Are there any "bad" games that you come back to play from time to time?This Star Wars on the NES is not a good game by any means. I've only beaten it once. But there's something specific about how momentum jumping feels in this game that I like and want to fuck around with every now and then. I usually have had enough by Mos Eisley and quit.
Scorpion Vader best Vader
>>12438692The Legend of Kage. I don't know wtf I'm doing anytime I play it, but it's kinda fun to mess around with the ultra high jumps.
>>12438730Oh fuck yeah, that game is definately one.Jumping tree to tree feels great.
the GBA version of International Karate. I developed a liking for it after getting stuck in a B&B with nothing to do and a storm outside. the rhythm of this game makes it a decent time burner and the naive graphics are kind of charming, it's like something a boomer would think is cool.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luk0CisboAM
>>12438692Probably for me it's Puss n' Boots on NES. It's pretty janky and it's rather short and easy (until the last level, which is a pretty big difficulty spike, and the last boss is pretty much just you trying to kill him before he kills you). It has a lot of variety for how short it is, though, with several weapons at your disposal, as well as a lot of vehicular levels that mostly all feel pretty unique. The graphics and music, while basic, are also pretty charming. It's just a comfy little game to run through at times for me.
>>12438692i do like this better than the super star wars series on the snes actuallyin fact i don't find it as bad as many other titles in there
>>12439249I like the Super Star Wars games, even though they are fucking insane.If you wonder why, then play the game and just stoo and stand still at a random point.
Yes, because "bad" games are a massive oversimplification of people who have been spoiled by decades of homogenization. There are plenty of legitimately "bad" games, but it gets used as a blanket for everything people refuse to give a chance or hyperbolize their annoyance with. Quest 64 is one that I like to go back to every now and then, but you can't talk about those types of games without people piling on their favorite youtuber's opinion to try to fit in.
>>12439537This thread is not about Metascore, but games that you feel are bad but you still play.
>>12439684Which is my point. People refuse to play things that they "feel are bad" at all anymore. Most of the games anyone talks about just get constantly shit on by people who don't have the patience to even engage with them. Fuck, CotM gets shitfights every time it even gets mentioned.
>>12438692I sometimes go back to Pinball Quest on NES.It's essentially a "Pinball RPG", you get stronger by killing monsters, beat bosses to advance and have to save the princess from the big bad which is a giant magnet for some reason.You can even visit shops to buy (or steal) upgrades, flippers act as weapons that increase your attack and stoppers as consumables.It's weird, ugly and short but it has a charm to it.
>>12438692>Are there any "bad" games that you come back to play from time to time?I'm assuming here by "bad" you mean something more like "severely flawed."And I'd say the original TMNT on NES.I find it pretty fun even though it's also full of BS, with janky hitboxes, questionable controls, sadistic jumps and careless enemy placement. >>12439537>but it gets used as a blanket for everything people refuse to give a chance orYeah so what?I specifically contrast TMNT to games like Castlevania 1 and Zelda 1, which are superbly designed, high-quality games in comparison, no matter what effete, bottom-feeding social media influencers and their slopguzzling fans have to say about it. Honestly even the one thing about TMNT that everyone memes about (the dam level) isn't one of the game's real flaws.
both power rangers SNES games. not the fighting one, that one sucks dick
>>12439804>Yeah so what?Makes it kinda hard to define the criteria. The term kinda lost its meaning when people started unironically applying it to anything that isn't part of the overcurated sanctioned lists people have on this fuckin board. Hence the Q64 and CotM mentions, because I think they're both great games with a lot of problems, but how do you define "bad" games when people's average sensibilities are so trash they only think there are maybe 20 games that don't fit?
>>12439823Case in point, I bet this dumbass never even got to Epyon in GW:ED, let alone got the chance to get filtered by him.
>>12439832nta but I'll tell you how I see it: if something you do in your leisure time is unsatisfying or compares unfavorably to another thing of its kind, then it's bad, even if it clearly stands on its own terms.
>>12439842See thats completely different from my definition, which would be a game that is overall enjoyable but suffers from design flaws or circumstances that hold it back while playing. Something like Boktai is cool as shit, but it could be considered a bad game due to its solar panel fucking with your ability to play it as intended, which would prevent people from being able to play it properly without compensating.
>>12439836No idea what that is.The two power rangers games are beat-em-ups, so already bad games. Plus it's a shitty franchise that nobody in their right mind likes.I replay them every once in a while mostly because I like the graphics of the city.
