This was the peak.
>>12381365Frlg and GSC are better if you don't care about 21 battles in a row autism
>>12381390>FRLGLOLLMAO
>>12381365pokemon rse allegedly takes place in kyuusyuu but as the series came to the GBA the japanese aesthetic felt pretty neutered. Slateport is supposed to be Nagasaki? There are a couple cool landmarks but theres a desert route give me a break.
>>12381365I'm sorry, but Pokémon peaked on the how-is-that-still-not-retro handheld (the DS), and it's a fact, not an opinion.
>>12381390fpbp
>>12381365Pokemon is a slope, nothing ever matched the magic of the originals.
>>12381703DS will never be retro
>>12381812Explain
I didn't like the exploration much in Emerald but it's worth playing for the Frontier.I never got the gold symbols
Loved scene with rayquaza
>>12381814I'm a zoomer and I don't want to feel old
Back to your containment board faggotPosting Pokémon outside of vp needs to be a bannable act
>>12381365I preordered this game at toys r us
>>12381831Use to be many years ago. Obviously they relaxed on the rules. They don't want to be in /vp/ because they'd need to subject themselves to one another.
Littleroot Town... Home...
I prefer Ruby and Sapphire to Emerald
>>12381827I played the game for the first time last year and that shit was cool as fuck
>>12381830I feel ya. I'm in my mid 20s now and I wish I could go back to when I was 17-18.
>>12381365Gen 3 > 1 remake > 4 > 2 remake > 1 > 2
>>12381841>>12381831Trying too hard
>>12381365>>>/vp/
>>12382513seethe
>>12381365I agree. it was my first pokemon game, and I played it until my GBA broke. I don't think any other pokemon game has lived up to it. It just has so much content. >>12382072basically the same game, but emerald has more animations and the battle frontier. i can live without Zangoose
>>12381390fpwp
>>12381365It was to me.>>12382745I started out on Gen 1 (in fact, emulating it before it was released here), and Ruby was still my most favorite and enjoyable Pokémon.
>>12381365This game's music sucked though. I really don't understand why people love the shitty compressed trumped soundfont this game had. The themes also just suck. D/P/Pt had much better music by comparison.
>>12381365I remember everyone on /v/ hating these games back in the day because you couldn't transfer your mons from Gen1/2
>>12382745I don't like the overuse of green in the UI and player character designI don't like going through both Aqua and Magma hideouts when they have nearly identical teamsI don't like Scott interrupting you constantlyI don't like the main story ending on a wet fart and then getting a level 70 Rayquaza before the Elite FourI like Pickup being broken
>>12383353>I CANNOT enjoy this new Pokemon game unless I carry all my "bros" over!Was it autism?
>>12383372yeah
>>12383372Missing 100+ playable pokemon sucks shit and shouldn't be defended.
>>12383372Yes. The whole premise of "everyone's here!" was Pokemon's main draw, but also its downfall. They were giving themselves more and more work with each gen, so there will eventually be a tipping point. To be honest I never gave a shit if I couldn't see Sentret in gen 3 or whatever.
>>12381365this is when the series started getting more "creepy cute" instead of "cool cute"
>>12382080peak pokemon game on gba
>>12381365That's not Pokemon Gold
>>12383561/thread
>>12381365I love the idea of Pokémon, the games are highly nostalgic for me. The games are visually so pleasing. But they just aren’t fun games, I’m sad to admit. They’re way too easy and mindless, the density of gameplay is too low. You make so few meaningful choices each minute, it just feels like going through the motions every time. I so wish this weren’t the case, but for me it really is. I need something more stimulating and immediate. I think this is a problem with jrpgs in general, and Pokemon is even more simple and streamlined most of them
>density of gameplaylmao
not even turn based rpgs for children are safe from performative shmup bullshit
>>12383920It’s mindless baby shit for 8 year olds, sorry
>>12381365I always burn out and never finish gen 3 games but it has my favorite engine.
>>12381390>GSC are betterbahahahahahaha>Frlgalso no but better than GSC for sure
>>12381434Pokemon is a fantasy series.The fantastic elements of Hoenn have earned it the nigh undisputed title of best designed region.
>>12381434Additionally, there's evidence that the Japanese Pokemon maps were actually not inspired merely by Japanese lands.
>>12381703zoom zoom zoom
>>12384057basically Sugimori's confession that Gen 3 was when he started to overdesign shit
>>12381827
>>12384057>>12384058kill yourself asap my man, unrelated to the contents of your replies im speaking directly to you.
>>12383956You'd get filtered by the Battle Frontier where you're expected to interact with advanced mechanics like IVs, EVs and proper teambuilding for coverage and synergy
>>12384064>overdesignno such thing
>>12384067I always love seeing anally annihilated impotent triggered toddy seethe
>>12381703The DS only released 22 years ago, that's practically yesterday.
>>12381831>>12381841/vp/ was never a containment board
>>12381993the best starting town theme in the serieshttps://youtu.be/im6tbN9SZXs
>>12383260>This game's music sucked thoughnope>really don't understand why people love the shitty compressed trumped soundfont this game had. The themes also just suck.none of this is truegain taste
>>12383480>this is when the series started getting more "creepy cute" instead of "cool cute"
>>12381390>>12382120>>12381710Anyone who thinks FRLG are the best or among the best pokemon games are posers trying to fit in the genwunner crowd but are too afraid to actually touch RBY.
>The johto hater schizo is hereThread ruined.>>12383480What's creepy about Hoenn?
>>12384109>Kanto is good>FRLG is modernized Kanto>therefore FRLG is one of the best Pokemon gamesit's simple logicIII > IV > I > II > the restnaturally FRLG ends up #3 game
>>12383861My biggest problem with Pokemon is that it's 1 vs 1, this takes out all strategy and it becomes a game of rock paper and scissors.>>12384070That's not hard, that's boring
>>12384113cope
>>12384119>My biggest problem with Pokemon is that it's 1 vs 1, this takes out all strategythen just play Gen III's other gem, Pokemon Colosseum, which is the best Johto game
>>12384117>FRLG is modernized KantoExcept they didn't do that well, so it's just RBY with worse music and different TMs.
