Having an odd issue bros, my wrist hurts a lot when playing on stickI'm pretty sure I'm holding it correctly, but playing for even an hour results in painI don't have wrist pain otherwise, any help?
>>12301972hold the ball like it's a fancy wine glass
>>12301978But I already do that
>>12301979then there shouldn't be a problem at all with your wrist. your wrist should be fixed and all movement should be coming from your elbow/shoulder
that's definitely odd. you have a deficiency of some sort, you're not getting enough nutrients though your regular dietary intakedrinking popcorn juice might help
vaxx status?
>>12301972people with carpel tunnel use wrist braces. a wrist brace will also help avoid carpel tunnel. the limited movement to the wrist with help train your body to use the elbow and shoulder more.
>>12302019I don't think I have carpal tunnel doe
>>12301972buy a hand grip and squeeze it
Change your positioning, probably to straighten out your wrist but different one way or another. One thing about small sticks like the 8bitdo or a Mayflash F300 or whatever is to cram in 8 buttons everything has to be much more biased to the left side than on wider cases and for me the stick being too far to the left means bending my wrist back more to match the distance the buttons are at. Never had pain from it but it does mess with my inputs.
>>12301972If you have hand/wrist pain, I can't stress this enough, going full on no fap will help you.
>>12302052but i hold the stick with my left hand and jack off with my right
>>12301972don't seek medical help from a retro games board
>>12301972>but playing for even an hourTake breaks, hour is a lot
>>12302047This but get proper nutrition also. When I was like 25 my doctor gave me these mega vitamin d pills because my vitamin d levels were super low which probably happened over the course of college not being out in the sun and only going out with friends at night. I remember going in because my wrists hurt all the fucking time. It’s annoying because while I could tell you to up your vitamin d, and take like 3000 iu of d3 a day, you also want to be taking vitamin k with it as well and magnesium from what I understand if you are taking it long term for years every day. That’s an entire rabbit hole, but for the next month or so take 3000 iu of D3 every day in the same meal as some kind of dietary fat like yogurt tuna avacado egg nuts or whatever can be a hamburger for all I care
>>12301972Take two aleve and move on.
what I noticed is that most people if not all with this kind of problem dont work out. you can have your own believes and stereotypes about lifting weights or excercise all you want but the human body is literally made to be used. use it or lose it. its interesting how people would rather find work arounds or do operations and whatnot before they change their diet or exercise habbits.
>>12302041>a wrist brace will also help avoid carpel tunnel.literally the second sentence
>>12301972>he fell for the ball top meme
>>12301972short answer:stop using a balltop and just get something with a layout like this. The ones without an up input above the other 3 are for FGCfags.long autistic answer:The only reason arcade games used balltop sticks is because they were durable enough for fucktard children and fucktard manchildren wouldn't annihilate the cabinet after one day. Even within their primary genres of shmups and fighting games, they're far and away the absolute worst input both ergonomically (cramping, unpleasant) and advantageously (slow, comparatively imprecise), even less thought of basic shit like just stowing that shit in a bag or changing art out for custom art, is harder on a big stick. The only reason to use one is to feel like a badass because you it's way harder to do a kara cancel or a standing 360 compared to a leverless, but I'm too busy jamming thumbtacks up my foreskin to do something so wasteful with my time
>>12302241It's probably bad diet and/or early onset arthritis
>>12302241>>12302558>>12303220This took quite a turn into projection city
>>12302825The amount of humans giving themselves crippling hand and wrist issues on that garbage is 10x a joystick faggot. Even putting aside general issues like piano'ing against the slope of your hand for quarter circles to the left in fighting games, the shitbox layout was designed for 1) using 24mm arcade buttons that are really too far apart for wiring simplicity and 2) crossing hands for twitter party tricks rather than being remotely good for the human body.The idea at all that joystick inputs are slow is pure unfounded midwit reddit science, in reality the ranking for special move motions is something like pad>stick=leverless towards the right and stick>pad>>leverless to the left and dashing is pretty much the same on anything but an analog stick unless you have ultra low travel meme buttons and practice an SOCD exploit. Releasing diagonals so you don't skip cardinals is as much of a precision problem as anything on a joystick.It isn't the answer to just holding a joystick at the wrong angle.>The only reason arcade games used balltop sticks is because they were durable enough for fucktard children and fucktard manchildren wouldn't annihilate the cabinet after one day.Classic arcade games could have kept using buttons for directional input if cost and retard proofing was the sole criteria.
