nostalgic: I loved Q3A and PSO, but a huge part of the 5th gen and earlier has lost so much simply because of the missing social side. It’s unreal how even Ocarina of Time feels affected by it.

>>12276096
I spent an hour doing the fishing minigame because I didnt know you could equip the bottle and use it underwater.

>>12275954
If you try to buy a fish at the store before finding a bottle, they won't sell it to you. If OP found the bottle and was too dumb to give the note inside to the king then his only bottle would have been full, too.

>>12275909
>>12276054
>Looking up a guide is easier and cheaper nowadays
weird larpers. I looked up where to go in this game in 1999 on gamefaqs. the internet existed back then you know.

>>12276107
>I spent an hour doing the fishing minigame because I'm functionally illiterate and didn't read the literal instructions given by the game when you find the bottle.

>>12276068
>11 of those collectsble skull spider guys
In Kakariko, there's a house where people are suffering from a curse. If you collect Skulltulas, you might be able to break it. Visit the house, and with 10 Skulltulas, you can save one of the six cursed spideyfags. The first one you help will reward you with the Adult Wallet, which lets you carry up to 200 rupees.

>>12276093
The other thing to remember is game rentals were the main way kids got to play games back then. You would get a couple games a year then get to rent games a couple times a month if you were lucky. To prevent this, devs would put alot of cryptic shit in their games to purposely make you hit a wall, buy the game and then buy a guide. I never feel bad about using a guide for 6th gen and under because this was common practice until the handholding of the 7th gen

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>>12276106
very well said anon, thank you
your rational sane white man words have calmed my rabid angry young man frustration and instead helps me appreciate it as a relic of the time

Is the game a little obtuse? yes, but I am also a different audience than it was intended for, I am not in the same culture that spawned it. my frustrations come from having to be an adult with a job and limited time, and the lack of social institutions for me to meaningfully converse about the game beyond this discussion we are having here

I will remain steadfast and not be filtered. If I need the occasional hint from a guide, so be it.

majoras mask is gonna fuck me up good lmao

>>12276126
You should be banned for posting this nonsense. Literal toddler tier brain.

>>12276127
Stop mashing through every npc text box and you'd be fine anon.

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>>12276124
Gotcha, see I didnt know you could save those guys one at a time. Their first dialogue implied I needed to get all of the skulls, not just some (i thought)
>>12276121
actual fucking liar btw, the game tells you how to use items in the bottle but it never tells you to equip an empty bottle and use it to fucking catch fish

>>12276134
he's gonna miss the key below the central tower in water temple and ragequit

>>12276116
>weird larpers. I looked up where to go in this game in 1999 on gamefaqs. the internet existed back then you know.
t. friendless fag since 1999

>>12276134
man im reading everything! I talk to every single NPC

>>12276142
I first saw OoT at a friends house, but when I played it myself and got stuck im not going to go to the fucking playground at 8pm on a school night im going to get on the computer and look it up. Its bizarre that people are pretending like the internet didnt exist back then you can easily fact check this stuff.

>>12276053
But that's exactly what I did on my first playthrough. I didn't even realize that you could catch a fish with a bottle until much later.

>>12276149
I’m a ’95 anon who used to talk about games with other white kids during recess, practice, church gatherings, or when we hung out together. I only used the internet for one or two hours on weekends, always under my dad’s supervision.
Man, you must have grown up as a sad loner if you think anyone who socializes is a larper.

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Ok, thats pretty damn funny
>>12276160
My problem thus lied with:
>not knowing you could turn in 10 of the skullutas (i thought you needed all 100 or something)
>not getting the adult wallet

all of my issues so far would have been solved, but I never checked back at the Skull house and turn in the Skullutas I did collect

Why did so many of you faggots reply to an obvious bait thread? This is why this board sucks so much.

>>12275893
Same reason as usual… jews. Read Princes Of The Yen.