>>12381831>>12381841It was never a containment board, you're just a retarded newfag and don't understand how 4chan site rules work. You can post Pokemon outside of /vp/ for the same reasons you can post about Final Fantasy 7 outside of /vrpg/
>>12384119>That's not hard, that's boring>t. coping retardYour best attempt at a Battle Frontier team would get rolled by the Frontier Brains.
>>12384132>Except they didn't do that wellSays who?There are very few things FRLG does worse than the original.They improved the battle and build systems.They improved the graphics.They improved the music.They mostly improved the character design.They improved the artstyle / art direction.They improved the content.There's nary a thing it stacks negatively against the originals.
>>12384109this is not vp, nobody gives a fuck about fitting in some retarded pokemon webtribe.
>>12384152it seems like there are plenty of zoomers who defend johto because hgss was a part of their childhoods
>>12384154you could use this argument for every pokemon gen.
>>12384109Posers would be fags hating on it because Kanto is popular and that makes newgen zoomers mad
>>12384158no because not every gen has a remake thus farin fact, only like 4 remake games are-so relevant as of right nowfrlg late millennialshgss zoomersoras zoomerslgpe gen a's
>>12384159only borts do that in 202X
>>12381365
>>12384172are wailord and flygon considered op? i wanted to use them in a future pt :<
>>12384194that's not about mechanical design but aesthetic designthey are far from overpowered for a playthroughblaziken/swampert, swellow, gardevoir, ludicolo is the easy mode
>>12384149>They improved the battle and build systemsThe only pokemon with abilities worth note in those games that affect how you play the game are the Ghastly and Koffin lines with levitate, Gyarados and Arcanine with intimidate and i guess Meowth with Pick up but that's outside of battle.Even the moveset have barely been improved to spice up the battles besides fighting and flying having more reliable STAB with Brick Break and buffed Wing Attack + Aerial Ace.Normals, Psychics and Water are still the most busted types.Also, effectively Zero double battles outside of the facility no one cares about.>They improved the content.Nobody plays FRLG post game beyond to trade with RSE.
>>12384208>Psychics and Water are still the most busted typesan extremely disingenuous way of saying Starmie specifically is broken
>>12384236Even lower tier Psychics are still really good because nothing but them and Magneton resist them.
>>12384113gardevoir. then the next gen they went even harder with pokefucking lore and more creepy ass shit made by perverted fucking freaks. fucking degenerates took over from gen 3 on.
>>12384121>joe reddick agrees with youso you're wrong
>>12384275>the most famous and influential johto / gen ii related Pokemon fan of all time agrees with mejohtoddies will never learn how to cope with this
>>12384270>NOOO I DON'T WANT MY HECKIN' POKIES TO CARE FOR MEcatfag post
>>12384286Literally who is this person? Did he work on the game?
>>12384345>Literally who is this person?have you tried not being a disgusting newfaggot?think you'd know through that
>>12384345that guy is a faggot retard twitter/redditor that everyone hates because he's retarded
>>12384349I've been on 4chan in general since about 2008, and I've been a regular on this board since it fucking opened, and I've never once heard of this guy. Is he more famous on /vp/ or something? I basically never go there.The only way this person's opinion on Pokémon can count for fucking anything at all is if he was a developer on the games in question (and that's certainly no guarantee in itself), otherwise he's just some random faggot on Twitter.
>>12384361you have to visit reddit and twitter a lot to know about him
>>12384149The IV/EV system is absolutely bad for all the pokemon that were designed with DVs in mind (arguably not even well designed for the gen 3 pokemon), most of them are mixed attackers and the new system does this allow them to do their purpose without compromising either side.
>>12384387having to make a decision between sheer power vs versatility is a good thing. Makes the game a lot more interesting
>>12384387wrong
>>12384064Gen 2 was underdesigned
>>12384441The problem here is that you're can't really control that beyond catching another pokemon or breeding, both of which are tedious to go through.
>>12384480this
The Pokemon Community as a whole is aware that Hoenn is the actual peak of the franchise for legit fans of the series.
>>12384489there are ev reset berries. The IV thing has been a problem since DVs so nothing really changed on that front
>>12384496>faggots on redditgen 3 confirmed gay
>>12384498Can't change the nature though
>>12384505every poll everywhere confirms hoenn is the best
>>12384491not a single bad pokemon in that pic
>>12384525toddies sure do love their merch-bait plush toy design
>>12384529just add some dumb spikes all over them and you have your loved gen 3 design.
>>12384517try somewhere that isn't trannies and faggots
>>12384517gen 3 added all of the autistic grinding forever for stats shit so of course all of the retards are going to be on the internet voting on it because it's for fucking retarded no life retarded losers
>>12384517What's most surprising to me is gen 6 being eliminated immediately, which makes me think they're ranking them based on Pokemon designs and nothing else?
>>12384557gen 6 is actually one of the worst games ever made period
>>12384559No way, what came after is actually demonstrably worse
>>12384540Nidoking is a gen 3 pokemon?
>>12384109Gen 1 is way better than Gen 2 and the remakes are a straight improvement over the originals. Going back to the artstyle, lack of color, and lack of running shoes of Red/Blue is hard after Ruby/Sapphire. Firered/Leafgreen was exactly what we wanted, the iconic Gen 1 except much more polished with tons of improvements that brings in line with Gen 3's style.
>>12384574Jolteon is a gen 3 Pokemon
>>12384584no the remakes gave it faggot graphics that look fucking gay and made it more fucking retarded so really the remakes are just for retarded faggots so it's worse
>>12384591in non-schizo speak, please.
