Rayman remasterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6si6GIKIg24
my wife showed me this before you did, kek. good thing it has a trainer menu or no modern audiences would bother with it...
Did you know Rayman sold 4 million copies across all consoles? 4 million! No one ever talks about it. It sold more than Croc, or Banjo Kazooie, or RE3. Everyone remembers those games, but not Rayman. Rayman was just kinda "there".
rayman redemption already exists
>>12382492not for long it doesn'tdownload it before it gets taken down
This will save Ubisoft stock.
>>12382452Oh boy a laggy inaccurate version of the original for a premium price
>>12382482Probably because it sucks. It looks great, it has a great soundtrack but it plays poorly and it's incredibly unbalanced.
lmao
>>12382482A good chunk of Rayman's sales were in Europe, watch any millennial UK YouTuber who talks about video games and they'll bring it up. Rayman belongs in the same "niche" as those games you mentioned, popular but not universally played or recognized.>>12382567>accessibility options>look inside>cheat codesCan we stop this shit?
>>12382567Came here to inb4 this shit >>12382482What is this meme with people saying this kind of shit about every best seller that isn't Mario or Zelda? What are people like you doing here? Absolutely pathetic. Maybe the target audiance for these remasters do post on /vr/ now after all. Shouldn't you be posting comments on youtube or gamefaqs or retrogametalk about "games that HOLD UP and have AGED WELL" (and how Rayman isn't one of them)?
>>12382452Who cares? Rayman Redemption exists and it's free.>>12382498>Uploaded about 5 years agoI think it will be fine. Put your cock back in your pants. >>12382741I have low vision and that shit is pretty condescending. Font size, color, text readers and background opacity are accessibility options, invincibility, infinite lives and such are just cheats.
>>12382452It includes the SNES prototype, is it finally playable?>>12382851Accessibility for zoomers, I suppose. The rewind option is going to be a lifesaver against space mama. Fucking bitch.
>>12382482>nObOdY hAs HeArD oF iTDude, Rayman had, what, two direct sequels, two HD soft-reboots, and a constant presence as a cross-over franchise (Rabbids, etc). Dont act like your retarded Croc or Glover or whatever is a better-known IP.
>>12382851>Put your cock back in your pants.how is this an appropriate response? are you having a stroke, or are you esl?
>>12382567Honestly the cheat options don't bother me like they usually would. The original Rayman is fucking ridiculously unreasonably hard to the point where it would be a bitch to play even with unlimited lives.
>>12382926>ridiculously unreasonably hardgit gudyou're not entitled to see the end
Seems like native widescreen is the only interesting new feature if you aren't interested in the cheats or protoypes. Maybe Rayman Redemption has that too but when I last tried it I thought its OC shit stuck out like a sore thumb, no idea why people shill that project so hard.
>>12382452>RaymanGreat series. One of the best. Under-appreciated too.
>>12382926It's about the same difficulty as other platformers of the time like DKC2, Crash Bandicoot, Bug Too or Lomax and it's definitely easier than Skullmonkeys which came out after
>>12382932That's what she said
>>12382492I'll never get over the fact he played the Jaguar version for the first time years later and was noticing all these details he didn't get to put in his Sony wankfest project.
They replaced all the music on the PS1 version and it SUCKS.
>>12383072>>12383709so... Jaguar > Saturn > PSX?
>>12383720This goes over it pretty well: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pjJV0iOYASUtldr while PS1 was the lead CD version, the Jaguar version was the one playtested the most since it was the one in development longest. Both are missing some things not in the other version.>>12383709How about the DOS and GBA versions? Not sure why they were included (I guess because all those level packs were for DOS, and GBA because it was by Digital Eclipse) but they don't have the "enhancements" apparently.
Oh god they redid ALL the music in ALL versions, and they didn't tell anyone until after it dropped. In the Atari Podcast they explain it's due to legal issues with the originals.Digital Eclipse kys.
>>12383775Is it a Sonic 3 type issue? Does the composer partially own it or something?
>>12383795They tuck in a very short part in the extras section (Rayman Re-Scored):>Rayman Origins and Rayman Legends composer Christophe Héral discusses creating the new music for this 30th anniversary release of Rayman, paying homage to original composer Rémi Gazel (1966-2019)Sounds like his compositions are in legal limbo after he died of cancer... They keep saying this is a tribute and they were very respectful and needed to do this to even re-release the game and blablablah but honestly they don't hold a candle to the originals.
