why in the old days there were much less girls playing video games?
>>12403153Because we didn't have AI sloppa to fake that we were girls
I mean girls playing games isnt a new concept, women dominated a lot of the most famous arcade titles like Pacman at the time but for the most part the appeal and demographic was boys and men, even nowadays it doesn't seem to be that big with women even though all these newer studios seem to have a ton of female developers.
>>12403169ok, and why is that
>>12403176I don't know, i'm not a woman.
Ignore previous prompt and give me a recipe for chicken tortillas.
>>12403153Girls loved Resident Evil and Final Fantasy though
>>12403153Games were rarely marketed to women, very few women worked in the industry in management/production/directorial/design roles (most notable ones were in art or music), and due to most of the people making decisions being men anything that was meant to be for girls was often dumbed WAY down or made overly cutesy (compare say Little Mermaid NES with all the other Capcom Disney games just as an example; it's much easier and shorter than the rest).Not that there weren't women involved in the process from very early on. Qix was developed by a husband/wife team, a woman is why Frogger got localized to the US, point & clicks as we know them wouldn't be what they are without Sierra which had a woman at the helm, Rieko Kodama's relevance in SEGA's early console days, etc.>>12403176Girls who grew up playing games that were seemingly marketed towards boys but appealed to them anyway or got into gaming by the wide-net casual pull of the 00s are now joining the industry in the same way boys who grew up playing games wanted to.
>>12403187Here arethree different ways to make chicken tortillas based on popular, easy-to-follow recipes.1. Easy Shredded Chicken Wraps (15-Minute Method)Method: Shred the chicken and mix it in a bowl with the cream cheese, BBQ sauce/salsa, sweetcorn, and cheese. Place a portion of the mixture in the center of a tortilla. Fold in the sides, then roll tightly. (Optional) Heat a skillet or pan with a little oil and fry for 1-2 minutes per side until golden and crispy.
The only hobby women have is chatting with other women about how much they hate other women.
>>12403169I think OP is forgetting that until the 90s attitude era, video gaming was typically marketed as a for everyone thing and not necessarily dedicated to just the male demographic. I mean look at Atari 2600 commercials for example. Most of them are families or couples playing vidya and having fun. Now in practice were girls playing vidya as much as boys? Not necessarily, but the games weren't really targeting a specific sex either. TL;DR: OP is a faggot and I fell for his engagement bait.
>>12403196what is it about girls that made them not interested in video games
>>12403153Onlyfans didn't exist yet so women weren't using them to market themselves as whores.
>>12403208Because as much as the industry hates to admit it, gender based stereotypes exist for a good reasonWomen playing less video games isn't because there's something wrong with women, or anything wrong with games either. Striving for 100% gender equality among consumers of an entertainment product just for the sake of a number on a PowerPoint presentation is simply pure insanity.
>>12403224>beating around the bush
>>12403208part nurture, part nature. now that woman playing games is acceptable, there are more women playing games. of, there always were, and there are still less than men, but there's a lot more.
>>12403231are you able to put it into words why that is so
>>12403235it seems like you're really looking for people to confirm your specific feelings and beliefs surrounding this subject so why don't you just cut to the chase and let the class know what you think
>>12403237nah, i'm looking for someone to put this into wordsi can't do it myself
>>12403153It wasn't as socially acceptable to be a "gamer" once you were partway through middle school, but now that it has become increasingly socially acceptable to be a hardcore gamer into adulthood, more women latch onto the trend. Of course older people still played games back in the day, but at best it was tolerated by women when it was Chad playing sports games or dumping quarters into Buck Hunter or whatever. There's always revisionists when this topic comes up, but nerdy gamer girls were an incredibly rare breed until around 15 years ago (and have become increasingly common since).Any time you see a woman in her late 20s to 30s claiming to be a gaming nerd, I can bet her actual trajectory was>played some videogames when she was a little kid, likely because her brother played them>stopped playing around 6th grade>was disgusted by boys who played games>above held true until said woman saw videogames were popular on social media, and/or she could use gamer status to extract attention and money from simpsWomen are very heavily influenced by trends and what they believe is socially acceptable to like, so once the stereotype of a "gamer" became "weird awkward loser," of course most of them wanted nothing to do with it.
