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How does shit like Genesis transparency and dithered effects look with RGB-to-Component on a consumer CRT? Or the pre-rendered backgrounds in PS1 games?
>>12418096I can save her.https://youtu.be/4BhriPw-Q1M?si=g4BGcHCM8zyMrNk3&t=91
>>12418096Where is a good place to find sets in decent condition? I've been burned twice on Facebook marketplace by taking TVs home and servicing them to find that the tubes are close to dead.One seller was selling a good sony Wega model for 50 bucks. She said the "picture is bit dim" so I asked her a bunch more questions then drove an hour and a half to pick it up. I plug it in there and the video doesn't even fucking turn on. Dumb bitchI'm willing to pay retard prices now if I can garuntee the set wasn't used for 40000 hours and doesn't have irepperable problems
>>12419903>doesn't test on spot
>>12419903potentially ebay if you dont care about price and want specific things. however, anything over 13" has a good chance of coming busted in the mail because people just don't pack them right.
>>12419903Go to great neighborhoods at the start of spring. I got two excellent CRTs that way, one a 19" the other a 13"-both with zero burn-in because they apparently belonged to some old lady.That was a good day. Perfect condition too on the both of them. Not even scratches.
the way it was meant to be played
>>12419903>>12420420Drive around the evening before garbage day. You can probably find the garbage schedule on your cities website.
>>12420458It hurts...
>>12418981>when you ask copilot how to fit in on the /VR/
>>12419903Go somewhere with houses 30+ years old, then find the nearest dump and ask. Everytime I drive past they have multiple CRTs shoved in giant metal bins, including widescreen Trinitrons and other rare stuff. They used to let me take them but then new management banned and threatened me.
Is pr0n better on a crt?
>>12422279only if it's retro pron
>>12422279Hentai OVAs and VNs yeah
>>12420458He posted it in both of the main crt groups and got clowned in comments lol
are those imac crt's worth picking up or are they dogshit compared to stuff like Dell's, Trinitrons, and viewsonic's?
>>12418402Finally one dude who doesn't take a picture one inch away from the screen
probably a bad idea but ive been playing Xenosaga on the ps2 emulator so I'm busting out my old CRT monitor, real curious how it'll handle it
>>12423826well it kinda works, im trying a ton of different settings. the 2d assets look much better and the character models dont pop out of the environments the way it does on the flatscreen which are both nice improvementsit might be a limitation of my DAC but I cant set a really low custom res to try and run it with integer scaling at the native res so it ends up looking blurry the same way it does on a flatscreen, honestly it feels like theres probably a solution that I'm not savvy enough to figure out but I'll keep messing with it
>>12418096I can't believe I'm asking this here, but how would I sell a 36 inch Trinitron and 27 inch Wega if I'm on the second floor of an apartment?
>>12423994a tough enough person could probably haul at least the 27 inch downstairs i feel like you'd need equipment for 36 maybe, in either case I'd probably just list it for sale with the caveat that whoever wants it has to figure out how to get it out
>>12423127Whats the best one of each bro
>>1242399436, you will have a tough time finding someone unless it's cheap. 27 can easily be moved by one person. Weighs 90 lbs.
>>12423994I moved a 350lb arcade cab downstairs by myself, so you can handle a measly 36" TV, or is Generation X just physically stronger than zoomers and alphas? I think we are.*yes I did have help, but he fucked me over on the stairs and didn't help. Bonus I look weak, and he looks strong.
>>12424078My fellow /vr/ denizens, please, as a weak-looking Gen X who made post 12424536, I implore you to do push ups and lift weights. You don't need to do a ton or lift tons, just be consistent. -t. much stronger than all of you and that scares me.
>>12424001>a tough enough person could probably haul at least the 27 inch downstairsI can't even pick the goddamn Wega up. It would have to be a tougher person than me. But even when I got the Wega, I think the seller used a handcart to bring it up.>i feel like you'd need equipment for 36 maybe, in either case I'd probably just list it for sale with the caveat that whoever wants it has to figure out how to get it outYeah, that one's going to be a problem. I asked someone I know if they could help me, and he used a handcart, but it was so difficult for him getting it up those stairs that he said he'd never deal with that Trinitron again.>>12424078>36, you will have a tough time finding someone unless it's cheap.Yeah, I'm thinking of just offering it for free. I could try and hire movers, but at that point, I'm practically paying to get rid of it.
