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just finished the first dungeon. what am I in for?
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One of the greatest game of all time
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You tell me
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>>12304151
a shitty ending unless you follow a guide step by step
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>>12304158
star ocean 2 is better
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>>12304161
Story : Valkyrie Profile
Battle system : Valkyrie Profile
Dungeon : Valkyrie Profile
Originality : Valkyrie Profile
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>>12304163
so2 has objectively better combat, dungeons and replay value. the dungeons in VP are a tedious mess

but they are both 9/10s at worst so who cares
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>>12304167
I do not agree

Valkyrie Profile dungeons are brillant ,full of ideas,very original with the 2D platforming and visually breathtaking
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>>12304169
the platforming is the main issue I have with it. every time an rpg tries to incorporate platforming its extremely clunky and annoying and VP is no different. but to each their own
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>>12304169
>very original with the 2D platforming
that doesn't necessarily make it good. i've always wondered why the fuck jumping straight up gives you no control over your movement in the air, but jumping forward gives you full control
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>>12304196
>jumping straight up gives you no control over your movement in the air
well it does, it's just extremely limited compared to when you jump forward
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>>12304160
yeah Ive heard this so Im playing hard mode and looked up a guide on how to get the good ending. sue me but Id rather see all the content on my first run.

just finished the first chapter and sent up that little weak nigga with the bow. really fucking cool game so far
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>>12304167
SO2 is an action game and Valkyrie Profile is an unique turn based game with combo based gameplay.
SO2 is generic mash button slop, there is actual game design in VP.

>>12304565
Tbf the true end is kinda convoluted. In the normal end you actually Engage in the war and there is an actual final dungeon and a fitting final boss.
With so many characters and event exp you can do another unique playthrough (Normal has unique dungeons and since Hard isn't actually gameplay related you can play that).
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>>12304592
>unique playthrough
to add to this, party members you get in certain chapters are randomized.
like, the musashi character might be available in chapter 4 instead of chapter 2 like your previous run, or you might get the rapier girl in chapter 5 instead of chapter 6 like before
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>>12304592
Im gonna make a separate save file to do both endings on the same run. will do the "bad" one first.
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>>12304631
The normal and true endings can be done on the same playthrough. Simply do everything that needs the true ending, and then when you've done everything at the final chapter, just save there and either continue to the normal or true ending route.
The bad one is the only one you'll likely need a separate run for.
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OUGI!
FINALITY BLASTOOO!
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>>12304954
the 4kids dub just can't compare to the original VA intensity
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why the hell are special attacks called weird souls
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Nibelung Valesti !!!
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OP, if you didnt know already, keep all of the artifacts. the hit to your eval points wont matter if youre transferring at least one soul a chapter who fits freyas requirements. also since youre going for good ending you shouldnt be doing more than one soul/chapter since it raises your seal by a lot.
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lenneth voice makes my pp hard.
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>>12305070
"Purify Weird Soul" is the same in Japanese, so a clear case of Engrish.
If you go by the game's theme, most of the enemies are either undead or otherworldly beasts, so a more apt term would be "Wicked" instead of Weird.
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>>12305104
i really like when she comments about them
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VP is an interesting game but not a very gamey game. It's mostly just a string of misery porn cutscenes, then you do some bing bing wahoo and press the same button combination a lot, rinse, repeat.
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>>12305104
ahh okay that makes sense, cause youre about to BTFO the brown soul

you just cleared up a 25 year mystery for me
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>>12305210
>press the same button combination a lot
I like to change my party around every dungeon to avoid this
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>>12305076
I like how the game doesn't even try to sidestep the issue of Lezard wanting to bang Lenneth. She barely keeps herself composed enough to say Lezard did everything he did because of "base desires" (ie. fucking her).

>>12305203
I think the first vampire boss you find also elicits a similar response.
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>>12305104
It was probably originally 変, which can mean among other things "Odd", "Weird", or "Abominable".