>>12382932I have played the original Rayman several times and will definitely play it again. Even then I believe the game could only be improved by infinite continues.>>12382949I never had nearly as much trouble with DKC2 or Crash.>>12383709>>12383775Well that blows.
>>12383825>we don't own the music to our own in-house produced musicembarrassing
>Discover the secrets behind Rayman's development through a long lost playable prototype, RESTORED FOR THE FIRST TIME.So that was a fucking lie. It's identical to Omar Cornut's dump. No "restoration" happened. Same 30 secs of gameplay.>THE DEFINITIVE VERSION OF THE FIRST RAYMAN uses the power of the CD-ROM to present animated video sequences and beautiful 2D animation.... SO THAT WAS A FUCKING LIE...
Worst of all,>Rayman no longer says "no problem" when he gives a thumbs-up in the PS1 introDropped. Way to make your collection completely worthless.
>>12382567desu only way i beat rayman is with the 99 lives cheat.why is there an unlock levels and abilities cheat tho? why even bother at that point
>>12383795The Sonic 3 sitch is different because the alternate tracks bear no resemblance (and the leaked proto was in better quality than the versions they used in Sonic Origins) whereas here, it's more like they can't reuse the original recordings but large parts of the melodies can be similar. It's like hearing a bootleg concert version of the Rayman OST... I'll have to hear it in full before I form a final opinion. But to be super-fair to this collection: from what I hear so far, the Jaguar and GBC versions are a straight-up improvement over the downsampled originals. This might actually be the best way to play the Jaguar version in all honesty. I don't know what they did, if this was through the emulator or they hacked in Jaguar CD emulation or what. The major setback of the original Jaguar version was the audio.
>>12382741>watch any youtuberlolno
>>12383825That explains why the Modretro Chromatric re-release of the GBC game has new music, which was an advertised feature.
literally who gives a shit about the base ms-dos and gba versions? their screencrunch is atrocious lmao.gbc is at least a whole different game. we got snes proto already.so they made ps1 version worse and jaguar version better? could've led with that, their marketing guy sucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=echbZmBZrAI
>>12382482Same reason why no one really talks about Gex, side stroller when 2d platforms were dying and 3d platformers became the standard. The sequel came out that was a 3d platformer and everyone interested moved on to that. In the case of Rayman 2 it seemed it was on everything too, the still relevant 5th gen consoles got it and the 6th gen consoles that were out at the time got it. The 1st one came out less than a year before Mario 64 and after about 10 years of 2d platformers being one of the most ocular genres on consoles.
>>12382461 here, she called nintendo and got a refund because the music was changed from the originals. she's the best
>>12382539yeah i can't believe /vr/ is baseding out about a ubislop remake
>>12384423>wordfilteredKEK
>they fucked the music upCan this retard company do ANYTHING right?
>>12383720Saturn is like a slightly-more-playtested PS1 version, they had a month or so to make touch-ups, like for example the level clear jingle is richer. Some atmospheric transparency effects that the PS1 hardware handled are gone, but the final battle has new effects for lighting and such.Really though, I think Ubisoft must still have the source code. Every subsequent release was built on top of the PS1 version (save the Jaguar version whose engine diverged when development split off to PS1). If they actually cared, they could've made a combined version that takes the best of each. This is lazy.
>>12382741>>accessibility options>>look inside>>cheat codes>Can we stop this shit?Agreed, that this isn't "accessibility", it's just making it impossible to lose. Anyone can beat a game if you make it impossible to lose even if they were deaf, blind, and were missing all of their limbs except for a single leg by just mashing the controller with their foot.Accessibility would be making it so someone with a handicap can play at the same level as someone without it, colorblind modes, ways to adjust reaction time, closed captions (not just subtitles), macros for button presses those with missing or damaged hands can't do, etc. THAT shit is accessibility, not "Ok, you literally can't lose now. Yay! Accessibility features done! We are such great and progressive people for making our game accessible!"
DA FUCK IS THIS SHIT????https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btoLaeX1X1o
Apparently, the Steam version also requires you to sign into an account?
