Why did Hentai games vanish on consoles after 5th gen? The Saturn had some of them but after that, H-games became PC exclusives with consoles only getting lewd content at most
Because Sega lostAs for a less shitposty take, I suppose that after the success of the Playstation, everyone in the industry wanted to become respected akin to other industries and started to stamp out on undesirable/low-status titles in an attempt of becoming Hollywood 2: Electric Boogaloo. Suddenly Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft became less lax and started to have more of a say on what you could and could not release on their platforms. That and also increasing budget requirements for the newer generation, so PC being a decentralized platform became the defacto choice for pervs
>>12343603Is there feet/soles in this?
>>12343603Reminder if you used save states to see them naked, you didn't beat the game
jackie chan on the right
>>12343603I'm guessing it's because consoles were becoming more and more mainstream? Someone please think of the children
>>12343603Switch 1 isn’t retro
I remember seeing covers of some PS2 and even PSP games that featured gravure idols, did those not have any nudity?
>>12343725I don't think so. Gravures usually have their most risky pics being the models maybe laying on a sofa with their bras undone, showing you only their backs
>>12343654The game cheats. If it sees your winning too fast it’ll make you lose
>>12343603Right has the evil mastermind smile
Rating systems started actually getting enforced on consoles in Japan, and perverts moved onto masturbating at their computers. That's it, that's the reason.
>>12343654Remember if you visit porn sites you didn't beat the game of life
>>12343603They're still being made, but if it's on a console it's already going to be censored
>>12343614If i said yes would you believe me?
Did any of these console hentai games actually have explicit nudity?>>12343614Patrician taste
>>12343603psp got a bunch of eroge vns and stuff unofficially via dvds.https://www.suruga-ya.jp/search?category=307&search_word=UMD&adult_s=3https://www.nairu.jp/disc/?word=%EF%BC%B5%EF%BC%AD%EF%BC%A4%E3%80%80%EF%BC%B6%EF%BD%89%EF%BD%84%EF%BD%85%EF%BD%8F&used=&sort=%E6%96%B0%E7%9D%80%E9%A0%86&num=15&btnSearch=true&actor=t does suck thoguh i was looking into lewd saturn stuff a bit back. i wonder if sega was still around as a console maker if theyd still have lewd things on their platform. they did that gravure super monkey ball release for the psvita https://watchusplaygames.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/you-got-softcore-porn-in-my-super-monkey-ball-yay-a-ps-vita-story/
>>12343603Right chick is my favorite by far and the only one I even watch for. She's so sexy. I wonder what her milf ass looks like these days. I'd hit her up.
>>12343603Isn't because the rating board cero got created? I remember those Saturn games were self regulating with the red labels.After cero even Sakurai was raging at the ridiculous requests he was getting because of the 3D viewer in Smash BrosBy the way there is a full playthrough of this on archive.orghttps://archive.org/details/SaturnLongplay136TheYakyuuKenSpecial
>>12346987>CEROI'll never forgive them for effectively banning panty shots from video games.
>>12343614yes, otherwise they'd not be able to walk
>>12347016Imagine what we could've had.
I know Sega banned adult games on the Saturn partway through the console's life cycle (some sources say in 1997, other say in 1998). Does anyone know why? What caused SEGA to get cold feet? CERO is the reason adult games stopped being on consoles as a whole, but that didn't go into effect until 2002.
>>12343614Get a better fetish.
Was this stuff liscenced tho? I don't know how that worked. Going through rom sets, I'd always see these little porno games like strip tetris or cum mahjong or whatever; I guess I'd always assumed that those appeared on the market as bootlegs, like Bible Action Fun on the NES. Was Sega or NEC or Sony, whoever, giving these things the greenlight to appear on their console? It had tk
>>12347428The ones on the Saturn are licensed. The ones on most other consoles are unlicensed.
>>12343614Haven't played it, but considering it's like strip poker (minus the poker part) I think so, I mean they have to take off their shoes and socks
>>12347324By then the n64 and playstation were firmly in the market and they didn't peddle pornography. That made the saturn into the designated porn machine. It's one thing if you're a video game platform with the occasional adult product. It's another when it becomes your specialty in the market.
>>12347439>officially licensed porn on your consoleI see, so that's why the Saturn was SEGA's best selling console in Japan... Well played, SEGA.
