or go digging in ditches for a crt or pay scalper prices on ebay anymorewe have a solution... meet the retrobox.
>>12325503where are they sourcing new VCR mechs? Also this doesn't really look that promising; you might as well buy a 15khz 4:3 LCD from the early 2000s
>>12325503vhs is such a terrible format people that dickride it are so pathetic. VHS was never soulful it was always terrible and theres a difference between a 16bit snes game played on a crt and a movie shot on 35mm pan and scanned down to a shitty 4:3 vhs. Noone should want to watch something on it.
>>12325503redditbox*
>>12325583it's brainrotted zoomers who associate the shitty quality with "analog aesthetics".
>>12325583It's part of a wider "back to analog" nostalgia/pseudo-nostalgia thing, much of it from millenials who were too young to remember the issues and zoomers who were never there but like the aesthetics for whatever reason. As for VHS itself, I did like that you could stop a tape at a specific point and come back to it later, which was harder to do with DVD (though of course chapters helped), but everything else sucked.
>>12325503Imagine paying $400 for a CRT filter.
>>12325583honestly its more about the content than the format. On VHS you have old childhood family tapes and some movies that never got rereleased or were altered in future releases.
>>12325616>what is a $750 retrotink 4k
>>12325503Wow it's just like a real CRT except I don't have to worry about it giving me eye cancer or burning my house down.
>>12325503if they're not using an oled this thing is doa
>>12325619The prime example of retro retardation.
you already have a general for this
>>12325618The thing to do in those cases is to digitally scan them ASAP. Tapes are prone to decay and lose quality. I get the appeal of physical media, but tapes are just too flawed.
>>12325583Any media storage medium based on magnetic tape completely sucks. Absolutely the worst format that degrades after every use and can completely erase if you used anywhere with a magnet nearby
>>12325637have sex
>>12325639i dont think most people know how to do that
>>12325583Vhs is perfectly fine and a cheap way to watch movies. Unless you are watching a tape that is completely fucked of course.
>>12325661>Vhs is perfectly fine and a cheap way to watch movies.only if youre using a crt, otherwise dvds are cheaper, better quality, upscale better and if youre using a full screen dvd, is better even on a crt.
>>12325661>Vhs is perfectly fine and a cheap way to watch movies.did you just wake up from a 30 year coma? 4k movies in the correct aspect ratio are free now.
>>12325583this, laserdisc WON
>>12325619Retarded? Just like this product?Literally just go on facebook marketplace and buy any CRT with component inputs for $50. You don't need anything else.
>>12325618The number of actual movies that got a VHS release but not a DVD one must be extremely small. DVD was also before the cancerous modern censorship era, bar obvious famous shit like the Star Wars SEs. I guess if you want to watch the kind of stuff that appears on Wheel of the Worst then VHS is the way to go, but other than that it's a pure novelty format at this point.t. somebody who owns several VCRs and watched their VHS copy of Die Hard on Christmas Eve
>>12325583> pan and scanned downNot always, quite a lot of films are shot in 4:3 and cropped into "slit vision" for cinematic release. vhs gets open matte, so is actually the superior release. For many films vhs is the only open matte release. And personally, I would take vhs open matte over 4K slit vision.
Perfect for the same retards buying mini consoles. Glad to see people use their budget toward this stuff so that I can buy the real thing for less.
>>12325657So they should pay someone to do it that does. Better use of money than actually hunting down an old VHS deck or paying a premium for whatever the fuck this abomination is.
>>12325583i have over 600 vhs tapes :)
>>12325728CRTs that small don't usually have stereo sound, much less component inputs. And good luck finding anything good for $50.
>>12325503A link would have been nice. There's a million things called "retrobox".
>>12325618>some movies that never got rereleasedMost are shit that are just irredeemably bad, anything of value has at least been transferred to DVD at some point
>>12326090Wrong.
>>12326098Give one example.
>>12326107Song of the South
>>12326114It's on internet archive, I don't need VHS
>>12326116Bootlegs don't count, but yeah I got that one.Next time ask for 15 examples. Live and learn, brrrrrrrrrrro.