>>12439864Gundam Wing: Endless Duel was the game made on the engine of MMPR Fighting Edition. Both games are fucking sick and still hold up today, balance issues aside.>The two power rangers games are beat-em-ups, so already bad games.Yep, retarded.
>>12439832>Makes it kinda hard to define the criteria.For you. Because you let the lowest common denominator retard determine what words mean when you should always strive to use the best and most appropriate meaning of a word for the given context.AND that means not inviting a semantic debate when it's not necessary. There was never any need to reference what "people who have been spoiled by decades of homogenization" think about what this thread should be about.OP asked a question and people have been responding with perfectly reasonable answers. Everyone else understands the criteria just fine, because they aren't overthinking it and making themselves retarded in the process. Trolls may ignore it on purpose and cite good games on purpose in order to stir up trouble, which they haven't done yet. But that's just 4chan in 2026.
>>12439885I've given three answers myself, I'm just trying to understand the criteria because the language has been diluted that badly I'm trying to gauge whether its supposed to be able actually trash games we play as guilty pleasures, games that are commonly misunderstood, or ones that hold themselves back from being good games. They all get called "bad" now.
The SNES Tom & Jerry game for me. I could never beat it as a kid and made me rage a lot, so actually being able to beat it with relative ease nowadays is satisfying and a quick 30 minute run. I say relative because the game still has a bullshit blind jumps on the toys level. But even though the game is rough and not really above average, I also think it's not too bad for the standards of western platformers. Levels are mostly linear and have some sort of platforming coherence. Controls aren't something amazing but it does the job and it does have an interesting mechanic I haven't seen in other games, which is a 2nd high jump (you jump once, then at the moment you land, jump again to do a sort of spring jump), as a kid I never figured this, now I can reach those sneaky places and get those cheese pieces.The bosses are also somewhat creative and feature big sprites, possibly the only remarkable aspect of this game I guess.It's a short decent platformer that I probably wouldn't revisit if it wasn't for nostalgia, but still definitely a decent game especially for western platformers.
>>12439797This game is so close to being good, but the shitty ball physics detract from everything it does right.
>>12438692Alex Kidd in high tech world. Fugin american reviewers 40 years later giving it shit because its not Mario 2, the game wasn't for you. Master System owners didn't give a shit that Mario 2 was out in japan at the same time, we had our own stuff.Most 32X games I like including Knuckles ChaotixI don't see the issue with Bubsy on Jag, it has good graphics and plays like a normal gamePacman on 2600 can be fun in a way
DRAGON SPIRIT: The New Legendwhen i got my copy as a kid i thoughtvit was some bargain bin game. as an adult it is an absolute favorite.https://youtu.be/_94x_rbSAvcthe arcade and TG16 versions are much better. but i still love the NES port
For me, it's shadow the hedgehog.
>>12438692https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqO-Kk0J1oUIt's probably the music, but Spider Man Return of the Sinister Six feels cool despite being pretty lame as a game.Wolverine too to a lesser extenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38p1c8jPYY8
I love beating the first boss of this game and then forgetting about it for a few months at a time, ive never beaten the whole thing.
>>12439897Op here, hopefully I can explain.I don't mean general opinion of a game nor a "guilty pleasure". I mean a game you feel is a bad game, yet for whatever reason you play every now and then.For example I don't like any of the Smash games, but I wouldn't call them bad, I jist don't like them. Bart vs. The World is a bad game with bad controls, yet I find myself pretty good at it since I've played it alot. It did make me good at slide puzzles if nothing else.
>>12438692I revisit the Valis games sometimes, particularly the PCE versions of 1 and 3. I like the aesthetics, and enjoy those sorts of action sidescrollers enough to have fun even with comparatively weak ones.>>12438730Yeah, it can be pretty fun.>>12440330I really enjoyed that one, too. I still really like the music.
Wirehead
>>12440580Even in that description, the usage of whatever kinda threw me off, but I get it based on the example. There are a lot of game boy and game gear games that work well for that, games like Evander Holyfield's Real Deal Boxing and Out of Gas were kinda bad for their genres but they're easy to develop stockholm syndrome with when they're all you would get for long car rides.
>>12438692DK64
>>12438730There's another Famicom game with insanely high jumps I can never remember the name of (might have "Esper" in the title)
>>12440363This is one of those games I wish I could like, because I like exploring cryptic messes, but I hate how quickly the enemies respawn as it makes the exploration tedious.
>>12440303>Alex Kidd in high tech worldI play that once a decade or something too, because nostalgia really. I end up using a guide every time though because it gets annoying.