>>12347476>designated porn machineWell, they though about it. From the Saturn's Japanese Wikipedia article:>ピンクサターン(企画中止)>セガサターン用ソフトには所謂「18禁」や「X指定」といった年齢制限のあるゲームが多く発売された。そのため、通常のセガサターン機では反映されない映像を再生できる成人用ハードとして企画された。ハードカラーはピンク色。これはピンクチラシなどのように性的な物にピンク色のイメージがあったため。1998年ごろにゲーム情報誌『ゲームラボ』に写真付きで掲載されたことがあるが、後に社会的に問題があるということで中止され、頓挫。企画自体が無かったことにされた。translated:>Pink Saturn (Cancelled Project)>Many games with age restrictions, such as those rated "18+" or "X-rated," were released for the Sega Saturn. Therefore, a separate adult-oriented console was planned that could display video content that wouldn't be shown on a regular Sega Saturn. The console's color was pink, as pink was associated with sexually suggestive material, similar to pink flyers used for adult services. It was featured with a photo in the game magazine "Game Lab" around 1998, but the project was later canceled due to social concerns and ultimately abandoned. The project itself was effectively erased from existence.There's no citation specifying which issue of "Game Lab" this was announced in, I can't find scans of any 1998 issues, nor can I find any other mention of this on the internet other than a page that's clearly parroting the Wikipedia article, so I have no idea how true this is.
>>12343603>Ctrl+F>"Intern-"0 results foundJesus Christ dudes. Console games vanishes as home internet exploded in popularity and use. People would fap at their computer instead doing it in their living rooms
>>12347484Wtf this is incredible This feels like bullshit but I'm definitely interested. What if a new video game urban legend is about to be born?!Who can we ask? Surely theres a sega historian or two we can consult. Some discord server?!Prediction - whoever does know will be a woman with an anime maid catgirl avatar, and will be active in the emulation, sonic, Thomas the tank engine and leninism
>>12343721that's what japs do while playing their porn games
>>12347570They will also be trans and support Russia while calling other people trannies
>>12347527You'd think this was obvious but the internet hosted flash hentai games so if anything the format changed.
>>12350201Can't argue that.
>>12343603Japan strengthened child porn policies around 1997 or so and Japanese publishers became spooked about real life porn in games (like the thing you posted the cover art for). The Guy Game on PS2 with the barely-underage topless model in 2004 was the nail's coffin, which is why things like that western dating sim couldn't even be released on Steam or Nintendo and why the platform asked the developer for personal documents of the involved actresses before giving them the finger.
>>12351416The general timeline is something like this:1981 - JP PC market is a free for all, Enix even released some lolita softcore porn game, and until the mid-1990s PC publishers were pressuring developers to include porn scenes even where it doesn't make sense, like a Fushigi no Umi Nadia game1986 - Nintendo is trying to nurture its Famicom success in Japan and on press saying that allowing porn would make devs take the easy/cheaper/faster way out to make appealing games (via porn) and no other dev would bother developing good non-porn games, degrading the console prestige. Some games had fullscreen nudity (Magical Taruruto, Momotarou Densetsu) and even Nintendo first party games had collecting panties until the late 1990s. Asian bootleg porn games appeared and they sued shops selling them and lobbied for stricter copyright laws circa 19901992 - JP Arcade market is a free for all with lots of strip mahjong games (Capcom even tried localizing one as a poker game and released them under an alias). NEC PC Engine was very lenient but not free for all (with Alfa System testing limits with Tengai Makyou II and Linda Cube) and approved for release a strip mahjong console port (with a hotkey to display a fake jrpg screen, and by the same team as Street Fighter II) but that caused too much pressure for NEC, so they rejected reprints and asked Capcom (under an alias) to make a censored version. Police started complaining about public order in arcades and JAMA (association of Arcade publishers in Japan) imposed some content restrictions for games to be allowed on arcade halls, so these died out slowly in Japan, then in Europe later. Some of these strip mahjong games continued to be made as censored console ports or tame takes on SNES happened.1994 - Nintendo refused to even deal with softcore publishers (Elf), but allowed heavily censored ports by Banpresto. NEC foolishly restricted non-anime/3D esque games for brand reasons leading to their downfall
>>123514161994 - Sony had something of their own called the Sony standard, which is to say their censorship guidelines (mainly no sexual themes, no damage to the brand). Nintendo NCL used to be the strictest but then Sony's guidelines became some of the strictest out there in the market, probably in part due to overseas influence (as some heavy American investments started pouring in Japan. one of the Pokemon anime animators said it came with creative influences too)Nintendo licensed the Nintendo 64 hardware to SETA and allowed them to do softcore porn on it, but this isn't well known because they renamed the hardware.Sega had that genius idea to get three different custom rating labels for Sega consoles depending on whether it's all ages, adult only, or extra perverted adult only I guess which clarified where their priorities lied. Dokyuysei 2 and Yu-No were among these efforts, but further ones after 1997 under development were cancelled over pressure by Sega. As for third parties the floodgates were opened leading to all sorts of barely censored porn games and ports from the PC-98 (then still a free-for-all, only heeding general morality laws that 1mm censor bars is enough, "an attempt was made")Then some scandal happened in the United Nations and laws banning production and possession of child porn were drafted and passed around 1999. Sega was horrified because some of its third parties had real life softcore porn with real actresses that looked suspiciously young and uncomfortable, so they wanted to get ahead. These would be the laws that caused the Runouri Kenshin mangaka to be caught pants down with possession of said material.By then Konami was marketing TokiMemo as a clean (not entirely...) dating sim unlike filthy PC games. They ruthlessly cracked on fan erotica. It enjoyed success and devs were tempted.