I got a KV-20TR23 that turns on and works, and i have the RGB scart mod and everything done, but realized a 100k carbon resistor next to the flyback was totally disintegrated. Now i will have to wait a week while it arrives to finally test this bitch.I suffer to live in a small town with shitty electronics supplies.
>>12424550Go be a nigger somewhere else.
>>12423994>but how would IAsk a grownup to list it on ebay
>>12420458someone is selling an XBR near me and im tempted to pick it up but I wouldnt know where to put it
>>12418096Recently got a KV-E2961 I have to clean, recap and recalibrate. Thinking if I should replace my KV-25X1 with it...
Anyone here watch old TV on your CRT? What's your method for getting 240p? I tried running a media server off my PC and streaming the video to both my PS3 and 360 hooked up to my monitor but both ran like shit and had issues recognizing subtitle files.
>>12426609I realize I said 240p but those consoles only go as low as 480i which is fine. Most analog content is made for 480p and my BVM only does 15khz
>tfw haven't turned on my crt in over a month because I got an ayn thor and prefer the convenience of being able to suspend and play quickly
>>12426609>>12426617I do. Either older GPU or onboard with VGA out to RGB SCART or slightly less older GPU and HDMI or DP to VGA to RGB SCART. GPUs made in like the past 10 years usually don't support interlaced modes (at least AMD and Nvidia, on Windows, dunno about Intel or Linux).
>>12426825just like that? don't you need special gpu and crt emudriver?
>>12426853240p/480i are doable as super resolutions on lots of cards without any special drivers.I haven't used CRT Emudriver in like 15 years, so I can't help much about that.
>>12426617Most analog content is 480i though
>>12426609>>12426617FIY for just watching media, those cheap HDMI to composite Chinese adapters are *mostly* fine, unless you want to be super autistic.
>>12426609This is so performative
>>12426861Enjoy your horrid chink flickery 480i with horrible scaling.
>>12426861>>12427312NTA but I'm in the same boat, I'm looking to run HDMI to composite (micro HDMI actually, RasPi).I don't want to buy the first garbage that comes up in the search results, but when I tried to do research it was all just redditors screeching that TVs weren't meant for computers (no shit).Is there a middle ground that actually looks good without getting stunlocked on which use cases are heretek?
Is it worth recapping a CRT? I got a 20 inch Trinitron for 10USD including the original remote, and worked for a single day before going greenish with the classic horizontal lines of death. Many caps look in bad shape, but it most likely would have to replace all of them.Should i spend 30USD in new caps, plus a few days replacing them? or just cut my losses, resell the remote and just wait for a better shape one?
>>12427998Yeah fix it up. It's satisfying.
>>12426609yeah, almost every night. i use a modded ps3 because its simple and movian will play mkvs. 1080p stuff will play if the bitrate is low enough, but i either download or re-encode most stuff into a 480p mp4 or mkv file. i play everything location off an ssd but i've never had any issues with subtitles in movian. movian will also mount ntfs and exfat which is nice. one of the raspberry pis with composite out might work better for you.
>>12426629Why couldn't you do that on your CRT?
>>12427312As said, it's mostly fine if you output 480p and the flicker would be identical to other NTSC/PAL 480i modes. >>12427520If you use a Pi, you can use a RGB hat or the built in composite out.
>>12428047What do you use to re-encode?
so clearly they get an electric current to every pixel on your lcd monitorcouldn't they use the same tech to make an ultrathin crt that doesn't require a giant vacuum chamber and electron beam?
>>12428267Yes. That's called an OLED.
why doesn't my trinitron let me mess with geometry? "Reinitialize geometry" in the service menu does nothing. It's a kv-16wt1
>>12428267you're not going to deliver the kind of voltage required to get the phosphors used in CRTs to glow that way
>>12427998>>12428015Newbie here, what do you need to recap?
>>12418096Oleds are cheap now, you don't need CRTs anymore.
>>12428267>>12428269It's actually called SED.
>>12428330Different things for different media. You can have both.
got an old computer with an s-video output on the graphics cardalso got an s-video to composite cablewill i be able to just plug my PC into a CRT TV?
>>12428265just use ffmpeg
>>12428384ye but AFAIK it's generally impossible to get 240p output that way due to the onboard encoder pushing all resolutions into 480i
>>12428384>>12428410>onboard encoder pushing all resolutions into 480iThis is correct, you're stuck at default PAL or NTSC. Easier to do >>12426825 or CRT Emudriver.