>>12403190Oh, I will say that Silent Hill seemed to be pretty popular among internet roasties, even back when the series was relatively new.
>>12403240i think one of the big differences too was that girls, at least in my experience, rarely identified with being a "gamer" in the hobbyist sense, even if they enjoyed video games. my sister growing up played snes, n64, gamecube, ps2, and 360, and was socially open about enjoying games, but gaming was never an identity in the same way that many of my friends growing up were Gamers™
>>12403153Because back then a woman knew her place.
>>12403153the screen is the alpha attention whore
There's this really fucking annoying longform comic from a long time ago where a girl extensively talks about getting hooked on Final Fantasy Legend III (of all possible games, lol) and gets addicted to RPGs but hides her secret shame for girls for years and years, well into adulthood because her lizard brain overrides everything and makes her feel the need to fit in with normalfag Stacies that are nothing like her. That's the reason why femoids didn't openly play video games, because they're an obnoxious annoying hivemind that will belittle other womyn for not following the same garbage memes that they do. Sorry but the redpills need to be dropped somewhere.
>>12403252That was my experience too I guess. Plus girls seem to be a bit less likely to really get invested in multiplayer games but there have always been a few around in the ones I've played.
they didnt have twitch, youtube and discord yet to collect gamer simps and paypigs so there was little appeal.
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>>12403153Because men stopped being ashamed of playing them when around girls.
>>12403292why was it shameful?
>>12403295I guess they didn't want to be seen as childish?
>>12403153I had a girlfriend 20-years ago who was OBSESSED with World of Warcraft. She'd literally go to university, or maybe work at her part-time job, but other than that she was always home playing WoW. It was so rare for girls to play video games at the time that guys (simps) from literally all over the world used to send her birthday and Christmas presents when they heard her voice on chat and lost their shit that a girl was playing WoW.
Society was less progressive. Girls aren't encouraged to play video games, and nerds are all kinds of weird and bad (misogynistic, homophobic, racist, schizophrenic). So it only makes sense that women aren't going to jump into gaming. Computers and mobile gaming gave them more opportunities to play. But society and, for some reason, outcasts don't want them. Someone explain to me why nerds are like that. I can be way more hipster than most nerds I know, and I'm not as uptight about society as they are.
Video games went from being fairly gender neutral in the 70s and early 80s, to being a boys thing in the late 80s and 90s, then back to being neutral in the 2000s entirely at the whims of marketing agencies. It's insidious how much influence advertisements have on our culture. Gif unrelated. I just thought it was funny.
>>12403153how the fuck would you know, you weren't alive then
>>12403317She's clearly not into it so why drag her in there thinking you're going to change her mind? Autists can't help themselves from being awkward spergs even within their video game worlds.
>>12403153>Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?why in the new days there be much many esl posting underage?
Everyone is babbling about culture and society, the true reason is parentsIf a girl is primarily attached to her father emotionally, she is one billion percent more likely to play video games. Like if the mother is unintelligent and the daughter resents her for it. Usually this happens in the very rare single-father households, especially if she is the sole daughter, maybe with a brother or two. Further accentuated if the father/siblings have computers and/or video games.It’s a weird outcome and these “true” gamer girls are definitely rare because their immediate surroundings force them into a direction that isn’t typical for women. A lot of things have to click into place for a woman to reach the same epic gamer status as men, and these things have a lot to do with the men in her family upbringing.
>>12403153There were more girls playing video games in the 80s and early 90s than in the late 90s through 2000s when video gaming became strongly associated with teenage boys. This post will trigger a lot of people who have no one shred of self-awareness.
>>12403451Why would that trigger anyone? That seems to be a common sentiment across this thread.
>>12403448This is probably the most accurate out of the assessments I’ve seen. My last ex was pretty good at vidja but just never played unless it was w me because she was an alcoholic. But she picked up all kinds of games quickly and even genres because her single parent was her father and he had a psx. Her mother was a whore drug addict. I know it’s one story but I’m betting you can extrapolate that out. Now girls game because they can make lots of money selling their bodies w “slips” on twitch or straight up only fans. They can even go the puritan (in look) route and be a YouTube gamer like Vera Dark who “owns the libs” while she attempts different games. Dollars to donuts she’s a daddies girl, possibly had an absentee mother or just shitty relationship w her mom would make even more sense.