>>12325583I agree with this, outside of straight to video releases. The film collecting equivalent of collecting original game carts would be collecting original film reels.VHS is fine, though. I still have a ton of them from back in the day and plan to keep them, but I don't understand paying a premium for them. If you're wanting display pieces, I'd say that LD is the way to go.
>paying for shadersHere I thought people couldn't get any more retarded but nope, I was wrong.
>>12326138Once they get a flatscreen to do old light gun games you won't be laughing and instead crying that you didn't get in on the ground floor.Manny such game cases!
>$400>faux CRT that's actually just a tiny LCD>every model is already sold outlol, the absolute state of this shit. At this rate actual peo CRTs will be price in the five figures.
>>12326129>If you're wanting display pieces, I'd say that LD is the way to go.Lol Laserdiscs have THE best sound of ALL formats that aren't magnetic 70mm film tracks.This isn't up for debate.
>>12326159Got a link? I want to know how much for one, then I got more questions if I can just SEE IT.
>>12326163retrobox.us
>>12326182Thank you!Overpriced, but I wonder how many they sold. God bless 'em anyway.
there's no indication that these are even real and the only images presented are shopped. it would be easy to stick an OLED and LCD panel in a plastic chassis that resembles a CRT, but where did they get the VCR components? there's a chinese company that manufactures audio cassette decks that everyone uses for their modern versions, but there's no indication that anyone has been making modern VCRs, especially considering the technology is more complicated than audio tapes. otherwise they've had to have found a warehouse for of new old stock, which also seems unlikely. plus look at the """creators'""" photo, it some stock or AI horseshit.it's a scam.
>>12326216Maybe, but it isn't a bad idea.
>>12326221i think it's neat and eventually we'll definitely see more mock CRTs that are just OLED's with a CTR filter. and even though i prefer the real thing, as CRTs continue to age and die, i think it's a welcome way for younger people to get into retro games and try to capture a bit of the original experience.
>>12326230That's pretty much how I feel about it, also CRTs weighing a lot doesn't help with business innovation either. I have an idea, but it's just not "there" yet because of it.
>>12326198i think the sold out claim might be bs because it asks you to give your email to be notified when their first presale drops
>>12326304Fake it 'til you make it, eh? Probably.Tell you this right now, unless they're being foolish with the VCR parts, it's massively overpriced.
>>12326316>massively overpricedOn the consumer end, I would definitely agree. On the production end, I guess it depends. If it is indeed a startup, with the way prices on things are nowadays, plus the need to design and coordinate manufacture, you pretty much have to charge a good chunk to even make it worth the time and effort.
>>12326361Yes, and I bet it's costing them close to 300 bucks for each unit, hence the >only $525.00!>did we say that? we meant $399.99!Hmmmm
This is such a strange product to me, you're basically buying the CRT "asthetic" without any of the benefit or actual nostalgia of a real CRT (which can still be readily found, many for much less than the cost of this). I guess hipsters who want an easy, albeit awkward, way to watch their bluray and digital movies with a filter?
>>12326398Those are valid complaints, but consider that many people don't want used products and many others don't want heavy used products.>inb4 CRTs at 13" are featherweights!Yeah people are lazy and weak nowadays, so they need products that cater to them.Then there's disabled folks who lack the strength and extra oomph to go out and find the flea market/garage sale deals.
>>12326398it's for younger genZs who didnt ever experience actual CRTs to try to win cool points to other genZs who wont know its even a fake CRT
>>12326040tjs know there are certain lines they can't cross in their shilling
>>12326398the worst part to me is the composite input in the front being mono only, like fucking why? idc if most vcr combos werel ike that when you put a fucking hdmi jack in the front, just add stereo.
>>12325619never fall for that snake oil bullshit
>>12326545Hah. What an odd way for them to save money. Guess the VCR part did eat up costs.
>>12325821Pan and scan jobs vastly outnumber open matte releases. Calling open matte "superior" is also nonsense. The film isn't supposed to be seen that way and there are often boom mics and other shit left in shot as a result.