>>12428315the capacitors on the main TV boardtheres like 40 of them at minimum in the older TVs, and like 70 on the newer models. And always start with the ones near the flyback which are the ones who die first.
>>12428394Mind sharing your settings? Tried it with some defaults and it wiped my subs
>>12428840I'm not that PS3 anon, but you gotta tweak the parameters for your use case and source material. Do the track mappings correctly and your subs should remain intact in the resulting file.I use ffmpeg for reencoding for playback on my PS2 (mostly old anime). My settings are xvid at 3000k bitrate (it's enough to avoid ugly artifacts, but you can experiment here), 640x480 for 4:3 sources, two pass encoding. Audio is 2ch mp3. I usually omit subs, but they can be mapped easily with -map 0:s or something similar depending on your input (check docs for syntax).Generally the ffmpeg docs are your friend, everything is explained there clearly. Once you get the hang of it, ffmpeg is very easy to control and integrate in scripts for batch convert.
>>12428971jeez imagine watching shit at these settings just to be performative and watch on a crt. ridiculous effort for period larping going on here.
>>12428971>all that because you don't bother getting proper hardware for the job
>>12428198>If you use a Pi, you can use a RGB hat or the built in composite out....it's a 400. MicroHDMI only as far as I can tell.I'm just trying to find out if there's a /vr/ approved HDMI to composite method that doesn't cost more than the computer it will be attached to.
>>12428330Oilkeks still have input lag.
>>12428265handbrake>>12428840typically:Choose preset "H.264 MKV 480p30">Summarycheck Align A/V start and Passsthrough common metadata>Dimensions Cropping, none. Resolution limit, 480p. Borders, none. Check 'Optimal size' under Resolution and 'Automatic' under Final Dimensions.>FiltersEverything off.>Video Framerate, same as source, variable. Quality, 20 to 23. Encoder Preset, Medium or Fast. Encoder tune, none. Encoder profile, main. Encoder level, 3.1.>AudioUnder "Tracks", click "Add all remaining tracks" if you're converting something an mkv that has multiple audio tracks, otherwise if there's one audio track it should already be present with a stereo mixdown.>SubtitlesUnder "Tracks", click "Add all remaining tracks". Click the "x" beside "Foreign Audio Scan" to remove it from the list.>ChaptersIf the file has chapters preset, they should already be in the list. If there is just one chapter showing, remove the checkmark beside "Create chapter markers".If you're doing a batch convert, click the arros beside "Add to queue" then click "Add all", then click "Start Encode" to convert them all. If you're just converting a single file, you can just go straight to clicking "Start Encode".>>12429008sometimes i record new movies or tv shows to a vhs tape and watch them that way :0)
>>12429903Crt waifus are the best waifus
>>12430000Digits of truth dont lie
Picked up a ps1 today and plugged it into my normal tv. Obviously doesnt look good so I went to my old room and turned on a sylvania crt. Jesus man the noise, I cant. It makes my tinnitus go insane. How i dealt with this when I was younger, I'll never know
>>12426609Just watch videos from a modded wii
>>12429903Posted it again award
imagine what could have been if vector displays took off
I have a small apartment, so I bought this ikea trolley so that the consoles and CRT are easily connected and I can move the whole thing to the closet if necessary. I just need to get a better quality RGB SCART splitter.
>>12430213I wonder how vector displays actually worked. I mean, yeah, obviously they were just CRTs, but the signals would've had to been entirely different to encode a starting point, direction, and length for each line.
>>12430227>obviously they were just CRTsthe deflection circuits were different from normal crts, you can't convert your television to a vector display just by modding the signal decoder
>>12429456RGB hat will still work though, you might have to buy a short extension for GPIO though for it to fit.
>>12428330It's not one or the either you fucking tard
>>12430000>waifus>skys
>>12430218>AES games in the backCome on, show us what you're hiding. Jelly of that Last Blade 2.
>>12430218>vertically mounted MD consolekino
>>12431180There aren't other AES games besides those, except for KoF '96, which was hidden on the left side — it's probably my personal favorite game in the series.It would be nice to own all the AES KoF games from '94 to 2000 someday. I don't really like Eolith's 2001 and 2002 but I understand that those games have their own fans.I also have some original loose MVS games, including Metal Slug and Mark of the Wolves, which I could never afford to buy in their AES versions.>>12431185I thought it fit well too. Leaves more shelf space for disc-drive systems.