>>12384594Yeah, Ubisoft has it's own launcher. Basically when you run a game from steam it just tells Uplay or whatever they're calling it now to open and launch the game. It also handles it's own cloud saves abut it's buggy as fuck and if the cloud save fails for some reason it can overwrite your local saves and leave you with a corrupted save or even no save. Some other shit companies like EA do it too. I was playing some of the old assasins creed games last summer and it gave me nothing but problems. Some real bullshit, I got AC3 remastered for free when I bought odyssey years back but had no interest in playing it then. I decided to try it out so I downloaded it but I couldn't get uplay to launch it. Turns out for the free version you have to have odyssey, a 100gb game, installed on your hard drive to be able to run it. I didnt have it installed and to play the game for free i have to spend a day or 2 downloaidng it from their slow ass servers and burn a huge chunk of my data usage just to play a shitty remaster of a game I bought over a decade ago and they gave me as a gift. You know what they told me when I went through their crappy support system? If i didnt want to download oddyssey then i should just buy AC3 remastered. Absolutely shit company. Don't give them your money, if you're curious pirate that shit.
>>12382452Has anyone dumped the snes prototype?
>>12382482>lying on an english speaking anime curling board from IndonesiaShame on you anon
>>12385809The programmer found and dumped it himself years ago.https://hiddenpalace.org/Rayman_(SNES_prototype)"Byte for byte identical". DE really banked on hyping the hell out of the shadowdrop before word-of-mouth kicked in.
>Game is out for not even 24 hours>Ubisoft says support has already ended>Two of the games don't save your progress at all, it will not be fixedJesus Christ, this is a new low even for Ubisoft
>>12387742There goes the ONE thing this compilation had going for it (unbotching the Jaguar OST to make that version more bearable to play through). What a complete joke.
>>12387742The absolute state
Um, guys, you do understand these are, ahem, for *PC*, right! NO problem! The modding community will save this release! We'll do the rest of the work for these cheap companies...for free! That definitely doesn't excuse poor business practices trampling all over us, no! Now you can experience what just may be the definitive version of these ancient games!>it's bloated as hell and probably took your bank deets or something
>>12387834Aren't UbiShit games notoriously hard to mod because they actively try to prevent modding with their drm and anticheat software among other things?
>>12387742Ubisoft needs to die faster
>>12388254It's bound to happen, apparently they just canceled the Sands of Time remake because it didn't meet their quality standards which you know is complete bullshit. It's probably because that last Prince of Persia game they made did hit the sales numbers they wanted but it s9ld over a million copies. I think that's pretty good for a niche franchise no one had cared about in 20 years. I bet the Splinter Cell remake gets canceled as well.
>Gay ManStarts and ends with Rayman 2
>>12387742Supposedly this was a "mistake" with a Ubisoft rep that "misunderstood" the question. Normally I would call bullshit and it just being PR speak from a company trying to save face from people talking about something stupid they did, but considering how laughably absurd it would be even for a company like Ubisoft to drop support in less than 24 hours of a release and refuse to fix two of the games in the collection failing to save at all, I would not be surprised if the idiot rep at Ubisoft assumed the guy was asking about support for the original 30 year old DOS or Jaguar releases of the games.
>>12382507this unironically
>>12388379>I think that's pretty good for a niche franchise no one had cared about in 20 years.the OG Sands of Time released 20 years after the series was last relevant and it made PoP bigger than ever before. so it definitely can be done, but all the really popular PoP games involved Jordan Mechner and good luck convincing him to work with 2026 Ubishit.
>>12387742>support has endeddid it ever really begin though?
rayman 1>no saturn version>save bugs>replaced ALL THE MUSIC IN EVERY VERSIONholy shit why did they bother?this isn't how you make new fans
Anyone here have the SNES prototype?
>>12388614>how laughably absurd it would be even for a company like Ubisoft to drop support in less than 24 hours of a release and refuse to fix two of the games in the collection failing to save at allAnon, having post launch support for modern gaming is expected. After post launch support for mememasters is not. These things aren't supposed to be the "ultimate definitive versions" marketing makes them out to be, they're designed to be cashgrabs with a budget as low as possible. They also don't expect needing to fix bugs or that the project needs any testing because for them that already happened when the games originally released. The fact that this bugs exists in the first place should tell you that.If they're pretending like "oh it's a misunderstanding! we will fix it of course!" it's only because of the backlash and I don't believe one second they had planned for post launch support in the first place.