>>12384593the remakes are for faggots because they made it look fucking GAY and made it more RETARDED for FAGGOT RETARDS
>>12384591looks like you need a diaper change
>>12384605said the faggot baby who plays the somehow even more babyish fucking gay looking remake that also makes it more fucking retarded
>>12384574>>12384590owned that toddy faggot (redundant)
>>12384557>>12384562to understand why gen vi was voted out first, you have to actually have been there and conscious when it was cgit's the simple fact that gen vi was received kindly mostly in contrast to gen v; people appreciated that xy weren't outright offensive like bw and were actually enjoyablebut at the same time, it was by no means a perfect game nor on par with the classics; so although it was largely embraced in its own time, it was left as a product of its time rather than held onto as some gem by the broader publicgen vi, or more specifically xy, does not have a large and dedicated fanbase like most of the other gens do; you can see that that's literally the case because the latest nugens were the next to be eliminated afterward, which you may have expected to go first but hey recency bias and all thattl;dr there aren't many if any hardcore gen vi fans even though it's still got a mostly positive reputation with everyone except borts, so nobody was voting for it to not get eliminated
>>12384584no lies detected
>>12384625I'm so glad they made everything look gay as fuck in the remake. That's so much better to make it look like it's for faggots.
>>12384627me too, schizo
>>12384629I love how fucking gay it looks that's so much better for faggots to enjoy it more
>>12384634I love how helplessly enraged you aresperg hardergen III one
>>12384491I don't think there's any designs I outright hate in Gen 2, it even has some of my very favorites. Well, maybe there is one I'd dislike, but I can't think of any at the moment.>>12384584I'm fine with the lack of color, but running shoes and a categorized inventory were such objective upgrades that it's impossible to earnestly argue otherwise.If there's some romhack out there which added just those things, I'd say that would smooth over the roughest edges.>>12384607>>12384595>>12384591>>12384634You sound like a toddler with AIDS having a tantrum. You understand these games were primarily aged at kids aged 6-12 and that they were widely advertised with cartoons, comics, and toys, right? The games were gonna get chock full of color the moment it was technologically viable.Nevermind playing it on a Super Game Boy.
wow they made it look so fucking faggoty in gen 3 that's so great
>>12384270>>12383480>>12384540Hypno kidnaps people to use as cattle for its dream consumption.Alakazam literally had the pentagram on its sprite in the original Red/Green.Scyther is literally said to kill its prey by slicing them to bits.Every fucking trivia about the Ghastly is edgy as shit, as well as Mewtwo's origins.I have no idea where this idea of gen 3 being when Pokemon turned "try-hard edgy" came from.
>>12384591>>12384595>>12384607>>12384627>>12384634>>12384649Is there something you want to tell us? Perhaps about your sexual orientation?
>>12384665creepy as in pervert weird tranny creepy, not as in badass cool edgy creepy
>>12384668yeah I'm straight and gen 3 looks fucking gay as fuck
>>12384668yeah i'm a gay faggot
>>12384669What about Gardevoir is transexual to you exactly?The fact it can be male?Machop line can also be female.
>>12384673Happy for you bro
>>12384665>I have no idea where this idea of gen 3 being when Pokemon turned "try-hard edgy" came from.toddies saw cool designs like Groudon and Rayquaza and Blaziken and decided to start calling gen iii digimon, which they afterward started expanding out to any point they could think of with abandonit didn't matter to them that their fav gen was in all things considered the actual odd man out, but toddies have never been genuous a day in their lives (because it is impossible to defend gen ii on objective grounds at all)
>>12384674it's just gay as fuck why the fuck did all of you play gen 3 for your first ever game where you can actually like this gay as fuck shit
>>12384668Yeah, I think about penises a lot, faggot.
>>12384676>genuouswhy the fuck are there a bunch of 10 year olds in this thread
>>12384682Gen 3 was my third gen, I thought it was the best one so far.
>>12384684>>12384673>>12384675btw i'm a tranny faggot and I love gen 3 because it was my first ever game and I'm fucking gay so I love the fucking gay graphics because it looks so fucking gay which I love
>>12384685you should know
>>12384690So you're a closet gay and trans woman. Big fucking deal, it's 2026.
peep how deranged the average gen III hater is
>>12384694>>12384695yeah i'm a fucking faggot that's why I like gen 3 because it has gay graphics which makes me like it because I love to look at gay as fucking looking shit
>>12384698Yeah yeah you like penises in your mouth. Keep it on topic.
>>12384696Glorious water trumpets.
>>12384707I am on topic we're talking about pokemon and gen 3 and how it's for gay people
>>12384712Can you stop talking about sucking cock for one second in your life? This is why people find you annoying.
>>12384716no I can't because I love gen 3
>>12381365I remember bringing random bullshit to the Frontier and trying stuff out. I never got far. My only symbols were Dome and Pike silver.
>>12381365Yes, only fags would disagree
I thought it was really genuous how they made the graphics look as gay as possible. The Gen 3 games were my first ever games, so that made me love gay-styled games. The gayer the better I say - it's my favorite style. The only reason you wouldn't like it is if you're homophobic and you don't like it just because it's gay.
I didn't realize Johto games made you think about gay sex all the time. I'll stick to straight white male games like Kanto and Hoenn from now on.
>>12384387The IV system is terrible. 6 stats with a range of 31 on each stat? I think the later games eventually made it fairly easy to get 31 in 5/6 stats, which is reasonable, but thats how it should have been. The game devolving to "soft reset over and over to see if you got a good Latios" is absolutely bad game play.Oh yea, then there's natures. Just get fucked and use a hacking device. EVs are different though. They're completely controllable by the player. The time sink is too large I suppose, but it's a game play element that isn't just reloading RNG. I admit, both are pretty bad time sinks, reloading or grinding. Not what you're looking for when playing a game, but one at least asks you play to accomplish the goal.
>>12384387>>12385310DV > IVI would rather be able to max out all stats than play beat the popchyena 100 times autism.Also natures suck shit, in Gen 1 and 2 you catch a geodude and that's it, in gen 3 you catch a geodude and it can be a shitty geodude with a shitty nature
>>12385315I mean DV > EVStill 1 - 16 IVs > 1 - 31 IVs
>>12381390>FRLGFPBP>>12384109FRLG was a lot cozier than RBY
>>12385315You greatly underestimate how long the stat exp grind is. You need to kill the equivalent of 656 Mews to max out stat exp, and there's nothing it has over EVs to speed it up like Macho Brace or the Power items. Both have vitamins, but they have a bigger effect on EVs than stat exp. Minmaxing it for special attackers so they have 0 attack for confusion damage is also unrealistic.
