Previous thread: >>12346856>Try to keep things /vr/ related: Focus should be on 6th Gen Consoles and older. Slight off topic is fine so long as it's related to CRTs, such as later 16:9 models, HD models, etc. Systems with backwards compatibility are also safe territory, as are re-releases on newer hardware. PC CRTs are also welcome and appreciated.>Produce OC! Bust out your camera and take photos of your CRTs displaying all sorts of games, featuring all sorts of tubes, using all sorts of signals. Getting good shots can be hard, but if you take enough, at least a few will turn out alright.>Try and give as much information as possible when asking for info on a specific set, or troubleshooting an issue to expedite and help you may receive. As always, Google is your friend and we are your friends with benefits. Do people read this? Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either; Seriously, there's literally 6 years of backlog at this point.>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. Always remember to show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.Limited discussion of video processing and scaling devices is alright, but remember to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories.CRT Pastebin (Never Ever) : http://pastebin.com/1Ri5TS3xGuide to CRT Hunting : http://pastebin.com/H9H9L2LQGuide to Video Monitors : http://pastebin.com/pQX4N6gZGeneral Purpose CRT Adjustment Guide : http://www.arcaderepairtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/guide_setup_adjust_arcade_monitors_v1.2.0.pdfS-Video Pasta : http://pastebin.com/rH2h6C7WBKM-10R Protocol Info : http://pastebin.com/aTUWf33J
I like my 1980 13" Sampo. It's got perfect condition rabbit ears and a handle. Half of the pots are in the back and recessed which is annoying though, but at least it has them.
>>12378924ooh, that makes sense. i play my media from usb drives locally. on an unrelated note, i finally got my hands on that 3d playstation tv. i definitely overpayed but i've been wanting one for a while and i found one in great shape, with working glasses. it's got me back into 7th gen stuff. what's your favourite 3d movie you've watched on it?>>12379430it has a nice interface, and i already own 2. the path of least resistance is using a decently powerful device with native composite output that is already in my house. and even if i didn't already own one, they're plentiful and still cheap.
>>12380251Avatar and Tron: Legacy are the only ones I've tried so far, I'm a lot more interested in the games. Speaking of the glasses, I bought these Bravia glasses that run on replaceable coil cells that are also much more comfortable than the ones that came with the display.
Did any consumer TVs have a dot mask rather than a slot mask? I know plenty of VGA monitors used dot masks, as well as non-sony professional monitors like ones made by panasonic, but I've never heard of any TVs that use them.I just really find slot masks ugly tbqh.
I finally made my mobile battle stations. Every console is connected to a giant industrial power strip that I can unplug whenever I'm not using them (10 outlets for the cart with the smaller CRT, 16 for the cart with the big one). Idk what I'll do about video cable management, but since it's so easy to get behind the tv's, I'll probably just plug each console's video cables in when I'm ready to play them. Would like to add a couple more consoles eventually, but for now I'm quite happy with how they turned out.
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>>12380427these wire rolling carts are a popular setup for CRTs/consoles, and objectively they're a very practical solution. But I just can't stand them for my own personal setup. They just look so ugly. But at the same time, it's become downright impossible to find something suitable that actually looks nice, because nobody makes TV stands that are deep enough or sturdy enough to support big CRTs anymore, so you're limiting to picking through facebook boomer scraps locally.
Just bought this, need to fix a few issues. The image is obviously tilted, which I assume I just fix by adjusting the yoke to make it steady.Second issue is that the image is bowing a bit, which is hard to see in the picture but noticeable.Third issue is that there is a pretty strong blue tint to the image, and at certain brightnesses, visible blue horizontal lines can be seen on the picture in an hourglass pattern.What do I need to do here to fix these?
>>12380441Here's another picture of it, this is Batocera over component.
>>12380427>>12380430>>12380440I don't get this shit. It looks horrendous. It immediately makes me think you're poor and live alone with no friends or in a basement where your parents don't care. Just spend like a few more dollars for proper decent looking furniture, heck even the temu chinese furniture shit with LEDs and stuff is probably cheaper and better.
