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holy fucking kino
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Based brain dead gun porn
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Wife won't play anything else. This was her halo. Personally I'd take time splitters over this but it's still a top shelf game.
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>>12389112
sneed
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Seriously, on Xbox there are so many other FPS games that are way more interesting than Black.

Sure, the image is sharper, the resolution is high. But apart from that??

The art style is just shades of black, gray, and brown.
No memorable missions, no multiplayer.
Once you finish the game, you forget about it, especially on Xbox.
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>>12389198
Black was very influential and a wake up call for Battlefield and Call of Duty.
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>>12389053
Poor man's FEAR
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>>12389795
FEAR sucks.
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>>12389053
cool. now gimme PC port/recompilation so I can play it with keyboard and mouse as it was intended.
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>>12389940
You shut your whore mouf!

Black was touted as next gen for the current gen. It’s good for a fun romp but after beating it twice over the years it’s pretty shallow from what I remember. It’s worth it now because it’s super cheap.
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>>12390171
turns out all you need is beefy as fuck guns, reactive enemy hit animations, destructable environments, and kino music to make a good FPS

seems so easy yet so many shitty FPS games dont do this
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>>12389198
Not just the Xbox, even for the PS2 there was MUCH better fps games. Killzone, Red Faction, Ghost Recon, and so on.
Most of these games came out years before Black and all of them were better. I never understood why people sucked this game off it's literally everything people would go on to complain about in the next generation of first person shooters but done on weak ass hardware so it's incredibly ugly and runs at a smooth 15-30fps. There are 0 redeeming factors about this game except that it had some absolutely killer marketing, I still remember the advertisements for this game and how hyped they got me, and how disappointed I was by the game.
>>12389264
I don't know shit about Battlefield but there's no way in hell this game had any influence on call of duty, they were already well set into the more cinematic games before this game came out and somewhere between half way and 3 quarters of the way through the development of 4. This game didn't do shit, it was a weird end of a generation game that got more marketing than almost any of it's contemporaries, such as Urban Chaos. A game that is also shit but a masterpiece compared to black if only because of how stupid it is.
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>>12390203
lol such shit taste. Killzone is fucking awful compared to black. Ghost Recon is gay too, not fun at all milsim faggot shit instead of Arnie from Commando being an one man army type shit.

Game ran perfectly smooth 30 fps the whole way on Xbox. Sorry that you were a sony pleb
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>>12389053
super fun game but way too short.
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>>12390231
basically every good console FPS was too short that I can remember except TS:FP
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>>12390239
Goldeneye was just the right length at 18 levels + 2 secret levels
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>>12390273
Cold Winter is a decent length too
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>>12390227
Nigga still stuck in console wars, I have played this game on multiple systems, 30fps still sucks ass. You call it shit taste like Black is any better killzone is a 6/10 at best and yet compared to black it's amazing, managing to not only look better but also runs (slightly) better and at least has characters I can remember. You want goofy ass run and gun shoot shoot? I have great news for you, there's already a thousand games that do exactly this with about the same level of quality of Black. I'll be honest black is basically any random City Interactive game but with a whole year of polish. It's a god awful boring game but wowie it has the walls falling apart something that FEAR already did better.
Again, what does Black do that's so insanely amazing? It's one of the most generic shooters I have ever played, it seems like the only reason people give it a pass is because of the cool cover.
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I know it says you played Xbox version but the most impressive thing in Black ps2 for me is that it looks as good or even better than the earliest ps3 games. The particle effects, grenade blasting and tearing apart whole buildings is extremely impressive for ps2. Even if the whole thing is a bit cartoony because the developers never held any other guns than airsoft versions of them, tho it never claims to be a simulation I guess. Also it's kind of a silly that a weapon takes 1 headshot to kill or 50 body shots, a bit too high ratio.

>>12389264
How?
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>>12390310
>what does Black do that's so insanely amazing?
it's just a fun, solid game that positively surprised people when it came out. a game doesn't need to cure cancer to be good you know.
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>>12390312
>50 body shots, a bit too high ratio.
This and the horrendous checkpoint system ruin it for me. BLACK would be an easy 10/10 if it didn't take an entire clip to kill a single enemy and the checkpoints were more frequent.

I don't know what they were thinking.
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>>12390310
>nigga
>anime pic
Yeah no wonder you don't *get it*. You sound like FPS isn't your primary genre. Black by far has one of the best shotguns and assault rifles in any FPS ever made. That alone puts it high up in FPS campaigns. All an FPS needs to be good is really good feeling guns with really good sound design and really good environment and enemy reactions to damage.

