this is the last game Working Designs™ localized, peak reddit faggotry before reddit was a thing, no wonder they went bankrupt and closedpress S to spit on their grave
>press S to spitYou would still be pressing F to spit. F is the key that does everything. Why S? Because spit begins with S? S would make you walk backwards. Does 'pay respects' contain an F in it? It is F to spit and F to pay respects and any other action.
>>12398189>S would make you walk backwardsnot during interactions/cutscenes
Based Vic making weebs seethe to this day. God bless him :')
>>12398178S
>>12398189Down arrow makes you walk backwards. Why are you typing S to walk when the arrow keys are right there?
This is what happens when you play games in English.
>>12398178Weebs deserve only humiliation.
>>12398216You're on an anime website
>>12398219This is a retro video games board.
>>12398189Shut the fuck up.
>>12398212>says this in english
>>12398227On anime website>>12398232ええ
>>12398189
>>12398189The F meme already transcends the game it originated from you dumb autist
>>12398178I hate the>Uum without Working Designs we wouldn't have those games released in the westArgument, they were vile retards that ruined every single game they touched.
>>12398371they're only shilled by localization professionals and their dickriders on forums like gaf.
>>12398178Someone run an Early Life check on this one.
>>12398178I'm pretty sure it's just an Airplane! reference. Calm your tits.
Isn't "tall, dark, and handsome" a somewhat common American expression? It doesn't refer to blacks, it just means tanned/Spanish/Italians as far as I understand it. WD fucking sucked though, memelations are cancer.
>>12398467>I'm pretty sure it's just an Airplane! reference.that's why it's redditanother example is during certain part of the game supposed to sad group of people spending the night listening to a sorrowful song, an one of the NPC's you can talk with says ''let's party like it's LE 1999!!!"Working Designs is the godfather of ''modern trannyslators shoving their quirky humor to spice up the text''
>>12398482"Dark" may also mean mysterious or brooding.
>>12398489I don't care about WD anymore than you do, but you sound like a buttflustered lunatic that needs to take a long fucking break from 4chinz from the way you regurgitate buzzword after buzzword. I'd say that about anyone who unironically uses "Reddit" as an adjective, as a matter of fact.
>>12398482"Dark" usually just meant men that had dark hair. It had nothing to do with complexion. Clark Gable was the original expression it was meant for.
I hate working Designs so goddamn much. They didn't just do terrible translations, they took it upon themselves to modify the stats of almost every enemy in every RPG they localized, which is a simple enough task, but sometimes they would go further to alter a game's coding.Their work on Vay was one of the worst offenders. In the Japanese version, there's a chest that claims at first it's empty, but as a joke, basically reveals there there's one gold piece in the back of it. Working Designs was like, "What if we made that worse?" and altered the chest to be a "gold vortex" that "sucks all your gold away" and instantly reduces it to 0. And the stupidest change they made involves a fairy named Sylph. In the original version, she uses her wind magic to let the party "ride the wind" to their next destination. Working Designs changed it so her powers from a flatulence curse, and her "wind" power in this case is actually her superpowered farts, and the party is required to wear a "filtration mask" to survive the trip or else you get a game over.In Lunar Silver Star Story Complete, there's a puzzle in one of the dungeons where you have to walk through a series of doors in the correct order. Each door has a symbol in front of it on the floor, and you just have to read and memorize a piece of paper that shows you the correct order of these symbols. Working Designs leaves it blank, leaving the player to figure it out through dumb luck. And in the ending, there's a part where you walk up a staircase to Luna. Working Designs changed it so she fires lasers at Alex, giving you an instant game over. You're required to use the ocarina, which allows you to walk up the staircase safely. But originally, you could give away the ocarina, which would cause you to softlock your save file, so WD made it so you can't give it away.Playing a Working Designs localization is like playing a shitty ROM hack with increased difficulty and joke editing to all the text.
>>12398178I had the pleasure to never touch any of their crap during my childhood and yes they seem like obnoxious retards.S>>12398503>hey these things kinda suck here is why >why do you care about quality!?!?!? You're a literal psycho!!!Pathetic
>>12398539>sometimes they would go further to alter a game's coding.their dilettantish meddling made the Saturn version of Silhouette Mirage actually unplayable. these faggots really had nothing better to do than fuck with other people's work. why not just make your own game at that point? oh wait, it's because you're too much of a shit-eating hack.