>>12351416In the meantime it would be foolish to say that the Western-side shenanigans didn't cause some pressure on Japanese devs, especially as far as Nintendo is concerned.2003 - Sega is out of the console market. Even with their stricter post-1997 moderation, DreamCast ports of PC visual novels were still less censored than on PS2. Microsoft emerged as a new challenger and was eager to get more ground on Japan, and they courted third parties as well but some rug pulls for Gal Gun and some Mages visual novels on the X360 directly citing American HQ last time vetoes quickly soured their image and reliability with JP publishers, hence why they flocked to the Vita and why Sony was even loosening things in the first place, undoing whatever positive word of mouth M$ had with allowing vertical shooters when Sony would ban them on the PS3 even in Japan (not just US like PS2) because they're too 2D/don't take advantage of the console features like widescreen.Nintendo is... kind of toxic, and JP devs barely supported it after the PS1 gen messes (like insulting JRPG devs and players, devs need to git gud to manage the N64 power, 64DD is ready but we'll release it when we feel like it, sucker devs - it's not like we didn't do it for Virtual Boy too, better enjoy the pain of ordering expensive N64/SFC carts) and they tried to compensate, so GC had less censorship in the West, and approved some weird games on DS about rubbing loli chests, but they reverted. CERO is established and heavily restricts gore and onscreen sexual acts and nudity, so devs had to adapt to barely get under the unmarketable CERO Z rating that not even Capcom could make use of for a flagship series.2009 - An Idolmasters PSP game has a hot coffee incident involving lolis & a debug menu left by mistake ingame. CERO was spooked, and now requests to be shown 3D models in all angles even unseen content, and for restricted camera. They kept getting stricter (like what led to Tharja's cut in Smash 3DS)
I hate how gay the world has become
>>123514162013 - Nintendo was feeling adventurous by releasing Dead or Alive Dimensions on 3DS with uncensored translations for the heroine ages, and one of them was underage. The game is banned in many European countries, lots of headlines about child porn laws and Nintendo... and then the Flipnote Studio 3DS debacle happens, when their chat app that accepts user submitted images is exploited by pedos to groom children and convince them to send them dick pics. Nintendo is raided by the police and forced to cooperate in a years long investigation, the app is immediately pulled and replaced with a limited one, but the damage is immense.Meanwhile Sony has an internal power struggle and the Japanese branch and all associated ventures have ressources pulled and diverted and projects cancelled, the Westerners won, a bunch of first party games were now sent to PS4 (Gravity Rush) or phones or even fucking 3DS despite promises in 2015 about upcoming first party support in Japan, and as third party support dried down softcore porn dominated, and some publishers of dungeon crawlers even pandered hard to that.Then the rug pull with the Omega Labyrinth Z localization happened and Sony wouldn't even consider CERO a credible org anymore, instead doing their own content reviews, and giving passes to big publishers with established DEI teams which incensivitized others to follow suit, alongside the societal changes us-funded media and SNS were pushing hard in Japan. Once embedded in the creative process end, or directly pressured by the banks or politicians who constantly said "we're fighting in Ukraine for western values like LGBTQ+" and embassies using the rainbow flag as their de facto flag it wasn't hard to conclude that the dei/metoo was "political demands", so they reacted accordingly. (why dq3r dev uses the term "illegal" for non-pc)Nintendo tried not to be Sony (mainly the hostility to Japanese devs) but then payment processors and leadership changes reverted that.
>>12343603Didn't the 3D0 have porn games too?