>>12326545>idc if most vcr combos werel ike thatThat's another funny thing, these mini TV + VCR combo sets were typically cheap secondary TVs, aka "kitchen TV," that people would set up on the kitchen counter or in the breakfast nook, to have something on while getting ready in the morning, with the VCR often used to record something off TV. I'm sure a lot of kids had them in playrooms/bedrooms as well, and even adults as a bedtime watching TV, but they really weren't ideal movie watching TVs. Even among modern CRTfags, I didn't get the impression these things were in any way desirable until just a couple years ago. My only guess is that as CRT prices continue to skyrocket, the bar for what's desirable gets lower and lower, because decently sized, high end sets have reached price points that not even retrofags can afford.
>>12326685Where's the boom mic in that pic?
>>12326685> The film isn't supposed to be seen that wayAt least you can actually see something. Slit vision is so cramped you can hardly see anything. Seeing the occasional boom mike, is well worth it to not watch through a narrow slot.
>>12326813It's at the bottom of the screen.
>>12326398Its just a strange product all around, with a very niche market. But then again you had people buying "LCD CRTs" which were the same thing as this, using Ipad screens or laptop panels back in 2021.
>>12326813
>>12326695it can vary, there's no absolute hard rule but I'd say your conclusion is basically opposite of my experience scanning the second hand market. people seem to often just want to get rid of big sets, even late 00s era models, you'll often find them for 20$ or even free. small sets on the other hand are almost always jacked up unless they're ancient. besides the practical benefits I think having a small crt sitting on your desk has become more synonymous with the retro marketing gimmick than the living room sets.
>>12327032Imagine if that had been a BBC instead
>>12325503>shill thread is still here
Didn't people used to be able to buy VHS tapes at like Goodwill and other thriftshops, flea markets, etc for like 50c each?
>>12327217Gokubro...
>not a real crtthat means i cannot play time crisis 2 on it. it's useless to me.vhs are neat but i can live without themit's ridiculously expensive anyways
>>12326695As far as desirability goes I want to say the kitchen style CRT is perfect for small screen games like the gameboy, wonderswan, and gamegear.
>>12326127Give me 14 more examples
>>12327345Goodwill raised their prices, VHS are a $1 now.
>>12327345>>12327434the thrift near me now sells the "good VHS"s for $10
>>12325576>this doesn't really look that promisingIt's garbageThe VCR is probably cheap shit. This is not going to be JVC quality.
>>12326685I've watched several hundred open mattes and only seen a single boom mic in this example. Uncropped is superior
>>12327280its a sarcasm thread actually
>Retrobox fake CRT TVsold out>Frutiger Aero mousesold out>fake CRT Checkmate monitorsold out>ITX-Llama mobosold out>Pixel x86sold outAmazing. I actually unironically love fake retro stuff and I'm glad companies are finally jumping into this train. Most old stuff were inferior / hard to set up etc... while imitating them is much easier. I wish someone would make a high quality 4:3 fake CRT. Something similar to Checkmate but cheaper.
>>123274101: The pre-1969 version of Fantasia.2: The Goonies--the real theatrical cut that has been unseen since 1985.3: The original cut of The Black Cauldron.4: The original cut of The Wizard of Oz-lost for decades; some footage persists in the trailer.5: The original cut of Terminator 3. (various things cut and and are not even in the deleted scenes)6: The original cut of Star Wars. (no it has never ever been released for sale)7: The original cut of Return of the Jedi-not seen since its 1985 re-release.8: The original cut of Flash Gordon (1980). Cut on TV in the mid-80s and put on DVD ;et al in TV broadcast form.9: The original theatrical cut of The Phantom Menace-only on VHS and Laserdisc.10: The complete cut of 1985's Clue-not seen since that year and never placed on any home format.11: The original theatrical edition of Godzilla (1954) has never been released in full. (the cow eating scene is gone)12: Conan the Barbarian-the original theatrical cut has never been released onto DVD or Blu-ray.13: Conan the Destroyer-same.14: The Force Awakens-has never been released in fully uncut form. (the TIE Fighter sunset was cut down by a few seconds along with some other small cuts)Bonus: The Curse of Frankenstein has a missing scene for decades and is not on DVD for sure.That's 15, buddy. 16 if you count Song of the South.
>>12327732Not really, 35mm film is roughly equivalent to 5600x3620 resolution which gets downscaled for home releases, open matte gives you lower pixel resolution in the focus area of the film.