>>12302019I started using this and its a life safer.
Bat top works for me. Forces you to slap the stick more than gripping it, maybe? Just a thought.I'd also try the wrist brace, regardless of diagnosis or lack thereof. I've had issues in the past, though i'm fine rn, and i'll file this idea away if things come back.
I only ever have this problem doing the up down motion in TGM
>>12303298>FGCucks screaming for over a decade that leverless boxes are cheating>literally created for people with carpal tunnel/arthritis/etc to avoid bone hurting>this fucking retard is expecting me to believe waggling his microdick is superior Salty 40+ yr old fighting game faggot detected. Eat shit and keep trying to KBD faster than some kid playing for the first time with a leverless. Oh right, you can't
>>12303620It was created for poorfag GGPO players that never learned to play on anything but their mom's laptop and needed something they could plug into a PS3, the sheer concept that A FUCKING KEYBOARD would be the solution to carpal tunnel is absurd. I think thou spic doth protest too much.>KBDAh yes the game where literally no one on leverless has ever won anything ever except when Akuma was about 10 nerfs from still being the best character in the game.
>>12303298you have a finger simultaneously on every single move direction, with leverless. It's basic physics that you can't be faster on a stick than a leverless, especially if the leverless has short actuation switches, because your fingers don't have to travel anywhere to push them. I don't know how you can even begin to cope like this, when the basic fact that one has to move a physical stick to each direction, and the other can push any direction instantly at any given time, proves you wrong immediately. 2cm is a longer distance than 0.2 centimeters, Fudd
>>12303632I'm a 32 year old programmer and writer with a 95 to 105 average WPM. My father is double my age with an even higher WPM. Neither of us have ever had any wrist issues from typing several hours a day.
>>12301972Do your wrist and arm exercises
>>12303634What did I fucking say about unfounded midwit reddit science? Your hand moves much faster than your finger, it doesn't fucking matter. You just assume arcade joysticks must work a certain way without really knowing anything. Just stick up your finger and wiggle it back and forth as fast as you can and stick up your other hand and bend your wrist back and forth as fast as you can and become smarter.
>>12303224>these guys nailed it
>>12303637Been using computers chronically since middle school. Was born with an ability to clack my wrists to piss people off and have been doing it for decades. WPM is 130+ drunk 99%+ accuracy. Still no problems.
>>12303620When did people stop saying hitbox and started saying leverless?
>>12303704About when the Hit Box brand lost its commercial domination of the space to other companies using a more generic description. It's also because there's a lot of alternative (both better or fucking weird) formats for all button fighting game controllers now as games pile on using all the buttons on a gamepad and people have realized ergonomics are more important than tricks involving being able to press buttons with either hand nobody ever actually uses.
>>12301972I was having wrist pain, the tendon in my thumb to be specific. It eventually fixed itself after half a year and hasn't came back.
>>12303620For me it's the FGC being so fucking stupid that they can't work out how to use a computer
>>12303641this anon gets it
>>123036483.4 milimeters is a shorter distance than 1 centimeter, Anon. constantly having a finger on every possible input gives a hand faster access to each input than having to move between each oneI'm sorry you've got a nostalgic attachment to fondling balls, because that's the only controls you had on your shitbox bodega's Neo Geo (even if the Neo Geo is fucking based), but it's just a basic property of physical reality that 3.4 millimeters is shorter than 1+ centimeters
>>12303648>unfounded science>Your hand moves much faster than your finger, it doesn't fucking matter. this just in, you can swing a broom faster than a conductor's baton>You just assume arcade joysticks must work a certain way without really knowing anything.I have a mayflash F500, and a Fightbox with MX Silver switches. I have used both. You're an idiot. If you actually played fighting games and used both you'd know that there is actually an area where sticks, specifically octagonal gates, are easier than a leverless, due to mental stack: half circles.On a non WASD styled leverless the split second you have to mentally map out the half circle can trip you up for enough frames for it to fuck you up. It's a thing you can overcome with time, practice, and skill, but there's one game where that mental hurdle is enough that in Windjammers it'll fuck you up, especially if you have up on the thumb input. This also extends to any characters who use primarily half circle inputs, but for things like shoryus it's the same motion as going >right click > left click > right clickon your mouse, which is, again, faster than moving a stick in a Z motion across a several times longer distanceThere is nothing wrong with preferring how a stick feels, but you're objectively wrong that the execution ceiling will ever be as high as on a leverless