Is Valkyrie Profile the first JRPG to break the 9999 HP barrier?
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>>12305649
Nope, Villgust predates it.
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>>12305661
Who is this qt?
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>>12306232
her name is Chris :)
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>>12306272
Chris from the acclaimed Resident Evil series?
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>just saw the yumei cutscene
jesus christ man
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>clockwork mansion
fuck whoever designed this dungeon right in the ass
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I know Im only talking to myself in this thread but damn, I just blew 6 hours straight on this game like it was nothing. been a while since Ive gotten hooked like that.
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>>12306571
I told you it was one of the greatest game of all time
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>>12306573
Maybe not greatest but it was a very good game.
Such a shame the following completely dropped the ball as they don't really scratch that itch the first game gave me.
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man some of these dungeons are brilliant and some of them make me want to shoot myself in the head. lezard tower is such a pain. theyre all gorgeous though and I really appreciate how different they all look from each other.
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>>12305210
>you do some bing bing wahoo and press the same button combination a lot, rinse, repeat.
>>12305393
now play Knights In The Nightmare(yes NDS is not retro) and tell me you want more originality and variety.

more retro original game: Yggdra Union.
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i've beat this game 3 times and not once have i gotten the true ending
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>>12309345
It's not hard to get, it's just bullshit.
if you wanna play the sequel with the better story but worst gameplay, you should totally do it
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>>12304151
>>12304151
>>12304151

This is one of those games that you can never tell what you're actually doing or whether it's correct or not without an actual honest to god guide. I put like 4 hours into it and gave up because it felt like I was messing things up in the story line. Then the first real difficulty spike was platforming being ridiculous in a dungeon that I wasn't even sure if I was supposed to be in.
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>>12304592
aren't you just spamming attacks in VP but you have a limited # of things you can spam? genuinely never got around to it
also how bad is the PSP equpi/unequip, kind of want to play undubbed
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>>12309396
yeah it's just a matter of following directions but i'm pretty bad at that. to my credit though, i was unaware of the true ending those first two times. and the third time was me learning about it, loosely following a guide thinking i could wing it, and then failing. i actually kept telling myself once i got the true ending i'd move on to 2. and that was roughly 20 years ago by this point. funny this resulted in me having a copy of VC2 still wrapped in the plastic though.
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>>12309480
>aren't you just spamming attacks in VP but you have a limited # of things you can spam?
The game has hitboxes and such, so you can miss if an enemy gets juggled too high or something. Finding combos you can work with is part of the fun. Some party members need proper combos so they can do their special attacks.
It's got some jank sometimes though, like how for some reason attacks come out way too delayed and so your combo ends up breaking, like there's an attack buffer or something.
>also how bad is the PSP equpi/unequip
I didn't mind it, but maybe it's just my playstyle that helped ease that
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>>12304151
A whole lot of spergy micro-management.
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>>12309531
Also the more your hits land while an enemy is mid-air, the more EXP you get. And the more hits you land while an enemy is down on the ground, the more of those recovery balls you get. I think the more hits you land in general on an enemy, the higher a chance you get an item to drop.
All this doesn't apply to special attacks though
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>>12309334
>more retro original game: Yggdra Union
Play the GBA original if you wanna be hardcore btw
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Why couldn't Xenogears' gameplay copy from this game instead?
Deathly Blows fucking blows
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>>12310008
tri-ace>>>>squaresoft in terms of rpg gameplay systems
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>>12310008
The gameplay in Xenogears was just an excuse.
If they made it play more like the Battle Arena, nobody would miss the original gameplay
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whats the most meta party comp? 1/2/3 mages? should I have an archer? who are the best melee fighters? as far as I can tell, the mages are basically interchangeable, and fragile, but OP. but having 2 also makes it harder to combo into special moves when you need to
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>>12309561
Is this like Project x Zone's gameplay? I love those game and the gameplay combo juggling was so fun.
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>>12310014
Lenneth with bow
Arngrim
Lawfer
Mystina

Once you get to Seraphic Gate:
Lenneth with bow
Freiya
Brahms
Lezard
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>>12310058
Not at all.
Project x Zone has a pair and a backup fighting against an enemy.
Valkyrie Profile has 4 characters fighting against a bunch of enemies, and all your characters can attack at once (each face button is a character). There is juggling.



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