Who's actually better?
Kung Pao Chicken
>>12365954Johnny Cage
>>12365954Mexican in sombrero on bottom
what the fuck do you fucking think
me
>>12365954Idk but top pic is the most insufferable character in the game light years away
When I was a kid and only knew so much about Mortal Kombat due to how violent it was, Liu Kang's bicycle kick was one of those things I somehow knew about through others. It was also my favorite part of the movie when he bicycle kicks Reptile.
>Liu Kang and Kung Lao were meant to be friendly rivals and equals>many games later, Liu Kang has saved Earthrealm multiple times whereas Kung Lao has no feat to his name>Liu Kang ascends to godhood, leaves mortal Raiden to be Kung Lao's rival>Raiden singlehanded saves Earthrealm while Kung Lao fails once againAt this point Liu Kang and Raiden complement each other way better than Liu Kang and Kung Lao.Kung Lao has been left behind, and it would take a major narrative shift to save this character.
>>12366793the newer games try to drive that what holds kung lao back is the pride in his ancestor & namesake that he clings on and tries to live up to.ironically his arcade ending in MK11 shows that he's a much more effective protector than raiden or liu kang as he uses the hourglass to pretty much stomp out threats before they pop up.
>>12365954Kung Lao simply because he is cooler (not a very high to meet, to be fair) and that he had way more story potential than Liu Kang, even though they didn't do much to Kung Lao.
>>12365954Liu Kang is a literal kang, while Kung Lao sounds like meal #4 at your favorite Chinese restaurant.
>>12367270They have the "same" name. It's a pun.Liu Kang is the Mandarin pronunciation and Lao Kung is the Cantonese pronunciation of the same name.Although their names are written with different characters, because Chinese is a marvelous language and they have 10 different characters for each sound, but each character can also have different pronunciations depending on the context too.
>>12367662That's so racist oh my gah!
>>12365954Brak Meow
>>12367686how is it racist if the real liu Kang actually is a ching Chong chinamen
Who won the first 3 games canonically? I thought Kung Lao won MK2 but it was retconned later? I stopped playing after MK4 so I'm probably misremembering.
>>12369967Canonically Liu Kang won them all. He also won MK4.
>>12365954Liu Kang if you're playing the game
>>12365957>liu kang>riu kang>kang riu>kang a riu>kangaroos kick
>>12370643>kung lao>kung rao>king raoh>defeated by goro>goro 4 arms = kenshiro fists flurry>???>mfw
>>12370534Why
>>12371874>reptile>is a reptile
>>12367662Tobias genuinely tried his best to do his research culturally and linguistically but the world was a much bigger place back then, if he actually stumbled onto something that thematically resonant, that's divine providence. For example, Tobias thought he was shining a light on Chinese history by putting the Lin Kuei in the story, but it was literally from a schizo book I stumbled upon in an old /t/ thread from Paladin Press, who published literature in the 80's-90's about weaponry and how to make bombs and basically how to be a domestic terrorist. The book is complete falsehood but I main Subby and own a gun.
>>12365954I always thought they fucked up in MK1 by letting everyone do the pit fatality. It should have been exclusive to Liu Kang.
>>12365954>fireball-throwing warrior monk that can turn into a dragon and is the defending champion after breaking Outworld's streak vs. nepobaby OddjobNot hard to spot the Jannetty
>>12373473fucking why
>>12373460That's hilarious
>>12373473Liu Kang doesn't have a killer fatality in the original , he was the only heroic one
>>12373480But razorblade hat is sick
>>12375739Not true
>>12373460The book was likely a sham because there is no proof the author is even a real person, but it was back then considered real by ninja nerds, just like the idea of ninjas using straight edged swords Most ninja lore is made up desu. When you get right down to what Japan even has recorded of the history, they were nothing more than a non warrior branch of samurai, spies essentially, who may have also done assassination using poisons etc, not these shadow warriors with a litany of cool weapons. Much like Chinese kung fu, the myth is cooler than the reality
>>12370643Kangas are notorious martial fighters
>>12379993And the largest rodentia
>>12377896ninja outfit itself is from theatre stagehand outfits. the stagehands are supposed to be 'invisible' to the audience so when a ninja did something on stage the stagehand would come out and perform the action, with the audience meant to interpret it as "the invisible ninja did it". people not understanding that would take it as the stagehand being the actual ninja.