>>12380430>open grates for your tv feet to fall throughat least put some 5/8"-3/4" wood plates on top of the shelves
>>12380442a yoke adjustment is probably the ideal, but I do know that a lot of these wega trinitrons also had a limited degree of software rotation you could do in the regular menu. You could try that too. For the rest of the geometry, just go into the service menu and fuck around with settings until it looks "good enough". And you can use 240p test suite to check the relative strengths of red/green/blue and adjust the cutoff and amplitude of the green and blue to match red and try to get a neutral white. Do those horizontal/diagonal lines moves across the screen? Could be retrace lines which can happen if brightness/voltage is cranked too high IIRC. Could try adjusting G2 on the flyback.
>>12380453It is ugly, but it's organized. Not my thing. It can be done so much better.
>>12380453I wouldn't trust amazon/temu/whatever particle board crap to hold a big CRT. Best bet is to find old bulky WOOD furniture.
>>12380459Not sure if this WEGA model has adjustment but the picture is so severe I think I'd have to adjust it regardless.The lines don't move, and are more/less visible depending on brightness. Will adjusting G2 also fix the color tint issue, or is that another problem entirely?
>>12380465You want to know what works as good as wood?Thick glass.
>>12380467if the lines don't move, I don't think they're retrace lines so I wouldn't fuck with the flyback in that case. I'm no expert on this though, and I have no idea what those lines could be if they're not moving.
>>12380463>but it's organizedIs it though? I use wire shelves for stuff, but like, there's rules to this shit lol.>>12380465CRTs really aren't that beefy and heavy as most people make out. These 2000s sets are very light. Also it doesn't really matter what it's made of as much as it matters how it's fastened and put together.
>>12380483It is in an eyesore sort of way. But yeah, my personal rule is to hide or minimize cords and other junk clashing with other junk.>>12380483>CRTs really aren't that beefy and heavy as most people make out.The ones before the 2000 models aren't. I think it had to do with lead, as in, some earlier models had it as it wasn't illegal at the time, so those weigh more. Old microwaves are also like that, heavy as an elephant because of lead shielding.
>>12380510Yeah pre 2000s it's also just generally all the parts are bigger and beefier. I'm not sure the exactly when it was but sometime around the year 2000 is when capacitors shrunk down considerably as well. So your old 80s and 90s sets were usually made of heavier materials wood and earlier plastic molds with bigger electronics and in the 2000s you had thinner better plastic molds and smaller internals.
>>12380440Yeah basically for me, the main reason I went with the racks is because it makes cable management much easier, allows me to move everything into a corner when I'm not using them, and they are expandable as long as I get new shelves. Not a looker, but for my purposes it's pretty much perfect>>12380453And no shoddily made garbage off Temu with garish lights that'll go out in a few months is not a better option. I'm looking for function, not form.
>>12381568There's so much better cheaper function over form stuff you can still get that's not that ugly ass poor person wire shelf shit lmao. Your house looks like you live with your grandparents and smells bad and you live off ebt and shit or whatever and other kids wouldn't ever want to come to your house except to buy your adhd medication.It's fucking embarrassing.
How do I use these do fix vertical convergence? Rotating them just messes with horizontal convergence
I'm >>12380442I adjusted the yoke and fixed the bowing/rotated image, and adjusted the G2 and focus to fix that tint/blue line issue. Now all I gotta do is fix the convergence and that discoloration on the right side (purity issue?) And I think it'll look great. How do I do that?
>>12382426it's fine, calm down, bud
>>12382735Nah, fuck you.
>>12382736i'm sorry your father didn't give you enough positive attention growing up. i've heard a weighted blanket can be comforting for people with your type of mental problems, maybe try that?
>>12382739You're projecting actually. My dad not only loves me and gives me positive attention we're best friends and regularly interact and hang out together. My dad is the shit.On the other hand you clearly live with your parents/grandparents in a shithole which is extremely obvious from the decor and wire racks lmao.
>>12382720Did you disconnected the TV and make sure to prevent any electrical shock when moving the yoke? i would not have done that in your place
I'm too far down the CRT rabbit hole. There's no turning back.
>>12382796No, I adjusted the yoke with the TV turned on, because I'm not a pussy ass faggot. You need to be able to see the picture while you adjust.
>>12382786i'm not the wire rack guy. good luck with your miserable life though.
>>12382863My life isn't miserable at all though. Nice try, in fact, I probably have one of the most comfortable lives of anyone in this thread.
>>12383517>see classic games incorrectly>only as much as a beater car!
>component and composite input switches are still manufactured and widely available on Amazon>if you want an S-Video input switch you gotta search ebaywhat's going on here? was it really that rare of a cable type?