>>12351493>Sega had that genius idea to get three different custom rating labels for Sega consoles depending on whether it's all ages, adult only, or extra perverted adult only I guess which clarified where their priorities lied. Dokyuysei 2 and Yu-No were among these efforts, but further ones after 1997 under development were cancelled over pressure by Sega.To clarify a little, Saturn had "all ages" (green label), "recommended for 18 and over" (yellow label), and "adults only/x-rated" (red label).The red label is the one that was discontinued in '96 (last two red label games came out in September '96). Doukyuusei 2 and YU-NO were released with the yellow label, both in '97. Yellow label games continued to come out up until the end of the Saturn's lifetime. The majority of PC-98 eroge ported to Saturn were yellow label.(Conveniently, the Japanese wikipedia list of Saturn games marks yellow (18歳以上推奨) and red (X指定(18歳未満禁止)) label games:https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/セガサターンのゲームタイトル一覧 )
>>12351585>picSpeaking of (potential) hot coffee incidents, the Saturn disc for that game contains all of the original PC-98 graphics, seemingly batch-converted to anamorphic Saturn resolutionThe Saturn version doesn't display the most explicit images but the devs didn't delete them from the data
>>12351493>Sony's guidelines became some of the strictest out there in the marketlike how Linda Cubed is censored in the PS port (not even for sex, it was for cannibalism or something) and they had to make that "Complete" version for Saturn later.Or pic related, Yukari's wet shirt scene in Tokimeki Memorial. Top is the original PC Engine version, middle is the censored PS version, bottom is the Saturn version where they moved her hand out of the way
>>12351691A lot of whatever happened to Linda Cube PS1 was self-censorship. The original game (PCE) was incredibly weird as is, and among the animal races in the game (which you can fight, hunt, sell organs, stuff in a spaceship and force to mate, or even eat) there's "humans". The story really goes places, but maybe they decided that was too far. The redesigns are part of that.Speaking of cannibalism there's Tengai Makyou II by much of the same team that has some wild moments like unaware villagers wanting to eat their shapeshifted pig neighbors. Or see-through clothes that show nipples. That one had a lot of changes, mainly CERO-motivated, but maybe because of its cultural impact they allowed it on the PCE Mini with a +17 rating and strict region locking mostly unaltered.>TokiMemo smutThat one's interesting. The Super Famicom port is one of the most censored ones (intense fog in the bath scene, and most pervy scenes became text only or size reduction candidates, but the Game Boy Color port was actually less censored than the PS1 version (kind of how DQ3 on the GBC is probably the least censored English release)Konami's Policenauts too had big cuts on the PS1 for jiggly boobs and they wanted to take it further for the PS Classic release but Hideo went ballistic. Not that it's the ideal way for English fan patch players because the PS1 translation is less censored (men in dresses related)
>>12351676I doubt Sega cared about how Saturn discs were used outside of their hardware (Saturn SoTN had the uncut Succubus art as a PC file) and these were inaccessible ingame (unless they left a hidden menu to view them) but Sony went paranoid about that for PS2 and had devs put their files in wrappers and burn discs in ways that make it harder to load on PC (lots of incidents on PS1, like a South Park episode) and Nintendo is obsessed with cleaning up their first party games recently alongside its effort to reduce any visibility of the localization/DEI team's shenanigans (the dub for the censored content in Fire Emblem Fates was still in the files and that led to an entire fork of a fan patch meant to replace the official version, some employees blabbed too much in interviews or to tumblr users who want it censored, and NoA kind of gave up even localizing the DLCs after the debacle)YU-NO PC-98 has a weird modern official port for Vita with the retro graphics redrawn, porn included for dry humping enjoyers with questionable wardrobe sense. I don't know who it's for, but it exists. On the side of that modernized monstrosity.
>>12351676>>12352337Censored files making it to the files is nothing new.Trails in the Sky 3 and its child abuse memory door has the files still in the direct PSP port, and the Evo port has them with remastered graphics, which they included as limited edition bonuses in printed format. Not only the Sony-rejected version, but the second Falcom-rejected version too (which they/Xseed went as far to translate for anyone to play it with mods on PC)Grezzo remastered the rejected Fire Temple soundtrack for OoT 3DS.The lines that Sony requested their removal in Persona 5 are still in the files, skipped, but dubbed (not all of it, the phone pic the police shows to Jocker in the bad ending when the pimp finally gets Makoto existed in the protos and it's clear why it was cut) and there's even more older takes of scenes with more police torture and substance abuse still in the files, only skippedI would not call them hot coffee grade incidents. The Idolmasters Shiny Festa scandal was of franchise-ending proportions: the series concept itself is on thin ice, and then screenshots float of a developer-endorsed menu that allows the player to twist the puppet a skimpily clad grade schooler idol in all sorts of degrading and sexual positions and as if it wasn't bad enough it had multiple models for some multiplayer action. Rated E for Everyone no less. So you'd have members of the public yelling at the CERO that they're not doing their job, much like what happened with European PEGI after they rated in 2012 "We Sex" (originally Wii Sex but Nintendo objected, though they let them release it) as +12 because it's just "kinky foreplay if you use your imagination really hard" but people were having none of it, so the rating board became much stricter or had to give certain crazy voices more power to change around things. "All cards are gambling" and "that cloth wrinkle under the dress is +18 content" crazy.
>>12351560I assume so
>>12352341NTA, but I didn't know any of this. Thank you for the info, Anon.
>>12351560No shit