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>>12276168
thats really funny how you can throw her and make her squeak
>>12276172
not everythings fucking bait anon. god forbid anyone ever question the almighty god that is OoT, I know I knkw

>>12276138
>after you put something in this bottle
This is what I mean about you being functionally illiterate. You can't even draw a logical connection between the fact that the game says you can put things in bottles and the idea that you might be able to put things in the bottle. When I first played this game, it was just automatic for me to equip an empty bottle and try to put shit in it, so much so that my memory of that text is that the explanation was more explicit than it is. Your problem is that you read words and understand them at the most basic surface level but can't actually divine deeper contextual meaning from any of it. You need to fix that, because reading everything in the game won't help you if you're incapable of synthesizing new information from obvious clues in the text.

>>12276164
What a nonsensical leap of logic. You must be a sad pathetic loner too because you are currently using the internet! Dumbass, if you cant understand what other people are saying dont reply to them youre wasting both of our time.

>>12276182
>after you put something in this bottle

Like the fucking potions that the game told me I needed a bottle for? Or the fairy?
Stop fucking treating me like I'm some brown retard because I didnt know you could fucking use the bottle specifically from the bottle

the fucking video game gives me a tutorial for equipping an item every 5 seconds, but it cant give a tutorial that says "you can use bottles to catch fish and fairies"

fuck you. I'm an adult with limited time, not a kid during summer vacation who has all weekend to test out every single possible fucking variable

you people wanna pretend this is "hurr ur dumb" and not the fact that video games were functionally designed to be more obtuse back then

>>12276182
by the way nice moving the goal post

first it was "the game literally tells you", now its "what you didnt draw your own conclusion?"

fucking ass

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>>12276205
>"the game literally tells you"

>>12276201
>the fucking video game gives me a tutorial for equipping an item every 5 seconds, but I can't eventually deduce that I should try equipping and using every item just to see what happens.
I'm not trying to insult you or use this term lightly: You are literally functionally illiterate and need to learn what that means and how to overcome it.

>>12276209
>other important things
like fish, perhaps?

>>12276205
>>12276209
I literally admitted that I was wrong about the text being explicit about it. Should the conversation just end there? No, I explained why I misremembered the text and why it's still your own failing that you couldn't draw such a simple conclusion. See: >>12276212

>>12276212
>bro you should equip an empty bottle and use it
>the game explicitly tells you the bottle is specifically for using items INSIDE the bottle
>yes, the game has told you that you need a bottle for potions and can use a potion without a bottle
>its your fault for not talking to the skullutas again after collecting just a few of them (i know the game told you to come back after you collected them ALL, not just a few)

your games intentionally obtuse to pad out time. simple as.

My cousins showed me Roblox today and it was schizophrenic. When I showed them OoT they literally couldn't hold their attention for more than two minutes. This thread reminds me of that.

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You must be mentally deficient if you can’t figure out things in OoT.

>>12276217
the game has explicit, clear tutorials for every single item in the game

not a single one of the signs or NPC's say to use an empty bottle in the water to catch fish

WHAT KIND OF SENSE DOES IT MAKE TO MANUALLY CATCH A FISH WITH YOUR HANDS WHEN A FISHING MINIGAME IS 5 FEET AWAY

>>12276234
it reminds you of that because you are retarded and have no nuance
>>12276235
t. used a guide

You can really tell a posters mental age when he deflects all responsibility and says its the games fault for not winning automatically.

>>12276238
>>12276241
When's school starting again bud?

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HEY!
LISTEN!!

>>12276250
>>12276251
you can really tell they have no arguments because they start with the ad hominem shit
your game was made by humans and has flaws. get over it.

>>12276250
Yeah, because thats what OP said, that he wants to win automatically. Dumbass.

>>12276261
Its not a fault of the game that you were too busy doing your adult big boy taxes to equip items and use them

>>12276264
>equip the EMPTY item
>the game tells you to use bottles when theres an ITEM inside them

no other game does that because its retarded. Resident Evil doesnt let me equip a empty magazine because theres fucking nothing in it.

