Why did the Big Box die out? They were perfect, great to display, contains tons of bonuses like manuals and extras.
The 00's was the start of the soulless era so video games adapted.
>>12437529mostly storage considerations from retail chains. to some extent also publishers cutting down on expenses
>>12437529Fat Gaben ate all the boxes.
>>12437529>Why did the Big Box die out?gay ben
>>12437545
no one is going to eat bugs or live in a pod if they have cool collectible game boxes to look at.
>>12437535>>12437536In other words, capitalism being dogshit as usual.
Convenience and Cost seems to be the law of the landWhy make big retail boxes which requires various materials + shipping when you can just 'ship' bytes over steam and people will pay you just as much hell even more
>>12437545>>12437554the big boxes were being replaced by DVD packaging years before Steam rolled out though
>>12437529dvd boxes were already used for consoles and big manuals could fit on a pdf or be removed and replaced with in-game tutorials
It is my belief that Microsoft did everything it could to destroy the PC video game market when they launched the XBOX. They made no money on PC games, not a cent. I have no tangible proof to back this up.
>>12437529Everything exists now to rip the consumer off as much as possible
>>12437579it's understandable you'd think that, but remember they had their #1 system seller ported to Windows. they're just retards stumbling in the dark
>>12437579Seems they didn't do a very good job. Which one is dead now? Xbox or PC?
>>12437586I was talking about the early to mid 00's you dipshit. You know, the topic at hand? On the retro board? The state of PC gaming was atrocious as soon as the XBOX entered the market.>>12437584Years after the fact. And did a cheap/poor job of it too. Which was one it was with console to PC ports at the time.
>>12437594>Years after the fact. And did a cheap/poor job of it too. Which was one it was with console to PC ports at the time.all of this is explainable by them being retards. unless you mean to say they ruined both Windows and the Xbox line on purpose
>>12437545Including your mom's.
>>12437529Nice
>>12437579Early 2000's PC gaming industry killed itselfEver worsening anti-consumer DRM schemes, in combination with the increasing separation between PC and console gaming lead to PC gaming becoming wildly unprofitable as consumers looked elsewhere for their gaming needsIt wouldn't be until the 2010's that the PC gaming industry would rise again as Steam finally took over as the future of PC gaming, along with PC ports of console games becoming more common to the point where they're now expected rather than an exception
>>12437529Big box pc games make me wanna cum.
For retailers, they like packaging that is smaller, because it lets them carry more inventory. For developers and producers, it's cheaper to make something smaller. For consumers, most people probably didn't want or need these giant packages that were board game sized. It just didn't make sense to keep them around. But really, "big boxes" are generally a pretty big outlier if you look at all computer games ever made. If you look at something decently old like Ultima 4, which famously had a lot of stuff inside the box, the box was still (fairly) modest. And as someone who owns big boxes, that stuff is mostly just cardboard that's housing a CD jewel case. It's pretty unnecessary.
>>12437662>this is what zoomers actually believe
>>12437717This. By the 2000s, they all just had a CD or DVD case inside.
>>12437717They take up too much shelf space.
>>12437529Steam.
>the shiny smooth embossed coversFeels good man
Steam and Gaben......saved PC gaming ;)
>>12437782More like it was a clean porcelain toilet, until companies shat all over it. Then Gayben came over and did a half assed job of scrubbing it, but it was still covered in shit, plus his own lighter coating of shit, but for newcomers that didn't know any better, that seemed fine.
>>12437529Steam
>>12437580It's just companies trying to make as much money as possible while spending the least amount possible, same as always. What's changed is that in the past it was thought that customers needed to be convinced that they were getting their money's worth, so they packed their products with goodies and extras or else made them with quality in mind, not because they truly believed this was the right thing to do or because they were crafting products with pride (though some did), but because it was considered necessary to make their products attractive.Then they realized the average consumer is an unthinking troglodyte who can be convinced to part with his money and further nickel and dimed through sheer psychological manipulation, so they cut costs and went that route instead.
>>12437743>mostly just mainstream gamesvery performative
>>12437881>Nooo you have to like obscure games made by a hungarian studio located in a village of 4000 people or you're performativekill yourself now
>>12437937>Nooo you have to like obscure games made by a hungarian studio located in a village of 4000 people or you're performativeYes.
Actual answer on why big box died, it wasn't Gabe, as Big Boxes were on their way out before steam meant anything. They died because most people threw out their boxes, and publishers found no use for putting anything actually interesting in game cases, save for manual and registration card that many people ignore anyways. By the mid 2000s they were replaced by gay ass plastic DVD cases.
>>12437881Have you ever considered that maybe the things that people say are good actually good?
>>12437951Sure, but it's boring to only see "hiden jems". Makes it seem inauthentic.
>>12437957huh? a good third of the games in his pic are 7/10 dudebro fodder.
>>12437550Absolutely retarded goybrain take.>You mean I need to access the internet to install this game?>Just like every single MMO ever made?
>>12438412Good goy, keep consuming steam DRM slop
>>12437743>zero tranime japslopkino collection
>>12437937Not Hungarian, but I actually have a boxed copy of Chasm: The Rift which I bought at Target back in the day.
