This whole sub series was a mistake. hated what they did with the story after X. hated the redesign of Zero. the gameplay suffered from the screen crunch of the GBA. Having the cyber elves and punishing your score for using them, stupid. The ranking system in the later games, requiring a whole replay to raise, stupid. Locking certain moves behind this, even dumber. The only saving grace is the gameplay in certain spots can be fun. but it's below Classic and the Best X games easily.
Counterargument: Ciel
>hated what they did with the story after X. that's because you're a retard.>hated the redesign of Zero. art is subjective. it's fine that you have shit taste.>the gameplay suffered from the screen crunch of the GBA.how so? it played just fine to me. they designed things very well so the smaller visible area wasn't an issue for navigation.>Having the cyber elves and punishing your score for using them, stupid.just use them when you're not in a mission, retard. "oh but the ones that just affect the current mission!" those are the piss baby mode ones that are only meant to be used at the end to unlock jackson.>The ranking system in the later games, are fun.>requiring a whole replay to raise, stupid.you can just not save and replay the evel after you git fucking gud.> Locking certain moves behind this, even dumber.completely optional and a reward for being skilled. are you the kind of cheevo hunting faggot that needs to 100% everything and having do redo things is unfair? grow up.>The only saving grace is the gameplay in certain spots can be fun. but it's below Classic and the Best X games easily.they're consistently more fun than half of the classic series, and the only good x games are 1, 4, and 5.
>>12340453>This whole sub series was a mistake. hated what they did with the story after X.It's unironically the best they have done with the series after X5
Your post is a crock of putrid shit with one singular good point (screen/sprite size) that was imposed by GBA limitations.How does it feel to contribute less than nohing? This post, which merely calls you pathetic, has more value than yours.
>>12340453>hated the redesign of ZeroI used to hate it, but it grew on me after a while.>the gameplay suffered from the screen crunch of the GBANah, the only area it was annoying in was the factory in MMZ1, the rest of the game is fine.>ranking system>locking certain moves behind thisI never cared about that shit. I also saw absolutely no point in using any of the cyber elves for a mission.MMZ is a fun series, the challenge is perfect.If you don't like MMZ I wouldn't recommend playing anything at all made by Inti Creates.
>>12340453>Having the cyber elves and punishing your score for using them, stupid.Why do people care so much about this? Just play however you want the first time and go for score the second time around if you want a harder challenge.
Wait, someone actually liked the story in the X series?It has always been ass and never should have been a thing.
>>12341163For the same reason zoomers lose their shit over 'missables'They dont enjoy games, dont want to improve at them, and certainly dont want to 'play' one more than once.
>>12340453Why did they give X a dash and a gun? Why would I want to go fast when my goal is to stay away and shoot? MMZ is better because they understand the saber works better for this.
>>12341295X story sucks but has always been secondary. It has been made clear since X1 that this is not why you play the games.Zero story is not particularly advanced, but much better and has real character writing at times.In simple terms, though obviously everyone can play the games, going by comprehension and seriousness: classic is for kids, X is for teens, and zero is for adults.
>>12340491>>12340453As someone who never played these games all I can say is, the diaper looks retarded as fuck
>>12341416it is. they expect us to think this is the same character
>>12340453They're the best games in this bitch of a franchise and the only tragedy was that they weren't made originally for console
>>12340991>the best they have done with the series after X5That's a bar so low even the worst dumpster fire of a game imaginable would succeed.
>>12341421This is just a thing in mecha media, japan treats redesigns as a narrative conceit rather than some in-universe detail
>>12340453I used to love the Zero games back in the day, because I was an easily impressed teenager, but they're objectively full of bad design choices, like having to grind weapon exp in Z1/2 just to have fucking charged attacks on your weapons (yes, plural, not just the sword), the baseline ability in any other Mega Man game.And yes, all the cyber elf/ranking autism was really out of place. Again, no other MM game does this. It's just an Inti thing. And their own Gunvolt series (which is basically a spiritual successor to MMZ) is full of that garbage too.That said though, Zero 3 and ZX are great games that everyone should play. And you've no excuse, they're right there on Steam and every other modern platform.
>>12340453diaper
>>12340453The save structure, obnoxious story, and weakness system are all pretty shit, but the actual gameplay, weapons, level designs, and bossfights are far and away some of the best of any Mega Man game, right up there with MMX1, so it gets a pass. It really does feel like for every one thing that Capcom does right with Mega Man, they do some stupid bullshit to offset it
>>12341460Even Mega Man X series has obnoxious hidden powerups that are basically necessary if you don't want to be massively underpowered (also layered behind *other* hidden bullshit powerups), the trial and error boss order with tons of pointless subweapons, dash on double d-pad press despite having a dedicated button, and obnoxious energy/sub-tank farming.You really can't win with Mega Man, they have to stick stupid bullshit into every game. The OG Mega Man on NES is my favorite for that exact reason.