>>12276272
Its not a fault of the game that you were too busy doing your adult big boy taxes to equip items and use them

>>12276275
very black-coded to repeat the same things over and over
ever watch blacks fight? they'll say the same thing over and over because they're 90 IQ and get upset easily, especially when their ego and culture are threatened
Do you feel threatened that someones not sucking OoT's dick?
You're gonna die before I do, old man.

>>12276282
getting filtered by ocarina of time is very black-coded
go back to your fighting games

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>>12276283
>man dis be da greatest game ever made!! 10/10 game dawg shits my childhood!
>*looks at a walkthrough literally every ten seconds*

great game ya got there tyrone

>>12276282
>very black-coded
Throwing a racial temper tantrum does not change the fact that the game is not flawed because you are too impatient. You are welcome to say that you thought it was difficult to figure out where to go but that does not reflect negatively against the game only you.

I had to look up the bomb tunnel thing in Super Metroid. I've dropped OoT multiple times because it's the same experience of not knowing what to do time and time again, it's just not fun. I've played thousands of games and it's literally just these two that have given me trouble and they're regularly considered the best two games of all time.

Going up and down on the barrels in Sonic 3 was obvious.

>>12276282
>because they're 90 IQ and get upset easily
>>12275763
>BOTTLE SAYS "DO NOT TELL MY DAD"
>SPEND HOURS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DK
>FUCK
>EVERH SINGLE FUCKING OBSTACLE IS TAKING ME HOURS
>I AM NOT ENJOYING THE GAME
>I SHOULDNT NEED A FUCKING GUIDE EVERY 3 AFTER PLAYING VIDEO GAMES FOR 15 YEARS

>>12276292
games made by humans, anons. humans make errors. no game is perfect
you being unable to yield a SINGLE design flaw shows you arent able to accept any criticism and are a blind fanboy.

>>12276303
sorry you arent able to understand what exxageration is, anon. i know its hard being autistic, seeing people shit on your favorite thing. its ok little guy, nothing is perfectly made

>>12276304
>no game is perfect
youre right
>you being unable to yield a SINGLE design flaw
the goalposts are in another galaxy at this point, the only post I have made in this thread was to rebuke the idea that you not understanding bottles is a design flaw. Its not a fault of the game that you are impatient.

>>12275763
As a kid I didn't need a guide until I came to the Forest Temple as Adult Link. I couldn't handle the mobius strip design.

>>12276261
>complains about ad hominem after calling everyone a retard because he can't make logic conclusions
Hope school is treating you well anon.

>>12276314
>you're right
thats all I needed to hear
you conceded that I am right :) Get fucked, faggot

>>12276326
btw im closing the thread so go ahead and type up your snarky little replies, I already won numerous times ITT and wont be seeing your shitter replies

>>12276330
uh oh, melty

>>12275876
>>12276106
This was written by white Aryan hands.

>>12276238
What kind of sense does it make to never experiment with anything outside of explicit instructions? Games are toys, you're supposed to play with them. Your lack of imagination and curiosity is not a fault with the game.

>>12275775
You're forgetting that 40% of zoomers ARE legitimately retarded and can't read.

Epic thread OP. You could retire now and live off the (You)s ITT alone

Lol this is some of the most autistic shit I've ever read and I've been lurking this stupid fucking site for an embarrassingly long time.

Bravo, OP!

It's fine to suck but it's not fine to continue to suck, hope you learn that someday.

>>12275796
There are way too many ocarina babies on this board to say this shit. They literally do not remember what it was like to not know how to do the young link part of the game, except that it was the pure magic of being 8 years old and allowed to play N64 the entire day after christmas.

>>12276601
Not OP and I didn't have any trouble with this but I did find it mind-numbingly boring and halfway through jabu jabu with that annoying bitch you have to carry around, i decided to find a less shitty game to play.