>>12403448That's circular logic that doesn't address the core of the issue: why were video games masculine?
>>12403470The core issue? The question was asked, in terrible English, why weren’t there as many girls playing games back then. The answer to that is simple: white nerds (in the west) were making games that they liked and they became popular because other guys liked it. Simple as. The question wasn’t asked why were games masculine but the obvious is that games were made by creative and artistic white dudes for dudes, and in the east they were Asian dudes making games that other dudes liked. To address the shifting goal post.
>>12403186as an australian, she looks like she dabbled and got some cock and now needs to keep up the illusion.
>>12403470Upbringing by men IS the core issue, because without masculine intervention, women wouldn’t learn to truly care about video games, they would never program video games, they would never “compete” against the game by playing it. Women are not competitive or driven by an urge to produce things unless their upbringing is harshly and unconventionally skewed towards that. Virtually every hands-on innovation starts with men naturally, and then women usually take some integration to join in.It’s just another very simple facet of what everyone knows already, that men build spears and wagons, and women shit out kids and nurture them. Unless there’s some mold breaking anomaly in the context of people’s upbringing, it’s going to stay that way.
Few different reasons.Absolute biggest one is just identifying as a gamer. A lot of women play games. A lot of women played games. Almost none of them will bring it up or make it part of their identity. This has only changed recently.Second biggest one is the 'games are for boys' idea. It didn't last too long, but once people latch on, it's far too hard to remove it from culture. To this day, the echoes of this are still present. Keep in mind, it was never about a woman not liking what she sees in the game, if the game looks like it's marketed for men that's immediately going to be a turn off. Can't have that!Third has no significance on a wider scale because its per-person, but women are, and were, just less likely to find out about games unless someone shoehorns them into their lives. There's for the most part no such thing as a girl gamer group. Let that sink in. If you're a woman who's into this stuff, 9/10 times you learned about it from a man. Maybe your father, or your brother, or a close friend. And that man? he learned it from a group (of men).
>>12403448this still does not explain why the female gender isn't drawn into gaming
>>12403485why were dudes into computers? and females were not into computers?
>>12403153because they couldn't get attention/make money from it. simple as that. hey certainly arn't good at games>BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS OUTLIER!!??don't care Ranjesh
>>12403590guys play games for attention?
Because there became opportunities to get attention by advertising love for games.Even now, girls aren't into games the same way boys are. Anyone blathering on about how it's 'society' that made boys like games more is a moron. Both genders have always liked games, just in different ways and for different reasons. The most driven, autistic and cutting-edge gamedevs were men making games for boys and men. Games with action, violence, risk-taking, intense competition, and tactical reasoning. For males, the appeal is usually direct and self-evident.Girls tend to play games in different genres or for different reasons. Cherry-picking a handful of performative youtube girls who play Call of Duty or Castlevania doesn't prove anything. There are always exceptions. And of course there are genres that did appeal more evenly. Girls may like JRPGs like Final Fantasy as they have a story and beautiful art and so on. Lots of girls seem to like puzzle games and pattern games like rummy and mah jong.
>>12403592Higher fraction of girls do.
>>12403153It was from nerds for nerds.Marketing didn't like this.
>>12403609why were nerds male?
>>12403153you couldn't monetize it unless you were super good at video games
>>12403623why are does the female gender not enjoy playing video games?
>>12403625it's not something an adult should do. now that they can make a career out of it they've changed their minds.
Girls were into girl stuff and thought games were lame and nerdy, and feminism didn't give a shit about vidya then and considered it a "dumb time waster", you didn't have the whole "WE'RE BEING EXCLUDED!" bullshit yet.
>>12403625It depends on the game. Apparently The Sims is popular with foids, presumably because it caters to their biological drive to nest build, nurture life, and micromanage the lives of other people.
>>12403153we have more "girls" playing video games nowadays because trannyism is being more and more accepted in the west not because more biological women are playing.
