Anyone get a SuperStation? Also MiSTER thread I guess.
Not interested since I already have a Mister Pi and I would need the docking station to have a SNAC port, plus there is no way to go dual-RAM on it. I like to tinker so a simplified consolized version of the MiSTer doesn't appeal to me.The built-in PSX SNAC and all the built in analog ports are neat though, as well as the option to load from actual PSX disks, but I already installed an ODE in my real PSX to avoid using physical disks anymore so...
>>12380179Fair. I just wanted a plug-n-play solution since I'm coming over from emulation handhelds and wanted something to put my SD card in and hook up to my TV. The MiSTER Pi looks cool but its never in stock and Taki said he is working on SS1 orders for the time being.
>>12380174How expensive it is? Do they ship outside the US?
>>12380174Quick question, I know MIGHT sound stupid but I really need to know.Will this or any Mister devices load up video media such as MP4 and mkv? Would be neat to have it as an universal media player too
>>12380191$200, they ship all over the world from China. There's a $45 dock add-on that adds the USB hub and a DVD drive that will play PS1 games and any other discs really
>>12380195I don't have mine yet to confirm but I don't think there is a core for strictly playing videos. There are addons for streaming your Plex or using VLC in desktop Linux, but I'm not sure how well they work
>>12380216>There are addons for streaming your Plex or using VLC in desktop Linux, but I'm not sure how well they workI've heard they're kinda shitty which why I never got a MiSTer since my emulation machine doubles as a media center PC using Kodi.
>>12380174>check out webpage https://retroremake.co/>sold out>batch 3>sold out>FUCK>Shitbay flippers will jerk it off 4-10 times its priceI HATE THIS WORLD!
>>12380647Nobody will care to buy a flipped Pi because there are several other options and the Pi itself is basically a clone of the original. It's not like Analogue's crap where they are the only ones making them.
>>12380174I was looking at getting a ps1 and an ode but that would be like 300 bucks so I'm considering getting this instead
How do you guys deal with gate burn-in? I rotate cores every 30 minutes or so but im wondering if theres a better solution
>>12381109what?
>>12381120Just a troll who has been posting this made-up nonsense in mister threads for years. There is no such thing as gate burn-in.
>>12380647Doesn't say it's sold out for me in the US, also Retro Remake seems to be promising that this unit is frequently restocked unlike their previous projects, but of course that could always change...
>>12380174>MiSTER thread I guess.does the mister have emulation pausing or is that not possible with an fpga?
>>12381441What do you mean, as in if you can pause the emulation on a FPGA? Yes you can, though not every core supports it, but many have the option to pause the emulation if you bring up the menu.
>>12381109I just went back to flash carts. For the price I spent for my mister and the one to replace that one once it broke I could have just bought every flash cart and every system I want to play. Buy once cry once I should have.
>>12381464The only reason I prefer emulation nowadays is having a button on my controller that instantly pauses the emulation so I can read some fast moving text. If some exposition slips past me as im reading I spiral out of control.
>>12381469>For the price I spent for my mister and the one to replace that one once it broke I could have just bought every flash cart and every system I want to play.Sounds like bullshit, unless you are talking about bootleg chinkware flashcarts that can't play games the originals can. A FX Pak alone costs more than just about every version of the MiSTer except for building your own from the original Terasic board. And even a FX Pak won't let you run all the SNES games the MiSTer's SNES core can, as well as has less accurate SA-1 emulation.A non-bootleg NES and SNES flashcart alone will be about the price of two Misters.
>>12380174I've been dreaming of a device that just has composite outputs built right in so I bought a blue one but I'm in batch 3 so it's going to take months to ship
are the chink ones bad?
>>12380647maybe they don't ship to your location? It also lets me preorder in Germany, not that I want to>>12381109>>12381403kek
I'm just hype for that new UI to be released. As much as I love my mister, the UI is probably the one sore spot about it. Its functional, but its pretty shitty.
>>12382068Comparisons?
>>12382070https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ER1rDxXTA
>>12382071mhhh both GUIs dont make it for me.
>>12381846pls repsond
>>12381846The QMTech one is considered the best of the AliExpress ones, idk about the HamGeek or any other options on there. Probably the best and cheapest option until Mister Pi is back in stock.