Keep crying.
>>12398467I don't even need to check the Early Life of the writer/director. I just know.
>racist poster doesn't understand a reference to a common saying in his own language and instead applies modern /pol/itics to a 30 years old gameRacist posters are always so fucking dumb I swear
Love their translations.Hate their gameplay (stats) changes.
>>12398371>They mistranslated a few boring generic NPC interactionsoh no how utterly terrible exclusively for extremely autistic people with no humor
>>12398539Lunar and MKR weren't bad. Flavor text is more fun and engaging than reading bog-syandard Japanese shit like "There is a brown book in the shelf".The issues in Lunar weren't that big, and the end scene with Luna makes sense in the context of the world. It's not a bad change, just a different change.But...>Their work on Vay was one of the worst offendersVay is inexcusable though. They turned that game into a complete piece of shit. They tripled the cost of healing spells, increased the cost of damage spells drastically, and increased all enemies' stats, making the game way grinder. They turned it into garbage.
Do you guys think that it's Working Designs' fault you all grew up to be bitter angry losers?
>>12398857No because I only played any of their games long after reaching adulthood.
>>12398216This 2bh
I don't know how anyone can defend them.They literally fucked with the dev's intended balance solely because they did not want to allow kids to save some money by renting it and beating it quickly
Eh,"tall, dark stranger" didn't mean soundcloud mumble rapper negro back then.>>12398467>hits wall at age 10
People are bashing Working Design, but you're in denial about the US translation of MGS 2 by Agness Kaku.
>>12398961>>12398467>>12398482>>12398505>"Guyz it doesn't mean exactly what it means!!!">Directed by Jim Abrahams, David Zucker, Jerry ZuckerSloppy job.
>>12398991The key here is DARK, which usually meant tanned, swole mediterranean european. BLACK is what you expect.
>>12399001How is that any better?
>>12399002The savagery is several magnitudes less.
>>12398991>I can only understand word context and use based on my own upbringing and historical context>I cannot imagine any other historical use of this wordLack of ability to think in abstract terms is literally autism
>>12399008>Directed by Jim Abrahams, David Zucker, Jerry ZuckerSloppy job.
It's honestly surprising that Working Designs stayed in business as long as they did during the 90s. I assume that none of the Japanese developers had any idea what they were doing, because constantly changing the tone of the story, as well as the gameplay itself, feels like grounds for termination.Working Designs quoted Youichi Miyaji – the CEO of Game Arts, which was one of the companies that made Lunar – as saying that he "needed a translator who is a genius". But considering that quote is coming from Working Designs, I genuinely doubt he actually said that.
>>12398189damn
>>12398191but you make everyone walk backwards in your irl interactions
>>12398857Literally never played any of their translations or heard about them until I started using /vr/ but judging by the screenshots and >>12398949 sounds like they did a shit job
>>12399121>Keeps posting the most enjoyable and soulful "translations" in the entire gameI thought you were supposed to be making a case AGAINST WD
>>12399160Working Designs dickriders are the worst.
>>12398845>modern western pop culture references in my fantasy JRPG is actually a good thing!
>>12398949This is what they did for Alundra, by hiking the stats of just about every single enemy. The worst part is that they lied about it and claimed the opposite.
>>12399121>wahhh why did they add humor to my super serious cartoon game
>>12399270Geez, I think that was for the best. The WD version was already easy as fuck, I can’t imagine how braindead the combat is in the original.
>>12399160>>12399201In my experience, most people enjoyed the Lunar translation back in the 90s. There was always a subset of proto-weebs bitching about it online, but otherwise people thought the writing was funny and good. Sadly, most normies who enjoyed it (after playing FFVII and wanting more RPGs) have moved on, while those obsessive weebs are still around online posting about RPG translations. Thus, they end up misrepresenting how it was received back then by being the more vocal party now.
>>12398189>F is the key that does everything.This is /vr/. E is the key that does everything.
>>12399610As a rule, I don't think localizations should go that far changing things. Despite that, I still find the WD Lunar script enjoyable and enjoy it for what it is.
>>12398178im just entering this thread to see all the disingenuous people that actually love it when a company from california modifies a japanese script to fit their sensibilities. I didnt think such progressive views were popular on this website!