>>12276665
to be fair, jabu is the worst dungeon in the whole game

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>>12276182
>>12276212
I played LTTP and LOZ first and when I got a bottle in OOT I had no idea what do with it without a net. I kept looking for a net. Also, 99% of the text in OOT is mindmeltingly tedious and useless, outside of dialogue. I didn't need a tutorial the entire game up to the point of needing bottles at which point yeah, I mashed B to get out of the text fast because I figured it was going to function the same as LTTP.

The game teaches the player to become functionally illiterate and skip text because of how fucking boring it is. I just want to play the game not read a book. This is why when video games went 3D it all fell apart and everything turned into a movie. In original LOZ you just find items and treasure and take it, that's that. In OOT the camera spins around as Link timidly opens the chest unsure of himself and you waste a fucking hour on like, 5 worthless rupees. It's bad game design. All Zeldas got worse, progressively worse, on a linear scale after the first game and OOT is no exception. It's boring and it's ASS. Enjoy your shitty post-modern movie game. There is effectively no difference between OOT and Last of Us or whatever goyslop /v/ is salivating over. N64 isn't retro and shouldn't be allowed on this board.

>>12275763
they had to buy nintendo power magazine, published by nintendo, writeen by nintendo, in between articles telling them how great nintendo was they got tips

yes really

>>12276732
my strategy guide says prima on it

>>12276740
just you wait, "ocarina of time was too cryptic" will be the new "crash bandicoot is bullshit hard" meme

>>12276742
kids these days are fucking ridiculous

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Ocarina of Time? More like waste of time

>>12275763
I’m sorry bro, but you lack any sort of critical thinking

>>12276793
>waaah i had to play sun's song six times before i got the BGS
you could've finished forest temple, fire temple and ice cavern while you waited instead

>>12276798
that is Midgoron, not biggoron, punkass.

>>12276812
so you're crying about not being able to do the adult trade sequence as a child?

This thread is interesting because the devs noted that players would naturally experience the game like this while it was in development. Certain people would breeze past certain things because they immediately though to do whatever thing was intended, while others would remain stuck for ages on the same thing, and they had trouble predicting what a given player would actually have problems with. Ultimately, the game is the way is the way it is because they decided to keep in enough stuff that would force the player to engage with the world and explore and interact with it, as opposed to immediately making sure everything would be clearly hinted at. Thankfully there are often multiple solutions to a given problem, where if you've been curious enough you'll stumble upon one of them.

>>12275763
Despite what opposition you're getting, this is a very typical experience of the game, and it was intended as something to slowly take in and explore over time. Don't be concerned about how long it takes, just enjoy the game at whatever pace seems natural to.

>>12276182
>>12276201
You are right about the bottles, someone again might immediately experiment and pick up on what you can do with them, but this really isn't obvious and there are enough things making this not obvious that plenty of people have ended up up stuck in the same situation.

The game peaks when you end up being able to freely time travel, just so you know.

>>12276813
>so you're crying about not being able to do the adult trade sequence as a child?
what? I have brownoid fatigue. Do synapse before posting stupid nonsense

>>12275796
>my IQ is 118
That's a retard, at least from my POV. My IQ is 136, on a bad day.

>>12276881
>i didn't play ocarina of time
thanks for letting us know

>>12276053
>Nobody in their first run could afford it unless they were following a guide.
Wrong. You're projecting because you can't cope with being a lonely retard.

>>12275763
Sage

>>12275796
>118 IQ
>lacks basic critical thought
Sounds about right

>>12276665
It's fine, having shit taste is not illegal.

>>12276874
The more interesting thing is that it apparently never once occurred to them that gating everything in a sequence was the real problem. In the original LoZ, there's rarely any one thing you HAVE to do next. There are usually multiple paths of advancement available at any given time.

In LoZ, the first dungeon that requires you to use bombs to open a required path is level 5. This is despite bombable walls being present in every single prior dungeon. And bombs are useful weapons (required to beat the boss of level 2... though again if you can't figure out Dodongo you can just move on and clear every other level except 9, and iirc 7 because I think there are required Dodongos in there).