>>12383729>incorrectly0/10
>>12384075Keep on seething in a free world!*continues to accurately play the old games on my 1980 Sampo that cost $0.00*
>>12384090Who's seething? You're wrong and I can still have free and cheap CRTs lmao.
>>12384168>Who's seething?You. >lmaoSure, buddy. To be frank I'd be a little tender too if I fell for the PVM meme.
>>12384221What exactly did I fall for?
>>12384254Nice GE. Don't see too many of those anymore.And you fell for the PVM meme. I already told you, but there you go. Sorry you spent so much.
>>12384260>fell for the PVM meme>don't even own a PVMWhatever you say man
>>12384268Then don't reply for someone else then?
>>12384278I never did? I'm the one who posted the hilarious price on that PVM from marketplace.
>>12384281Do you know how not to reply if it doesn't apply to you? Good God, man.
>>12384291...you've been replying to me this whole time. Who else are you talking to? Maybe next time don't click on my post and @ me you dumb mother fucker.
>yell at anon>find out you're wrong>place blame on him>??????>profit
>>12384323This board is turbo dead. RIP in pieces.
>>12384360All generals devolve into this kind of back and forth shit flinging.
>>12383745i feel like it was more rare in the US because super vhs never really caught on
Sharteens ruin yet another general
>>12384365I remember s-video being on everything in the 2000s, including GPUs and adapters in GPU boxes and cables to AV gear and stuff.
>>12383745you dont want the chinese ones on amazon that aren't powered. look on ebay for ones that you have to plug into an outlet, otherwise you're wasting your time using s-video because the switch box degrades the signal.
Damn that guy was retarded
Damn that guy is mad.
>>12384757>>12384784why don't you faggots go find a room to kiss eachother in and stop shitting up the general?
>>12384787You're right. I'm just glad I didn't fall for the PVM meme.
>>12384784Probably because you bought a PVM
My mom still owns a widescreen CRT, i love her for thatWhat are the negatives of these? i heard they have input lag similar to flatscreens due to internal processing, but at least they have the visuals of a CRT, right?
>>12385861>input lagImperceptible.
>>12385870so the only difference between a widescreen CRT and a 4:3 CRT is a tiny amount of input lag? coolIs there any measurement comparing the input lag in both, and also comparing it to a flatscreen TV?
>>12385861what model?
>>12385893Depends, some do some kinda processing not as much as you think, we had a Panasonic Tau up until about 2017 that did 1080i and up to the Wii U it all looked fucking gorgeous on it
>>12385861Widescreen CRTs don't introduce input lag by themselves. They're still analog SD TVs.Only HD CRTs do, and it's only a subset of widescreen TVs. There were very few of those in Europe, in NA they were more popular. You gotta check what that particular TV is, look for HDMI inputs or something.
Sup /crt/?I just picked this up from a church rummage sale this morning and just got it home, need to clean it still before hooking anything up. It's from '88, never had a TV this old, I'm fully expecting it to not work or have terrible geometry or something, will update in about an hour.
>>12386454keep me posted
>>12386454model number?
>>12385110>Ill Monstro doxxes himself with his ugly mug.
>>12386458I get it you don't care>>12386468CTJ-2062R-1Low and behold, it's shit. I don't know why I was expecting any better. It's dim, the colors are all over the place, it's blurry etc. but the case is so clean and it has fake shitty wood grain. Should I use it to teach myself how to recap and try to fix/mod old TVs? I only paid $10 for it so I don't mind if I accidentally sacrifice it.
>>12386532>It's dimTurn up the picture and brightness a bit. It's fine.
>>12386539It's cranked up all the way already, should I try to repair it or is this just how TVs were back then?
>>12386554Oh then it's fucked in some way. Be careful capping that thing, anon.
>>12386469at least he's got a proper hair do.
>>12386554you did the brightness but did you adjust the contrast, no tvs didnt look like that unless someone fucked with it, try plugging in something else and see if its the same
>>12386554turn up the brightness pot on the flyback transformer
my panasonic crt playing the little mermaid vhs
>>12386801soulful
>>12386532looks like one of the color guns is dead
>>12380427This is what I'd like to do eventually! What's the weight of that TV?
>>12386851Doesn't matter those racks hold a shit ton of weight.
>>12386905I've been using one for 4 years, it doesn't inspire a ton of confidence but it works. The package said the rack could hold 600lbs safely.
