DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12334176Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source PortsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like gentlemen ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0 == GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUPortaDOOM:https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releasesHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAMIDI COLLECTIONShttps://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.ziphttps://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom+thread"/type/op/OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSUS West: https://clovr.xyz/CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===Duke It Out in /vr/Game : DN3D | Deadline : March 1st 2026 (extended)Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zipRules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634=== CURRENT RELEASES ===SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween ProjectGame : Doom 2 | MBF21RC2: https://files.catbox.moe/bdpde1.zipDeep /vr/ied PotatoGame : Doom 2 | MBF21RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/3fml1f.zipNow on iDGames!https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=21835=== NEWS ===[01-26] Zandronum edition of Angelic Aviary releasedhttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1265375#p1265375[01-23] Qrucible, new compiler for Quakehttps://getqrucible.com/[01-23] Smooth Doom for Doom 1 (pure vanilla dehacked)https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156974-smooth-doom-vanilla-for-doom-1/[01-19] Annie Episode 2 releasedhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156924-annie-episode-2-released/[01-18] Hexen: Deathkings midipack releasedhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/116499[01-16] Call of the Void 3.0 has been released for Quake 2, featuring 9 new mapshttps://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-ii-call-of-the-void/downloads/call-of-the-void-version-30zip[01-13] Pvt Stone updated with a new weapon, more reload options, and morehttps://skelegant.itch.io/pvt-stone/devlog/1315753/update-to-v155-qol-extra-polish[01-13] Bloodfire, a holiday-themed map pack, releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/bloodfire/downloads/bloodfire[01-03] Quake Brutalist Jam 3 releasedhttps://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/quake-brutalist-jam-iii.549/[12-30] Divine Twilight Chapter 1 updated with a new custom-made soundtrackhttps://simplici7y.com/items/divine-twilight-chapter-1/[12-25] Storm over Thyrion released, an Hexen 2 campaign, with 15 new maps, weapons and enemieshttps://www.moddb.com/mods/storm-over-thyrion/downloads=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST
>>12335834>qbj3 bad>>12349369>fun qbj3Also>duke hardhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-hard/images/duke-hard-poster1#imagebox
>>12349369QBJsisters... Wordcloud is laughing at us...
>>12349369Thanks wordchud
I can't move to new thread without my buddy Superfly
You guys interested in wtitefaggotry? I kinda wanna write some Quake story one day
>>12349537Do what you want mate but be aware you will be laughed at if it's gay
>>12349368Why is doomguy the only one who looks like a completely different person?
>>12349537Yeah sure just don't make it political>>12349558Yeah also don't make it gay
>>12349360Sexual Dimorphism In Demons
>>12349558It won't be gay, but if it was, I'd make Aniki proud>>12349562>Quake>politicsI really don't know how these fit honestly, i'm also wildly stupid and hate politics
I've been messing around with the newest Doom Incarnate the last few days and just found out Rayne can feed on Brutal Doom's corpse decorations which is kinda gross but also cool.
>>12349562>don't make it politicaluhm chud, doom was always about the environment
>>12349561Look at the armour, that's not doomguy, it's zoomguy.Also I thought caleb was testament before opening the image.
>>12349569Tell me more.
>>12349537I'd love more stuff written like Warpspasm.https://www.quaddicted.com/db/v2/maps/fbcd19b85e2c1942f326c58b7c2496c88cce174a7643a430ae20b6746b5b78e6
>>12349585I didn't mean literally gay, well I did but I also meant figuratively gay. Perhaps I should have said you'll be laughed at if it's cringe, lame, dorky, dweeby, etc.
>>12349646I'm incapable of doing MCU shit anon, I can do it>>12349630Gotta read that one's readme
>>12349369>kindguy
It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!Come play some SRB2Kart!How to join (The short and easy way):Download the All-in-one repack: https://mega.nz/file/3dUUWTbR#Ir3l9U2JAKSdT84wQwbKsgQ1Go39xdCCznpF2ChCgmcExtract it to its own folder (NOT the desktop or program files)Run "SRB2Kart-Neptune (Connect to vrkart).bat" and wait for any missing files to download in-gameDO NOT run "srb2kart.exe" and expect to be able to join the server.If you don't have a 64-bit machine/OS for whatever reason: Copy the contents of the 32-bit folder into the main folderHow to join (The longer and harder way):Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exeGet the custom client we use: https://codeberg.org/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.5.1Get the mods either automatically in-game or at: https://macgu.fun/repo/srb2kart/Connect to macgu.fun (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOWWe also have a Mumble server!Address: 51.161.34.159Port: defaultPassword: endoom>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?No.Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)
>>12349628>cacodemonGiant flying tomato>female cacodemonCute anthropoid cyclops girl>How did this species evolve?We may never know.
I replaced my ting1.wav with a supersonic bullet crack so when I get sniped at in MegaTF and CustomTF it's more realistic and scary
>>12349613> talking about quake> no this is definitely about doom trust mekek
>>12349656>Gotta read that one's readmeIt's one of those classic html readmes, too.The style is brutal, also pretty consistent in matching the Lovecraft themes with the Quake setting. Very imaginative.
Is there a Doom mod that lets you manually raise and lower elevators like in the Build Engine games? Is it even possible?
>>12349369>retro dick>bonus evil>gzdoom complaints
>>12349875I don't know how the Build Engine ones work but Boom compatibility has elevator specials that move floor and ceiling in tandem.
>>12349613yeah and doom eternal is about how illegal immigration & identity politics are destroying our world.
>>12349897lol is that real?
>>12349613>>12349897we're only 30 posts in, can you wait til around the 400+ mark before acting like blithering retards?
>>12349916Can you learn to have a sense of humour within 400 posts?
>>12349897>the demon community?!
>>12349914yes. there was a huge shitfit from leftys who felt they were being made fun of that ultimately didn't amount to anything as not only are the jokes are still in the game but they're doubled down on since everyone in the UAC uses this terminology.
Ranger stood over the dead fiend, with nails churning above him. His thunderbolt was spent, his bloodied arm throbbing with pain. All he had left was 10 HP and a bag full of rockets. He quivered with determination. "None of this would have happened," he panted, "if only the government hadn't funded the slipgate program!". He used the column in the lift for support. "We really should stop directing taxes towards the military-industrial complex, and instead use it to fund women's shelters!"Little did he know, a zombie had teleported in right behind the column, and had heard him. "Think of the applicatioooons...!" it said. He was startled. "We could sooolve logiiistiiics" it continued. But the ranger was having none of it. He simply lobbed a grenade to the offending monster.But while he was distracted, the wall behind him was opening - this was it. A huge chunk of the wall, caving in. As he turned around to see what it was, he saw them: two vores. "We're gay!", they said, "We won't let you eat our runic cake! We had to sue for them to bake it for us!". He had his rocket launcher at the ready. "Consider this..." he said, while putting on some sunglasses, "...a redistribution" and he bombed them while ducking in and out of cover. His rockets had the trans-gay-black-intersexual flag painted on it."Oh, noo!" they said, "you're doing a hecking Palestine!"This was crucial... at this moment... everything he believed in... his ability to derive value to the shareholders... his necesity to do so in a PR-approved manner... but this couldn't be... there had to be a way for the analogy to not hold... it couldn't be..."Oh, no, have I been the evil guy all along?" he said."Yesss, join us!""NO!" he said, and delivered the final blow. "I won't accept this!" and the vores were dead. "Trans rights are human rights!" they said, while they died. Ranger took the rune. There were two more to go, but would he get them in time before Russia invaded the eldritch dimension?
>Annie Ep 1 donePretty good. Level design reminded me a lot of Q2.Episode 2 is having a promising start so far.
>>12350014When will the jackoffs who made the Quake2Stuff mod will update the mod with Q2R ai and models?
>>12350010>His rockets had the trans-gay-black-intersexual flag painted on it."Oh, noo!" they said, "you're doing a hecking Palestine!"
>>12349360Once again, OP nails the thread promo
>>123497271. Someone did some things with those holes Romero isn't allowed to talk about.2. UAC science gone too far.3. ???
>>12350010kek
>>12349727I don't fuck with gijinka shit, but>those caco mouth sneakerslol'd and 10/10'd
>>12348168>Duke 3D turns 30 tomorrowThat's the Shareware version. The full release is on April 19
>>12350010
Reposting from the previous breadI just got into Quake for the first time, played the original campaign and all official addons, then QBJ1-3. Where do I go from here?
>>12350365Arcane Dimensions
>>12350365Quake Rally.Q:>Why?A:>Vroom Vroom.
>>12349360i made this on rave dj, what do you think?the auto generated title i got from this was "i gun big demons", i think it's a perfect title.https://files.catbox.moe/93za0k.mp3
>>12350387>Boss fight against Duke NukemsHoly kino
Doomguy shot the zombieman who fell down to his death. A zombie dying, is it possible? Then Doomguy dropped trou and penetrated the zombieman's anus with his penis, forcing itvpast the sphincter, and moved rhythmically back and forth until he ejaculated into the zombieman's intestines, rupturing them from the force of the semen. But Doomguy was not finished. As he went to a toilet and roundhouse kicked its basin shattering it and he reached his hand into the shattered toilet that sprayed piss and shit and blood. And he pulled out a shit and ate it and smeared it on his face and body then shrieked and punched a mirror and ran out and howled at an imp and punched its face in and skullfucked it while shouting "die, die" then ripped open its intestines and ate crap after crap in the imp's intestines until Doomguy was full and he shot himself in the head, he could die happy.
>>12350365Arcane Dimensions is a big secondAlkalineViolent Rumble
what is this bullshit
>>12350586Another post about the Quake Jam to get bumblistered over offtopic shit in the hopes to cause a feedback loop to derail the thread?
>>12350587yeah, I do get bumblistered when off-topic shit gets brought up in my quake maps
>>12350613I don't like it either, but I wouldn't bring it to the general.If you step in dog shit when you're taking a walk outside, I really hope you don't go into someone's house and wipe your shoes off on their carpet.
>>12350586greetings from Kazakhstan this jam goes hardI hate trannies so much its unreal
>>12350586Shitseer gay media
>>12350586Does shit like this come up often in Quake mapping? I'm still pretty new to Quake.
>>12350626Every single map after 2010 has some flavor of this, yes. Arcane Dimensions has a huge gay flag easter egg in the start map, you have to find and kill three straight white men hiding in the hub.
>>12350626It's trendy for autists to mutilate their genitals and/or take drugs that fuck up their endocrine systems these days.
>>12350626yesthe quake community is full of these pandering, high strung faggots
>>12350634Maybe I shouldn't play Quake anymore.
>>12350634> makes claim about famous mod> zero screenshots> zero changelog mentions> zero videoskek
>>12350658Maybe I'm the retard but that post reads like an obvious joke.
>>12350656Correct. Only sissies play Quake. Real men play Tek War.>>12350658Clearly you are allied with the shitseer shitsisters. Talk to Sprony, he'll back me up!
>>12349360>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<< Record a UV-Max demo Perdition's Gate map 19 "Closer to Hell" by Jimmy Siebenh (-cl2)Reply to this post with a demo & your time.Wad download and current records:https://dsdarchive.com/wads/perdgate?level=Map+19Example demo in 3:55:https://files.catbox.moe/fljgsc.lmpPrevious challenge winrar, TNT:Xiao map 06 in 1:55: >>12334823There are a few files included in the zip in order to run in dos, but as far as I can tell, sourceports only need PG-RAW.wad. Like most of the Perdition's Gate levels, this one is pretty short and monster dense. For those unaware, this wad was actually sold for money at some point. I think that's why it has some real good texture work for the 90s.
>>12350963OOOooohh you've picked a wad I actually knowCan I just make sure: file size 7008400, date 1996-07-26 ? My copy is named perdgate.wad but I think I might've renamed it.
I like nuclear weapons
>>12350984Not him, but if you need a copy of it, you can borrow it from me.
>>12350986Thanks but I don't want to download it again just to find I've downloaded something I already have.