>>12380764That's interesting. I always assumed the hooded pajamas getup came directly from kung fu movies
>>12380632It's a marsupial you fucking dick head
>>12382719...
>>12384390Did I stutter?
>>12377896All asian shit related to fighting is made up and fantasy, especially the chinese crap. it's been completely exposed by MMA, kickboxing and boxing.Lu Bu probably didn't even fucking exist.
>>12386602karate is effective but not sports-legal without removing the effective stuff
>>12386605>effective stuffOh my god you're so fucking delusional. What ''effective stuff'' are you talking about? Karate is not effective because its idle stance is hands at the hip, the head is an easy target. Karate has been used to some success in MMA with fighters like Conor Mcgregor, Wonderboy Thomson, Lyoto Machida and most recently Jiri, but outside of that their bread and butter for striking was always muay thai/boxing.There is no ''secret hidden kill move'', there is no ''touch of death'' retard. Your mall '''''sensei''''' 'john smith' lied to you.
>>12386623>What ''effective stuff'' are you talking about?headfirst throws into the ground lol. karate is useless in MMA because this stuff is obviously illegal
>>12386628First off, throwing someone headfirst is not a karate move, if anything that's freestyle wrestling. Second, that is actually completely legal - it just rarely happens because it's hard to do. You literally do not know what you're talking about. https://youtu.be/SUR4cr5M_gc?si=LLSMSUQkD_cpqk-e&t=57
>>12386639combat effective throws are illegal in sports karate. your example is indeed a wrestling exchange and has nothing to do with this.
>>12386658Oh, so karate has some unique grappling and a throw that is very efficient yet conveniently isn't used in mixed martial arts? please, tell us all what the move is called. You'll change the landscape of MMA forever! come the fuck on, dude.
>>12386662>please, tell us all what the move is called.sure, it's the ashida kim bushi-jutsu. do be careful of where this knowledge may lead you if you choose to pursue it
>>12386674lol, nice joke, but honestly I wonder how the 80s kids feel nowadays since it was common for parents to send them to karate classes to get rid of them for an hour, knowing now that fighting has been completely solved and karate is not a part of it.
>>12386679I can tell you since a pal of mine went to one of those mcdojos. he was required to buy all the required gear from them and was taught nothing but kata the whole time. he learned jack shit but his parents were happy he's doing something disciplined. years later it turned out the sensei had cut a deal with the high school where he held classes and the director got a share of the profits from the GIs that were being sold to pupils.
>>12386679>>12386690btw, the worst mcdojo I learned about was an aikido place that presented itself as a self-defense course for girls. it was a straight up scam that preyed on chickenshit moms who didn't want their daughters to learn anything useful because it was "too violent". they intentionally taught those girls shit that doesn't work.
>>12386690>>12386703kek, that's so ridiculous and stupid that it's actually funny. Those motherfuckers really had it easy with that scam, thanks Karate Kid. Imagine being a japanese immigrant in the USA or Australia at that time, people would have eaten your shit so long as you sold it to them as karate or self defence and your name was like ''take-a-shit-a suck-a-cock-e''. I almost respect the hustle.
>>12386712100%. and back in the 70s it was enough you knew words like teriyaki and kotatsu and no one would try to check your fake lineage if you claimed to be taught by ninja. it's nuts how some of those clowns are still being defended today when it's all obvious bullshit.
>>12375739>heroiclol his fatality kills in The Pit
>>12386834Everyone's does
>>12386747Funny how the old is teriyaki and the new is sushi
>>12386747Bruce Lee's entire legacy falls into this category as well.Zero recorded fights, the only "fight" he had that was ever witnessed by anyone was him getting absolutely humiliated by Gene Lebell, who was literally only toying with him.But because carny promoters spun a bunch of myths about him appealing to ignorant Boomer notions of Far East Oriental mysticism he's still though of as a fight God who could defeat elite champion fighters.
>>12387918Nobody cares, superhero martial arts is cool, real martial arts are boring. I own ten guns, fighting is retarded outside of fantasy
>>12389076>I own ten guns, fighting is retarded outside of fantasyTranslation: "I'm a fat pussy"
>>12389079I grew up in Detroit fighting for fun as a kid, you're just a larper who's afraid of confrontation so started a glorified arobics class as an adult and has never been to jail or mental hospitals constantly like happens to people who actually lived violent lives and eventually grow up and just own guns
>>12387918ironically when Bruce died he was studying grappling in order to apply it to JKD, which would've made it a proto-MMA style.