>>12381109Got my Mister about 4 months ago, I think I'm already experiencing this because I've been mainly playing PS1 but after long sessions I try to switch cores to either the NES or Genesis and it will lock up within a couple minutes of gameplay but the menu button still works and I can only do a hard reset. After doing a cold reboot it goes back to normal, or if I avoid playing the PS1 core for hours it won't happen at all.
>>12382415What are you talking about? That's physically impossible. Field gates aren't mechanical they can't burn/lock in a permanent state.
>>12381846>>12382304No, currently one of the best ones is basically a chink one, Taki's Mister Pi from RetroRemake.That being said, the QM version is mostly good as long as you have no desire to tinker or upgrade it, see here:https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12368313/#12375810Basically, the QMTech uses a different pinout for it's GPIO pins than a standard Terasic board, or Taki's board. This makes it incompatible with any standard MiSTer accessories that use those pins such as the Analog I/O board. It DOES come with it's own Analog I/O board, but this not only means you can't use your own or a Digital I/O board.This becomes a problem if you want to go Dual-RAM, since you can't use an Analog I/O board with that, but the board doesn't just contain analog outputs but also the SNAC port, user buttons, LED indicators, and a second (though now obsolete) MicroSD slot. With a standard MiSTer you could replace that with a Digital I/O board to still retain all those non-analog features, or with the modern version of the Analog I/O board there is a small piece you can remove that basically converts it to a Digital I/O board so you keep all the other features while disabling the analog. None of these are an option for QMTech so if you want to go Dual-RAM you lose the SNAC port, the buttons, and everything else on the top board that you would have to completely remove to plug in a second RAM stick.As long as you don't want to try going dual-RAM or tinker/upgrade it, the QMTech one is perfectly fine. Otherwise, I would wait for a Taki one or just build a Terasic one.
>>12382419Don't feed the obvious troll
>>12381109>>12382415whats the fucking point of these anyways if it hangs up itself?
>>12382437Kek to you
>>12380179What real use is there in having the dual-RAM? Very tempted to order the SSO as-is translucent blue. But if there's any real downside to no dual-RAM expandability maybe I second guess my order and opt for the Mister Pi stack (not as aesthetic unfortunately).
>can't into retro achievements right into the bin
>>12384150achievements are for losers that suck at life
>>12384142There are only two real uses for it, and one of them likely does not apply to you or really most others here. Generally single-RAM setups are the default and what most MiSTer development targets, currently there is no core that does not have a single-RAM version, which is the default. You actually have to intentionally put the dual-RAM cores on your system.First one is for development, it helps a lot when developing a core. This likely won't apply to almost anyone here.Second is for the cores that support dual-RAM can have better accuracy and/or fix issues. Currently there are two cores that support dual-RAM, Atari Jaguar and Sega Saturn. The Jaguar core is still a WIP but there are some games that won't run as correctly on single RAM, though this has a chance to be fixed. Second one is the Sega Saturn core, and the reason for most who are going dual-RAM. The dev of the Saturn core has optimized the everliving daylights out of both the single and dual-RAM cores but the DE-10 has too many limits to allow for full Saturn accuracy on single-RAM. There are several games that have additional slowdown in single-RAM that is not present on real hardware or on dual-RAM, most of these are 3D fighting games but some of them are notable games like NiGHTS or Burning Rangers. There is an option called Fast Timings you can enable to try to mitigate this, but it makes the core less accurate and can break some games. Grandia also experiences graphical glitches in single RAM.There is also potential that some in-development arcade cores like Mortal Kombat and CPSIII might require dual-RAM, but it's not set in stone yet.There was a dual-RAM version of the PSX core, but IIRC it's obsolete now.Basically, dual-RAM right now is mostly for how interested you are in Sega Saturn games. Gen 6 systems themselves were considered impossible on the MiSTer a few years ago so them being on there are all is almost a miracle, much less all of them having single-RAM versions.
>>12384142>>12384302Oh, and this is not dual-RAM related but also, if you care about using original controllers/accessories on the SSO then you will need to get the dock, because the SNAC port on the SSO is hard-wired into the PSX ports on the front of the SSO and the breakout to use SNAC adapters for other console's controllers is in the dock.