>>12350365Quake 2
>>12350963>>12350984All right I'm risking it anyway. If it desyncs you've got a different version from me.https://litter.catbox.moe/ye17nd.lmptime: 3:22
>>12350985Just like pearl harbor
I assume this was Lo Wang and Hung Lo.https://youtu.be/xK1HqGHrvEs
>>12350351You like Deus Ex? Why don't you Do Sex? Virgin
>>12350963>>12351019Got a better one, including the comedy mancubus telefrag where it wanders into a teleporter and ends up stuck in a 64x64 booth it's too fat to exist in.https://litter.catbox.moe/sgi0y4.lmptime: 2:58It's so easy to get disoriented and lose sight where you're meant to go next, ruining an otherwise perfectly good run with time-consuming hesitations and missteps. Plus those cacodemons outside the windows are clearly meant as hazards, not to be killed.Have to say, doing this is reminding me why I came to detest traditional demo recording. I'm full of anger and frustration now, after having to fight against my brain which really hates doing the same thing over and over again especially when it feels it was "successful" last time so now this problem is "solved" and it's being forced to waste energy which was what got my ancestors killed.Thanks for listening to my complaints last thread and picking a wad I already knew, though. I just forgot how bloody frustating demo recording is
We should find a random streamer and teach 'em the ways of motherfucking doom
>>12351103Sad to say he passed away in 2020, anon.
>>12351103Why? Become a Doom streamer yourself if you find it important, though mind that the audience for it is kind of limited in the grand scheme of things.
>>12351137Bet.
>>12350881> Clearly you are allied with the shitseer shitsisters(You) get a kek out of me.
>>12350881>>12351149The Shitseer Mafia only has hostages, not "allies."
>>12351172What are they going to do, put a car bomb in our trenchbroom.exes?
>>12350328Then why do we celebrate Doom's anniversary on December 10th?
>>12351194Maybe because Doom shareware release was big enough (not content but impact) to be considered a significant date, while Duke needed a full game even though the rest of the game like x5 worse anyway
>>12351210
>>12350387>This somehow reminds me that I should finally post a request to /WSR/ for an edit of the "Day~to-na, let's go away!" song made exclusively out of edited Ranger's hurt/death sounds intentionally based upon this old silly thing which I was pondering about over the past 4 years at the very least:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXAJEWUE4kU
>>12351194December 10 is when the world first got its proper taste of Doom, I suppose.
>>12349678I kek'd
>>12351194>Then why do we celebrate Doom's anniversary on December 10th?Because we celebrate Doom's anniversary on December 10th.It's a monkey truth. It's true because all the other monkeys believe it is true.Most truths are thus.
>>12351382Doom had its first release on the 10th though, everyone could play the first part.
>>12350365coagulazerstorercontract revokedhoneysomething wicked this way comesthe func map jamsarcane dimensionsseismic venturesspiritworld
>>12350626Not really that I remember. Qbj3 is an outlier in that regard.
>>12349382I love those creative mappacks
>>12351595quintessential troonworld post
>>12351631On the contrary, it seemed to get jannied within like 15 minutes. I clicked on the profile and it was already gone.(It couldn't have been a self-delete, Doomworld doesn't allow you to delete your own posts.)
>>12350626>>12351619Bah, there was that map in the two tone jam too.In general the tranny things are mostly confined to the less quakey maps (iirc that jam was more or less like qbj, as in it didn't have the medieval theming), now that I think about it. Comfybythefire is a transsexual but the maps manage to not shoehorn that shit onto my screen, which I appreciate (albeit I think they can get too big).
>>12351663That looks like one of those awful mood maps that plague the modern Doom scene
>>123509632:28 https://files.catbox.moe/tcjwuk.lmp
>>12351680Aw shiet. RIP, me.
>>12351668My point exactly. Also now that I remember there was a jam centered around "blue" and one of the maps, bm_quasiotter, was like a museum (no monsters). I remember the voiceover by the mapper but I usually play with no sound (listening to podcasts or such in the background) so I completely ignored that (maybe it was a tranny voice).Going back to take this screenshot I saw that the end of the map talks about a whale being his fursona, which might be a joke but given the other message I doubt it.It's fascinating that there is a pattern even in this. What is it with mood maps and these people?
>>12351680>>12351684Actually now i watched it I have no idea how you saved 30 entire secondsExcept maybe luring the baron out the way so you could get rockets from the secret to kill it withMaybe more infighting off screen or something
>>12351697Lol, zoom in on one-armed bunny Hitler in a blue dress in the bottom image. What even is that meant to be??>What is it with mood maps and these people?Something to do with getting your emotions out through art? Channel your self-hating rage into a map, take your anger out on the poor fool who's chosen to play it? I dunno, it's "art"
>>12351697>What is it with mood maps and these people?They don't really like Quake for Quake - at least not beyond the fact that it has become very simple to map for post-Trenchbroom.They're attracted to Quake because it has an established circlejerk of other mentally ill people who will praise their degenerate creations as high forms of art and keep them "safe" from having to see any form of criticism.
>>12351713I mistook the spikes for helicopter blades in the thumbnail
quakebros... i'm not feeling so good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70mZq8bUStwThey released this for Duke Nukem 3D's 30 anniversary
>>12351713Some of my favorite Doom alt art.>>12351719Make a map, feel better :)
>>12351713I like this design because it kinda has the traditional Caco traits conceptionally and still doesn't look traced on the DnD monster.Also it keeps the weird tentacles instead of giving it limbs like most official Caco redesigns.>>12350328I was getting confused why Duke 3D was getting celebrated so soon because I'm used to it being the middle of the year.>>12349537What kind of story?>>12349727I prefer the weapon girls more.>>12351663>>12351697>>12350586These manchildren with no actual life problems (Other than "first world problems") make everything about their fake identities and shallow beliefs they pick up from the internet, replacing meaningful interactions and experiences with online approval from cliques that will backstab them in a few years.They don't even make fun gimmicky maps like "what if the player was as tiny as a rat and walked around in a giant kitchen lol".This is what happens when someone is raised by participation trophies and always being told "you're never wrong"."be gay do crime" niggas when the crime is grooming kids and killing pets cough marisa cough
>>1235174330 YEARS OF THE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME
>>12350586Something you chose to see by not clicking to skip it the moment you worked out what the first line was.
>>12351710I just replayed with sound and forced myself to suffer for ten minutes and dear god I think it might be a high schooler. It says something about pixel art and that shit, too, which explains a little. "Lo-fi graphics" are like a magnet to these people.
>>12351812
>>12351194>Release game on Dec 16>Make it mail order only>Ensuring nobody would be able to get it by Christmas
>>12351828Fuck man I'm so sorry I didn't mean to put you through hell like that.In the end, it's not even a hitler moustache. It's a snout.
>>12351794preach anon. finally, someone said it. map communities went to total shit also partly thanks to the pisscord mentality of these narcissistic tribal brutes.
Why does Doom not have room over room? Is it because of BSP?
>>12351794>>12351860So de_rats in Counter-Strike was hilarious because the map designer thought like the player. Rat-sized, sneaky, chaotic with every corner truly a surprise, and you could play by the ear all the angles available. That is the kind of playful lateral thinking missing from modern map communities of virtually fps game still being played. Now we have political retardation, and other modern trash holding back the player experience as pointed out ITT.
>>12351794Something silly I guess>John Ranger went and killed Shub, Armagon and unfucked the timeline as in canon>Earth still got fucked pretty bad, but got plenty of arcane knowledge and tech from the dimensions John Ranger and the rest of the rangers tore through to stop Shub and friends>some of the monsters (mostly ogres and knights) were enslaved and ally with human forces if only to help them through land they're unfamiliar with>the plot is nothing fancy, just humans exploring and learning more about the worlds they discovered through the slipgates>no multiverse bullshit, Quake 2 isn't part of the continuity, there's like 7 realms and some of them have a bunch of biomes in them>some stuff from Arcane Dimensions shows up because to me that's Quake realized to its fullestStill thinking about the protagonist desu, I think it'd be rad to have a cool and very athletic chick double jumping into a scrag and cleaving it in half with an axeNot aiming for something dark and brooding, at least not all the time since the war's over for good. Think that one Lovecraft story about exploring Venus or something
>>12351889A "Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath" episode for Q1 would be superb. Sounds like it could be a contrast to the usual.
>>12351794>This is what happens when someone is raised by participation trophies and always being told "you're never wrong".Surely that's better than the alternative though? What would a person who'd been raised being told "you're always wrong" be like?
>>12351812Bap bada bap bapbap bap, bap bap
>>12351904>A "Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath" episode for Q1 would be superb. Sounds like it could be a contrast to the usual.You would need to go all out for that, assuming one follows a similar quest to Carter. There's so many types of characters and creatures that he interacts with that aren't just mindless monsters.
>>12351863The map format is essentially flat, and volume and space is 'extruded' out of the level with height values to create the three dimensional world, with values assigned to all the lindefs and the sectors they make up.Players and monsters also cannot intersect on the Y axis, they can't be above or underneath each other, along with monster melee attacks skipping to check for the Y axis also.Heretic adds in that Y axis part, though you would need to write in some kind of support for more flexible map data. ZDoom family ports let you have room over room and other kinds of 3D model stuff, though the implementation is mildly hacky and has some limitations.>>12351906Either extreme is obviously unhealthy. Like having too much water or too much salt, either would kill you, so you must maintain some sort of balance.
>>12351916True. Carter barely talks so not too rough of a start.
>>12351920That's true, the map data is two-dimensional, but so are the maps for Build games and Star Wars Dark Forces. Those games all have room over room. I guess not having a Y axis is the issue, because you would be blocked by monsters in the room below you.
666 minutes of /vr/ when?
>>12351932Those games do add more things to the map data, but also do other nifty trickery.
>>12351935I would like to do Back To Sat/vr/n X.Perhaps we could combine them.No complicated shit, just make a vanilla or limit-removing map in 666 minutes, using the BTSX texture set.
>>12351956Or you could Xaser it up and insist on MBF21 if you want, but I don't want to deal with dehacked crap.
>>12351956In case it happens, what's a good site to set up a timer of sorts?
>>12351948I've tried poking around in level editors for Duke Nukem before, and there are a lot of tricks behind the scenes. Some of the room over room is faked with silent teleporters, like falling down the air vent at the beginning, but there are also a lot of overlapping sectors. In later Build games, such as Blood, it even allows you to render both sectors simultaneously. I know Build doesn't use BSP, but are there other differences in map data?
>>12351964Fuck if I know. I have a computer. It has a clock. It can count in nanoseconds! Shit, technology these days is amazing... anyway, the point is: why would I need a website?
>>12351932I think duke had world portals implemented natively (fuckery with the sectors, you could have any sector be contiguous to any other sector so it'd look like a world portal in-game iirc) so it seems pretty trivial to emulate room over room with that.Doom I don't think it had something like that.
>>12351956Count me in.
30 years of DukeAnd for some reason i ended up finding Douk for consoles Ad on a Beavis and butt head marathon video for the final episodehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXD7ZfsyFqUAlong with stuff that makes me hate this world even more because the late 90's and early 2k's culture and costumes should had stuck for at least 15 years decades
>>12351962>>12351956i'd prefer a vanilla-compatible project
>>12352204So would I, except I refuse to deal with the stupid limits. Do you really want to care about visplanes, drawsegs, vissprites, spechits, intercepts, scrolling walls, number of lumps in the wad... Do you want to be the one to try to explain to an impatient, uncaring, and downright hostile 4chan user, who is accustomed to Zandronum and has never mapped for vanilla or even heard of complevels before, that his map can't have more than 20 linedefs surrounding a sector to which he is trying to apply a raise-to-next-highest-adjacent action... I've been in this situation, I don't want to repeat it, ever...
>>12351794Ok I've been ignoring things long enough or have been out of the loop for like years and everytime i see troon shit i keep seeing this "marisa" character pop up anyone got a time to summarize this shit? I know its more doom than quake related in the community but i want to know
>>12352275Spanish manchild on estrogen who's a perv towards men and little boys alike.
>>12352275Go and read the Doomworld thread on the Farms. (I can't link it here sorry. Last time I tried I got a 2 week ban from all boards because "your post contained banned text".)
>Doom Brutalist Community ProjectOh, no.https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156518
>>12352313>>This community project is NOT about Brutal-DoomA fair disclaimer, to be sure.Might be cool.
>>12352313What's "oh no" about it? Doom has arguably been brutalist since DEU changed its default wall texture from STARTAN3 to GRAY4.