In OOT the game """requires you to interact with the world """" because the entire game is full of unique mechanics that are just used once for a single obstacle. The primary skill in OOT is being able to guess how the devs implemented some quasi-realistic IN 3D. Which all these silly defensive ocarina babies are calling "observation" and "critical thinking"

It was mind-blowing to n64 kids in 1998, to see spider webs burn away when you lit them on fire with a torch. To zoomers who grew up with minecraft or older people accustomed to games focused on combat and action or serious dungeon crawling and puzzles, Ocarina of Time just feels like doing a bunch of chores in 3DA.

>>12277127
Nobody with good taste thinks jumping off a waterfall into a pool to catch fish swimming around is good gameplay. It's bad gameplay and only defended because it was so many kids' first experience with a 3D world.

>>12277208
>jumping off a waterfall into a pool to catch fish swimming around
Are you even talking about Zelda?

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>>12276895
You are so stupid, it’s surprising you can even breathe. India should be range banned.

>>12277264
what the fuck is this UI lmao I feel like I can ignore your opinion just for this

>>12277285
>outs himself as a tird worlder
Lmfao
Rofl even.

>>12276793
enough about majora's mask
>got warned for announcing a sago in a shitpost thread
absurd

>>12276813
This one is >>12276793 Medigoron, while the one at the summit is Biggoron. Medigoron is Biggoron's brother, so they’re not the same Goron. You are so retarded and yet you’re still acting cocky.
How can you ask this >>12276813
nonsense? Medigoron has nothing to do with Biggoron Sword. Medigoron's "sword" is the Giant's Knife and brakes with ease, Biggoron Sword is the unbreakable one.
>>12277285
Obnoxious Indian,

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>>12277307
>>12277321
tacky retroarch themes, the white man's burden

>>12277196
>The more interesting thing is that it apparently never once occurred to them that gating everything in a sequence was the real problem.

It's a good thinh they didn't do this and instead gave you a considerable amount of freedom.

>>12275796
>my IQ is 118
Sorry buddy. At least you seem smart to retards.

>>12277285
looks incredibly gay. Not sure why he's sperging about indians when you point it out.

>>12276181
looks like the inside of my rectum

>grown man can't figure out something i figured out alone as a young kid when I couldn't even understand what nuclear weapons were whenever MGS1 mentioned them.

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>>12275763

also please post more fish tits i never played zelda when i was a kid

>>12277967
No, there's not much freedom at all. Not on anything meaningful to advancement.

Yes sure you have plenty of freedom to roam around the walking simulator discovering minigames and NPCs and other random low quality gameplay. But you can't get into any (child link) dungeon without completing the requisite busywork and its either impossible or highly impractical to do any of them out of order.

Brown people lost their right to breath.

>"You didn't play it!"
>Shows up how many hours has played
>"Uh, opinion discarted cuz I don't like your how your retroarch looks like!"
>"Why he's racist towards we, Indians?!"
yawn.
>>12277856
I don't get it, I thought shit was a delicatessen in India; are you implying that you love OOT? You didn’t play the game, and you didn’t even realize that Medigoron and Biggoron are two different Gorons.
>>12277975
A white human won't be moving the goalpost and shitposting this bad, not even south Americans. Only Indians behave like obnoxious retards.

>>12275763
>I SHOULDNT NEED A FUCKING GUIDE EVERY 3 AFTER PLAYING VIDEO GAMES FOR 15 YEARS
Chill. Having a guide at your side is just part of the OoT experience. Play it like a kid and don't overthink it.

>>12276078
>YOU GOTTA TALK TO HER TWICE
Understanding your frustration, but in defense of the past - it very much was an understood part of gaming culture that you talked to NPCs until they start to repeat themselves.
it would be like getting upset that you are "just supposed to know" that left stick is to move, right stick is to look in current gaming. It's the understood culture, so it's barely talked about.
Except today every game has tutorials baked into them.