>>12384308can't you just get a usb adapter for other controllers you want to use?
>>12384393USB adapters are very different from using SNAC. USB adapters essentially just turn the controller into a USB controller, this both adds latency and can break compatibility with non-standard controllers or other accessories.The SNAC port is essentially turning into the controller port of the original console, and is wired directly into the FPGA electronically the way the controller ports on the console would have been. This allows you to both use any accessory that the original hardware would have been able to use with that port, including things such as light guns (if you have a CRT), and do it with no additional lag.SNAC adapters can also be very cheap and simple since they basically have no components on them, just a USB port on one end and the controller port on the other, with just a level shifter going between the adapter and SNAC port if you are using a 5volt system.
>>12384302>>12384308>>12384431ty anon, luckily I'm not too big on Saturn but CPSIII is very tempting. I'll just stick with the SSO base console and get the dock if needs be. But then again all I'm missing in terms of controllers is the SNES and it'd be nice to use all original controllers if I already have them.Really wished the CD drive would operate like a real PS1 where it reads data realtime instead of for only caching and launching images. Replaying Monster Rancher 2 and summoning live monsters with my current day CD collection is just too good to be true (...until I service the drive of an old thrift store find ps1)Depending on how CPSIII support shapes up, chances are I'll end up with whichever hardware stack/solution runs it.
>>12384620>Really wished the CD drive would operate like a real PS1 where it reads data realtime instead of for only caching and launching images.I thought it did? I recall at first the disk drive was just for dumping a disk image, but then the claim was changed that it plays the game off the disk directly. Was that claim changed back?
>>12384431snac on my dick
>>12384660You think you are so funneh?
>>12384660
>>12384658>>12384658Oh that's news to me, good news even! Last I came across was something like a twitter or YouTube video showing the one-time dump and load process (long while ago).
Should I get one for nes our should I just get a famicom and flash cart?
>>12385482The NES core is pretty much more accurate than even using a flash cart, since flash carts actually introduce subtle changes in behavior. Not sure about the mapper situation but I believe the core supports more mappers than flashcarts too.
>>12385517oh wow, that's impressive, thanksI think that in conjuction with a ps1 and ode being more expensive than the super station has convinced me to get one
>>12382420QMTech plays nice with SNAC?
>>12385701I wanna get a Super Station, the fact that it has both HDMI and Composite 240p will make it a blessing for capturing footage while playing on a CRT while streaming.
>>12385746Yes, just that you can't use SNAC on it if you want to go dual-RAM because that is where the SNAC port is, and due to it's custom pinout you can't just replace it with a Digital I/O board. There are newer designs of the Analog I/O board that let you basically convert it to the equivalent of a digital board so you can keep the SNAC and other ports when going dual-RAM, but the QMTech MiSTers use the older Analog board design that don't support that.(Picrel, the RetroRemake Analog I/O board that comes in two pieces, removing that L-shaped piece disables the analog outputs but lets you install a second RAM module without disabling the entire board)>>12385898Yeah, MiSTers are great for that as long as you aren't using a dual-RAM core. All single-RAM MiSTers can output both analog and HDMI at the same time, but the SuperStation makes it a bit easier in that it has all the ports built in so you would not need to get an additional breakout cable for it.
>>12385957Which are the Dual-RAM cores and what differences are in performance?
>>12386129I talked about that in >>12384302
>>12386170Thanks.
Was going to get this but decided to hold out for the M64. Fuck, getting harder to wait...
>>12386407I was looking at the A3D and M64, I like the idea of using real carts and the onboard scaling is nice, but I only have a little over half a dozen N64 carts from my childhood and a SummerCart. Maybe if I had a larger collection it would be worth it, but considering a MiSTer could play the entire N64 library and dozens of other libraries and can be had for cheaper than the N64-specific FPGA consoles, I'd rather go for that. Still gonna keep up with the M64 news because who knows, but God I wish they got rid of that giant ugly button.
Does the latency between Bluetooth and 2.4ghz controllers really make a difference on Mister? I have the 8bitdo M30 and Pro 2 controllers, but they're both Bluetooth. Not sure if I should just use wires or buy a 2.4ghz one or something.