>>12352284Thanks anon
>>12352330>Please also check out Quake community’s Quake Brutalist Jam projects (it's a trilogy as far as I know), which is what this project is inspired by.OH, NO!!!!!!!!
>>12352330There's an anon trying to compensate for his lack of personality by simulating it with seething about community troons.
>>12352361Oh I didn't see that, I only read the title and the date, and thought why is he posting this like it's some new thing when it's over a month old now
>>12352332Start from page 90 something
>>12352367Makes me miss the "why isn't there a Doom mod about thinghere" posts.
>>12352361So what? It's good inspiration for aesthetics, if you want to bring the same aesthetic to Doom. Holy shit, some of fags are little snowflakes that get triggered by anything.
>>12352379>some of fagsMeant some of you fags.
>>12352313i am getting tired of this forced brutalist slop.Also>Shilling Slipseernot playing it either
>>12352379>>12352382I think it's mainly just one guy who's really triggered. He's like S'arias but with Quake stuff instead of Doom stuff.
>>12352313Guy beat me to it, but I'm okay with that. I'm tired of Doomworld and leading a pack of autismo supremes in a community project is the last thing I want to do.
>>12352313You've got to be fucking kidding me.
>>12352385So it's not auster? Kek
>>12350586Who tf is Thatcher?
>>12352439I think that's the guy who made Hocus Pocus TC.
>>12351743>DNF 15th Anniversary is this June
>>12351619None of you remember the infamous xmas jam secrets dont you?posting what was there here at /vr/ rendered with a ban because the fucking sheep and his fuckbois mass reported everyone here for calling them out or posting screenshots of it.Even term, quakewulf, i and others were banned during the crossfire fire.
>>12352459>None of you remember the infamous xmas jam secrets dont you?Must have been a drop in the puddle of posts here, what should I look for in the archive?
>>12352478Quake Xmas Jam is still your best betThere is literally a webm of one anon here discovering the santa easter egg with troons rights, as the secret room with the flag in one of the maps
>>12352493You should post it, I'm getting nothing.
>>12352459>I and othersWho are you?
>>12352527You don't know who you're talking to?Ya freakin' newfag. Show some respect. It's HIM! He posted in the same thread as Term, Quakewulf, and others during the xmas jam crossfire fire!
>>12352459>>12352493Jesus Christ, no, I wasn't there for that. And I don't usually pay that much attention to Christmas jams so I never found those.
>>12352446According to Joe Siegler (3D Realms' former webmaster), it's actually been more time between DNF releasing and now than between DNF's announcement and release. https://bsky.app/profile/joesiegler.blog/post/3md564ocbe225
How the heckerino do you guys measure "beating" a doom game "properly"?Do I have to beat each map, one after the other, with no saves or no deaths?Because using save scumming to reload seems to undermine a ton of challenge...makes a lot of maps braindead
>>12352653Unless you do it front to back, pistol start, no saves, no deaths, no restarts, with a handcam, brother... you did not by any metric beat the damn WAD.
>>12352660you forgot to mention: no mouselook, and has to be on DOS
>>12352653>Because using save scumming to reload seems to undermine a ton of challenge...makes a lot of maps braindeadPlaying on the easiest difficulty does that, too, so just don't. Also, don't put yourself into the trap of never saving on maps that aren't "classic Doom" sized. Even then, the Doom manual says to "save your game and save it often", then talks about how much a pistol start sucks, so just have fun.
>>12352653My friend did a no death, no restart, no save, full entire run of Doom ETERNAL on the hardest difficulty, in one sitting --- and he said "I finally beat it for real"To me that's insane and I don't think intended
>>12352674But did he also do the master levels in that same one sitting? Because if not, I'm afraid he didn't beat the game.
>>12352653>How the heckerino do you guys measure "beating" a doom game "properly"?If you need the approval of a bunch of internet textboxes when playing games, you should backflip out your nearest window because there's no saving you.
>>12352653You have to play:>with every possible cheat enabled>in coop>with a friend that can easily carry you>savescumming at every turn somehow>while having fun>on the easiest difficulty
>>12352653I just reach all the exists in UV and shoot everything that tries to kill me.
>>12352653UV Max Pistol StartNo SavesI've played WADS on repeat for years but I won't say that I properly beat them until I UV Max it. It's honestly not that big of a deal on how you play it unless you want to flex. Learn to enjoy being a casual scrub sometimes.
>>12352313This has already been done, it's called 50 Shades Of Graytall
>>12352204>>12352251Limit Removing is a thing.>>12352746>challenge to map with Doom's ugliest textures>ends up with these absurd concrete constructs floating in outer soace>almost looks kinda good in a way, in an absurdist senseNot sure I'd call it brutalist, it gets weird and fanciful.
>>12350586So tired of tranny shit. Just let me enjoy my autistic hobby in peace.
>>12351906Polish their skills and let spite fuel their art
>>12352756Spite only gets you so far with art. Love is the stronger force there.
>>12352781True. You can use spite as an accelerant to help get the artistic fire going, but if you also aren't loving what you're doing, you're gonna struggle to not have it all reduce back to embers.
>>12352781Speaking from experience, it led me to make many huge, elaborate and intricate maps and deleting most of them before I got to placing monsters since I realized no one would actually want to play them. Same goes to what few mods I made, at least three didn't see the light of day and the rest got scrubbed. There are better things for people to play and enjoy than what I made out of spite.As pathetic as it sounds, I really don't know how to handle praise and whenever I get it, I feel a knife turn inside me because I suspect it's not just praise and there's something shady behind it. It's why I stopped using Doomworld and left a fair few Discord servers, I was always praised for just making bullshit and it made me sick to my stomach.I don't think spite is a good fuel on its own. Some spite, sure, but in its entirety it just burns you out and leaves you hollow.
>>12351906>Surely that's better than the alternative though?Fuck your false dichotomy. There are more options besides "you're never wrong" and "you're always wrong".
>>12352781perhaps this is something i needed to hear
>>12352898Love is good (controversial opinion, I know), but I don't think spite has to poison the potential of a project, it can even move you to start creating when you didn't before (look at Lamborghini, that was basically "Fuck Ferrari!"), you just can't use it as your main fuel.
>>12352892You seem like a good man, anon. Chances are, things will work out
>>12352439No spoon-feeding, pick up a book and read it (not gonna tell u what kind)>>12352443Fucking top kek
>>12352893I was just sharing my experienceIf growing up thinking you're never wrong makes you into a narcissistic autistic troon, what does growing up thinking you're always wrong do? I know what it's done to me, I'm basically a hermit waiting to die, but since the guy had such a strong certain opinion of what too much praise does to a boy, I wondered what he thought would happen with the opposite
>>12352439https://www.discogs.com/master/157395-VIM-Maggies-Last-Party>>12352443lol
>>12352907>Lamborghini, that was basically "Fuck Ferrari!"A more Doom-related example would be Knee-Deep In Knee-Deep In ZDoom, which was made entirely to spite Tormentor667 and Graf Zahl
I've kinda stalled on a project, I wonder if I could use a bit of spite as a firestarter to get going on it again.
>>12352653>>12352728yeah uv max is when i consider the map "beat". Otherwise just "played". I don't care for beating most maps i play tho only ones i'm interested in
>>12352653I get to the exit, and not using cheats (rarely do these days). I tend to want to UVmax, but there are mapsets which are too hard to be fun for me on UV, and sometimes maxing just feels daunting and I go "Fuuuuck this."I like to try to exit a level with as good health and ammo as I can, but sometimes you don't get a lot of choice. I mostly play continuous with saves, but making my own levels made me appreciate Pistol Start play, and sometimes that's just real fun in the thread challenges.
>>12351794This. We need to end democracy today, which causes all the things you have pointed out. Human rights need to be abolished. Iron fist. Go back to Quake original id maps, shoot kill with no questions needed. These are fucking evil monsters kill kill kill. Some days I start to really understand what it would be like to be Peter Sutcliffe. It takes me an enormous amount of effort to contain my desire for violence when I walk past a gay, I moved to a village so I dont end up walking past them anymore I like to be a free man. I think Doom gets closer to a perfect apolitical game, you are basically killing sinners, most of whom would be sexual deviants with their free rides participation trophies pronouns blue hair. And Wolfenstein 3D, a game where you kill pagans who were also sexually immoral. iD software were really a based company back in the day, if you are a fag and play Doom or Quake, I have some fucking news, "get off my game"
>>12352313>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156518Awkward timing with the Quake BJ, but whatever. I like the color palette in the first screenshot of the second comment.
>>12352942Thanks. We'll all make it, God willing.
>>12352687This.
I can't be the only one that noticed the black hand with long fingers that appears in KOE-37 for like one frame. I turn around and it's peeking from a corner and then it disappeared but I swear I saw it. Has anyone noticed it?I think it was cool because it was just that and then it never appeared again which leaves one with the feeling of "did that happen or not?" but nobody else mentioned it that I saw.>>12352781>love wins at the end memeLife is not a fucking movie you mediabrained idiot.
>>12353498What an utterly retarded interpretation of his statement, you sound like a 12 year old pop-cynic.
>>12351680>>123509632:19 https://files.catbox.moe/dezhxh.lmp
>>12353205It was planned since the beginning, OP in question is from the circlejerk
Was going through wads I have unfinished and stumbled on Paramelancholia again. It it actually worth it to finish? Trying to tell a story through voice clips is gzdoom is pretty shitty, something vostyok realized and only has voices in addition to text.
>>12353686Being good at a craft is about being constant in refining your technique. Dante was a spiteful bastard who put his enemies suffering in his writings and he is considered a classic. Chrischan absolutely loves his sonichu shit and never got anywhere.
>>12353871>Dante vs Chrischan vs Doom modsI can't speak for them but Kegan and Revae never came across as "spiteful" to me when it came to their mods and development, and that kind of angsty spite is what tore apart idSoft themselves.
>>12354023Term is the spite guy. Take a look in Booster's Side Passenger.
>>12353694What's your attempt count by now?
>>12352313>brutalism>Your maps must not have playtime overly long (over an hour long would be too long)seriously nigga
>>12353498>I can't be the only one that noticed the black hand with long fingers that appears in KOE-37 for like one frame. I turn around and it's peeking from a corner and then it disappeared but I swear I saw it. Has anyone noticed it?There are a couple that appear, I think around Ending 1.
>>12349360Is there a version like this, where the demons are girls like that and instead of shooting them and them turning into a bloddy mess you kiss or as ranged weapon air kiss them or other "weapons" like showing your manly chest and then they sink to the ground with red heads and flustered?Would be cute.
>>12354068Pretty sure that's a pic for the Doomgal mod https://s20-tbl.itch.io/doomgals>like showing your manly chest and then they sink to the ground with red heads and flustered?Dunno if that's in there, though.
>>12354037Where? It's a big file.
>>12354068Defeated monstergirls sink to the ground with hearts floating out of them in HDoom
>>12354064I knew I wasn't psychotic. Cool shit.
>>12353871you're supposed to take everything in moderation. add a little sugar, spite, and everything right to your art and projects, and you'll be the next leonardo da vinci
>>12354072Oh I didn't know it was a mod as wellJust thought it was some artist geezer with an OC or a reinterpretation or whatever they're called
>>12354089It might've been inspired by Substance20's fanart >>12349727 and then the same artist made stuff for it. Honestly don't know but I can't complain.
>>12354075It's under CopyVisionMoving.
>>12353126fucking based post
>>12353126democracy is just a nice word for communism
>>12354102Ah I see, thanks, yeah that's pretty good but it sadly stops short of calling out the name. I suppose I could search for the "You're not allowed to complain about ZScript if you don't know anything about coding" quote but I expect it was said in some unsearchable chat channel.
>>12354045194
>>12354130Yeah I'm priced out of the market. No way I can make more than a dozen or two attempts to record a demo before my body tries to rip its own head off rather than restart yet again.
>>12353871You think Dante Alighieri didn't love what he was doing at the same time? Chris-Chan isn't a useful example because he straight up isn't a functional adult (also he had his share of spite), you could just as well cite someone with retardation or brain damage. You're completely ignoring ability, or the capacity to build ability.