>>12381365Is there anyone who thinks RSE is the best Pokémon game and DIDN'T play it as a child?Because I'm halfway through Emerald right now and it's just alright, I genuinely don't know why it's so celebrated. Is it just nostalgia?
>>12385315I think natures would be fine without the IV system. To me that's what it should have been. It's fully something a kid could figure out without needing an online pokemon stat calculator. How are you supposed to know if you have a good pokemon when it hatches and its level 5? The game telling you it's a certain nature and then you could compare multiple pokemon, you could figure out which each nature does without any outside help.
>>12385369This, IVs are and were always the problem. They're why people back then spent hundreds of hours hatching eggs.
>>12385364replace RSE with any pokemon game and that question is validit's almost like the games are for kids or something
>>12385390>hoard as many rare candy as you can, never use them all game>run around till you get an egg>hatch egg and save game>use all your rare candy on the pokemon>enter stats into an online calculator to try and determine its IVs>reload save to undo losing all your rare candy>repeat endlesslyDoing the battle frontier legit is not fun, cause you essentially have to do this to get max speed IV pokemon. I like gen 3, but to actually get into it and play those battles, you need outside tools/hacks/cheats, or it's just daunting pokemon breeding. And even with perfect IV mons, those battle are seriously tough.
>>12381390/thread
>>12385406I mean yeah I get that, but I played HGSS for the first time last year and preferred it to my childhood games (RBY and FRLG)So is RSE actually good and I'm missing something? Or is everyone who says it's the best Pokémon game just nostalgia blind
I played Emerald for the first time last year too and found the game amazing. I loved the music, this track in particular was very memorable:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfARFF9S5Jg
>>12385413You don't need anywhere near perfect IVs for battle facilities. There's videos of someone getting multiple gold prints in the gen 4 Frontier with 0 IV Pokemon. Game knowledge of the opponent sets and keeping speed thresholds in mind are far more valuable if that's your goal.
>>12385438>gen 4That's not gen 3.
>>12385413>hoard as many rare candy as you can, never use them all game>run around till you get an egg>hatch egg and save game>use all your rare candy on the pokemon>enter stats into an online calculator to try and determine its IVs>reload save to undo losing all your rare candy>repeat endlesslyMan, did you actually do this?You don't have to do any of this. You can give the newly hatched pokemon an exp share, put it in the first slot, challenge one of those trainers in the end game with a high level mon using the Vs. Seeker, switch on first turn to one of your high level mons that can one shot and bam, the pokemon you just bred will grow dozens of levels in one battle, more than enough for you to see if it's IVs are good enough for the Frontier. The EVs you'll get in this one battle won't be a problem since 3 EV points will always be unused anyway.I figured this out the first time I played the game.
>>12385438the people who complain about the frontier cheating use it to cope with sucking at a children's game.>>12385464gen 3 frontier is overall easier. the only shitty facility is the palace, but it's gonna suck for any team.
>>12385438I emphasized speed, and just said with perfect IVs they are tough still, going in blind at least. Speed is just such an important one at time, Im sure you can do it without, but it makes doing them much more manageable. Then you're also saying "knowledge of the opponent sets" which is another form of, I don't want to say cheating, but... outside influence? That kind of feels like cheating though, which then I say, just hack your mons while you're at it, why raise them legit? You didn't learn the enemy builds legit, right? Gamefreak doesn't provide a way to look up all the possible builds you could face off against. If you do that, then you're not approaching the challenge in an honest form. It's like playing a game with a strategy guide the whole time. I guess it comes down someones preference. Which is someone more comfortable with then? Someone may find knowing builds is fine, but hacking mons isn't, fair I guess. Im saying what the game presents and offers you on it's own. I am mocking the need to use a calculator to figure out IVs. I think that's a bad element. The game should tell you that aspect, and later games do. Needing to fully know move sets is also bad to me. You don't need perfect IVs if you use outside knowledge the game doesn't give you. Either way, seems like you need assistance from outside of the game to have a fair shake. Be it calculating your stats to know you have a chance against the enemy or looking up the enemies builds. >>12385465No haha, I have no patience to breed pokemon endlessly for stats, I forgot this part, sure exp share too. At a certain point though it's faster to rare candy them up, gen 3 xp is grueling. Back in the day my friend gave me a perfect IV ditto and I breed that.
By the way, how are pic related? Worth a playthrough? >inb4 not retroWe're allowed to talk about remakes and remasters.
>>12385539>teehee we could just not put the BF in there, but no, you also need a humiliation ritual, goijin Killed the series for actual human beings.
>>12385539absolute garbagei played it because i thought Ruby/Sapphire would be pretty fun with modernized controls and gameplay, and i got something that literally felt MORE archaic than the GBA titlesit's missing content and it offers literally nothing over Emerald. it has one of the ugliest UIs i've ever seen. it doesn't even have "modernized gameplay" all the way through, your character can only move in 8 directions inside buildings. in fact, there's nothing modern about it besides the fact that it's 3D. no QoL fixes, no new features, nothingwe're entering the era where Gen Alphas are getting nostalgic for the Pokémon games they played growing up, so the 3DS titles are getting reappraised. Don't fall for it lmao. They were garbage and ORAS was the worst of the bunch
>>12385525>learning enemy movesets and stats is cheating so i'll continue to waste my life breeding for no reasonit's called the factory, retard. stop using "cheating" as an excuse.
>>12385539>square looking shitty region instead of a proper normal looking region like XY so it totally failed to deliver an improved look>no BF>retarded redesigns >free legendary midgame for no reason They are fucking awful, just play Emerald
>>12385539ORAS's complete failure to actually improve on Emerald (or even base RS) is well documented, but the art style is the real kicker for me. It is an insanely ugly game that trades well-crafted sprites for bitcrushed, expressionless 3D models that look retarded
>>12385525>>>honest formKek. It's weird how a social game like Pokemon is lauded for essentially being consumerist slop for kids in 1998, but referencing crowdsourced data and using public tools is cheating and forbidden territory. It's not just you either, it's a weird thing with most oldfags in this franchise.