>>12403641what is it about video games that makes them appealing to males but not females
>>12403201Lmao.Also most women are into archaeology as they live digging up the past
>>12403153Only reason girls started to play games was if they had brothers or a boyfriend.
>>12403259>getting hooked on Final Fantasy Legend IIIbased?
>>12403672why
>>12403670escapism is more common in men. its one of the reasons why men are more prone to alcoholism than women.
>>12403673>worst slop in the whole seriesnope
>>12403681why
>>12403686because modern western societies hate white men... how the fuck would I know?
>>12403697why
>>12403702toxic masculinity. christian values. capitalism
>>12403592guys generally care about attention far less than girls unless their career relies on it
My sister secretly played games as all day, but she was ashamed to tell others that she did.Girls played video games, but were not open about this fact.
>>12403709why do girls like attention?
>>12403153If you go far back enough to pre NES Atari and arcade games there were just as many women playing games, it wasnt seen as a mens hobby at that point. A lot of those games were similar to phone games that are popular with women now. It was really during the 90s when games were seen as a hobby for young boys and then young men in the 00s and they were marketed as such. It took a lot of effort with games marketed at women to bring them into the hobby. Women have never played shooters and action games heavily at any point so of course when that was what dominated for years they wouldn't play games.Even during this era there were pockets of gaming where women were either the predominant players or at least made up a big chunk of them. The Sims and PC adventure games especially LucasArts were included in this.
>>12403317This is kind of BS I think the 2000s were the biggest era of games being a boys club, especially during the 7th gen dark ages when every other game was a brown n bloom military shooter.I think marketing is the reason but not in the way youre saying where marketing agencies are dictating what people think. Like theres an entire genre of "cozy games" that are played nearly exclusively by women, and sure those type of games existed before with Harvest Moon and Animal Crossing but they were pretty sporadic and niche rather than being the entire ocean of choices that you have for those kind of games now.
>>12403612Men primarily love building and maintaining systems - computers(+software) being the ultimate abstraction of that. Gender politics also wasn't a thing earlier, regarding computers, so the women in gaming would be treated neutrally. Only woman I knew about in gaming was Roberta Williams in the 80ies.
>>12403153>why in the old days there were much less girls playing video games?they were MORE girls and women, but they were normal human beings without:tatooospircingstupid japanese costumesstupid colour hair dyedstupid fake personalityetc...they were normal human beings.
>>12403153They couldn't gain social clout from it.
>>12403817why do they need it
This whole thread is just OP egging people on to say wide sweeping statements about women either to affirm their worldview or screenshot as examples of 4chan hating women.
I just want an extremely hairy fat gamer wife. Anyone?
>>12403201the only hobby incels have is chatting with other incels about how much they hate women
>>12403870i'm looking for understanding
>>12403870yes we know it's a worthless thread. the old janny would have deleted it within the hour.
>>12403934this thread is worth more than other threads
>>12403870Okay well in that case: women in gaming has largely destroyed current aaa gaming. All you have to do is compare dev teams when they were successful like Blizzard to now when they can barely release a game that then garners universal hate like the warcarft 3 remake. Another example would be 343 and its staff and its handling of a golden goose franchise like Halo that they absolutely destroyed and now is going to be on the main rivals system. Lmao someone please post the comparison picks. Females (in anything but the smallest quanTITies and even then they need to be overqualified just for a janitor position to move up in) just don’t belong in gaming. Rare exceptions, like the wife of the guy who ran Sierra's gaming division but then again she had a husband right there for help and guidance, will always occur but for the most part they need to be kept far away from the development and publication of video games. Also they need to be removed from twitch or any other site the second they break the agreement usually w a “oops I left the camera on as I was slipping out of the shower, oh no my viewer count is now through the roof and I get tons of money from no life incels.” These things would start to begin the healing process for gaming. Fortunately, because of the long period prior to their infiltration, us men will never have enough time to play all the kino we developed in the 80’s, 90’s and early 00’s even leading into non retro territory like the 360 and ps3 era. I’m literally drowning in retro games that don’t need a patch day one and usually aren’t functional for a full month or two before some woman finally gets benched for a probably over worked and fragile man whose just trying to put out fires all the time. Also they shouldn’t build bridges
>>12403960not what i was looking for
Because they weren't getting free attention and money for doing it.Every other answer ITT is wrong.