>>12354068HDoom is almost that, except there's sex.Your idea is cute though and I like it too.
>>12349363[1-30] I played some DOOM and it was fun
>>12349363[01-30] Anon delights in making a mockery of the news post.wad released >>12354194
>>12354194Thank you for your valued input, Marissa.
>>12354205Sorry, I see my mistake now>>12349363[01-30] I played some DOOM and it was fun
>>12354146>You're completely ignoring ability, or the capacity to build ability.How would that follow from>It's constancy in polishing your craft?
>>12354206Don't indulge him, his name is Alberto.
>>12353694>>123509632:16 https://litter.catbox.moe/kqcggx39xyuimemi.lmp
What's the appeal of ROTT?
>>12354336Lots of blasting.
>>12354336Cool music, Wolf3D vibes, some neat level tricks, fun exposions.It's very hard to get into if you've played lots of Doom and Build stuff before going into it.
>>12354342I did and I went in blind, and I quite enjoyed it.Has some monotony in some aspects, but the violent splatter and sweet music does a lot for the mood.
>>12354336ludicrous gibs
>>12354336MP 40 with infinite bullets.
Why is skillsaw always so stingy with health? Or am I just bad at dodging rev missiles
>>12354445Skillsaw? Isn't that Dirty Water, a Use3D map?
>>12353498Let's see what you've created then.
>>12354478oh i thought btsx was all his maps
>>12354654Btsx is a community project, dum dum.
>>12354654Heh no you are thinking of Valiant or Ancient Aliens or some such.>>12354659No it's a team project, in other words, done on invitation, you had to be one of the cool people to be allowed to work on it.
>>12354659And who is in the community?That's right-- skillsaw.Have you ever seen these two in the same room!?Wake up, sheeple!
>>12354654On the one hand, he did do a lot of maps for them so I can sort of see the confusion.But on the other hand, you should be seeing the name of the authors when you start a new map.
Hey guys, a friend of mine made a soundfont for DOOM and DOOM WADs. give it a try:https://drive.google.com/file/d/159AoCz9OWIx3hYY748SAGVVbUpGQRCJU/view
>>12354747I'm liking it more than I did arachnofont which I recently stops using in favor of Roland SC55 MK2 emulator.I thought these three songs sounded prety gud with in on which I've packaged into mp3s for anonsBroken Mirror - Eris Falling https://files.catbox.moe/crh7ws.mp3Don't Stop Bleedin' - Lippethhttps://files.catbox.moe/r6e6oo.mp3Dont know name of shonghttps://files.catbox.moe/2xcs3w.mp3
>>12354719First one was community project, then the sequels were team project. The first one was released on 2012 and started earlier when Skillsaw hadn't even released Lunatic or Vanguard. Many of it's mappers were noobies at the time. Surely Skillsaw released his first wad on 1998, but he really wasn't a big name until he released Valiant.
>>12354775>Dont know name of shongJ. Manzanares midi of Max Heat from Mega Man Zero 4
does the crosshair in uzdoom still lie to you or do my bullets go where it's pointing now. that was my biggest hangup with graf's port
>>12354102Deeply frustrating even without considering his wider circumstances.One of the few times I can't abide gatekeeping is when it comes to hobbyist code by people who are actually making the effort, especially when something is still basically cutting-edge.I'm not in ZDoom community spheres so I don't know one way or the other, but surely things have gotten better? Stuff like text related would be cause for shame nowadays?
>>12354257>>123509632:12 https://files.catbox.moe/18ami0.lmp
>>12354853>First one was community project, then the sequels were team projectI don't remember the first one being open to all comers, which is what a community project means. Mancuso hawked the texture set around his friends on IRC. It was very much a "friends only" thing. You had to be welcome amongst the right group of people (which I wasn't, I didn't even know the name of their channel, let alone had been invited to it).
>>12355057Is there really no better way to write it, though?Having 26 copies of the same variable acting as a value history?It's not even an array, they're all separate variables.a6=a5; a5=a4; a4=a3; a3=a2; a2=a1; a1=angle;You can't have an array and do something likefor (i=26; i>1; i--) { a[i]=a[i-1]; }; a1=angle;You have to write it all out longhand?Is this really how retarded zscript is?Unbelievable.
>>12355314>Is this really how retarded zscript is?All forms of Doom modding are retarded based on what little I know, don't know much about zscript but I recall my modder friends making gross hacks with it to make shit work. Wouldn't be surprised if it's actually that bad.
>>12351090I'm glad I serendipitous picked a wad you already knew, I was really just trying to pick something closer to the iwads in difficulty/length. I found no desyncs watching your demos back, as far as I know there was only ever one release of PG. >>12350986Bit late, but just in case it was unclear, this wad is (now) free to distribute. You can download it from the dsdaarchive link on the challenge post above.>In 2016, Mustaine revealed that the rights to Perdition's Gate had reverted from the publisher to the level creators, making it legal to freely distributehttps://doomwiki.org/wiki/Perdition%27s_Gate>>12355092Nice runs, you can really abuse those teleporters.
Today i noticed that old Beavis looks like carmackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhzOBc3YeSQ
>>12355338It makes me concerned for other ports that want deep scripting but still don't have it.A fraction of Uzi-Doom's support and manpower, and no telling where they think the line should be drawn.Maybe, it's a mercy if Aeon doesn't ever come out.
>>12355339Fair enoughI'm grateful you were sympathetic to other players of lesser ability, who would not be able to get any kind of exit at all under demo recording conditions on the kind of maps you were demanding previously, let alone record them repeatedly for a speedrunning contest.I mean I could do an Ironman-style "how many monsters can you kill before your inevitable death" contest on a map like Island of Mystery, but there's no fucking way I'd get anywhere near the exit, let alone achieve a full clearance, on UV, without using a handicap mod that sped up all the guns, or made cyberdemons friendly or something.Extra points for using the word "serendipitous[ly]"
>>12349360I finally decided to check out Displate, because some ad said they had over 2 million different designs for anything you might want, and there's a few things I would like to put on my walls as an adult (so posters don't cut it and canvas is clunky and kinda old hat). So I go there and search Doom, I get a mix of the latest Doom game and some Doctor Doom. So I filter for gaming only - just the new Doom game and some Doom Eternal. So I try a bunch of things, original Doom, classic Doom, retro Doom.... pic related.Fucking seriously? 2 million designs and not a single fucking one for original Doom? I thought/hoped I'd be able to browse designs, some fan art, the original cover, maybe some cool pixel-art work of the enemies or something. I thought I'd be able to find something I liked, but not a SINGLE fucking one.Are we really so niche? Is there no love for retro gaming anymore, or is it only considered appropriate if it's fucking console shit?
>>12355505>It makes me concerned for other ports that want deep scripting but still don't have it.Which ports are those, though?Why would a traditionalist, demo-compatible port want a general scripting system?When you can script and rewrite everything, it's not Doom any more.Might as well use a whole new engine at that point.It's already the case, it has been stated many times previously by folk other than me, that UGZDoom (GUZDoom? GuziDoom? GoozyDoom?) is not a Doom engine but a general game engine that just happens to be able to run Doom wads.
>>12355314Niggas will hate on QuakeC for having having limited arrays and no pointers, then spend hours doing some incomprehensibly retarded shit in Doom.
>>12355092>>123509632:11 https://files.catbox.moe/vkoh7n.lmp
>>12355505I think all Doom source ports should cease development honestly. Yes, it's good to have a billion ports to choose from, but 90% of those appeal to vanilla pearl clutchers, 9% are one trick ponies and the 1% isn't Doom anymore. The only port I think people really need is something like Helion (rewrote the entire renderer from the ground up for performance) but with full Decorate and at least partial ZScript support.I guess some genius could make an entirely new standard that isn't retarded, but Doom is a shit ouroboros in current year if you ask me. I love the game and the mods, but do we really need another vanilla-type port?
>>12355515Nigga that shit is a scam made for podcast advertisements. Honestly surprised that like half of the pictures in that image search aren't AI.
What kind of mental illness makes someone create something like paramelancholia?
>>12355553>I think all Doom source ports should cease development honestly.Agreed. Cosmetic/QoL fixes only. No more new mapping standards to divide, fracture and balkanise the community.>Yes, it's good to have a billion ports to choose fromIt actually isn't.It was better when there was basically- Chocolate Doom for purist vanilla- PrBoom+ for Boom (MBF being some weird thing nobody pays attention to)- ZDoom for scripting and gameplay modsThen all the mappers not explicitly working on vanilla stuff made increasingly elaborate Boom maps to a well-known fixed standard whose limitations and caveats were well-understood,and all the gameplay modders made ZDoom mods using whatever scripting it gave youand we, the players, could play mix-and-match between them with no resource clashesI miss being able to play, you know, Scythe, Speed of Doom, BTSX etc, you know, wads that are just maps and textures without gameplay changes, a dozen different ways, vanilla, unmodded ZDoom, or ZDoom with one of any number of gameplay modsYou can't do that any more because every fucking wad is some MBF shit that comes with its own gameplay mod and all the ports are slightly different so wads behave slightly differently in different source ports and it's all messed up and fractured and divided and ripe for harvesting by commercial interests (fuck off Bethesda/Nightdive/Atari/all other vultures).
>>12355515Nu-Doom has genuinely shitted up trying to find ANYTHING classic Doom related. Wallpapers, merch, memes, you name it. I've even tried searching with a pre-2016 filter but it still gives me Dark Ages shit somehow. In some ways, being more niche could be good, but I can't help feeling pissed when 'classic Doom' needs to be clarified but 'modern Doom' doesn't. Classic Doom IS Doom, and has been for over 20 years. The new games are another thing entirely.
>>12355573What's wrong with it? Grain of Salt is a good mapper.
>>12355598Disregard, that was Lemoncholia.
GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!
>>12355579You are making up a problem out of thin air, because there have always been wads, even Boom-compatible ones, that changed up weapon and enemy behavior(thus breaking compatibility with other gameplay mods). People still release regular wads frequently, as well.
>>12355553>I guess some genius could make an entirely new standard that isn't retarded
>>12355579>no more new standards!>door left open for 'QoL fixes'You are not prepared for this. Oh, you'd get fucked right up.
>>12355612No, it's very easy to define a QoL fix: it doesn't break demosync. It's interface-only, it doesn't affect how the world simulation runs at all
>>12355625That's cosmetics, not QoL.
>>12355596>I can't help feeling pissed when 'classic Doom' needs to be clarified but 'modern Doom' doesn't. I feel that way about so many things.
>>12355610This is one of the most accurate memes I've ever seen on this site.
>>12355606>You are making up a problem out of thin airI am not.>because there have always been wads, even Boom-compatible ones, that changed up weapon and enemy behavior(thus breaking compatibility with other gameplay mods).Scythe 2, plus a bunch of janky 90s crap like All Hell Breaks Loose were the exception, not the rule.>People still release regular wads frequently, as well.Noobs making their first or second map release "regular wads" (that somehow manage to be worse than 1990s shovelware) frequently. All the old mappers who actually knew what they were doing have moved on to MBF21/DSDEHACKED -- or, god forbid, ID24 -- crap now. Since the most recent map came out, Sunder needs MBF21 dehacked extensions to even load, and play the original 14!
>>12355596>>12355639That's exactly what they try to achieve when they name a new game just "game". Doom, Tomb Raider, Need for Speed, God of War. They want to erase the old thing because they just want to milk the popular franchise with zero efforts, and it's hard to do if you have to compete with objectively superior quality of the original.
>>12355659Yes you do. There's a thing called "demo-compatible" that existed since forever, and every port is either this thing or not. If it's not demo-compatible, things can work however they want in it.And there never was only 3 ports like you're implying. >b-but only 3 were relevant because only 3 were relevant in my headReplace PrBoom+ with Woof and it's the same picture.
>>12355662I think the goal is mostly to avoid intimidating newbies. You hear about Doom and there's a new game coming out: Doom 6: The Dark Ages. Now you think that to get into this series you need to have played all the older games, but the older games look too old and different, or maybe they play the old games and decide to give up. Or they don't even think you need to play the older games, but think that this is a new game for old fans of a legacy series, clearly not for the newbie. By naming it just Doom or Tomb Raider or whatever, they're signaling it's an entry point and it's for everyone, forget about the old, except we want all the brand recognition we can get from the old.