>>12385561>No haha, I have no patience to breed pokemon endlessly for statsreading sure is hard, Im pro hack mons buddy. Having advance knowledge of the game you're playing is cheating. Its like playing a card game against someone and knowing their full deck, it's an unfair advantage, which is called cheating.
>>12385585>playing the game and learning is cheatingjej. keep seething about losing in a children's game then, fag. i couldn't care less.
>>12385584It's an oldfag loser thing, not a Pokemon thing. Anything that takes practice, studying, and time is boring and easy to them... when that's what anything hard in life takes to accomplish.
>>12385584I am not going so far as to say it's forbidden, I don't really care how other people play their games. For me, and maybe other oldfags we grew up with RPGs and went into them blind and had to figure things out. That's part of playing games for us. The whole GI joe, knowing is half the battle. Once you figure it out, then you're never ignorant again and you lose that sort of mystery box element.
>>12385593>someone else beating the game and copying them is playing a gameYou watch your youtube videos of people playing games better than you if it makes you happy, Im not stopping you.
>>12385602Yeah I love playing games blind. That's why I knew I needed perfect IVs for the Frontier ahead of time (when you don't)
Only oldniggers would seethe about saving hundreds of hours of pointless breeding because the "ignorance" is lost lmao
>>12385606i've done it twice with the obvious team for the frontier, which needs no breeding whatsoever. meanwhile you're eternally stuck mashing left and right in front of the daycare.
>>12385607this statement makes it clear you don't actually get it.
>>12385624>i've done it twice with the obvious team for the frontierLol, ok, I get what kind of gamer you are now.
>>12385630He saved you from hours of unnecessary breeding. Why are you mad?
>>12385634an intelligent one? why thank you.
>>12385635Im not mad? And I don't do pokemon breeding. I think you're replying to the wrong person.
>>12385635He didn't have the privilege of learning it was pointless 400 hours in. Redundant research is the name of the game.
>>12385638Yes, exactly, you're the smartest bestest most greatest gamer there ever was and anything outside your world is dumb wrong and bad.
>>12385649correct, and i don't hold a retarded mindset like "using my brain is cheating"
>>12385657
It was pretty common back then to cheat in the Frontier and pass their streaks off as legit. Some didn't even make ongoing streaks a multiple of 7. A lot of 12 year olds in the 2000s were pretty stupid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_2nqze2e6g
>>12384062DS is late millennial. Most zoomers were not born when the DS launched, and at its peak, the older zoomers were 5 at most. Heck, I'm 34, I was 12 when DS released, c'mon. Wii and DS not being millennial machines is bullshit.
>>12384121Imagine even thinking Joe's opinion is worth something.For once I may side with Tamashii just to spite Joe.
>>12385539They're good. Not without flaws, but a handful of psychotic autists take it too far and pretend it doesn't have any advantages at all over the GBA games. I'd say they're worth at least one playthrough, which is more than I can say for subsequent remakes and gens.That said, you're missing out on peak ORAS now that the 3DS online service is down.
I play on emulator and never cheat or inject pokemon. I play the correct way.
>>12384676>cool designs like Groudon and Rayquazathey're generic monster beasts with pastel colors, literally third rate isekai anime design tier.
>>12385867the original DS, surebut the Wii and DSi are elder zoomer consoles
>>12384065Fuck yeah
>>12385976>genericwhat a retard you are
>>12385891his opinion is worth 151x more than yours is
>>12385867this dummy doesn't know the ages of zoomersit starts latest at 1997
>>12384361He is famous yes, but for all the wrong things.
>>12386562you're an autistic hater that can't bring himself to even mention the actual and significant reason he's famousI can imagine how thoroughly isolated you are and it's clear you shan't be getting better anytime soon, so I'd personally recommend suicide
is this the general to talk about romhacks? I've made a small list of what people consider the best pokemon romhacks:unbound 2.1.1odyssey 4.1.1gaia 3.2glazed 9.1quetzal (development)vega fairy ex 1.4azure emerald (development)those are the gba ones, have I got everything? are the any must haves that I didn't get?
>>12384057He sure fucking failed the assignment.
>>12386972Gen 2 was already failing the assignment
>>12384208Gen 3 in general made no attempts to balance the types. FRLG don't benefit from much at all, cause they didn't really do much. It really was a missed opportunity to tweaks things. They could have flipped ghost and dark, made dark atk and ghost special. Make bug resist psychic ffs. Give water a physical weakness to say poison, flying, something. The phys/special split became so needed cause gen 3 didn't bother to do anything. So FRLG suffers can Ru/Sa didn't bother.
>>12386562I love how you're deluding yourself into thinking he didn't create Serebii, one of the most influential Pokemon sites for its time, because the consensus among terminally online Pokemon fans isn't worshipping Johto like the second coming of Christ anymore.
Joe is an irrelevant as fuck paid shill, his website sucks ass and the bulbapedos absolutely MOG him at everything he does.If you want to quote a johtofag that criticizes Johto with good and honest takes and actual merit on the community look for Smithplayspokemon aka the legacy romhacks guy.
>>12385413I never bothered with any of that shit.
>>12386947What about clover?
>>12387678is it any good
>>12387715I think it is. From sprites to plot. But very funny romhack
>>12385940>it doesn't have any advantages at all over the GBA games.It doesn't. Less content. worse graphics and a shitty transportation gimmick.
people should be making NDS romhacks instead of gba, the system is much more powerful, allows for better graphics and more mechanics
>>12387718alright I got it, I don't like fakemons but new story and new maps are always fun
>>12387745And the most cool as i know it was made by /vp/
>>12386972
>>12387054campaignshitter post
>>12387720>less contentDemonstrably untrue. A metric fuckton of new Pokemon are crammed in, there are multiple new dungeons like Sea Mauville and Scorched Slab, secret bases are massively enhanced and have purpose, the safari zone is actually decent now, etc.
>>12381365I'm playing through Emerald for the first time right now having played Sapphire when I was a kid and LeafGreen when I was a manchild during college. I'm about halfway through the main game and compared to Sapphire I'm really not liking how they're forcing so many double battles and having your Pokenav constantly ring with random phone calls all the time. I'm kinda sad this is the game that became the "reference" Gen 3 game out of RSE, but I'm betting a lot of romhacks for this game remove the aforementioned things I didn't like.