>>12399692See >>12399667You can be against companies doing that, but still acknowledge that the results are sometimes entertaining.
>>12398539Not to mention they just randomly fucking around with enemy stats in every game.
>I didnt think such progressive views were popular on this website!That's another thing, kids associate localizations changing a bunch with "progressives" now because of stuff like Nintendo Treehouse's staff. This is a modern perception, nobody watched Samurai Pizza Cats and accused it of being lefty progressivism.
I always kind of wished they could have had a chance to make their own game from the ground up.
>>12399738>>12398539They were a mixed bag with difficulty changes. The Playstation Lunar games and Alundra felt fine. Then there's stuff like Exile 2 where they totally broke things.
BRAAAAP :D
Most jrpg scripts are boring WD is based and funny
>>12399776Btw I'm a heterosexual male, I don't know if that matters
>>12399776jrpg *english* scripts are boring
>>12399121>I assume that none of the Japanese developers had any idea what they were doingThey don't have any idea now. It's a really safe bet.
>>12398990tbf MGS 2 translation was a team effort. Kaku might've been dumb enough to out herself in an interview, but that doesn't mean she's the sole cause of everything.
>>12399885are the lawsuits between her and the HG101 guy still going on?
>>12398949>I don't know how anyone can defend themOstensibly it's rage bait. I say ostensibly because sometimes they'll put their big boy pants on and make their best most succinct argument, and it's just pure retardation. They have a lot in common with the translators they defend, who will talk big what makes for good writing, and then you'll see their true writing ability and it's trash.
>>12399892>Ostensibly>succinct>t. failed writter envious of the success and fame hard working localizers of WD enjoyed during their time
>>12399904figures a WD fan would think those are big words
>>12399640Based
>>12399916can you rephrase your previous post so it contains as many pop culture references as possible?
>>12399810They're boring in Japanese tooNot sure why that is maybe it's because most of them are inspired by dungeons and dragons Japs love their D&D
>>12399947>They're boring in Japanese toono
>>12399947nips don't give a fuck about D&D, they don't even board games (unless it's nip shit like Yu Gi Oh) and none of thr Advanced D&D CRPG's released during the 80's and 90's were localized in Japanwhat they love is Wizardy, they think all the tropes, aesthetics and game rules D&D known for were in fact created by Wizardry
>>12399967Hasn't D&D repeatably failed in Japan, with there being a wider range of tabletop systems available compared to the west?
>>12399947>>12399973>>12399975Sword World is much more popular than D&D. ironically it was created after TSR refused to officialize Lodoss as a D&D module.
>>12399967>it can't be helped>whatever>I'll hate you!
>>12399983The fucked about part about Squall's "whatever" is that he was actually saying things. Those weren't dozens of synonyms that roughly translated to "whatever", no they just chose not translate. It was a filler word they put in whenever doing they didn't feel like doing their job. So messed up.
>>12399983this is english
>>12399810Japanese is a very dry language that's so rigidly context-dependent it's hard to write in creative and compelling ways. The original scripts are indeed boring and straightforward, especially because they're written with kids and young teens in mind and reading Japanese is so difficult even for native speakers that things have to be simplified and dumbed down a lot for the kids to understand what they're reading.
>>12399997>The original scripts are indeed boringno they arent
>>12399998Prove it. Absence of proof is proof that you're wrong btw.
Will anyone ever make a real translation to any of these games and add it to the Un-Working Designs patches?
>>12400000holy 0 man, my proof is just look up a japanese 実況 on youtube, theyre everywhere. I havent seen any evidence the scripts are boring besides people posting english lines.
>>12400000Not retro but in final fantasy 14 there's this thing called a 縮退炉 which is one of those scifi things. Basically a black hole was used to convert mass into energy with no energy loss. In the english this is changed to a combustion engine and they do the combustion engine for babies "mini explosions" explanation. So the EN is actually dumbed down compared to the JP.
>>12400005Weebs really have tinted glasses for nipnips lol.
>>12399990What was he saying I bet whatever(lol) it was didn't sound as cool as "whatever"
>>12400014>>12400019>japanese is boring, heres an english line to prove how boring japanese is. Oh the english line isnt a translation from the japanese? Well the boring english line must be better than the boring japanese line which we already confirmed was boring because of the boring english line I referenced as being better than the japanese it wasnt translated from.