>>12355515>Are we really so niche?Yes?
>>12355523>Might as well use a whole new engine at that point.Wearing a game like a skin suit makes it easier to farm impressions. You have a ready-made audience of unsuspecting victims.
>>12355579Eh, can't agree that not having a bunch of standards would be good honestly. I do take responsibility on engaging so hard with MBF21, fuck knows that wasn't a good idea.>>12355610Fair. I agree as much as I disagree.>>12355659I've been meaning to make a limit-removing thing. Not sure what, maybe that possible BTSX thing will get me back from my mapping exile.
>>12355671>And there never was only 3 ports like you're implying.Wrong. There were only three ports worth caring about from a mapper/modders point of view. Look, I get it. You are a noob. You don't know any of this because you only started playing Doom and joined the community long after Valiant, the herald of the modern era of combined mapset/gameplaymod bullshittery, was released. I expect you think the cacowards are actually an objective assessment of map quality and not just the opinions of a few self-selected dress-wearers. So I will explain it to you, just this once. Sit down and listen.From the mid 2000s to the mid/late 2010s there were only 3 relevant single-player ports with non-trivial user bases: Chocolate, PrBoom+ and G/ZDoom. Basically nobody used Legacy any more, or ever used Eternity. Multiplayer was its own thing, with its own ports. This continued into the late 2010s when the abandonment of PrBoom+ created a power vacuum which Eternity failed to capitalize on, leading to its demise and the rise of UMAPINFO and the plethora of indistiguishable WinMBF/DSDA-Doom clones we see today, each with their own slightly different feature sets.
>>12355702>I do take responsibility on engaging so hard with MBF21, fuck knows that wasn't a good idea.Who are you again?
>>12355703>Vanilla>BOOM>MBF21>UGLGBTZDoomVirtually all that exists nowadays. Virtually 4 relevant standards. Not a problem. I'm not reading your post because you're implying too much about my background and ad hominem is a sign of low IQ.
>>12355706Not to be an ass, but I'd rather leave it to interpretation. If you know me, you know me. Otherwise, I'm just another anon who made poor choices.
>>12355659 Now you're just lying.
>>12355546>>123509632:00 https://litter.catbox.moe/ql1s1iaze6nojm30.lmp
>>12355553>>12355579Gay and stupid.>>12355714MBF21 worked out well enough for me as both a creator and player, and I want to see further developments.
>>12355659Bunch of retarded noise.>>12355703This is all wrong.
>>12355703>Eternity failed to capitalize on, leading to its demise?
Does anyone remember the name of a source port... I think it was a modern offshoot of Vavoom. It was on Doomworld but I can't find it anymore, maybe there was some drama and he deleted it from there, I wanted to see if it's still being developed, it had interesting graphics (especially the lighting), also if I remember correctly the monsters were ''3d'', but I'm not sure about that
>>12355804>modern offshoot of VavoomOnly thing that comes to mind is k8Vavoom?
>>12355804KVavoom or something? He got chucked off Doomworld for thoughtcrime and went to doomerboards
>>12355703>From the mid 2000s to the mid/late 2010s there were only 3 relevant single-player ports with non-trivial user bases: Chocolate, PrBoom+ and G/ZDoom.This is such a retarded simplification that it's hilarious, ports like Skulltag and ZDaemon would double as single player ports because they could, and filled needs which ZDoom couldn't.Ports like Edge and Eternity saw not insignificant work done on them in the 2000s because Decorate would take time to even start existing, let alone be able to even do shit, and implementing ACS and using it on top of Decorate would also take time.Watershed gameplay mods like Immoral Conduct could ONLY be done on Edge, which is why the ZDoom Edition of that mod was a crudely stripped down DeHacked substitute with not even a fraction of the depth and features. It wouldn't be until Zen Dynamics (2005) and Zero Tolerance (2008) where that level of complexity would be approached by ZDoom family ports.
>>12355815Oh sorry, I got ''error'' when sending the first message, so I resent it worded differently. But yeah to the anons who replied, that was the source port name, thanks
>>12354072>Note: DoomGals requires GZDoom and a copy of either the Doom, Doom II, Heretic and/or Hexen IWADs in order to run. It may be possible to use FreeDoom, but the mod has not been tested with it.Fair enough if he hasn't tested it, but isn't it hypothetically impossible for Freedoom to not work with something that the OG IWAD works with?
>>12355818Eternity was the only way to do splitscreen for a long time.
>>12355818I get where he's coming from but what he fails to realize is that the "few old" ports are actually the survivors of natural selection. Free software is always a shotgun approach and anything approaching dominance spawns new competitors based on its own flaws.Personally I do wish there was some agreed upon standard but I extra wish the community was less reliant on GZDoom.
>>12355565Is it actually a scam though? I'm only interested in the quality of the plate and the print, not the art, because you can upload any image you like.>>12355596Yeah it's depressing as hell. I know I want some Doom wall-art of some kind, but I'm not really sure what I want, so I was hoping to find some ideas maybe cool fan art or something. Now I'm just resigned to a hi-res cover art option, because nothing else seems viable.
>>12355524Yep, kek. I don't think they have the skills necessary to think for themselves in this regard.
>>12355515>Are we really so niche?yes and no. modern doom is the current & biggest thing right now so it would make sense for all the merch to be geared towards that while classic doom relevance exists as a modding platform and/or indie game engine.you see it with other things too. fallout for example has all it's merch based around FO4 and now the TV show because the later is the newest thing while the former is the best selling/most actively played game in the franchise to the point where even when they touch the classic games, FO3 or NV in merch it's all redone in FO4/76's artstyle.>>12355680>I think the goal is mostly to avoid intimidating newbies. You hear about Doom and there's a new game coming out: Doom 6: The Dark Ages. Now you think that to get into this series you need to have played all the older games, but the older games look too old and different, or maybe they play the old games and decide to give up. Or they don't even think you need to play the older games, but think that this is a new game for old fans of a legacy series, clearly not for the newbie.that's basically what it is.at least in doom's case there's been enough time between doom 3 and doom 4 to justify the naming.
>>12355827Legacy also lived on for as long as it did because of splitscreen.>>12355830Yes, there were a lot of competitors and branches even back in the day.CsDoom and ScoreDoom are pretty damn old ones by now, for instance.
gatkeeping doom and 90s iD projects is good because otherwise you get abominations like QBJ3 that let them infest the discussionanyone worth talking to would lurk moar anyway, we already have marissa et al due to welcoming people
>>12355887nigger shut the fuck up already
>>12355824Not that I know of. At most you get graphic/arstyle mismatches if the mod has extra frames for the vanilla sprites but not the vanilla frames I guess.
>>12355887
>>12355887If you're the same anon who had to move to a village in bumfuck nowhere because you're afraid of fags, congrats.You are homophobic in the most onions, reddit user way possible.
>>12355818Thanks for the trip down memory lane.Lot of good times with ICD-SE, Don's Challenge, and especially Cold Hard Cash.And even those old and shitty ZDoom mods. Think people willfully disregard how jank the port was for a good chunk of its life, and how lucky it was to have a tenacious dev like Heit. (and people like Xaser and Zero Prophet to push its features early)
>>12355929Yeah. There's things people can complain about with Xaser (some don't like his maps), but Zen Dynamics was an absolute gamechanger. It blew my... 12 year old mind (had to count), that someone had done something like that for Doom.
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>>12355887Don't mind me, adding to your (You) counter. Based.
>>12355887Based. The Quake mapping community being filled with freaks is entirely due to one boomer opening the gates to them, letting them reach a critical mass unhindered, and getting bullied into handing the reins over to them.Not a single inch can be given to these people. Don't join anything involving them.Don't legitimize any of their work.Don't even talk to them.Short of doing actual politics to invoke a final solution, that is what you have to do to prevent things from getting worse.
>>12355887Based. Don't let them lie to you.
>>12355901Who mentioned homosexuals, other than you innately associating QBJ3 or troonsissa with them?
>>12355596>>12355887>gatkeeping doom and 90s iD projects is good because otherwise you get abominations like QBJ3 that let them infest the discussionNah you're right. I'd rather the community be gate-kept and healthy than being more popular, and as a result, flooded with (even more) retards.
>>12355887When you're right you're right - and you, sir - are R-I-G-H-T with a capital R!
>>12355887feels good to be in duke community, it's all 40 years old boomers and they hate em
Anons will see this shit and not think it's another megafag bit. Incredible.
>>12355887After the likes of Linguica and Quasar, everyone should've realized the biggest fucking thing yet: Gatekeeping doesn't work when it comes from the inside.When the oldguard "grows up" and submits to the problem (Or is even the main source to begin with), it doesn't work.How many generic "i hope this shows up in a twitter account that posts 4chan screenshots" posts about gatekeeping will be made before people get it in their fucking heads that the old blood is part of the problem?Even Romero went Woke/SJW.
>>12355579This post is wrong on many levels.1) At 2000s there were way many more source ports. Edge, Legacy and Doomsday were all almost as popular as Zdoom and had many exclusive wads made for them. People also made lot more sp content for Zdaemon and Skulltag/Zandronum as they do now. Also Eternity Engine was already a thing.2) MBF was not any weird thing, but most of 2010s wads were MBF-compatible. PrBoom+ had MBF-compability.3) There have always been shitloads for mapsets for zdoom. Not just because of scripting, but because of 3d geometry and custom monsters/weapons without dehacked limitations.4) Both Scythe and Speed Of Doom sequels had custom monsters.5) There is plenty of mapsets coming out every year without any custom deh changes other than mapnames.6) Usually stuff that works on dsda also works on woof, nugget and cherry. So there is ultimately just choice between gzdoom and boom/mbf-ports. Simple. 7) Only casuals use kexdoom and nobody makes maps for it, so commercial interests have not done damage to Doom so far. You don't need kexdoom for even LoR. 8) Ad Mortem, an MBF21 wad, is the best thing we have done, and you are a double nigger for not enjoying it.9) You are looking for reasons to get mad and depressed.10) You need to suck balls.
>>12356090If it weren’t for https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12168397/#12168462 I’d call you a complete schizo, so instead I’ll join in on your slightly schizo theory.
>>12355659>All the old mappers who actually knew what they were doing have moved on to MBF21/DSDEHACKED -- or, god forbid, ID24 -- crap now.Name two id24 wads. Protip: You can't.And what the fuck is wrong with mfb21 other than you being contrarian. Even our own projects use mbf21. You don't play or make maps for our projects, tourist?
>>12349360what species is the spider mastermind supposed to be? how the fuck does it reproduce?
>>1235565932 Vanilla/boom compatible wads from last year with no custom monsters/weapons and made by not noobs>Amalgoom>Penitence>Dead Sea Scrolls>Perdition's Gate Resurgence>Eventide>Earthless>Community Trunk>Favillesco episode 3>Form vs Content>Forlorn>Frayed>Black Sun>Serenade>Sandy Overhaul>The Evil Reborn: Resurrected>The Road To Skull City>The Warp>Trappist>Useless>Vertex Relocation>TNT Xiao>11 dbpsOwned
>>12355659Decided to actually read your post this time.>I am not.Yes you are.>Scythe 2, plus a bunch of janky 90s crap like All Hell Breaks Loose were the exception, not the rule.Custom or modified monsters and weapons were not rare. Obituary, Mordeth, Osiris (one of my favorites), STRAIN, these were all notable and well received .wads and megawads from the 90s which had custom monsters and weapons. Rebirth, Caverns Of Darkness and Void, were notable ones from the early 2000s.That also doesn't count high profile TCs like Aliens TC, Batman Doom, Army Of Darkness Doom, Action Doom, Twilight Warrior, and arguably HacX.>All the old mappers who actually knew what they were doing have moved on to MBF21/DSDEHACKEDBecause MBF21 is Boom and MBF but with more features and fixes? It's literally the waters Boom mappers would already be extensively familiar with but a lot more capable.>ID24The only notable mapset for ID24 that exists Legacy Of Rust by Dumpsterdive themselves, people don't want to touch it because it's still unfinished. Nobody maps for it.>Since the most recent map came out, Sunder needs MBF21 dehacked extensions to even load, and play the original 14!Imagine that, someone's many years long passion project sees some shift in scope and upgrading over time.>>12356132>>12356126If he doesn't like Ad Mortem, he should be skullfucked.