>>12384061This is a fun theory, but the lead designer of RSE has confirmed that it was inspired by his vacations to Kyushu during summers. I think that's why there are so many beaches in this game, plus the marketing material from back when this game came out always gave me a vacation vibe somehow.
>>12383353People were like that about Sword/Shield too
>>12387054They didn't need to change the type chart, just make it so there are better answers to Psychics.
>>12387882>they're forcing so many double battlesAnd that's bad because?It's not like those battles have competitive tier opponents.
>>12384629>Manectric and RaichuI personally thought Plusle/Minun were the more obnoxious gen I lookalikes
>>12385369>It's fully something a kid could figure out without needing an online pokemon stat calculatorI think a kid would simply not care, or at least I didn't back when I first played RSE as a kid. I only met people that cared about that stuff when I started college and ran into neckbeards that spent all their free time doing laps on their bikes in-game trying to hatch eggs
>>12385635>hours of unnecessary breedinghot
>>12387715I've seen some people say it's the GOAT romhack, but it's also the only romhack I've played so I don't know how it compares to others
>>12387990Same
>>12387930>And that's bad because?I didn't mind them in Sapphire because they happened way less than in Emerald where NPC's were moved around on the map to make double battles happen more often. They force experience to be distributed amongst two pokemon instead of one, so it slows things down if you're currently grinding out a specific 'mon. Fortunately you can avoid most of the new double battles, but if you're trying to do that then you're stuck putting in effort maneuvering around NPC's trying to dodge double battles.
>>12387729The reason why there were so many Gen III romhacks is because AdvanceMap exists and made making romhacks very accessible for people without coding backgrounds. It's the same reason why there are so many Super Mario World romhacks; Lunar Magic exists and makes it easy to make levels without having to script anything. AFAIK, there's no "DS Map" for Gen IV because modern romhacks are made by programming sock wearers editing disassembled code instead of poking around data on the ROMs themselves, hence no editor for the DS games since the task that an editor would streamline isn't being done anymore.
>>12387926The physical/special split was very needed because of the imbalances on the type chart. They could have attempted some changes, but game freak thinks to just add new types as hard counters. If crunch was atk based in gen 3 that helps a great deal.
>>12387793A reddit screencap from a phone, hoenniggers are special. So very special.
>>12381365I don't like double battles. But man. This fucking game was probably the most I ever wanted a game. I even joined a contest in a magazine that was giving away a copy. It was a "the more you call this number the better your chances". I was suck a fucking retard. Of course I never got it, think I had to wait a few more years until I played it on emulator. I wish I remembered what that was like. I have no idea what my first "oh shit gba on my PC!" moment was. I wish I remembered
Ugly game.
>>12388261Uhhh how do you know that screenshot is from leddit, anon?
>>12387887>"only what they explicitly tell us is true">"pokemon are only based on one thing"don't be a brainlet
>>12387968it's a functional comparison, not an aesthetic one
>>12388369uh-oh
>>12384080The PS2 was released in 2000, and allowed on vr in 2020. Do you have any further questions?
>>12388369From the retarded layout. And I can tell it's from a phone from the retarded resolution and font rendering. Also, a 148 vote poll, who'd be stupid enough to post this? That's right, you, a redditor.
>>12388504>From the retarded layoutwhich you are admitting you are familiar with, dumb redditor
>>12388528Stop bringing your filth unsolicited for 16 fucking years if you don't want people to recognize you.
>>12387975Since you wouldn't care you assume most people wouldn't is by far the dumbest take. I'm sure plenty of kids would notice a thing the game tells you to pay attention to and is on the menu screen as seen here >>12385315
>>12383861These Morkdrones are really ticking me off!
>>12388369Kek, you got him.
>>12387715I've heard people who are into Pokémon romhacks a lot say that it's one of the best ones around.
>>12381434>but theres a desert route give me a breakRight??? And how do you expect me to believe that Kanto is based on the real life Kanto when the real life Kanto doesn't have a haunted tower filled with Pokemon ghosts or a cave filled with moon fairies! Fucking ridiculous, give me a break.
>>12389128It is based on real life, based on means the base, not a literal translation.
>>12389157Cool, so why are you crying about them adding a desert route in Kyushu? Based on means the base, not a literal translation.
>>12389162nta dumbass.
>>12384121Well the whole “sacrificed to fit Kanto” aspect is long debunked but they absolutely did a shit job scaling the games and the level curve/progression is god awful. Why is the last gym’s highest level Pokémon only level 40.
I don't have a peak in this series. For me it's gen 1-3 on the same playing field. Graphics are too weird from DS onwards. Too many pokemon when under 400 was perfect. 1 is a beautiful broken mess, 2 had the comfiest feeling, 3 was a balance of colorful visuals and region design. pre DS era pokemon is FF1-X era FF. A product of its time but times change and letting things die isn't a bad thing.
>>12389491>Why is the last gym’s highest level Pokémon only level 40.claire is not the last gym, did you even play the game? It very famously has more gyms after the elite four.
>>12381434>>12389157The desert is directly based on the volcanic desert region of Aso in Kyushu.
>>12381365Gen 3 flopped
>>12389994You lost
>>12389994It filtered the retards who played pokemon simply because it was the popular thing to do and not because they actually liked it. Gen 3 is peak gameplay. The story is casual enough for newcomers, Battle Frontier is advanced enough for people who want to get into the mechanics. The region design is top-tier and the one most suited for adventure and exploration.
>>12389085I agree with that
>>12389957Kanto is post game.
>>12389491>the whole “sacrificed to fit Kanto” aspect is long debunkedno it isn't
>>12389994Gen II killed Pokemania
>>12389491The amount of lies people make up to try and pretend GS was some insane programming miracle instead of your average later era Gameboy game is amazing.
>>12390506GTA3 and puberty killed Pokemania
>>12382109it only gets worse from here. mid 20s is young as fuck. eat well, workout, do acid, get pussy, and spend as much time as you can with friends and family. life is beautiful, soak it up while you still can.