This is the kind of shit why people let CRTs die.34USD for decent quality capacitors (no, these arent the black chink ones), when where i live most post 2000's CRTs are 10USD or less.
>>12431275huh
>19" CRT just arrived>hear rattling inside>oh boy better check before trying it>open it up>motherboard completely cracked in halfShame because it was in otherwise pristine condition. Looks almost untouched. And I know this is always the risk with buying monitors off ebay, but there literally hasn't been any options in my local area in like 15 years. After the refund gets confirmed, and presumably the seller isn't going to want to pay for return shipping of a giant heavy box of scrap, I'm going to take a stab at board repair. I know my way around a soldering iron, but this will be a huge undertaking. Luckily it's only a single-sided board, but that's still a lot of traces to fix
>>12431915This is a sign to give up the larp and just play on a modern screen like a real man.
>>12431953
>>12431915Shipping CRTs is asinine. Might as well throw them in the trash.
>>12431275Weird thing to bitch about. Hobbies cost money anon. Plus you're getting enough capacitors to do more than just one tv.
>>12432042I've had 3 CRTs shipped to me and each one was perfectly fine.
the speakers on a 13" dvd combo constantly emit a buzzing sound, turning the volume to zero makes the sound stop. anyone got any ideas on what would be causing it? I opened it up and inspected the speakers but they looked fine.
>>12432142lmao
>>12432189??
>>12432142ground loops, loose cables, or electrical interference
>>12429814Thanks, that worked>>12431241Good selection. Pic related is what I've got. Last Blade 2 is probably my "grail" as any of the big hitters like Garou are beyond my reach unless prices magically drop. I was too late to get into AES. (SSVS is a bootleg)
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>>12432142It can't be stopped and is normal. It's from something called the "flyback" that's connected to the tube itself. Get used to it or sell it to someone else.
>have great geometry on my tv>rotate the set so the back is now facing the right side so i can change component cables plugged into it>now the right side is bowing and the geometry is all fucked upwhat the fuck man. i barely moved the thing. i've tried triggering the degauss coil a few times to no effect.
enjoying your larp?
>>12418096CRT bros, a year or so ago my IBM G72's image started to wobble vertically all of a sudden, then it just went black and never recovered.Brought it out from the attic to check on it today. It turns on, recognizes when plugged into a computer (status light turns green) and is properly recognized by the computer, but nothing ever shows on screen. Not even OSD.Any ideas what's likely to be the issue?
>>12433174'ery noice
>>12433251The issue is you're trying to use a crt in 2026.Get an OLED.
>>12432706Very impressive. Samsho III would also be nice to own - I enjoy it more than the second one, no matter how unbalanced it may be. And yeah, I bought both Last Blades over decade ago at a very reasonable price; I would hardly buy them at today's prices. Last Blade 2 is probably my favorite fighting game after KoF '96.It will be interesting to see what happens to the prices of AES games, as they have always been a very marginal phenomenon. I have noticed that the prices of NES games have fallen at least slightly in Europe, which I suspect is due not only to problems with the PAL standard, but also to the fact that many of those who are nostalgic for the NES have grown tired of the hobby and younger people are not as interested in it or they don't have too much extra money in this economy to waste it on such frivolities
>>12433284performative post
>>12433284Why come into a thread about something you hate just to shit on it? Instead of shitting on it when it naturally occurs in conversations? It makes you sound really deranged and mentally unwell.
>>12433286Since the pandemic some AES games have been coming down in price. Pulstar was $2k in 2019 and people want $8k for it now; copies aren't selling at that price but I suspect people are holding some games as investment items and it'll take a few more years before we know what prices will settle at. Luckily a lot of the best titles are still pretty affordable. I'm actually thinking of getting rid of SS3 and RB as they don't get as much use as SS4 and RBSYou're not in the UK are you?
>>12433371Yes, we shall see. I have also been gradually selling off games I bought decades ago, but I will probably still keep the Neo Geo and Segas. And no; I'm from Finland
>>12432042I've bought PVMs off like 12 years ago when they were cheap and never had any issues.In this case it was purely the fault of the seller. Didn't use proper packaging, just some layers of bubble wrap. And even then it actually would've been fine had he not KEPT THE MONITOR STAND ATTACHED during shipping. Having that attached is what lead to the whole thing getting pushed up into the base and cracking the motherboard all over.Like I said, I've been keep an eye out locally for a long long time for a PC monitor and it's been no dice since forever. Shipping really is the only option. And in this case, I got a full refund from the guy after showing him the damage. The tube and other components look otherwise immaculate so it's worth trying to salvage.
is there an easy way to post a crt on offerup for maintenance work? I tried once already and got flagged cause it violates their tos for listings or some shit.