>>12356154>>Dead Sea Scrolls>>with no custom monsters/weaponswrong!!!!
>>12354775and if anyone would like to hear any particular MIDI put into that soundfont I'll afford you that and upload it in mp3, you know, if for some reason you cant listen to soundfonts at the moment.
>>12356167My mistake. Pale Horse then.
>>12356138Clearly most of the mastermind's body has been replaced with cybernetics and only the head is left, who knows what the unaltered creature looks like.
>>12355887>>12356102seeing the current discussion tracks here right now i fail to see how things would be different with gatekeeping.even if corralled into your own walled garden most of you guys would still be a bunch of pearl clutching faggots living in a collective echo chamber and no amount of culture war brain rot is going to change that.
ALL LEVELS FOR DEATH WISH 2.0 ARE OFFICIALLY DONE. we fucking made it Bloodbros https://x.com/BloodDeathWish/status/2017712590462279842
wtf happened to all the good Duke Nukem 3D wads?
does anyone know what game are they playing at 3:06 - 3:09?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozKJIcmojro
>>12356209>”Gatekeeping”I also don’t think it works well, especially not here. It can have the opposite effect of empowering the “gatekept” with spite, kind of like what we saw with hijacked OPs.>>12356250Good to hear, looking forward to the eventual release.Did that new Blood port, Refreshed Supply, already get its “one patch”, or was it waiting for DW?
>>12356273Last Riteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-4HggmP-L8
>>12356265>Duke Nukem 3d wads
>Pipework Powered PillarsWhat the fuck
>>12356379Hello, difficulty spike. Hope you weren’t playing it on a blind skill 3 run.
>>12356250That vid looks fucking sick, like a Blood take on hell.
>>12356403If you enjoyed that, the concept makes a reappearance in the QBJR version of Ctrl+Alt+Concrete. At least there it's just the centre of the arena so you can fuck off to safer ground.
>>12354989I just put Precise Crosshairs into my autoload and that solved that.
>>12356307feels like you threw Alien Trilogy into an Italian exploitation era zombie movie
>>12356403What a coincidence>buy the Quake rerelease>play the campaign and the 2 original expansions>forget about the game for a year>come back last month>play the other 2 newer campaigns>want more, download ironwail>play a few levels of qbj3 since it's all everyone is talking about>want something different, see a few recommendations like AD, Dwell, Honey, and Alkaline>try Alkaline, put it on nightmare since it's what I've been doing>first map I try is pillarsso I made a save right before that arena and I've been stuck on it for the past 3 days. It's fun as hell though, and the map looks sick visually
>>12356250The video of the level is pretty cool with that music. Is it from another game or the new soundtrack planned for Death Wish?
>>12356486forgot to quote, as I'm not that anon:>>12356379
>>12356443not that anon butDamn, that precise crosshair is wild, really useful for many reasons. I probably should feel bad for wanting to stop using Nugget after thousands of hours without having a crosshair on.
>>12355604I had a cool idea and I'm putting it into motion.
>>12356481>Doom 2 in India
>>12356590New /vr/ community project ideaDoom 2 India Onlythe rules are simple, you just make doom 2 maps that use a lot of brown textures, especially the brown liquid ones.
Why wasn't Doom ported to arcades? Seems like a easy money maker.
>>12356078I hate to burst your bubble but even the Duke Nukem community suffers from this problem. Just look what happened with the Duke Nukem Forever 2001 restoration project.
>>12356687It would have to be heavily changed, including the level design. Arcade games need people to feed quarters you can't have a game where someone can take their time. You can add a timer, but some levels are more labyrinthine which makes it less suited for that
>>12356687Unknown. Ask Romero or Carmack.
>>12356708I don't think it would need that many changes. It would be:1. Timer, so you can't just sit around in the levels forever.2. Resurrecting enemies (Basically Nightmare Difficulty with a few more mercies) 3. If the player can't memorize the complicated levels and end up lost and dying, well that's just tough shit.
>>12356687I don't think it would work as an arcade game.
>>12356708You could have made a timer that was something like par time*2 or 3. That would be reasonable, I think.
>>12356694Thats unreal engine. No tranny can conquer Build
>>12356745Have you seen AMC Squad?
>>12356687Quake was, and it had to focus on deathmatch with the bots being the enemies from the SP game rather than other Rangers
>>12356750I played it, there are a few furries on dev team and they all very inclusive and shit. Nothing worse than that
>>12356763Seems like it just wasn't thought out that well.
>>12356763Cool. Has anyone ported this to pc.
Any gameplay mods worth trying? I have already tried Smooth Doom (better animations, cool) and Complex Doom (monster randomizer, but way too hard...frustrating)
>>12356789High Noon Drifter, GMOTA, Omerta, Doom Incarnate(and False Angel and Thy Blood Konsumed), Pvt. Stone, Treasure Tech, Trailblazer.
thoughts on this Doom arcade layout? It's possible with the Namco System 11 board and Tekken harness (18 inputs).
>>12356789BYOC
There's also the possibility of putting fire and action on the joystick. Then the right hand is free to use the strafe+run buttons with the index, middle, and ring fingers. And it feels more Doom-y and PC-like to have an actual trigger.
>>12356789>Brutal Doom v22 test 4, apparently there's an update around the corner>Hellrider, makes you feel like John Wick if he was a chick in a hockey mask>Rust and Bones, just a solid expanded vanilla weapon mod, goes well with most other things>Protocol Disposable, makes me feel like HUNK from Resident Evil>Act of Violence, you play as a Yakuza member>Red Spiral '93, more survival horror so you need to pick your maps carefully, also inspired by RPG Maker Games>Doom Comic 96, it just takes as much as possible from the comic and puts it in Doom, lots of fun but you may need to adjust the difficulty a little>Final Doomer, weapon sets made for a few megawads including Doom 2 and Final Doom, plus a bunch of good shit from the community>Enhanced Vanilla Project, does what it says on the tin, think Smooth Doom but with different aesthetics and a few minor tweaks (namely lost souls with 50 HP)>Voyage Infernal, French-themed weapon set with some neat mechanics on the side>Aracnocide, has a ton of different classes to play with, weapons can be upgraded or turned into different weapons, tons of replayability potential
>>12356785Yeah.https://www.emuline.org/topic/2025-arcade-pc-quake-arcade-tournament-edition/
I revised it.These arcade "flight stick" levers can incorporate force feedback via a small rumble motor.So you could have the arcade game have force feedback such that the shotgun gives a firm bump, the chaingun buzzes, the BFG ramps up slowly then big bump, etc. Chainsaw could be fun too.
>>12356293the greatest irony is that the people who champion gatekeeping are usually the kind of people who'd be on the receiving end of such a practice whether they'd realize it or not.if we actually did it'd be the same kind of self-appointed cliques of hall monitors, taste makers & self-righteous paragons of purity/virtue most of you guys criticize & pearl clutch at communities like zdoom & quake's modding scene for being.
>>12355703>>12355798(You)'ve been dumped on already, but I'm still waiting for an elaboration on Eternity's demise, 'teacher.'It just had a major release six months ago. Recently, it's worked on fundamentals like finishing Heretic, physics refinements, a renderer update that solved long-standing performance issues on all but the most childish slaughtershite, many bug fixes, and keeping up with the endless Boom++ arms race. The code base has still regular contributors and, ehh... 1.5 active developers. Once Claude joins the teamu, there'll be 2.5During its supposed death the late 2010s, I'm pretty sure it was receiving edge portals at that time, and its most important mapping feature was finally becoming 100% gameplay compliant. Pretty important if people are going to use the thing.Not seizing a bigger spot in the limelight is a fair call, but no port is entitled to an audience or a bloated dev team, and it still doesn't fit even a rhetorical definition of dead, so what was it missing to count as alive?
>>12356687https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Austin_Virtual_Gaming>It was founded by five "Doom junkies" who were University of Texas alums and figures in the Austin-local tech industry in the wake of the massive enthusiasm about Doom. As such the location was uniquely dedicated to Doom deathmatch, possessing a local network of computers in 600 square feet of space on which players could play indefinitely at a rate of $8 per hour.That's not really the same as a traditional arcade, but presumably Id still made some profit in exchange for permission to charge people money for playing their game. They were well aware of what was happening and could've knew the owners personally. >On June 18, 1994, the store held its first official Doom deathmatch tournament, headlined by id Software employees John Romero and Shawn Green who were in attendance and participated directly in the competition.
>>12356430Underdark Overbright had something similar, too, iirc.>>12356486It’s indeed a cool map, just with a right proper challenging arena that can be too surprising. My one big help tip is that the quad doesn’t need to be picked up immediately.
Yesterday I replayed seismic ventures. I fucking love seismic ventures. Appreciation for seismic ventures.
>>12356486Alkaline as whole is beautiful and fun, but PPP is the hardest map of the set and it's not even close
>>12356307thank you!
>>12356486I wouldn't consider myself an epic pro at Quake but I didn't despise any other map in Alkaline on skill 3 other than that fucking stupid pillars map. The last part in particular almost feels unplaytested or encouraging people to savescum through it (which is what I ended up doing between waves); you have to sync up your jumping, how the waves are going to come in, when you pick up the quad, your positioning, and ultimately your platforming because it's your only way to have enough ammo/health in a coverless arena to deal with the wave rape.It's obviously not unbeatable but I really just had no interest in doing that part knowing that I would have to do it squeaky clean after trying from the start of the arena after 4-6 hours of attempts. I think it would have been appropriately challenging with 1 or so less waves but maybe they spawn in tighter so you can maximize the utility of the quad you get.
Here's a question for you boys: What do you feel is the best use case for the freeze thrower in Douk 3D? Every other weapon in his arsenal has a clear role in my mind, but I struggle to find a good use for that silly ice gun. So I often pull it out to freeze lizard troopers and chaingunners when I see there's extra freezer ammo nearby.Admittedly there's times I feel like I don't use the devastators enough too, the RPG is too satisfying.
>>12357234It's good for turrets if you don't have explosions. I use it for ep4 Alien Beasts and on everything else whenever the map drops me lots of ammo for it. It also bounces off walls so can be situational in tight corridors if you struggle with fights
>>12357248I never thought about using it on turrets before. I'll keep that in mind.Duke 3D is a really good game, though Episode 2 has some honest to god looney tunes moments with hiding Sentry Drones in closets, it goes from mean to straight up funny.
>>12356810Depends on if you're trying to make something that would be authentic to a hypothetical arcade cabinet, because I don't think there would be individual buttons for each weapon.
>>12357234Isn't the Devastator really good against Octobrains?
>QueerBlowJob 3 got shipped with a map with an unattainable secret
>>12357318This "community effort" is indefensible top kek. Soft locking maps and now this. The shitseer mafia couldn't get a single map or secret, let alone ONE set piece right and fully complete. How embarrassing.
>>12357315you're correct but I often find octabrains in groups of 2 or 3 and it's really satisfying splattering them all with a single shot of the RPG.or kicking + shotgunning them to death.
>>12357250the sentry spam in early ep2 maps is over the top but this whole part of the game is very underrated in my opinion.
>>12356818>Brutal Doom v22 test 4Is it still ruined, or is there an option for it to be good again?It's been ages since I messed around with mods, I remember absolutely loving the BD mod at around v19 I think it was, because the gore/splatter effects weren't overdone and the extra enemy attacks were subtle and felt like they really worked in the context of the original game. Also there was a 'realism mode' that was nicely balanced for quicker enemy reactions, smarter AI, and lower health on both sides.Then there was a new version (v20 or v21) and it was fucked, because he'd decided to modify most of the existing weapons (v19 had a couple but again, they fit), loads of the sounds, ramped up the gore to stupid, and it just didn't feel like Doom anymore. Plus he screwed the balance on the realism mode somehow.I understand if he wants to add/try new things, but removing the option for the subtler approach was a deal breaker for me. Last time I played with mods I was still using v19, but I'm curious to know if he carried on down the same path or if he corrected back.>Also any recommendations for mods that might suit me better based on what I've said would be appreciated.