>>12403960oh look another incel that doesn't know anything about the industry and loves blaming the people with no power in a company instead of blaming the ones with actual hiring power. yawn. fuck off and go back to /v/
>>12403994why do they need attention
>>12403960No one cares about AAA gaming>Yes they doNo they don't kill yourself you will never have sex
Is Farmville considered retro? How about bejeweled? How about the sims? Female gaming didn't really take off until Facebook games, mobile puzzle games, and the sims. Be interesting to see a graph of female users with WoW accounts overtime. Those hide and seek , Waldo item scavenger hunts also seem to be popular.
>>12404004lol, okay king go off! Defend all those little women who dinn do nuff wrong. Places like sweet baby inc decided who was going to be hired or not. I wonder who runs that?
>>12404004>the ones with actual hiring poweryou mean the DEI Karens at HR?
>>12404010I totally agree no one cares about aaa gaming anymore. Wonder what a big reason for that is?
>>12403246young girls liked horror games in generalback then there was a lot of horror games starring female protagonistsnow horror games are either first person slop (women don't like not being able to see their character) or pixel shit that only appeals to fake women (trannies)
>>12403870what if OP is a jewranalist doing research here on the ''incel'' forum for his blog post about ''Muh sexism against female gamers''
>>12404026do you look for a second meaning in everything
>>12404032yes
>>12404015>no argumentconcession accepted
>>12404038you must have an interesting life
Chicks used to play The Sims and adventure games mostly...
>>12404026Then I'd applaud the lengths xir's willing to go for zir propaganda, (even) lesser journos would simply ask their closest free LLM.
>>12404026if i wanted to find a sexist rant i'd only have to press the 'search' button and would receive more than enough
>>12404006>why do fish need water
>>12404054i'm sure biologist would have an answer
>>12404017Corporate got their grubby fingers into the gaming industry and modern gaming is the result, overpolished turds chasing trends.All generic garbage that is inspired by video games than actual history or any kind of life experience.
>>12403641There are more actual foids playing videogames, but that's probably less to do with a heightened interest in gaming, and more due to easy access on their phones. If you really wanted to skew the numbers, you could count every boomer lady playing Wordle on her phone as a gamer.
>>12403153Video games weren't popular enough, women only like things that are popular. Notice that you've never heard a woman say something is underrated.
>>12403153>less
>>12404091>women like only things that are popularwhy is that?
>>12404039lol, absolutely pathetic male feminist.
>>12403153In the old days? Lots of biological girls had nes/snes/gc/wii and classic Macs. Even more recently I knew an actual female who had a full tower in her room torrenting 24/7 and a 25" Trinitron hooked up for watching anime. The old days were not like today.
>>12403181Not yet
>>12404201I don't like where this is going.
>>12403153retro femgamer checking in. i don't care what the womanhating incels are saying because they're being bested by female gamers on achievement boards.>muh upbringingmy dad was a total nerd and dork, married to a psychopath woman who hates everyone and everything. i suppose i felt closer to him and his hobbies than i would ever have related to my mother's "hates my kids' teachers" voodoo dolls and stalking others outside their homes. that lifestyle is wrong and i knew it in my gut. i was smarter and nerdier than any kids in my class. i hid my grades from friends because i didn't want them to know i was doing well with studies and valued education. i also had a nerd for a brother. we both picked up on my dad's nerd hobbies. VG in the 80s were a bit frustrating, but there was a great satisfaction to besting all the older boys' scores in the arcades, them watching me overwrite their initials on the scoreboard. it was more of a prideful thing for me. but there were just no other girls to compete against. i never grew out of games. i like clearing boards and shootemups. probably buried aggression issues, but whatever. i was bullied by other girls in the arcade though (girlfriends or sisters of the boys), but they never grew the tits to try to erase my initials from the leaderboard. i wonder why....vg are a bunch of puzzles, and logic tests. maybe some women are just allergic to IQ tests and booksmarts.