>>12433552Meaning you're looking for someone to work on your CRT? Offerup isn't the right place for that. The CRT Faceberg group is where the discussions are.
>>12433718gotcha, I look into that
>>12427998the caps will go sooner rather than later regardless of the one you buy. Probably worth just doing it and having a working CRT for the next 15-20 years.
Do you think this will be any better than bottom of the barrel Amazon converters?
>>12434819that is a bottom of the barrel amazon converter
>>12427998I just recently fully recapped my 32" trinitron. I wanted to get around to doing an RGB mod for the thing for a while but just kept putting it off. When I decided to commit, my thought process was "well I have to go inside to do the mod, might as well go all the way and redo all the caps while I'm in there."It's a lot of work. The actual recapping isn't that hard (although removing the old caps is a pain) but the actual work is analyzing all the boards, cataloguing all the capacitors, coming up with a parts list of replacement caps on digikey, making sure to get high quality low ESR ones for particular components, etc. Is it absolutely necessary? If you're not seeing any overt issues with the CRT then probably not. But I'm glad to have peace of mind that it's now in the best shape it's going to be, and that I won't need to worry about anything else with the TV again.
>>12434835300% big box store tax.
>>12434857performative
>>12434868yeah it performs great, very happy with how it turned out
>>12434857why are trinitrons so blue
>>12435067just a quirk of the camera. It's hard to accurately take photos of a CRT, especially from far away.
applying dielectric grease fixed the arcing inside my TV
>>12435112
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>>12435112nice greasy hole, anon
>disposing of an old TV>swing hammer's claw point as hard as I can at the face of the glass>it bounces off>I go to grab ear protection before the next swing
Found a pc catalog from 2003 and CRT monitors are cheaper than I expectedWeren't they harder to manufacture than flat panels? The only non CRT is the TFT oneGranted that inflation since 2003 would probably mean this costed more than twice in today's worthless money
Any idea why they didn't make CRTs with dandruff in mind? How do y'all keep it from sticking to the screen.
>>12435896I take showers
PS3 Media Server is absolutely essential for any CRT owner. Especially if you have a massive hard drive that can hold the entirety of Dragon Ball Z Color Corrected (it's an over 1TB torrent).
>>12435805economies of scale and all that. And early LCDs would've been relatively more expensive because of initial costs of opening new production lines, recouping R&D costs, the simple fact that you can get away with marking up the price of New Thing(TM), etc
How do you get 60hz analog out of a pal ps3?
>>12435112Holy hell you used a lot of grease
>>12436772Main reason I haven't tried ps3 for media is a raspberry pi can do the same thing with a smaller profile and less noise/heat.
>>12436782https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnnfsD6-bIYhaven't tried this myself, but i'll give it a try once my RGB SCART cable arrives.NTSC games will often output 480i 60hz automatically. not sure how homebrew like movian handles it.
>>12436807The Pi is a nice alternative if you have a good remote/wireless controller for it. I already have mine set up to use RetroPie though and I don't have a wireless controller lying around for it (I use an arcade stick normally).
>>12436772I should clarify Universal Media Server is what you want. It's an updated fork of the same program but it works much better without stuttering, buffering, and other stupid bullshit on more demanding videos.
>>12419903I've had the best luck at Goodwill and other thrift stores, especially thrift stores that are associated with churches. Even if they don't have any TVs at the moment, introduce yourself and leave your number. I've had plenty of callbacks over the years. They're usually very eager to get rid of the bulky TVs.
>>12436782It switches automatically if you play an NTSC Region 2 or ALL DVD (e.g. Japanese). I think you need CFW to force it otherwise.
>>12436772I just ran another cable to my HTPC. I just change the primary display to the CRT when I want to use it.overscan isn't as bad as you'd think.
>Set up CRT Emudriver on my main PC>Have to disable safe boot and enable testsigning to get image>Have to disable it every time I want to play onlineBack to using my raspberry pi I guess...
Just picked this KV-32V25 up for 8 bucks. Anyone know if it has that VSM plug that some of these sets have?I might mod it for component but I don't think the risk of breaking it is worth the minimal upgrade from s-video