>>12400005Oh cool were we talking about FF14 (not retro btw zoomer)>>12400004>Just look it up, it's there, I promise!>anyway here's a specific detailed example of something totally differentI accept your concession
>>12398489>that's why it's reddit Go fuck yourself. Being obsessed with shitting on reddit is peak reddit.
>>12400057namefagging is peak reddit
>>12400064it's a bot. one of the spammers is running these every couple days
>>12400024>Just look it up, it's there, I promise!are you saying that there dont exist videos on youtube where you can watch japanese gameplay and read the words on the screen? My assertion is the japanese isnt boring how do you want me to prove this? Are there boring tests that gauge boredom levels in rats that we can use?
>>12400090No I'm saying that>Source: GoogleIs something that the retarded kids did in schoolYou probably still won't even understand what I mean, thus providing additional evidence that you're retarded.
>presses F to fart and S to shit
>>12398539>>12398569Reminder: Working Designs requested gameplay changes because they were in the strategy guide selling business and didn't want you using any GameFAQs guide based on the Japanese version
>>12400304Yeah but you got a free poster and stickers with that guide
>>12400023That doesn't answer my question
Anglos have been shitting on foreign works since Jules Verne. It's your fault for not learning a less retarded language.
>>12400515And yet you were able to articulate this in English perfectly fine.
>>12400537>shitting>perfecr English
>>12400515Never said I made the right choices in my life.
>>12398489you just hate white people
>>12399997>reading Japanese is so difficult even for native speakers lol this is a new western insect cope I have never heard before Japan has a 99% literacy rate btw
>>12398178If it weren't for America, this joke could be about men with black hair.
>>12398178looking amazing
>>12400817There's tonnes of Japanese videos where someone goes on the street and asks them to write out kanji for stuff, and they just can't do it. No wonder they're a one party state when the average citizen can't even write "parliament".
>>12400550?
>>12401108I've seen those videos. 99% literacy my ass
>>12400817>Painting metaphor1. Translation, by necessity, alters the message anyway. The metaphor is inherently flawed.2. Depending on the game, game makers might not be attached to a specific dialogue line in the same way the painter is attached to his painting. Much dialogue in jRPGs is just boring filler. The stuff like the fart wind is dumb and egregious because it's a pivotal plot point you're forced to interact with, but finding the Kama Sutra in a random NPC's dresser is not important. The nuance is important.
>>12398189giga based autist but>>12399640this anon is correct
>is... is that... a regular line of dialogue in japanese????? this cannot be! i MUST replace it with edgy humor!
>>12401108Writing complex kanji from memory is harder than reading itYou probably can’t spell certain words correctly from memory either but you would recognize them in a sentence
>>12398178This is funny, thank you.
>>12401137>Did they REALLY just replace "I hope you have a good day" with "The women in this town really brighten up my day"????????>How DARE those imperialist American pics ruin the sanctity and beauty of the art within my 30 year-old game about teenage Japanese girls who got transported to an alternate dimension!
>>12401167One can incorrectly spell immeadiateley, sure, but it can still be recognised for what it means; a kanji "typo" for lack of a better word makes your writing unintelligible.
>>12401209Japanese really just needs to add spaces to the language and do away with kanji. Immediately the language would improve a hundred fold. Then they can distinguish between wa and ha because the same character shouldn't have two different sounds depending on if it's used after a subject or not because that's fucking stupid
>>12401178>I MUST ALTER ALL THE TEXT!
>>12401274>I MUST ENSURE THE GAME REMAINS BORING AND UNINSPIRED!
>>12401280>I *MUST* ALTER THE TEXT!
>>12401281Based.
>>12399610>Actually EVERYBODY agreed with me back then bar a small group of incels. P-Proof? N-No, they all moved on you see. Just blinked out of existence one day. But there were millions of them and they all agreed that I'm right!
>>12401315>Just blinked out of existence one day.Oh no, anon, they still exist. The game is still well-loved, including the WD script, and you'll still see people sharing fond memories of playing the game.The only difference now is that most RPG fans from back then are less likely to still be talking about a 90s JRPG translation, and less likely to have cared about the translation being faithful or not in the first place. That's inevitable. Now, perhaps that's not a great argument for translating the game this way or not. The point isn't to say that Working Designs did the right thing or not, but to emphasize that Lunar and its story was well-received despite, and sometimes because of, the changes made by WD. You don't need to ask me for proof, feel free to look up old reviews and discussions online. The game or its writing was appreciated more than not. It's a mistake to assume the script was hated on average, but looking at modern threads in places like /vr/ someone might unfairly get that impression.I've already stated my personal opinion - As a rule, I don't believe localizations should go so far changing things. Despite that, I still find the Working Designs Lunar script enjoyable for what it is.