>>12357318>>12357323Lol come on don't exaggerate, there are hundreds of maps with unreachable secrets. Industrial Zone, Monster Condo, And Hell Followed, ... It's hardly game-breaking.
>>12357343brutal doom v22 is like fresh air compared to v21, definitely worth checking out v22.As for other gameplay mods I dunno, I mostly stick with pandemonia and deathstrider occasionally cuz I like them
>>12356506I mean, it matters less for Nugget because you can't aim up and down there. It makes a much bigger difference for GzDoom given the potentially much more varied nature of weapons.So I feel comfortable with Nugget's crosshair options as they are.
>>12357431The Nugget dev is working on a feature for HL2-style crosshair bars for health and ammo.
>>12357392In what way though? Did it regress back to tweaking a subtle formula, or did it continue changing everything but just did a better job of it?
>>12357215A brutal hard map is fine, but I like having an idea on how hard it’s going to be. It was an issue I recall running into a lot for those Q2 jams. Kind of like >>12356486 the hardest maps from those sets would end up being the first ones I tried. Some more map packs seem to be embracing the idea of showing you the difficulty before you jump through.>>12357231>you have to sync up your jumping, how the waves are going to come in, when you pick up the quad, your positioning, and ultimately your platforming because it's your only way to have enough ammo/health in a coverless arena to deal with the wave rape.That arguably shows how it was playtested very thoroughly. My first time through it I didn’t “give up” through savescumfagging but instead bit the bullet and changed the skill level.
ROMERO POSTED A VIDEO ABOUT CATACOMB 3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcUqwMf01pI
>>12357502PPP is the only truly brutal map in Alkaline. You've got some annoying ones, and ones were ammo is scarce, but it's not exactly Quake Sunlust
>>12357315Yeah, one Devestator missle will explode them like the RPG.
>>12357332Honestly I was worried it'd be annoying but it's so excessive that it goes around to being funny. Episode 2 is much better than I remembered.Really Douk 3D as a whole is way better than I remembered, though it's been like 15 years since I last played it. Hail to the king.
>>12357609Alk_core really kicked my ass during my recent AD/Alkaline run, and it was like consistently hard. When I played it on skill 3 nearly a year ago, I didn’t have nearly as much trouble. I don’t know if it got updated during the last patch but it really threw me off.It also felt consistently difficult whereas Pipes is largely difficult only near at the end.
>>12349363>>12357584Reply to the news post, retard
>>12356817lol it looks like a chicken. or a penguin.
>>12357234on Damn I'm Good, it's extremely useful for everything you think is almost dead. it only takes 2 of freeze shots to completely freeze basic enemies
>>12357451Biggest changes as for v22 are performance improvements. Remade blood/water/fire decals and particles, new weapon sprites. I'm not old bd player so I can't say all minor details changed and etc, I like v22 much more than v21.
>>12357343I don't know, I played only the OLD versions when they were new and enjoyed them well enough. V19 through V21 brought me no joy and I ignored the mod until V22 dropped. There's a tactical mode I played once or twice, didn't really care for it since I like playing faster and there are better tactical mods.TL;DR: Fuck knows, download and test it.
>>12349360So, someone on youtube found the EEE footage of 1995 with Tek War devs talking about the game, footage of Heretic, and Descent using its designed stick for gameplay.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDMcb-uhxyw >>12355887You Sir are Scholar and a Gentleman, while these two gay ass furfags >>12355891 >>12355901 sucks jabronis.
Currently playing through TNT: Overcharge, and while it is a nice challenge for the most part, it's comical overuse of Archviles is really making each fight setup kinda boring, to be brutally honest.
>>12357234I sometimes use the Freezer on Protector Drones because of how fast and jittery they move around, so the shots bouncing around can help with hit probability.Sometimes I also use it for shooting around corners a bunch, since I don't tend to use the ammo much otherwise, it also being less seldom used means it's often a reserve weapon, too.The best part of it though is when you freeze an enemy, take out your pistol, and you can say "Hasta La Vista, baby!" or "Rest in PIECES." then shoot them so they shatter.
>>12357775Greetings, Peter. Jolly weather, innit? I'm here today because your loicense to post on 4chan has expired. You are to be jailed in Nottinghamcesterpoolfaggershire penitentiary for your crimes against the country and king. I hear only the most endowed Syrians and Sudanese inmates are sent there. Enjoy your tea and scones, for they will the last thing you taste before your meal consists entirely of BBC-grade protein, and you won't hear a peep from sir Attenborough - if you know what I mean.Chop chop, my good fellow. We haven't all day. Get in the cab, you bloody twat.
>>12357793>jailed>penitentiaryFuck off yank
>>12349363[01-31] The final level of Death Wish 2.0 for Blood has been completed. Release date TBA.https://x.com/BloodDeathWish/status/2017712590462279842(Note for newsanon: if release date is announced before next thread, add it to the second sentence).
>>12357631Based and dukepilled.The mapping scene is not as big as for Doom but the goods are top tier, highly recommend to lurk into it and check out what looks interesting. I made few maps for it too, Weather Report and Locked & Loaded. Now finishing up my 3rd one for the duke /vr/. Sadly there's not much activity for the project though, it's only me and another anon that I haven't heard from in a while, hope he finishes his work too.
>>12355901>had to move to a village in bumfuck nowhere because you're afraid of fagsWhat, who was this? Link the original post please.
how's the basement anon going, haven't heard from him in a while now
>>12357816Recovering from his injuries he sustained from stepping on -30 damage nukage.
>>12357816Better, I think. He got a new job as a Fred Durst impersonator, and found a girl with a house.
>>12357450That's neat, I guess, though I never felt a need for that myself.
>>12357856I want to make use of it for ammo bars because there's no good way to tell if you have a backpack or not with the existing nughud.
>>12357810This bozo: >>12353126I think he's Polish.
>>12357841Heh..? Sort of funny in an absurd way. But if this is a reference, I don't get it. Envious of the part about the girl.>>12357865Oh that. Thanks. I confess I did not read past the first sentence of that post.
Anyone here makes MIDI specifically for DooM? Any quick tips to not make them sound like hot shit?I know a bit of music theory and such but I find making MIDIs quite hard because I can't use crutches I use to make standard music. The bass is always farty and background elements always clash with whatever else I have going on.
>>12357873>But if this is a reference, I don't get it.He posted a picture of himself and he's rather Durst-y.
>>12357584>Carmack is video calling from some bare white room with no furnitureLmao
>>12357502>Some more map packs seem to be embracing the idea of showing you the difficulty before you jump throughI don't really like that. Something I like about quake is the "the rules of the game are the same in every difficulty, it's just the map that changes" thing (except for nightmare as we know but it doesn't count). It seems to me this is a cop out to not make an effort and rebalance the maps for each difficulty. Albeit it is nice to know more or less what you're getting into, that I won't deny.
>>12358043I’d be more inclined to agree when it’s a more traditional mapset with a clear and set progression of levels. When it’s not, when it’s a hub of levels where the progression is up to you - and the levels aren’t all ‘safely samey’ feeling regarding combat and encounter difficulty - I think it’s nigh essential.
>>12358169what the fuck is this
>>12358169
Paramelancholia is like a test case study of how NOT to do a game in gzdoom, everything is wrong.
>>12358197Is it at least released? Age of Hell and Brutal Fate are going into 2026 now with no release.
>>12358169the fuck is it
>>12358274Has been for since august 2024
>>12356481Is that gun from Final Doomer?
>>12358197I saw the artfag textures and was sorta turned off, then I saw it uses stock R667 weapons and that killed any interest I had in it.
>>12358169Our grandfathers really did fight on the wrong side of the war.
>>12358169will y'all ever shut up about marisa?fucking rent free, I swear
>>12356818>Red SpiralHoly shit I had forgotten about that mod. It's really one of the highlight of Doom weapon modding imo. Too many mods that makes you an unstoppable one man army where you decimate absolutely everything even with the weakest gun in the pack.It also makes other mods shine, things like flashlight, footsteps, rain, spooky enemies and ambient music, all of which I never really had much interest in outside of a passing novelty before playing Red Spiral. My favorite way to play it is with the mods I mentionned earlier, Project Malice, darkness settings to the max, flashlight at half strength from default ||mostly as a cope for my aging PC not being able to handle the default range|| and scaling down the resolution a shit ton because why not. I never believed into turning classic Doom into a scary game before playing like this, and it was basically my only reason to even keep gzdoom around.Thanks for reminding me.
>>12358445 >discord spoilerim gonna kms
Stop replying to that stupid image, it's obviously a troll, it's not a real mod, he won't say what it's from because he's made it up as rage bait, and half the replies are reaction image bot spam.
>Enyo just lets you keep the jetpack after beating the game and gives you a new assault rifle for new game plusNeat.
>>12358463Codename: DEMOLITIONIST
>>12358463>it's not a real modBut it is.And there are several of them like that too.
>>12358512Fun lil mod.
>>12358548The enemies and the levels were very cool looking. I really love the 6 episode mapsets sometimes. Heartland/Enyo. Just stuff that doesn't drag out too long.
>>12358512>>12358548Enyo is the shit
>>12358557Doesn't wear out its welcome, fun little set of maps, pretty fun thing to get dropped out of nowhere - and it gave a bunch of assets for me to mess with. I really liked to OST, too.I think I only wish it made some better use of the bulwarks (Alkaline's melee shambies) but they get used more appropriately near the end.
>>12358169More tranny shit? You've got to be fucking kidding me. Trans are not politics. They are bullshit.
I see that fagweather is sending his pisscord fuckbuddies to derail /vr/ again.ANYWAY, some crazy SoB is doing a new sourceport for Hexen, but for DOS and with QOLhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/bernewfie
>>12357584>>12357648Let's make it easier for newsanon:>>12349363[02/01] John Romero posts a video about the making of Catacomb 3-Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcUqwMf01pIMaybe this >>12357775 is newsworthy too, not sure though.
>>12358445I really ought to play it more often.Since I'm here and I'm sitting on it, here, something I got from an acquaintance a while ago: https://files.catbox.moe/uhot2u.rarIt's a monster/item limiter. Unlike stuff like 10.5x it won't make monsters die upon being alerted, they'll just not spawn and you can control the items too. I suggest not touching the item cap if playing with RS'93 but you do you.It's not too smart, you'll have to set the limits per-map manually but it means you can turn even shit like Sunder into a long, lonely resource-deprived journey. Enjoy.
This fucking general.Stop fucking indulging that person's need for recognition and relevance every goddamn time.SNS is up, shitheads. Looks like it's Death Foretold on PRCP this week.Connect to macgu.fun with Zandronum 3.2.1 or just search "shit" in doomseeker and let's play some fucking Doom.
whats a fagweather? whats a pisscord?
>>12356486GOD DAMN FINALLY! What did it: I looked up on youtube and apparently there was a mega health on top of the first arena that I didn't get. Going back to get it allowed me to get to the final arena on full health, also grabbed some armor along the way. Then it was mostly about trying to not use a single rocket until the part where the quad damage pops up, to then have enough rockets to just spam them constantly from then on. Anon who told me to save the quad was right, thanks. Grabbed it only when the flying saucers showed up. Technically my second time seeing the clear screen, as I beat it earlier with quicksaves during the fight just to have an idea of how much ammo I would need, but this attempt I started from a save before the arena and did it in one go.
>>12358642Nice. There'll still be some tricky fights, but you can relax because the rest of the mod should be smoother sailing.>Anon who told me to save the quad was right, thanks.No problem, glad it helped.
>>12358640fagweather aka fairweather. a notorious tranny mapper for Q1. who took over the community with their shemale goons.
>>12358640Irrelevant topics for the Doom thread. Go elsewhere to learn about them.
>>12358727oh thanksand I guess pisscord is discord lol>>12358738I googled "fagweather" and got results for the current weather in albania
Gonna port me some Saints of Virtue sprites into GZdoom.How 1 is even supposed 2 use Decorate files lmao.
>>12358738This is a general RETRO FPS THREAD, not only a DOOM thread.