>at least has characters I can remember
Yeah your values are dumb poser core. You probably like Killzone because of it's "artstyle" and "lore" or some shit even though Killzone feels as stiff and horrible feeling as a bargain bin shovel-ware.

The worst part about Black is not being able to skip cutscenes. Nobody who takes FPS gaming seriously actually watches cutscenes or cares about story. Its all about how fun the shootan is.
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>>12390346
>if it didn't take an entire clip to kill a single enemy

Good thing the game is piss easy even on hard mode and you hardly even need to take cover. If you complain about the difficulty in this game im not even sure you could beat any other FPS ever made.
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>>12390353
Having to reload after wasting most of a clip on a basic bitch enemy makes it very difficult. I never played a game with tankier common enemies.
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>>12390368
turn on single fire and aim for the head. use grenades. use the environmental explosives placed around literally everywhere the entire game.
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>>12390348
>All an FPS needs to be good is really good feeling guns with really good sound design and really good environment and enemy reactions to damage.
Not that anon but that sounds stupid. As if you just like the game because of graphics and spectacle, might as well watch a movie. A good fps needs good enemy variety, with a variety of hitscanners and projectiles, good level design where you're not just going through corridors or empty open fields, good weapon variety where they fit different purposes and so on. That said, I don't know how well Black does those things, but apparently I can see everything good about this game on youtube from what you're saying, no need to play it.
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>>12390312
>How?
Simply because the Call of Duty and Battlefield games released after have a lot in common with Black and nothing in common with the so-called "best first-person shooters," like Halo 2, Fear, and Half-Life 2.
Call of Duty 4 could easily be called Black 2, and Battlefield Bad Company inherits the environmental destruction featured in Black.
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>>12390374
>variety of hitscanners and projectiles
Doom worship meme. Projectile only enemies is peak FPS design. Too bad only Heretic, Hexen and Halo (until the flood) seem to follow this formula.
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>>12390374
not every game needs to be doom. goddamn stupid boomer shooter revival brought all the posers and zoomers
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>>12390387
Doom has a shortage of low-health projectile enemies but some modders have been working on this. anyway, hitscan spam is more of a Build meme
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>>12390387
>>12390391
Still not answering what Black does well outside of spectacle, nothing at all has been said of the gameplay. If the game is only good because of sound design and because you can see how things react to damage, I maintain that you can experience everything good about it on youtube, no need to play it.
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>>12390346
>>12390368
>>12390373
If you have to turn on single fire (which I obviously did too) in a run and gun game just to hit that 1 headshot by tapping from far away, it does halt the flow quite a bit. If the ratio was even like 5 headshots and 50 body shots, then it would make sense to just keep shooting but aiming at the general direction of chest/head area.

I don't actually think that having bullet sponge enemies by itself has to be bad design but it depends.

>>12390383
Alright that's something. I'm not an expert on the timeline or all of the games mentioned but it's possible. Developers do play and know of lesser known games.

Another example is that GTA IV has the circle wanted level from Scarface game and the extended injured or dying animations for enemies from Godfather game.
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>>12389053
Yeah... for like the first level. Then it's the most repetitive slog ever made, with unskippable cutscenes.
Good thing you freaks will never bother finishing it.
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>>12390348
You're right about FPS not being my primary genre (sadly good strategy games are far and few between) that being said as a trve Gamer(tm) I play all genres of games and I've played hundreds of fps across a dozen systems. Most are shit but some are definitely better. You're correct that the spectacle and "feel" of everything is important, while I whole heartedly disagree with the shotgun sentiment I do acknowledge that black has an epic assault rifle, the sound design is one of the few things black does very well, but that doesn't save the game.
By the time I got around to actually playing black, sometime around 2009 or so the military shooter craze was in full swing, combined with having already played games like FEAR and Mercenaries (not to mention all the "next gen" games) a lot of the WOW factor was gone for me. Maybe I missed the boat on this one, it's never been a "bad" game but it has always been held as an 8/10 or 9/10 game when it's more like a 5/10.
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>>12389053
Literal slop game enjoyed by contrarian uncs
>>12389068
>guns are fake shit
>gun porn
lol lmao
>>12390227
>Ghost Recon is gay too, not fun at all milsim faggot shit
Just say you're retarded anon, it's ok
>>12389264
>Black was very influential and a wake up call for Battlefield and Call of Duty.
You mean made them worse, sure.



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