>>12386925Yeah I use them for my guitar amp heads and it's solid as a rock.
>>12386942post pictures of your setup or it didnt happen.
>>12386953Old pic but here you go
>>12386851It weighs 73 pounds according to CRT Database.
>>12386964holy fuck! Nice, man.Is that a PVM there?
What's the most aesthetic CRT in your opinion?
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>>12388769Yeah, it's a JVC BM-1900SU
>>12388841Magnavox PR1312 C121 because it was my first TV.
What speakers do you pair with your TVs that don't mess with the magnetism?
Not quite side of the road yet but my elderly neighbors have a pretty decent looking CRT in their garage collecting dust. I’m thinking about offering to take it for them since my guess is they straight up can’t move it (the man uses a walker to move around). It’s a Sharp either 27” or 32” pic related.
>>12380430y're a very practical solution. But I just can't stand them for my own personal setup. They just look so ugly. But at the same time, it's become downright impossible to find something suitable
>>12380465 /less visible depending on brightness. Will adjusting G2 also fix the color tint issue, or is that another problem entirely?
>>12389557They make literally no sense for a CRT setup unless your CRT setup is also your shop or garage lol.Imagine going to someone's house and they have wireracks of old shit next to their furniture like this dipshit has. I bet their house smells like dog or cat excrement and smoke.
>>12382426So much projection in a single post. Tell your therapist about this shit, not us.
>>12385861holy shit that cat is fucking huge
>>12389634There's no projection at all. It's mostly from life experience of people I have met, especially other kids when I was younger going to their houses.My house isn't amazing, but I'm pretty proud of the things I've done in it desu. Also my grandparents unfortunately have all passed away :(
>>12389645Theres a very low chair behind it, its probably misleading
>>12388841Bang and Olufsen MX series
>>12389557>>12389602Lol okay, if you are samefagging by copying another anon's post just to trudge your shitty trolling attempt back up then this would be one of the most desperate attempts at rage baiting I've seen on this board in a while.>>12380440
Chunky 240p scanlines on a computer CRT
Got this bitch for free, I believe everything works I just have to clean it up and probably calibrate some shit. Wasn't even looking for it, how good did I do?
>>12390149model number?
>>12390553kv-21fs140
>>12390064I'm going insane
>>12388841Sadly I missed out on owning one of these many years ago. Now most of them are so old they ended up in landfill or coomlectors are hoarding them in their reddit tier mancaves and wont let go or sell them for ridiculous prices.
>>12390603whythis is 320x240 @ 120 Hz since a computer monitor cant really go 60 Hz at 240pI guess its fine since its still a multiple of 60 Hz ?
>>12390650>>12388841I wish I had a time machine so I could go back and be a rich guy lottery winner living in japan during the 80s bubble economy then I would hoard all the crts for myself.
>>12390650I've managed to snatch one of these locally a few weeks ago. Never thought I'd even see one in person, and here it is in my hands. Still needs some servicing, but I'm working on it.
>>12388841I miss late 90s colorful transparent plastic
>>12390669lucky bastard... not that im jealous or anything... also please get your consoles off the floor.
>>12390650Are you a third worlder or something? You can still obtain one in the U.S for cheap or free relatively easily.
>>12390698>please get your consoles off the floorThat was only temporary when I was testing it with different hardware because it didn't want to sync to some consoles' RGB signal. Now all my consoles are neatly placed on the rack that came with the TV, it's very spacious.The setup is not done yet, I need to fix/calibrate a few things on the TV and find a way to manage the cables better. I'm also waiting for the TV tuner that's supposed to fit on the top shelf (the Profeel is only a monitor by itself). Of course it's useless today, but I wanted to have the complete set. I'll post a proper pic when I'm done working on it.
>>12390698Why? Lmao, where do you think we put them in the 90s?
If I turn brightness down and turn contrast up is that safe? Or will it lessen the life of the tube?
>>12391305It's fine, but by contrast do you mean "picture"?
>>12390149Greetings from Marcos Bistro, did some geometry changes in the service menu, had no idea how much you can change in it although I just did some minor tweaks. Next step is probably getting a component cable.
>>12391307No, I mean the contrast knob.
>>12388841nice legs, nigga
>>12390650>>12390663>>12390669I got a 27" Trinitron ProFeel with its matching stand for $20 AUD cash circa 2013. I think it's from 1989.