>>12278208
>But you can't get into any (child link) dungeon
Yes, that's true for child Link (though would be trivial to alter given how bombs are never needed for Jabu), but not at all true for adult Link.

>>12278229
this guy seriously got his feelings hurt because anons didn't like his shitty xmb ui skin lmao

>>12278264
I mean it semi sorta kinda is true. Not like you could finish Water Temple first, for example.

>>12275763
video games for children can be pretty tricky for children sometimes. don't feel too bad about it, OP.

>>12275763
>>BOTTLE SAYS "DO NOT TELL MY DAD"
>>SPEND HOURS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DK
>>GOOGLE IT
>>"show the bottle to the dad"
>>FUCK
irreparably filtered

>>12278385
OP is a nice guy then. No one likes snitches.

>>12276182
anon IQ is a largely fixed trait and we can’t help him
critical thinking can be taught but you can probably tell this anon is an impatient moron

that or he’s trolling in which case 7/10 I replied to this thread like a fucktard

>>12276294
Sounds like a personal problem

>>12275763
boomer larp thread
>broooo ooot is so hard broo... oot is the le hardest game ever broh...

>>12278790
I don't get people who go online and ironically or not go "UGH this game made for SEVEN YEAR OLDS is too damn HARD you need a guide for EVERYTHING"

>>12278483
this episode teaches link and the player the importance of personal responsibility. you're supposed to recognize that sometimes you need to put aside childish games for the greater good. fitting overture to the final dungeon of the child arc, wouldn't you say?

>>12278812
It's a play, OP is putting on a stage play for us to show us how hard the game really is for serious this time guys it's not a baby game. Here's proof that will be referenced in 2 years in some retarded console war argument about how all of /vr/ struggled with this game because this ass thread.

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>>12278190

>>12275763
Sage

i thought that everyone who ever played any zelda game tried using new equipment as soon as they found it, just to see what happens

>>12275763
I’m 100% with you in this and I’m a Metroid 1 defender.

>>12279342
Not the mentally ill, as op proves.

>>12275763
Your problem is that you try to impose this "no game should need a guide" mindset on games from the past that were literally made in such a way that you'd get stuck and need a guide, or a hotline. You are trying to shape the world to this idea that the internet gave you about guides. Just read the guide. Sometimes the idea can't beat reality.

Why do you fags always fall for the easiest bait, god DAMN you're gullible

>>12275763
based gaming sesh, glad you enjoyed it OP

>>12280486
OoT was not designed to need a guide. That whole idea died out sometime in 4th gen.

>>12280820
It's why every minute or so Navi will go "hey" and remind you what your current mission objective is.

>>12280820
Guides were very prevalent in 5th gen, they just stopped being lucrative because the internet and GameFaqs killed their business model. Not before they tried, though. Some of the most blatantly guide-oriented designs ever are 5th gen (Final Fantasy IX).

Games in 3rd and 4th gen were mostly not designed to need guides either, the idea that they were is 99% zoomer revisionism based on the fact that Nintendo Power existed and there was an aftermarket for tips and guides.

>>12281289
Prevalent? Yes.
Necessary by design? No.
Big difference.

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In-game map has a blinking dot for places where the next main story event takes place and if you are on a trading quest (chicken, biggoron sword) there's a red marker over that location.
Navi usually will tell you specifics as someone has pointed out. Or there are NPCs you can talk to.
Not everything obtuse in an old game was to sell guides like everyone says these days, I think that was a rare thing.

>>12275796
Dude that's barely above average. You need to be atleast 200iq to understand Zelda.

>>12275763
I kinda like how its a bit unintuitive, gives it a gritty, obscure feeling. You talk to everyone and you get slight hints but nobody tells you exactly how to do it. You have to break your mind a little bit, experimenting, exploring. I think its good for an adventure game to stump you every once and a while