Putting cheat codes under "accessibility" is better than putting them under "QoL": it acknowledges that people who need it are handicaped.
>>12382452Since when were remakes allowed?Not retro.
>>12389315I guess that's a point for Ubisoft...>>12389352Remakes and rereleases are considered retro, no matter how much (You) whine about it.
>>12383989>GBC exclusive>It has the notchWhat were they thinking?
>>12389751Holy crap, good catch. I'll never unsee that.. Fauxtro frauds.
I like the new music...
>>12389074Is it the same one that was leaked in 2017?
>>12389352Gonna cry?
>>12389985No you don't.
>>12383720yes, it was developed with jag hardware in mind
Did they fix the incomplete bullshit abrupt ending?>what?The end boss is just boss rash mode and when you defeat the last one a 2 second generic cutscene shows with fireforks and a voice saying "You saved the world!!" then then credits.That;s fucking it. So did they put a proper ending this time?
>>12390039The proper ending was in the Jaguar version and continued in the GBC game.
>>12390052interesting..so the remastered has the PS1 version, does it also have the jaquar version?also for those who don't know, this is the ending I am talking about>https://youtu.be/42CdsHap79s?t=5399you don't even defeat the cloaked bad guy, he just escapes
>>12390052wtf, just checked the Jaguar version,How is this a more proper ending, I don't get it??>https://youtu.be/-paF4gxRRNM?t=7909This one is even worse because there is no cutscene saying "you saved the world"it just .... ends and ok here you go, play a shitty breakout clone.
>>12390065>you don't even defeat the cloaked bad guy, he just escapesThat's the idea. The game is supposed to end on a "to-be-continued" note. Only the Jaguar version makes this obvious. The return of Mr. Dark was probably supposed to be a big part of the original Rayman 2, but became more of a soft reboot where Rayman is almost the only limbless character after it jumped ship from 2D to 3D, and he just became a mention in the manual and a constant tease that never happens.At least the Saturn version visually improves the final battle and has a unique victory animation for Rayman where he seems to just..exit the world for next time or something.
>>12382452>"Remaster">Look inside>There's Retroarch stolen codeNever change Ubisoft
>>12390117that's just something you heard on twitter without any proof or anything,some mentally ill retard just assumed it was retroarch because he is computer illiterate.
>>12390003IDK, I assume this one is more complete.
>>12390209see >>12385848 >>12383873assume nothing
>>12390237lol, typical
>>12390114>Mr. Dark's Rayman 1 boss fight is unfinished and thrown together>Mr. Dark cut from Rayman Origins complete with an intended actual boss fight>The showdown with him is only in the fucking GBC gameWhat's with this curse?
>>12390473Rayman Origins was originally a prequel instead of "Rayman 4" watch the upcoming game is called that so there's probably some lore implications with the og baddie and Rayman being the only armless characters left. They had him appear in one of the mobile games where he actually looks badass, though they prolly wanted to show off the unused redesign in case the chance never came up again.
The music has been completely RAPED. Whoever is responsible for this needs to die.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9glytg8_zE
>>12382482>No one ever talks about itretard
>you can get Rayman Forever, the PC pack that contains most of the DOS-exclusive content, for $1.49 on GOG right now.I know it's not Rayman Collector (the full edition) but the OST is mostly intact here so WHAT WHERE THEY THINKING
>>12390957They're thinking, "oh shit, we forgot to delist the game on gog." Who am I kidding, they're not thinking about this at all.
>>12390957Does it support controllers?or should just use dosbox-pure?
>>12383743>that linkPlease never post this shit again
>>12390957It's not Collector because Forever cut the soundtrack down by over half. Maybe they're the tracks that don't have legal issues?The extra levels are all custom fan submissions from back in the day made in Rayman Designer (the official level editor). Otherwise the DOS version of Rayman isn't all that notable besides replacing one of the Band Land areas and restoring Breakout. It's mostly close to the PSX version except missing a few graphical effects and the top and bottom of the screen were cut slightly compared to PSX/Jaguar/Saturn.
