>has a battery save backup>predates zelda 1, the game that's always praised for inventing battery save backups
>has "z targeting">predates ocarina of time, the game that's always praised for inventing z targeting
>>12354465>>12354471Yeah but I don't personally like either of those, while I personally like Zelda, which makes Zelda superior even if it didn't get there first.
>>12354465>ots camera>predates resident evil 4
>>12354489I like Zelda too but I don't want stuff falsely attributed to it.
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>>12354465They should have just gone straight to hard drives, why would I be impressed at an invention that makes those games a pain to play nowadays
>>12354465>the game that's always praised for inventing battery save backupsno one says that. you are crying over a scenario you invented in your head. god i miss the pre-hack janny so much that would nuke low effort threads like these...
>>12354565Hard drives back in the 80s were more expensive than an entire home computer. You would have to be retarded to put that into a game console at the time, and you would have to be an even bigger retard in retrospect because it would have negatively affected preservation of these games.Also, replacing a save battery literally takes 5 minutes, and half of that time is setting up the soldering iron and wetting your sponge. You could change all of the batteries in your entire collection in like an hour (and install sockets so that next time you won't even have to solder) and then you won't have to do it again for 20+ years. If that's a pain than you should probably find a new hobby because you're going to have to start doing stuff like that more often as this stuff continues to age.
>>12354578It's literally in the Guinness book of world records.https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/88157-first-videogame-with-a-battery-powered-save-feature
>>12354565This is an ad from 1983, the year the NES was released in Japan. You grossly underestimate how expensive memory and hard drive space was back then. Keep in mind that is $3398 1983 dollars, back then the minimum wage was $3.35/hr.
>>12354604>10MBs on a fucking S100 busWho the fuck needed that much space on any hardware using the S100 bus? What in the goddamn?
>>12354604That's $10,983 in today's money
>>12354687Who was it that was seeing this ad and buying one back then?
>>12354687"today's money" is a crock of shit and you know it.
>>12354692Fuck if I know>>12354697It means adjusted for inflation you retard
>>12354750Inflation is just legalized theft and you know it.
>>12354760why are there so many fucking brainlets here that don't understand economic principles and furthermore are proud in said ignorance?
>>12354528Conversely, I'm sick of people trying to act like pre Z-targeting targeting systems were remotely as advanced as it, or that people praising Zelda at the time weren't already well aware of them and what they did in comparison.Z-targeting was rightly praised as a novel advancement, because it allowed smooth control over melee and ranged combat in the 3D space of an adventure game, with immediate access to dozens of different tools, abilities and moves , which could be seamlessly blended with each other, so you could move in a given arbitrary direction while attacking in another, selecting the specific move with direction controls based in the diction you were facing, or pull off a variety of abilities while in the middle of a dodge, and have your action be affected by the dodge animation etc.Stuff like having a 'firefly' follow you around and move to track whatever thing you'd be aiming at was already done by Medievil (which was basically the standard of 3rd person action games prior to OoT). 'Targeting' is likewise an absolutely basic concept that tons of flight/space games have had for ages. That stuff should be obvious, and so praising MML for something as basic as auto-pointing your aim towards an enemy (which is really all it does) seems almost patronizing to a game with much more interesting merits.
>>12354887Virtual On's is still better and it came out in 1995.
>>12354465>zelda 1, the game that's always praised for inventing battery save backupsAre people retarded?
>>12354465>predates zelda 1Does it though? SCV release date just says 1986.Can you prove it came out earlier than February 21, 1986?
>>12354805"Adjusted for inflation" doesn't take into account the cost of living. Things could be more expensive (relatively) yet more affordable.
>>12355304>Can you prove it came out earlier than February 21, 1986?Are you seriously claiming that the Famicom Disk System release of Zelda had a battery backup?
NDS general?
>>12355340Fair Point. My apologies.
>>12354471Megaman Legends does not have z targeting.
>>12354465>Platforms PC-8801, FM-7, PC-9801, X1, MSX, Super Cassette Vision, Game Boy, Sega Saturnwhich of these releases is the one that you're tlaking about with a battery save backup in the cart?
>>12356159The answer is hidden deep within OP's image.
>>12354465I thought Zelda 1 was praised for being a good game, not for inventing one thing>>12354471I thought Ocarina of Time was praised for being a good game, not for inventing one thing
>>12355304The Super Cassette Vision version released in April 1986. The North American release of Zelda (which is the cartridge that is praised for adding a battery) released in August 1987.
>>12356597Thanks Google