I've been replaying Half-Life 2 with MMod and Project HL2. Gotta say I'm having more fun than I remember, even though Ravenholm is kind of annoying once the spooky vibes become familiar. Got stuck in that section where zombies seem to spawn indefinitely for a bit, since I wasted my ammo on them.Picrel isn't with Project HL2 loaded, just kinda surprised at how good the game looks just with MMod - actually hard to believe it's a mod for an old game, then again HL2 hasn't aged much in the visual department. I kinda wish it got to the action faster like HL1 but oh well. I still like the game plenty.In case no one heard about it, Project HL2 is just a reanimation and model pack for MMod. Uses HL Alyx models for Gordon's arms and some pretty swanky looking models for the guns, while the animations get real snappy. Good shit, probably not for everyone. as if anyone actually talks about HL2 in these threads
>>12358853We talked some about it last Christmas when it had its anniversary.
>>12358853Half Life 2 would be great if it actually felt like a sequel to Half Life 1 and didn't have multiple long and painfully obvious tech demo segments.Also all the guns kinda feel like ass compared to their HL1 equivalents.
>>12358841Spammy DOOM drama also gets grating.>>12358853I liked the frequent compatibility of SMod and its variants as it pertained to custom maps. I might look into Project HL2 someday.
>>12358859Gameplay does pale some compared to the first game, but when I played the episodes again (for the first time in, god, how long?), I noticed they had MUCH more fun combat than base HL2.
>>12358854I probably was just busy, then. I take that back.>>12358859Having played both games a few times, yeah, HL2 isn't really a good sequel. I think I like it more because of nostalgia than anything, but it's kinda comfy anyway. A bit sucky and annoying at parts, but when it works, it works great.>>12358860Project HL2 definitely has some zest to it. Feels like Gordon putting all the things he learned in Black Mesa to use, bad habits with the .357 included.
>>12349360Cacobikini
>>12358898I was expecting a Cacodemon wearing a bikini and now I'm disappointed.
>>12358898Very interesting.
>>12358841I think his point is more that topics like off-site and scene drama were previously deemed off-topic, and it's only soft-allowed now because the old /vr/ mods died in the warehouse fire of April 2025. Hence why the thread has been particularly beleaguered as of late
>>12358853Mmm, I really should give MMod another run. I remember giving it a try and enjoying it a decent bit at the time, but got quickly sidetracked since I'm not really big on Half-Life. Frankly I still don't get why the games are revered as they are. Both have pretty lackluster shooting, and while it kinda works better in multiplayer, that hasn't been the prevalent way to play the games in decades now.
>>12358751This is a webm.>>12358863>>12358887I agree, like, the game has some iconic setpieces, but otherwise it feels really bland, like, i feel like i'm having way more fun in a random shootout in a nondescript warehouse in HL1 than doing stuff in Ravenholm or anything with the Antlions.>>12358860>Spammy DOOM drama also gets grating.Preach, they left most of the drama shit in this thread intact while i got b& for responding to one of these posts with some harmless, wholesome, holocaust denial, he deleted that post but left the other one i made about Quake Rally.https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12349360/#q12350350The fact that out of all these shitty off topic posts he only deleted the one i made makes me wonder why he didn't mind the .>TROONS TROONS TROOONSposts but went nuclear when i talked about Israel.>>12358930>warehouse fire of April 2025You mean when the whole site got CHICKEN JOCKEY-d?Yeah, i can't believe it, but somehow things got even shittier, i guess one can always start digging again just when you think you've already hit rock bottom.I'm probably getting b& again already lmao.
>>12358937I was playing Echoes for Gold Source and then Diffusion/Entropy Zero: 2 after playing some of these bigger doom/quake/build mods - and I will say I can and do enjoy them but even with the modern half life mods - they are just way jankier with worse performance than most Doom/Quake/Build maps. It does seem like every Valve engine game can only do maps with only maybe 50 enemies (and you have to play for a number of hours just to reach close to that number unless it's L4D) max on that level that you can usually just plow through in 10 mins or less only to hit another loading screen even with it's 'best of the best' modern mods. And yeah I wish the shooting felt better in Half Life games outside of the multiplayer mods.I have to wonder if all the scripting Half Life is doing is even worth it when some mods for ID Tech 1/2 can emulate the design philosophy almost perfectly and then have vastly better shooting/enemy feel along with better level transitions since it doesn't just pause in the middle of some random hallway to load the next map.
>>12358743> pisscordsSpeaking of which, avoid the slipseer aka Shitseer, the LibreQuake aka libtard quake, and fagweathers discords
>>12358197At least it's free. Would be a major fuck up to try to sell it.
>>12358274Mark is making a game out of VietDoom before Brutal Fate. Age Of Hell is showcase of Bridgeburner failing as a game developer. Dude had like over 20 mappers working free for his game, but he can't even get it into early access state 5 years after the release of demo.I'm waiting for Nash's Disdain myself. It's perfect Quake clone even though it runs on gzdoom. Much better Quake content than what the actual Quake community has put out in recent years.
>>12358841Quakers need to make their own thread.
>>12357248I just wanna say thanks for the tip on using the freeze thrower on turrets because it completely wrecks them.
>>12359154As a Quaker I unironically agree. I haven't even played Doom in over 5 years at this point.
>>12356946>(You)'ve been dumped on already, but I'm still waiting for an elaboration on Eternity's demise, 'teacher.'Why bother? You aren't going to listen. You've made it extremely clear you've already made your mind up that everything I say is wrong. Instead, you want more ammunition you think you can attack me with. I expect the righteous anger makes you feel good. Why would I play along?
>>12359517If I wasn't curious, I wouldn't have posted.
>buy the first nu-doom on a whim because I never tried it before>regular zombies are health dispensers made of paper>everything else is a ridiculous health sponge>empty 6 shotgun shells at a zombie soldier from medium range without even turning it wobbly and glowy for the EPIC BURTAL GLORY KILL>uninstall and request a refund
>>12358950I actually really liked getting through Nova Prospekt with Project HL2 for some reason, can't figure out why. Maybe it's just how much faster the animations make me feel? There's also true ironsights for most weapons if you want to be extra accurate, I guess.>>12358954To be fair, HL2 is leagues more complex than anything made with Doom and Quake. GZDoom itself is far behind the curve when it comes to things Source had at release, since it's been purpose-made for a game rather than adding to an existing featureset. I'm not a fan of GZ games so it's not like I'm doing super in-depth research, but I'm pretty sure only Selaco has a pretty rudimentary physics system and Divine Frequency also has loading zones. The lighting in both also is primitive in the technical sense, but post-processing does its job anyway.Now in terms of actual gameplay: yeah, I agree. You can easily make a Half-Like in GZ if you put your heart in it and have the player get swarmed by 10 billion enemies - well, not really, GZ is shit at handling too many active things at once and shits itself if there are too many 3D sectors being drawn but you get the idea. With the original game, as i was released in the 90s? I don't know man, Strife's kinda shit even though it has all the ingredients to pull it off.I still think HL2 doing all the shit it does is worth it. It's in this limbo between balls to the wall action you see in Doom, the numerically tougher combat of Quake (everything is aggressive and wants you dead) and with just a bit more work it could fall near FEAR. It's just a different type of shooter that's a little bit more tactical than its peers.I still like HL1 better, though.
>>12359154>>12359191Again shitseer tourist>>12358860Drama is part of this board's history, and bans were only applied when said people had their own infiltrated here to mass report people for calling them out.i know this because back when i was infiltrated at the quake mapping discord/slipseer circlejerk central, they always organized in private to come down here and silence people calling them out, the save me romero meme was even created by one of the obnoxious morons there who hates q2 and 3a.Nowadays, every drama in this very threads can be always traced back to said people because they see /vr/ as "the root of all evil" as they also saw dbp too when they had enough of doomworld and zdoom's bullshit.They don't care about the game at all, they just want a platform to push their bullshit, do the same repeated garbage, and ban anyone who calls them out as they did to dumptruck_ds or term.And unfortunately, things are as we see now because most of the "old guard" are as bad as the people everyone calls out.>>12359724HL2 is great, i still keep my copy of the orange box pristine on top my shelf, and i must say that valve really got the job done restoring the release visuals of HL2.In fact after playing quake 4 again recently, it is impressive how the games of that time aged better than the ones we see now.
>>12359776What gets me about HL2 is that even later on and with a dedicated spin-off game using the tech, it surprisingly translates really well to VR. Game's had so much mileage from modding.
Was this ever modded into actual Doom, either in a turn-based format, or the RPG elements in a way that wasn't horrifically hamfisted?
>>12359791Both Source 1 and Idtech4 were ahead of its time when it came to visuals, and nowadays everything feels like a downgrade once you watch the documentary.>>12359816there is the doom diablo mod but i never heard of that again and it has been 10 years since.
>>12359816Uhh... sort of.
>>12359776>i know this because back when i was infiltrated at the quake mapping discord/slipseer circlejerk central, they always organized in private to come down here and silence people calling them out, the save me romero meme was even created by one of the obnoxious morons there who hates q2 and 3a.Speaking of which >>12352493Still waiting on a webm of this.
>>12359776Shame about not owning it physically, I only have some old ass version which I think is from the Orange Box on a CD I burned God knows how long ago.By sheer luck, I came across this video just now: https://youtu.be/jlJxXMaRWBkIt really goes to show HL2 was actually improved over the years, I didn't realize the anniversary version on Steam was further updated.
Doom is a game for strong strong men to play whilst thinking deep of politics and philosophy. I will rule a country, then go home and play Doom, then go to sleep, then wake up, and rule the country again. And my country will conquer so much land, so much fucking land, I love playing Doom.
>>12359776>Drama is part of this board's history,in this board's history most of you were in your late teens/early twenties lol
>>12359917I will jizz in your cystholes.
Can someone knowledgeable with ZScript tell me how to add a playerclass check to this? I assume this is the part that it'd go in.Basically I want it to check for "CaptainBlazkowicz" to play his step sounds, and "BloodRayne" to play Rayne/Step. I have two separate versions of this submod for each character and that's dumb so I want to combine them.
Are there any Brutal Doom forks worth playing apart from Project Brutality and Brutal Pack, anons?
>>12360047Schism is pretty neat for the Sorcerer.
I love Doom.
>>12360015>return (pl.GetClass() == 'BloodRayne' ? "Rayne" : "Blazkowicz").."/Step"The important bit is>pl.GetClass() == 'BloodRayne'Alternatively you can do>pl is 'BloodRayne'for ancestry checks. Both will work with that class.Personally, I'd make this sound a property instead of hardcoding it in getStepSound. But that's only if you care about potentially adding more player classes in the future.
>>12360126Ah, the "thread over" signal has arrived
>>12360134Also the text turning red once it hits 500.
>>12360141That doesn't happen for me, you must be using some extension I guess? Only thing I see is the post count in the bottom right corner turns oblique
>>12360145lol
>>12360145Me when playing Zero Tolerance 202X.>>12360149>That doesn't happen for me, you must be using some extension I guess?Yeah, seems I'm so used to it that I forget what it was like without it.
>>12360128Oh shit, I forgot to specify the playerclass isn't ZScript. Did that matter?Script error, "DIFootstepsB.pk3:zscript/stepeventhandler.zsc" line 27:Unknown class name 'BloodRayne' of type 'PlayerPawn'>only if you care about potentially adding more player classes in the future.Nah, this is just for Doom Incarnate.
>>12360145fucking lmao
>>12360168Hm. ZScript is parsed before Decorate so this might affect it. Forgot about that important detail, sorry. Are you loading the footsteps after the main mod? If that doesn't work either, you can do a runtime check instead like this:>Name cls = 'BloodRayne';>pl.GetClass() == cls
>>12360207Yeah, though I was thinking about putting it directly in my version after I got it working.And that one does seem to have worked, thank you.
>>12360246Glad it works. The alternative that I didn't think of for some reason is to use>pl.GetClassName() == 'BloodRayne'You can omit the separate Name variable in that case. Had a brainfart and forgot GetClassName is also a thing. That returns a Name as opposed to a class type, meaning it won't fail upon loading if the class doesn't exist.
invisible blood for specters please.
>>12360310It already has that.
>>12360310whenever you shoot them little red sprites drop though.
>>12356062>one boomer opening the gates to themyeah, carmack. open games are good and you're a joyless faggot who wants to punish the world because you can't find enjoyment in anything
>>12360450>>12360450>>12360450the new one
>>12360295Nice, I like that better. Thanks again.