>>12399759Taking the piss out of these boring and generic fantasy plots that plague most JRPS is kind of based actually.Making the games arbitrarily harder to sell strategy guides makes them deserve the hate tho.
>>12401441You also have to consider the average translation quality at the time. Compare Lunar to something like Breath of Fire II and it’s obvious why it was well received. Faithful or not, it simply reads better than most JRPG translations from that era.
>>12401441>>12401461Basically>The Working Designs PSX Lunar scripts were largely well received at release and often praised for their humor and personality.>Strongly anti-WD people existed even back then, but they didn't represent the dominant narrative surrounding the games>Those purists are now over-represented in modern discussions due to selection bias. Casual fans moved on, while the kinds of people who analyze 90s RPG translation fidelity didn’t.
>>12398178I wasnt able to finish alundra because of the horrible translation and balancing. I am still waiting for a fan re-translation with the proper original japanese balancing.
>>12401524Didn't like Bonaire? Honestly though, outside of him, the Alundra translation is more restrained than most of their translations. If you want the original balancing though, you can get the Unworking Designs patch for it already.https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=23436.0
>>12401538yeah I have been sitting on the unworking designs patch for a year now. some day I will try it again. I have already tried playing the game 2x and each time I stopped playing after like 15-20 hours. some of the missable stuff and some of the more obscure puzzles (moving the ice pillars for one of the optional? wands) were too much for me. the casino mini game which requires something like 6-8 hours of attempts to get the last golden statue was also something thats not particularly fun.
>>12401562Oh yeah, the ice pillar puzzles are probably the hardest puzzles in the game, especially that optional one. Took me longer than anything else at least. I agree on the missable falcons too, the window to grab some of them is annoyingly small and easy to mess up without a guide.
>>12401572it REALLY could have been a zelda killer but they somehow put some of the worst design decisions into the game. a game thats all about slow exploration and adventure shouldnt have fomo elements like missable items and bullet sponge enemies for no reason. I can look past the puzzles, especially the optional ones because the regular dungeon puzzles were not that bad but these other things drag the game down from a solide 9/10 to a 7/10 at best.
>>12401224>the entire language should be changed because my western smoothbrain is filtered by itok retard
>>12401660No, the entire language should be changed because it's notoriously difficult even for native Japanese, as others have pointed out. It's also incredibly redundant, with two alphabets sometimes being used to represent the exact same word in a sentence. Furthermore, the kanji don't have specific sounds. One kanji can mean both "ni" and "bi", even though there is another kanji that represents "ni". Kanji is a totally nonsensical solution to a problem that could've easily been solved if they just introduced spaces in their language. The French language has a group of grammarians that change and update the language to keep it modern. This is not a novel concept, you're just too obsessed with Japanese purity and culture to be objective even though you will always be an outsider to them.
>>12398569You mean the western ps1 version? Pretty sure sat SM stayed in japan.
>>12398539On the other hand, the intro songs for Silver Star and Vanguard Bandits they added kick fucking ass.
They do some shit, but i love the translation for Popful Mail(mostly). For better or worse, their early games feel like the vidya equivalent of localized anime.
>>12398539>her "wind" power in this case is actually her superpowered farts, and the party is required to wear a "filtration mask" to survive the trip or else you get a game over.That's so fucking god damn retarded that I actually like that idea, i'm going to have to give Vay a go sometime.
>>12400817All on-paper literacy rates are fucking bogus. The fact that the US literacy rate is also supposedly 99% already tells me everything I need to know, because as an American with ties to the American education system I know for a fact that true literacy is far, far lower than that. See pic related, the definition of "literacy" used in international literacy statistics is completely useless and entirely ignores reading comprehension and other important factors in literacy, so it includes the barely literate and the functionally illiterate because they can still technically read simple phrases and define the words even though the mildest complexity in the overall message/meaning would baffle them. I guarantee Japan's 99% literacy rate is based on reading simple phrases in their simplest alphabet and nothing more.