>>12390716>I grew up in Detroit fighting for fun>you know Detroit, where the black people that I'm terrified of live?LMAO this is the fakest thing you could have possibly ever written.Every geek when called out claims they grew up in whatever is the most stereotypical "hood" place they can think of. Because in the LARPing geek mind that makes them tough.
>>12390716>been to jail or mental hospitals constantlyI overlooked this part, LARPer. It gets even better.If you're such an unstable violent bad boy that you're constantly in jail and the mental hospital how are you able to own those 10 guns that you were pathetically bragging about (before you were mocked and adjusted your story to make yourself a ghetto pugilist)?Let me guess, you bought them illegally off da mean streets of Detroit because you're so hood.
>>12387918The problem with Bruce Lee discussions is that very few people actually know much about him, or the transitional era of martial arts he existed in. While you're correct that he has plenty of exaggerated myths about him, it goes too far in the other direction too. Lots of people unfairly diminish him, saying he was "just an actor and nothing more," or overly obsess over the stuff like the Gene LeBell incident. That wasn't a huge deal between them - they became friends, and Gene even taught Bruce some grappling. Gene himself didn't like people making it into a bigger deal than it was, and spoke well of Bruce.>Zero recorded fights, the only "fight" he had that was ever witnessed by anyoneHe did have confirmed fights, you can even see a newspaper talking about his high school boxing match. We know he fought some people and won, it's just he didn't fight any high level competition, and didn't compete in general. He didn't have a fighting career and those fights are mostly just interesting trivia.Annoyingly, Bruce Lee gets talked about as a hypothetical fighter more than what he actually was, a martial arts teacher and actor. He was actually a great teacher for the time, and helped push the American martial arts community towards more realistic training. In the first year of American kickboxing, he was already training a student (Larry Hartsell) for a tournament, and Joe Lewis, the first kickboxing champ, trained with him in 1968-1969. Hell, the knockout in the first kickboxing match even came from something Joe had worked on with Bruce. Now, even as a teacher he gets exaggerated (father of MMA, etc.), but it's not a stretch to call him the "unofficial grandfather of American kickboxing".In terms of contributing to modern combat sports, Lee did more than people think. It would be better if people gave credit for the things he actually did rather than arguing endlessly over his fighting ability. His actual legacy looks good enough on its own.
>>12365954They tried to make them into Ryu and Ken but nobody gave a shit about either. Everyone liked the palette swap ninjas better.
>>12391486I don't believe you.Kung Lao was not in the MK movie.Kung Lao was not in the MK cartoon.Kung Lao didn't return in MK4.Kung Lao didn't have a single moment in the spotlight until MK Shaolin Monks.They didn't put any effort into making Kung Lao a major character, I for sure didn't see him as a major character until much later. There's no way he was supposed to be analogous to Ken.
>>12391520The TV show was about him.
>>12391536NTA but the only thing I remember about that show is a youthful and slender Kristianna Loken.
>>12391152I did grow up around Detroit that's why I wear these hats. And I'm not afraid of black people just annoyed by a portion of them because I've actually been around them unlike sheltered dweebs like you. Only rich white picket fence retards glamorize poverty "culture" because they're far removed from the danger of it. Now go thinking you're a tough MMA douche until you get in your first street fight at age 30 something and either get jumped and shut down or shot in the face because it's the adult world I now live not in Michigan but it's a state with extremely liberal gun laws, and no they're not legal anyway ya dumb square faggot
>>12391536The tv show wasn't about the Kung Lao in the games, it was based on the ancient Kung Lao he was descended from who's only mentioned in lore within the games. That show was weird as shit because it used popular characters who didn't make sense being in that time period like Scorpion and Noob Saibot
>>12391609it was complete nonsense, I think they tried to tie it into MK4 too.
>>12391593You're the Kevin Smith lookalike? LMAO I should have known you were a lolcow. Are you still doing that "Aryan White Supremacist" LARP despite being mixed race?
>>12391630I liked to trigger Asians and Africans. Gonna cry?