>>12386407Not sure how these are related other than both being FPGA based. The SuperStation is a PSX-themed MiSTer that runs games off ROM/disk dumps (or PSX games off the disk if you have the optional dock) for many different systems, the M64 is a device just for playing N64 games but can run the games off the original carts.The M64 is using a modified version of the MiSTer's N64 core and is open, but it uses a different FPGA so if you were hoping to use it like a MiSTer the cores would need to be ported, but many of them likely will not be simply because there are hundreds of them.If you only care about N64 then yeah, the M64 could make more sense since it has a more powerful FPGA so it could potentially have more accurate N64 emulation, but if you want to play systems other than N64 as well then unless being able to play off original carts is a big deal to you a MiSTer based device makes more sense for now.>>12386828>but God I wish they got rid of that giant ugly buttonI thought that was a knob to navigate the menu?
order a qmtech to play with fuck it price is right
This seems like a great option. The only concern I have is the single RAM though I don't know how much of an issue it would actually be in practice.
>>12387594Why would you need a knob on the console to navigate a menu? Sorry, I don’t understand a bunch of this shit
>>12386985Would like to know too
>>12380174I don't understand why Sony doesn't scoop up this TakiUdon to make PS1 and PS2 FPGAs for them. They could be making real fucking money and instead it's this niche rare expensive item.Of course I want a SuperStation. But I'm willing to pay like, $100 tops. I'm not getting one anytime soon or possibly ever
>>12388489>why Sony doesn't scoop up this TakiUdon to make PS1 and PS2 FPGAs for them1. Because Sony already tried the PS Mini and it was a total failure, they literally had to give them away with PS5s to get rid of them because people were still not buying them even at big discounts.2. The SuperStation is still just a MiSTer in a different shell and with an upcoming fancier UI, they would have to go through all the hurdle of licensing open source software. Taki just made a consolized MiSTer based on a PSOne design, he didn't create the PSX core, he's not even the person to go to for such a thing.3. FPGAs are not cheap, ARM CPUs are. That was the main driving force with all the mini consoles a few years ago, they can just slap a cheap ARM cpu on there to emulate 30-40 year old games for cheap, the cost would be more in licensing the games and manufacturing the plastic. The whole reason those were being made was because it was a cheap way to cash in on nostalgia.4. 99% of people who buy such mini consoles could not care less, or would even notice, if the emulation was inaccurate or had latency inherent to software emulation.5. The small enthusiast market that DOES care, that's what places like Analogue and Modretro cater to.6. PS2 games are significantly bigger than PS1. Even PS1 games are significantly bigger than the other mini consoles based on cart systems. You could still fit a decent amount on some of the smallest flashROMs you can get for pennies... PS2 games however would require actual decent amounts of storage.7. You are NOT going to get PS2 on FPGA anytime soon, not on any FPGA that does not cost as much as a car. Getting just PS1 on that $100-200 FPGA was nearly a miracle, no affordable FPGA that can handle a PS2 is going to exist anytime soon.>Of course I want a SuperStation. But I'm willing to pay like, $100 topsThen just get a Pi because you have no idea why FPGA devices are not cheap.
>>12380174What's the point of this if it doesn't play discs?Just for looks?
>>12388861>I can't read.
>>12388874So just for looks, thanks
>>12388884He was referring to you fag
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This threads just come and go......With all seriousness, what is the wait gap between restocking?
>>12391389Taki's company seems to be marketing the SuperStation One as a product that will actually be frequently restocked and shipped out on a regular basis, unlike their other projects. People who emailed the company or asked on Discord about the current SS1 batches were told everything up to and including Batch 3 is expected to be shipped by the end of March and some people got their Founder's Edition orders in the last few weeks. Things are probably slowed down for Chinese New Year but will probably speed up by the end of the month They also said the Mister Pi will be back in stock eventually but they are focusing on SS1 for now. No idea about the Switch OLED screen mods.
>>12380195theres something like that I vaguely remember hearing on Lu's Retro Source's youtube. theres a project using the 3do core to play vintage vidya commercials like a sort of screensaver
>>12384431lmfao you really this retarded you just said "added latency"??? Like, no. Fuck off. Stop repeating nonsense. Everything you said is rightwing brainwashed levels of delusion, not helping any one at all.
>>12391687I'm not even right wing but you're retarded