>>12402030>All on-paper literacy rates are fucking bogus.I meant to say on-paper TOTAL literacy rates.
>>12401960>The French language has a group of grammarians that change and update the language to keep it modernYou mean out of touch geezers:To chat on the internet>clavarderE-mail>courrielSpam>pourrielHot-dog>saucipainTo spoil a book/movie>DivulgâcherCD-rom>cédéromFax>télécopieIt's almost a fictitious employment.
>>12402075>>télécopiedo frogs even say this? i've seen them using ''Fax'' like normal humans do
>>12402030Africa is to high, that's how you know its fake.
>>12402120They're supposed to say this instead of fax. It's also used on business cards, etc.
>>12402075>saucipain>Le terme « saucipain », désignant une variante française du hot-dog (saucisse dans du pain), n'est pas répertorié dans le dictionnaire officiel de l'Académie française.So what other dumb shit did you make up?>They decided that email is... COURRIELOkay, who cares? They've been active for hundreds of years
>>12402131My bad, saucipain is the Quebec version.
>>12402134Nigga it is extremely rare. Every Canadian frog I've seen simply says un hot-dog
>>12398990Holy fuck she's nuts.
>>12402126India too
>>12398178I didn't like how they removed the naming feature, probably because they were lazy to do the script in a way to accomodate player choice for the english VA.Sadly>>12398371>Uum without Working Designs we wouldn't have those games released in the west.Is right. There had to be compromises to be made back then. Particularly because during that time unless you were FF, most RPGs were seem as too weebish.
>>12402140kek this reminds me of a brazilian coworker i had who would pronounce hotdog as hotch doggy
>>12398178Didn't even Kojima get so pissed when he found out what that fucking Jew nigga Jeremy Blaustein did to the MGS1 script translation that he never hired him again?
>>12398178Wow you even found a way to bring this culture war faggotry to a board on 20 year old games
>>12398189Based
>>12401960Spaces don't solve the kanji problem. Spoken Japanese only has like twenty different sounds so every word has multiple homophones that are distinguished by pitch accent and context (everything is distinguished by context). You can go play earlier jrpgs that both didn't have the text resolution or spare texture space to fit in kanji so the language is what you want, all kana with spaces. It doesn't make it easier to read.
>>12403438>Kama with spaces doesn't work>Gives an example of where it worksNani??
>>12403462kana with spaces "works" only in games made for elementary school kids where they intentionally limit the vocabulary used
>>12403467Except that all kanji CAN be represented as kana with spaces>It's only for children with limited reading abilityThe point was that replacing kanji with kana + spaces would make the language easier to read and raise literacy rates. Somehow, you're trying to argue against that point while continually proving it true
>>12398489>it's reddit to reference a movie that came out decades before it was a thingDo your family a favor and jump in front of a moving train
>>12403438>distinguished by pitch accentDepends on the dialect
>>12398189S
>>12403667>it's reddit to reference a movie that came out decades before it was a thingyes, pop culture referenes shoved into a game for the sake of being ''quirky'' is pead redditsee Fallout 2 for example it's common for /vr/ to call it ''reddit''
>>12398991Airplane (1980) wasn't the origin of the term "tall, dark and handsome."
>>12403809>Directed by Jim Abrahams, David Zucker, Jerry ZuckerSloppy job.
>>12403815This wasn't funny the first time you posted it.
>>12403801>the sake of being ''quirky''The fuck does this even mean? Whats the difference to throwing in a reference to something you enjoy(something that has always existed across geeky/mainstream media, even jap shit), and adding a reference for the sake of being quirky?
>>12398371What other western companies were calling up random jap companies to try and get stuff released overseas?
>>12403857>oh man i sure do love The Office it's so funny and reddit! wait a sec... since i am working on translating this JRPG set in feudal Japan what if i include some refenences to The Office! yeah that would so hecking awesome!scum like you deserve the rope
>>12403945Imagine being so bitter that you dont like a game company, you foam at the mouth in rage whilst typing on an anonymous retro game forum in a thread about said company that you know you don't like. What a life!
>>12404052>don't criticize inaccurate lazy translation! just consume whatever fan fiction tier localization written by rejected authors and failed jornalists!!!