>>12342660specialist
>>12340470Rejected.
>>12340453From the outside, Zero looks like a tonal and mechanical detour built around GBA constraints, not a clean continuation. I'm gonna say you didn't get filtered but gave it a good chance and I might just bother with the series to see just how lackluster it really is. Thanks OP
>>12346779Retard
>>12342660I don't get why people say this about MMZ Zero. Looks like less of a diaper than original Zero's pelvis thing.
>>12348003It's probably because it looks soft and pliable. Maybe it's supposed to be some kind of material like the Plasteel from Star Wars, what Stormtrooper armor is made out of (literally just malleable plastic that's as hard as steel, which is worldbuilding bullshit to explain the molded plastic costumes) but it looks softer than that and kinda squishy.
>>12348529uhhhhhhthere I can see itbut sometimes the art looks more like a thong
It's a cartoon robot
Filtered as fuck.
>>12348583chicks love cartoon robots
>>12340453>punishing your score for using themplaying mega man as a score attack game is a mistake >_>
>>12340470ZXC got cancelled
>>12341460>SteamNot retro.
>>12350315chicks love chicks who love cartoon robots
>>12340470FPBP
>>12348583>>12350315No it doesn’t, moron
These games suffer from the GBA's screen crunch and from being made by Inti Creates. These people can't design a good game if their life depended on it and are only carried by superb pixel art and weeb appeal.>You're not as good as a japanese TAS Speedrunner? Guess you'll get locked out of content!>Fair challenge? Nah, avoid these spikes out of the screen, good luck with your clairvoyance skills!>Final bosses that are supposed to test your knowledge and skill? Nah, put some pitfalls there and the boss will just push you there.For some reason people think these are this super hardcore games and are amazingly proud of getting good at them despite their shitty design. People mistake putting up with shit design with actually being something worth bragging about.
These games rank system is retarded as fuck. If you think that having to memorize not just a stage but THE WHOLE FUCKING GAME to get a perfect no damage playthrough just to not miss move you must be trolling or seeking an internet fight due to a lack of attention at home.There's no way a sane human being can think this is an ok thing.I mean these are fine games, I can recognize the great pixel art and good music (despite the shit level design) but the FOMO the rank system creates is stupid.>oops you got hit by spikes you couldn't possibly see coming due to screen crunch, you better reset the whole thing to keep your rank
>>12352207>game gives you a better rank if you make less mistakesYes, that's how rank systems usually work.
>>12352207the attacks you earn for getting b rank are completely optional and only a couple of them are even good. and again, you only need a fucking b rank to get them. just stop being a pussy about "muh missables" and play the fucking game to have fun.
>>12352412I'm not saying ranks shouldn't reward mediocre gameplay, I'm saying the penalty should be less harsh considering the shitty design and how the rank doesn't work how ranks usually work.If each stage was ranked separately and you could retry it it would be fine (like literally every other game ever with ranks) but instead you only get one shot PER RUN, there's just one rank through the whole run and if you fuck up (usually thanks to the usual Inti Creates bullshit like bosses pulling literal "pocket sand" moves) you can't make your rank go up again.Deep down I think yuo knew what I meant but just wanted an internet fight.
>>12352431>shouldn'tI mean "should", I'm sleepy.
>>12352431You can reload your save or get a game over and try the stage again, it's not one shot per run.
>i got filtered: the threadbetter luck next time, bro.
>>12352175Yes it does >:o
>>12340470This anon get it.
Bump
>>12340453It's gayFemboy designs=gayRPG elements=gay
>>12340470Index argument: Iris
>>12354597Counterpoint:Best gameplay in the series=chadBest girl in the series (Leviathan)=hetchadIt's bi-chad
>>12352976>>12352972Hello, there
>>12341421Anon, I…https://www.twitter.com/sa1999_/status/1784818157070569699
>>12348545No Z arms cannon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZhx_ueT4vU
>>12350505CAPCOM can’t do it on 3ds?
>>12356424Nope
>>12340453They’re among the best Mega Man games. They’ve always been unpopular though for being NES-tier difficulty in the 2000’s and continue to filter new players to this day. They were built with a clear vision and passion - thrilling high-octane assaults where you blitz through each level and demolish bosses with combos. You are meant to replay it and sink your teeth into the depth it offers. They were not made for modern players, whose dopamine centers and attention spans are completely fried.
>>12356976More like "Won't"
>>12357509>>12359254Bass: Darn…Zero: Damn…
>>12352458Wish X5 included Iris another