>>12390547>do acidbased and CIApilled
>>12390402post what game?
>>12390547>eat well, workout, do acid, get pussy, and spend as much time as you can with friends and familywhere the FUCK do you think you are
>>12390547>life is beautiful>so be a drug-addled hedonistKek, fucking loser
>>12390547do acid is retarded advice. it's not for everyone.
>>12390540toddy cope
>>12390506Looks like Yellow killed pokemania. That's when they removed the soul from the games and added in a bunch of shit from the corny anime like the redesigned sprites.
>>12390556>>12390570>>12390598gay nerd alert>>12390619that's fair
>>12388504>>12388528>>12388536Imagine making a scene just over another website existing you fucking autist
>>12390879>you're a gay nerd if you don't want to do this thing the CIA literally forced onto peopleamerimutt cattle detected
>>12390807Yellow sold half of three games combinedCrystal sold a fourth of two games combined
>>12390886You need to go back
>>12390951>Yellow sold half of three games combinedThe anime should have carried the fuck out of Yellow, but it flopped. Pokemon was a novelty that couldn't last.
Every Pokemon thread eventually circles around to discussion about Gen 2 being bad
>>12390562Post main game.Kanto in GSC is like Cerulean Cave in RBY.
>>12390060>The region design is top-tier and the one most suited for adventure and exploration.There's exactly one good route in Hoenn, and you know which one I'm talking about. Enjoy half of your "adventure" being a giant blue expanse with nothing but Tentacools and Wingulls.
>>12391118>Enjoy half of your "adventure" being a giant blue expanseThanks, I will. Sucks for you that you're some macaco or jeet who lacks the Faustian spirit. Sailing the open sea is how we made our mark on the world, and why you're speaking our language.
>>12391098Because Gen Poo is shit from a pokemon distribution, level balancing, item distribution, progress, story, starter design, and post game level
>>12391142You're not actually sailing or braving the seas, you roleplaying dipshit, you're just using a thousand Repels and fighting your own drowsiness. But it's funny that you're projecting the color of your own skin.
>>12391147It's a roleplaying game you brown retard, and there's cool shit to find and explore like a whole abandoned ship. Stick to your urban settings, it's your species' natural habitat.
>>12391150Roleplaying in that you're taking the role of a fantastical monster trainer in a world of fantastical monsters. Tediously swimming across the ocean isn't very interesting unless you're retarded.
>>12391154Nothing tedious about it, as mentioned there's things to discover and explore. You're just fuming over it since your people never even independently developed the sail.
>>12391159There's nothing to discover or explore. Shoal Cave is two steps north of Mossdeep, and that's the only dungeon. Every single dive spot is worthless, not even a single TM or Rare Candy to be found. Just a bunch of colored shards. But of course you're so retarded you actually think that's a good prize. Good goy.
>>12391160>brown retard never discovered the abandoned ship dungeonAs I said, complete lack of the Faustian spirit. That's why your people waited around to be colonised rather than doing the colonising.
>>12391168You lost hard with that last post, muchacho. Time to move on. Adios.
>>12389994>32 million units sold is a flop
>>12391163>a fucking boat with three trainers in it is a dungeonThe absolute state of Hoennzooms.
>>12391175>three trainersYou didn't play the game.
>>12391176Count them. I might be off by one or two.
>>12391178There's seven trainers, two of which can be rematched, and one of the best TMs in the game can be found there among other items.
>>12391181Fucking boring. Trainers that you OHKO are not "content". And the only TM is Ice Beam which can be found elsewhere.
>>12391168>I'm not, I fucking hate kikes, niggers, spics, and jeetsMinorities can hate themselves.
>>12391098When you spend enough time on this board you realize one guy has a folder of images he likes to share and a word document full of talking points he loves to post. Theres no discussion to be had just a collection severely disturbed individuals who will make their opinion known.
>>12391187>that doesn't count because of this reason!>okay it's not like that at all, it doesn't count because of this reason instead!>okay that was also wrong, it still doesn't count because of this reason!What's boring is constantly correcting your statements, but that's what I get for arguing with a literal retard.
>>12391193I'm not even the guy you were talking to.
>>12391201A real adventure is finding Articuno in the Seafoam Islands or Zapdos in the Power Plant. Both are completely optional. Your optional dungeons are a bunch of no-name retard trainers that you OHKO and a non-unique TM. Sorry you were born a zoomer.
gen 3 > gen 1 > gen 2you can't refute this
>>12391187>And the only TM is Ice BeamThis is also wrong. Just stop, anon.
>>12391215Ah, ok Rain Dance. For all the single player tryhards that made a Rain Dance team.
>>12391220Rain Dance can be incredibly useful in the Battle Frontier. You were able to beat the Battle Frontier, right anon?>inb4 brainlet cope about how you totally could have but just didn't want to
>>12391223There are way easier ways to beat the BF, but nice cope.
>>12391228>dodges the simple yes/no questionKek. Don't bother trying to answer it in the next post, the damage has already been done.
>>12391236>he didn't realize that "There are easier ways to beat it" means I've beat itSorry you're brown.
>>12391238That's not how english works, macaco. Your statement could just as well have meant that you were aware of strategies to beat it, but haven't done so yourself. Hopefully at some point you realise that you've been making a complete arse of yourself this entire time.
>>12391245No, that's exactly how English works. There's this thing called "implications" but you can't understand those because you're an 80 IQ brown. You keep projecting about it.
>>12391207I'm sorry, I didn't hear any argument against this post.
>>12391096Game Freak sold the same game three times prior and still netted 15 million sales for the fourth.You are either stupid or disingenuous. Why not both, actually.
>>12391098>>12391145There are three retro gens.Two of them are good.One of them is bad.People on 4chan just so happen to discuss the latter fact than the former. Habitual focus upon the negative.
>>12391345There is one good gen.One of them has a perfect level curve and openness in how you can approach it.One of them does the exact opposite.One of them is water and trumpets.
>>12391118>>12391142>>12391147>>12391150>>12391154>>12391159>>12391160>>12391163>>12391168>>12391169It's crazy how buffoonishly disingenuous one has to be in their vain attempts to make Hoenn look bad.