>>12398178Yeah it sucks that they messed with the games so much, but I actually enjoyed their shitty humor more often than not. I think if you go in with the right mindset, the games can still be really enjoyable
>>12403945Was it ok when japs fill the original script for Mario RPG with anime references? Get mad about the source of the reference, otherwise you are going to get pissed about most games for simply daring to have a geek dev include something they like.
>>12403472>The point was that replacing kanji with kana + spaces would make the language easier to read and raise literacy rates.the concept of 振り仮名 existed for like 500 years, stick to french or whatever you speak and let the japanese do japanese.
Still not as objectively bad as modern trannylations are. Can anybody share that one crazy screencap from /v/ explaining in detail how the FE:Engage's garbage localization by Treehouse was directly responsible for the conservative party's effortless victory in last year's Japanese elections?
>>12403472It is much harder to read kana than kanji if you've actually learned the languGe
You ever notice how everyone else here is just discussing games but rpg threads are always>SJWS FROM THE 90S ARE KILLING GAMES>MY ANCIENT SLOP IS BETTER THAN YOUR COMPLETELY UNRELATED ANCIENT SLOP>HERES A PERMANENT GENERAL ON AN XBOX 360 GAME THAT I ALREADY MADE ON 14 DIFFERENT BOARDS AND BUMP FOR LITERAL DAYS, ITS TOTALLY RETRO>JUST PICKED UP A GAME DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER PLAYED A VIDEO GAME BEFORE AS PER THE DEVS, HOW DO I CONQUER THIS MONUMENTAL OBSTACLE>HERES 3 THREADS ON MY TUMBLR SCHIZOFAN FICTION ON FF8 THAT IVE ALREADY REPOSTED 2538 TIMES>IM A 47 YEAR OLD MAN AND I HERES THIS RANDOM GRAB BAG OF MECHA ANIME REFERENCES IN XENOGEARS TOTALLY CHANGED MY LIFE WHEN I WAS A TEEN
>>12404421you ever notice how there are a lot of posters that enter rpg threads (and threads like these that are not rpg threads) and talk about how much they hate rpgs? Really says a lot about those people.
>>12404427Bruh don't pretend like people can't see this shit for what it is. You're gunna flood the whole board with this shit and you know it
>>12404430tell us again how much rpgs arent games so I can quote you in all caps>LE RPGS ARENT GAMES, LE DENSITY OF GAMEPLAY I AM A TRUE BIG BOY GAMERyou literally arent even in an rpg thread and youre having a meltdown over rpgs. Get a job.
>>12403857>>12403801>>12403667>>12398489You say "reddit" but you actually mean "normalfag".
>>12404481How much longer until you start rolling out the Twitter screencap threads
>>12404489no, redditors are not normies and will never be, they the pretentious pseud fags normies dislike and distance themselves from them for example no one ever on /vr/ called a San Andreas or God Of War reddit, these are normie games through and throughreddit games are slop like Okami, Ico, God Hand...
>>12404592Bringing up unrelated mainstream crap is also normalfag
>>12404606None of the normalfags i know do this, the extremely uncomfortable to be around autistic do this a lot though
>>12404613Wannabe "nerds" do it
>>12404606the joke in the OP is from Airplane movie, a shitty goyslop normies never watched (except maybe seeing some shorts on Tik Tok)
There's a reason why back in the late 90s, the internet gave them the nickname "Wrecking Designs".
>>12404064Exactly. This guy knows it
>>12398178>says its reddit>when its obviously 4chan
>>12404405>It is much harder to read kana than kanji if you've actually learned the languGeHow does that even make sense? Kana is phonetic. Kanji isn't. For what you're saying to be true, it would have to be easier to understand written kanji than spoken Japanese (hint: it isn't)Kana is de facto easier than kanji, even for native speakers. If they encounter a new word in kanji, you simply don't know it -- you don't know how to pronounce it, you don't know what it means. Your argument is entirely illogical. Because kana is phonetic, it's easier to read.
>>12404592>reddit games are slop like Okami, Ico, God Hand...>reddit games are umm ackshully the games that /v/ used to love 20 years agoGod you're such a zoomer newfag tourist retard
>>12398178You're an underage faggot repeating what retarded weebs want you to think.
>>12404628The worse kind of redditors
>>12402030Okay retard keep coping
>>12405602>trusting ccp statistics