>>12437743>Planet X3 >supporting the 8-Bit Goycringe
>>12438414>keep consuming steam DRM slop>he says, on a website that uses DRM to keep him from shitposting more of his retarded takesImagine not killing yourself, being as worthless as you are, lmao
It is funny to me how big box PC games have become such hot collector items, when for the longest time nobody cared about them at all, or really PC collecting in general.
>>12438423>goycattle seething enjoy your DRM :)
>>12437529>Die offDid they?I remember they were still being used until physical copies of PC games became a niche entirely.
>>12437743Giga patrician collection
>>12438424I bought some PC games in the early 2000s from second-hand shops, mostly DOS as I only had a low-end Pentium at the time, and they were very cheap, in the 1 to 10 euros range.
>>12437552Without capitalism there would be no videogames, period.
>>12438803Exactly; I mean imagine all the money the maker of Tetris made!
>>12438804presumably quite a bit after Microsoft hired him because of Tetris.
>>12437529CD cases and SecuROM.
>>12438412>a single player game is the same as my gay furry ERP shitstain
>>12437662One of the problems at the time was some part of the PC market was not really innovating that much. RPG's were arguably growing stagnant with popular franchises looking dated, a few games like Quake, Unreal, Half-Life, Call of Duty dominated the fps genre, adventure games and sims were dying out. When xbox was announced, everyone was looking to see what they could do for the console market and the "new" technology. It killed some PC companies (like Interplay). PC just didn't really look as good anymore, despite being technologically superior. People got lazy I guess you could say, and in a way, some companies overcompensated by creating visually taxing games, like Everquest 2 and Crysis.
>>12437717Yeah. Adding to this, there's only so much you can fit in a truck so if the boxes are bigger more fuel has to be used overall which eats profits even though the packages are relatively light. And they used to take a lot of storage in the warehouse..
>>12437550>Those few prospective Half-Life 2 players without recourse to any form of Internet access will apparently be up the proverbial creek. >However, they'll also be unable to hop online and complainKek
>>12437550>Meanwhile the people who just downloaded a cracked version don't have to deal with any of this crap.I never understood the thought process behind this.All it does and did is to drive more people to the easy to use pirated versions.When I wanted to play Portal 2 (not retro but *pssst* don't tell anyone it'll be our little secret...) I saw that all the disc versions required Steam. FUCK THAT. Just give me a standalone game I can install and run. SO I just got a pirated version instead. Great work, really.
Computers were a new medium and there weren't as many games coming out for it. Having the premium big boxes made them stand out and look special and better than console games. There was no need for them even in the 90s Floppies and CDs could fit in much smaller boxes, but that's marketing. When DVD became a thing people just loved having DVD sized boxes at home so consoles and PC adapted.
>>12439629They used to come with a lot of neat bonuses and documentation, then eventually they realized they'd save money if they just condense documentation into a booklet, put documentation on a PDF on the disc, or just full out replace it with in game tutorials and shit. Suddenly boxes got smaller, and eventually turned into plastic cases, where you're lucky if you get a manual. They even did away with registration because who the hell filled that shit out?
>>12437552Pretty much. Or at least, capitalism exploited. Capitalism is fine in the hands of a small band of misfits who just want to sell you what they love to see on the shelves themselves. But then the Bobby Koticks and other jewish fucks spread their tendrils around everything.
>>12439543>All it does and did is to drive more people to the easy to use pirated versions.yeah for a few years. then public opinion about steam turned around
>>12438803No ifone vuvuzela 100 gorillion dead
>>12438803Soviet Russia, East Germany and the rest of the Eastern Bloc had computer games and arcade games.Hell, Russia has a museum dedicated to old Soviet arcade games.
>>12438432You literally posted a small box. The only "big box" as late as what you posted was collectors editions by Blizzard for WoW, Diablo 3, etc.
>>12439428lmao sounds like today honestly. Everything on PC is just live service fecal matter today.
>>12438432You would think that's big
>>12440264That was kind of the name of the game in the 2000's for PC, like Hollywood when they started adapting cgi - "how pretty and future proof can we make our games?" Crysis was by far the worst offender. The mentality wasn't to create better games, it was to create pretty games. Its probably why PC struggled in some areas, though wow was also hugely dominant and killed a lot of innovation itself. When they werent making pretty games, they were all trying to recreate what wow did. PC was consumed by the MMO boom while console games took over the mass market.
>>12439945>Bobby KoticksPerfect example
>>12440186People who steal everything steal ideas too.
I remember when video games came in 8"x8" sleeves like record albums. that was nice.
>>12442015>P-peopleYou mean how capitalists steal ideas from workers? Happens all the time and they're people too.
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>>12437529A friend worked at a large chain video game store, and they were ordered to trash the packaging and keep only the the used game because they'd constantly ship the games to other stores. It would save them on logistics costs and maximize their limited space for more game sales. Also, a lot of big box retailers have so much economic pull they'd demand publishers find ways to reduce packaging material and size to save the environment. It was beneficial to the planet and improve the working conditions with less weight required for the employees to lift. So sadly as much as I favor the packaging of the games I like, they just don't belong in the modern world.
>>12437743Every single game here screams "owner is high test"
>>12437743holy based
>>12437945there would be no boxes. you are new