>>12327997I don't think the Force Awakens got a VHS release
>>12328026We're talking about DVD releases and even its VHS release is cut.
*everything is put on VHS--everything. But yeah, no official TFA VHS.
>>12328031nigga the force awakens is disney starwars
>>12328140And?
>>12328152>Star Wars: The Force Awakens (also known as Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens) is a 2015 American epic space opera film>2015That's a good decade after VHS was declared dead, anon...
>>12328235Everything is on tape. Released officially on tape all the time? No.
>>12328242we are talking about home releases here retard
>>12328242I thought bootlegs didn't count.
ITT underage pseuds trying too hard to fit in fixate on something off topic and irrelevant.
>>12328249They don't, but I felt the need to mention that VHS bootlegs of TFA are well known. Sorry.>>12328247Correct. Me dumb.
>>12327995I'm fine with faux retro designs and styles, I just personally see less of a point with things like this faux CRT, where you aren't getting the benefits (real or perceived) of a real CRT.
>>12328015Open matte is superior. Enjoy your cut version while I enjoy what the director and cameraman envisioned during production.
>>12328612>Enjoy your cut version while I enjoy what the director and cameraman envisioned during production.holy retard
>>12325503>>12326182why is there only one picture and barely any information about what it actually is? this screams scam
what about Checkmate
>>12328990trash
>>12328942it is, they have an instagram too and theres still no actual photos of a unit
>>12325503i like how it doesnt even say the " of the screen but the refresh rate. what the fuck
>>12325503The people that buy these are the same people that claim that they used to have crts but hated them and were glad to get an lcd and would never go back.
>>12329005what in the fuck
>>12329026>tiny shitbox camper crtwho the fuck wants to game on that?
>>12329027tbf its advertised for vhs more than as a gaming tv
>>12329032who the fuck wants to watch vhs tapes on a camper tv at their house? Who would pay 500 bucks for this.
>>12329035r*dditors
>>12329027Its not a CRT it's an LCD screen with a CRT filter
>>12329027This "product" is so dumb it's actually making me kind of mad. Are shitbox camper TVs really so hard to come by now that anyone is actually buying a ridiculous clone for five hundred fucking dollars? How much is a real one worth, then? I guess I should fix the tape transport in my old one even if it's useless to me.
>>12329080You can easily find a CRT if you look hard enough.
Watching retro films is not the same as playing retro games. There is absolutely no reason you would want to use CRTs or shitty outdated formats like VHS now for viewing movies.Films are something that benefit significantly from higher resolutions and screen sizes and you are seriously butchering any movie if you are watching it in any format worse than Blu Ray quality
>>12329102lots of films simply aren't on bluray.many films on bluray have been altered from the original release in some annoying or even detrimental way.you really have to read reviews for each individual release in each individual market.not to mention early digital media that was only mastered in broadcast quality to begin with, so getting in on bluray would require a bunch of artificial upscaling.
>>12328942For a second I thought it was some sort of "Herro Ferrow American! We are happy young white couple make good American product!" scam, but it seems like the real deal.>>12328990Has the nostalgia wave hit shitty early 2000s LCDs yet?
>>12329156thankfully no. the checkmate is a CRT substitute for retro computers.
>>12329156the 4:3 aspect those had was nice for dual monitor work desu, spent a lot of time back in the day in the computer lab with that setup.
>>12329156I have a new old stock 2000s-era Sharp 15khz LCD video monitor and it's pretty rad desu.
>>12328990Making them 5:4 instead of 4:3 is damn stupid, it's worthless to anyone that doesn't play eurojank.
>>12327995Just got this pc case. Feels good man.
>>12327632>:o
>>12327997>The original cut of The Wizard of Oz-lost for decades; some footage persists in the trailerIs that the one where one of the midges hangs themself?
can't wait for palmer luckey's quantum way tubes to steamroll this faggy poser shit and make trannies seethe
>>12327997if you're going to use ChatGPT, at least delete the ones that clearly don't fit the criteria like Clue
>>12325503This is a paid shill thread.He already made a thread on /tv/>>>/tv/217459793
>>12329080>Are shitbox camper TVs really so hard to come by nowthey tended to be made with low quality parts so finding one with a working VCR is actually a little difficult now
>>12325620kill yourself