>>12303704when zoomies needed to start using a new word for something cause reasons
>>12305001If distance is the only thing that matters why haven't I been hearing about how much faster thumb sticks are or how controller players can press buttons faster because their face button diamond takes up as much space as a single 30mm button for 20 years? Why are you using long travel full height keyboard switches that are meant for not fat fingering all the keys at once while typing at all?>>12305021In any game where DP inputs are that sloppy you can mash them out on stick as well, everything is basically limited by how fast your nerves can tell your muscles at the end of your arm to switch direction with the exception being if you can find a way to double tap one button with two fingers (basically impossible with keyboard keys, very hard with 24mm buttons) or use two hands instead of one to overlap two inputs (and no I don't mean piano'ing adjacent directions, a joystick is functionally a dedicated multiple button press overlapping device). Like I've tried this, on nearly every input device I press 7.5-8 times a second: arcade joystick, d-pad, keyboard, arcade button, mouse click, it doesn't make a difference you could notice in a 60fps game. The only thing I've seen where hitbox is truly faster and not just able to avoid neutral with SOCD last is alternating between back and down back. Maybe that applies to crouching DPs as well, I've never counted frames on it. But there's a reason the great arcade fighting game gods have been playing on the things for 7 years and they aren't actually doing any better, it's not as good as they think, it's not as good as you think, and the differences between every input device people actually use are much more nuanced.Just to emphasize how vibe science all this is, a Hori Hayabusa joystick has a wider gate and a softer spring than a Sanwa JLF which many people think would slow you down and those changes were specifically made for Sako who is probably the fastest inputting fighting game player on Earth.
>>12301972Do you stretch regularly? If not then you might as well get on that because age.
>>12302019can i use this for drawing, and will it make me feel like oot link wearing his gauntlets
>>12301972stop masturbating like a chimp and start inseminating a fertile womb with your erect penis to create human life
>>12307023why the fuck would i do that?
>>12307023stop telling physically and mentally inferior men to reproduce
>>12301972I can use joystick no issue but only a little bit of button mashing kills my hand. Was playing TMNT Turtles in Time on an arcade cab with my kid and I could only last ten minutes.
>>12307263>with my kid
>>12301972i only ever had to do this for guitar, but same difference desu>take a big pot of water>heat it up so its hot like a bath/hottub temp>dunk your affected arms elbow in>let it heat up>take your other hand and start massaging any tension in you forearm starting at elbow, and moving up to wrist>take elbow out, straighten arm, then use your other arm to stretch your wrist by grabbing your fingers and stretching the wrist backwards>repeat (ideally daily, and/or before/after you play)that said, i suppose you could just take a bath and do it there if u wanna be a FAGGOTbut if its RSI, this will help. the only problem is the tension might be further up your arm, into your shoulder area, or even your neck. depends how tense you are when playing and for how long youve played that waythe shoulder is a lot harder to deal with, since its so much harder to stretch. basic bitch yoga poses are unironically gonna be your best bet with that.and rememeber: if youre stretching anything, and it hurts, youre fucking shit up for yourself even more. so just dont stretch like a meathead. this isnt deadlifting. youre trying to heal shit, not bulk up lol
>>12307339one more thing i forgot to addthe only REAL way to actually heal RSI is just fucking stop doing what youre doing that caused itthe stretches are just to help loosen up so youre not making it worseif its rly bad and hurts a lot, do what i said in terms of stretches, but DONT play. AT ALL. ideally for a wk or twothat should clear it up for sure unless youve gone beyond RSI and actually hurt yourself
>>12306213artists already use similar things
>>12303704people kept calling it HRT box
>>12307310>>with my kidSorry im not a permavirgin anon. On top of /vr gaming I fish, ride quads, and coach. Can't pigeon hole anons on here.
>>12307726>i do all these things with my hands but cry after playing a video game for 10 minutesYou really didn't think that one through did you kiddo
>>12307741Whatever helps you cope anon. Hopefully I hope all goes well.
>>12307969but that's literally what you're doing
>>12301990>please... anything to validate my beliefs that I have been shown to be unfounded...
>>12307969I've got nothing to cope with champ. I can play games with my kids for more than 10 minutes.
>>12302019These are incredibly helpful. Sometimes I'll get wrist pain from a lot of heavy typing and gaming. Wearing one of these for a day while I'm working gets my hand back to normal
>>12309603Good old compression