>>12391201>that's what I get for arguing with a literal retardindeedgschizos cannot be reasoned withany engagement is for the awakening of onlookers still caught up in the old johto astroturfing
>>12391214huh?that's the standard and correct orderwhat is there to argue about?
>>12391356>>12391350
>>12391357
>>12391365of course a johtoddler would complain about a map being too expansive, what with empty west kanto and gutted kanto being their standards for space
>>12391375HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA*breathes*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Which are the best routes in the series? (plz provide pics)
>>12391405What's the criteria though?
>>12391405The RBY ones where you can get a trainer to glitch you into Mew.
>>12391406I'm looking for comfiest, but really whatever is your favorite.
>>12391426We don't post our to-do lists here.
>>12391207>>12391280Because it's wrong. Rain Dance is a unique TM and obviously very useful for rain teams.
>>12391430lel
>>12391419This one here is a fan favorite.Personally I don't think a comfy retro Pokemon route actually exists. If a route isn't challenging, it tends to be short and empty.
>>12391439every post you make further confirms you haven't played the game
>>12391439>campaignWho cares, you can beat the whole campaign with Magikarp if you wanted to. Rain is a whole different playstyle and is viable in comp and the Frontier if you utilize Swift Swim and 100% accurate Thunders.
>>12391439>>12391453retard
kikeschizo melty time
>>12390540The anime being so slow really killed it too. Ash doesn't fight Gary till years in. Measuring against Goku, he'd beaten Vegeta, Frieza and Gohan beat Cell in the same time. It takes like 2 years to get most of the johto pokemon in the anime too. While 140 or so appear in the first year.
>>12391207>A real adventure is finding Articuno in the Seafoam Islands or Zapdos in the Power Plant. Both are completely optional.Seriously kino, so spoopy being out in these areas, no other trainers, just pokemon>>a fucking boat with three trainers in it is a dungeonWeird they put trainers here cause its the lack of trainer th->Your optional dungeons are a bunch of no-name retard trainers that you OHKO and a non-unique....actually the lack of trainers is what.... fucking inconsistent faggots. Do WE WANT TRAINERS OR NOT?! What makes it good? Good fucking lord. Gen 3 fails to compare to gen 1, but it beats gen 2. Gen 1 > Gen 3 > gen 2
Gen 1 is my favorite in the series, despite some shortcomings addressed in future entries.Gen 1 evokes a very specific world that predates the franchise’s enormous success. Before the franchise would influence itself into an incestuous spiral of brand synergy with the ashinme and merchandizing potential, the first entry derived its sensibility from the 90s animanga/jrpg zeitgeist, especially Akira Toriyama’s body of work up until that point, and the personal childhood experiences of Satoshi Tajiri, contrasted against the industrialization of modern Japan, and the tension between the 80’s bubble optimism and the 90’s cynicism that followed. Tajiri imagines a world that equally reconciles, and pits, man, machine, and nature with/against each other, without shying away from the good and bad of all three, and without coming across as preachy or overly saccharine. Framing this subject through the lens of a child’s region-wide journey doing field research and challenging themselves to become the best monster tamer affords it a subtlety that similar (excellent) efforts (like Jurassic Park) couldn’t manage.Kanto is the world this vision was made for. A land that reasonably had not yet been fully cataloged (hence the Pokedex quest), biologically isolated from the world around it (other regions weren’t in the conversation yet) teeming with the energy of discovery. A place where the forests house stylized versions of the bugs and critters of Japanese childhood, where humans gamble, drink, mourn the loss of their dead Pokemon in a graveyard, steal and police. Where the cutting edge of science has managed wonders like healing potions, Pokeballs, and Pokemon Centers, but crosses dangerous lines by resurrecting extinct prehistoric creatures with their DNA, and engaging in genetic engineering.
>>12392381Industrial waste becomes a part of the ecosystem, and the electrical grid attracts strange creatures that are as artificial as they are biological. Life, the cute, the cool, the strange, and the ugly, blankets this world.Gen 1 was the first and only time that Pokemon had a unified art style and design sensibility. The Pokemon share an angularity and visual cohesion that begins to slip as early as Gen 2 (later designs intentionally contradict themselves often). The technology is chunky and analog. There is a roughness to the world that slims and smooths and “plushifies” as the series went on.People roast Gen 1 over its shoddy code and bugs (as well they should), but I believe that in doing so they miss a lot of the genius in its design. How the world is gated and paced is the best in the series, and the early game is structured in such a way where it tutorializes you without much interruption (there is a little). The actual map structure of Kanto is great, opening up just enough to be interesting. Small ideas like early bugs evolving quickly, weedle introducing you to poison right before the first pokecenter, Voltorbs functioning as item mimics, there’s some good stuff here. The games are rather easy, so most of the oversights can be missed by the general audience. But the stuff that works, works well.Gen 1 IS the idea, before the brand, before the expectation of being the biggest franchise colored by its anime adaptation instead of the other way around. It’s a video game that wants you to go outside, and link up with other people, the game does what it’s about.I have some respect for the later entries (2-5) for various reasons, (Gen 2’s ambition, Gen 3’s quality of life features, Gen 4’s competitive viability and Gen 5’s curation of elements from the previous entries), but Gen 1 IS the Pokemon vision, realized, warts and all.
>>12391207>>12391901Kikeschizo samefag
>>12392385>Weedle>Before the first pokecenterLol
>>12392416Should have sanity checked, but the point about the design still applies. Pardon the gaff.
Too much water is a legitimate complaint for one reason only: surfing sucks in Pokemon games. Caves suck but in a way that they should because they function as dungeons. Hoenn tried to vary it up with dive but they should have increased the biodiversity of water and figured out a new system to distinguish between encounter areas and areas free from encounters. The large body of water is thematically and aesthetically important to the region and story, but surfing sucks in Pokemon.
>>12392449I agree with making the surfing encounters more diverse, but I thought getting lost in the vast ocean was part of the experience. IMO the worst surfing section was the southeast part of the region that's just a line of trainers. At least most of the water is optional.
>>12381365I don't play it without the Revelation hack.
