I hate how all sportgames, especially /vr/, soccer games are pretty much the same game as the previous entry and next entry but with different characters. This one actually applies and you know it.
>>12439378>This one actually applies and you know it.play SWOS and The Ultimate 11. good shit even if you're not into football.
>>12439378Just like Call of Duty
>>12439378Do you expect them to add new rules to the sport yearly to make the games funner?
>>12439378>Caring about niggerballthird worlder thread.
>>12439587Eggball is more likely to have more black players than football though
>>12439853there are more soccer players in Africa than there are american/canadian football players in the entire world
>>12439378almost like how real sports stay pretty much the same from year to year, just with roster updates
It made sense at the time because not enough people would be able to download a whole new season's worth of updated squads and kits.Now that really should be the case but that's why I'm not EA's chief financial officer.
>>12440196it's more the sports leagues are opposed to it, because they feel it "cheapens the brand". reminder they get a cut of the sales of every game, and if the games aren't a full-priced yearly release, they get a smaller cut. the NFL threw a shitfit over 2K selling their games for $20 less than what EA charged for Madden.
>>12439378>paying $50 for an updated rosterNo thanks
>>12439378I wonder how many copies of FIFA were sold on the original Xbox. five? six?
>>12439378there's so many football\soccer games, many quite good, just try a different series if you want something different. only pes and fifa had yearly releases and of course it's not like you can code something completely different in such small time.
>>12439587That's not basketball though
>>12440185>more players from an entire continent than players from two countries whoa
>>12440275ESL-kun, I was comparing one continent to the entire world. I said 'american/canadian' in reference to the sport, not the players. as in 'American Football', to differentiate it from 'Association Football'.
We got PES6. We need nothing else
>>12439378play NBA Street and Outlaw and Amped and Aggressive Inline
>>12439378They do evolve>Character models>Graphics>Realism>Animation>Simulation>New modes>AI improvementshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MiMpUEuEEYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwsMYmillXI
>>12440281Per Capita?
>>12441595I get the distinct feeling per capita more blacks play soccer in Africa than play football
>>12439378I disagree and agree that during the late 90s (early 3D), the first cross-gen soccer games had huge differences between years. They stagnated after PES/FIFA08 or something like that. Now entering non-VR territory. That non-VR studio put together the first functional non-EA/Konami soccer game. Since soccer games are really hard to make, it's like RTS but worse (soccer games have RTS elements).
>>12442140isn't FIFA 13 or 14 usually considered the best of the series?
>>12442146I don't want my comment deleted. So I went to the board's discussion age limit. That's why I always say “non-vr” and shit. Kind of, yes, and it was the games that put FIFA ahead of PES.
>>12439378>cheap to buy because it's the most traded-in genre>nostalgic time capsules of different rosters, kits, soundtracks>gameplay differences that people who actually play games knowSports /vr/ are great.
>>12439378Kind of, except for generation leaps. I'm most familiar with the Madden series and the leap from '98 PSX to '99 PSX was big for graphics and added more modes. The leap again to the PS2 was massive in every way imaginable. Then they added great features and modes mainly up to and including Madden 05.
>>12439378Cool bit about FIFA04 was that if you had both it and EA's Total Club Manager 04 installed, you could play one combined game. It was pretty awesome.That being said when PES6 came out a few years later it absolutely obliterated all football games and it remains the gameplay peak of the entire genre to this day.
>>12442228they kept going with 06 and 07 on the PS2, with stuff like Superstar mode and the vision cone. the latter was a misstep but they were at least trying.
>>12444096Fuck the haters, Vision Cone was amazing and actually was the most realistic thing Madden has had gameplay wise. People hated it because it made a difference between QBs, especially the shitty scrambling ones and pocket passers. Everyone would simply start the fastest QB and take off with him, which was retarded easy in every PS2/Xbox Madden game.
>>12444104it was a neat idea but it wasn't implemented well. you could mitigate it completely just by learning to flick the vision cone to the guy you wanted to actually pass to at the last second. if anything, doing this made the game even easier because the Defence would focus on wherever your cone was aimed, so you could juke them every play by flicking it around and consistently get them to leave a receiver open.
>>12444107If they had kept it long term and removed that one oversight, it would be the best feature ever, gameplay or otherwise. They removed it simply because the competitive crowd refused to use it. Online play is actually the worst thing ever done to sports games. If you put a tweaked Vision Cone in the next Madden game and made it mandatory online, I can guarantee their online player count would at least be cut in half.
>>12444114or you could do the Backbreaker system where you have to manually aim to the guy you want to pass to, and throw by flicking the stick. similar to how shooting in the NBA 2K games work.
>>12444119Don't they already have something like that, which they stole from the NFL Fever games? Maybe I'm wrong. Madden still has a shittier tackling engine compared to NFL 2K5. How the fuck is that even possible to be worse than a 22-year-old game?
>>12444134no idea, I've not played anything newer than NCAA 07. it's because Madden is animation-based rather than physics-based. and especially since the games became so focused on online competitive play, compshitters screeched and howled about linemen not operating consistently when running the same play so now it works more like an if/else statement where each play plays out exactly the same when it's ran against the same Defensive play.
>>12444134the real crime is 2K never made a college ball game based on the 2K5 engine. NCAA 2K2 and 2K3 were built on the older Dreamcast-era engine which wasn't nearly as good and they also don't have a dynasty mode from what I remember.
>>12444138NCAA 14 was good, which I mainly played so I can run the Flexbone. Sadly the game was easy as shit if you ran the option in any form.>>12444141Sadly they probably won't make another football game again. I would hope they make a college basketball game, but I never liked the 2K basketball games. Although the last one I tried was on the PS3 and the entire thing was just animations snapping together. It just didn't feel fluid or good.
>>12444150I have 14 in the back catalogue, mostly for the actual player-locked career (07's lets you make a character but you don't really control him individually in gameplay). I've only played 2K11, which is supposed to be the best one. it's okay but I actually prefer NBA Live on the PS2 (or more specifically, the March Madness version of that engine). in-period they were dunked on for not being as realistic as 2K, but the Live/MM games aged better because their simpler arcadey physics actually play to the PS2's strengths whereas the 2K games from that era simply feel like clunkier and less-refined versions of the later 2K games like 2K11.
>>12444156I forgot to add, the only reason I would ever even look twice at a new 2K college basketball game is if they have women's basketball dynasty mode, like how the newest NBA titles have the WNBA. that way, I can groom a superteam of college bball aidoru, lel
>>12439378>soccer games are pretty much the same game as the previous entry and next entry but with different characters.so are pokemon games but apparently you're hitler if you point this out anywhere
>>12444206Some are, but there are sports games that are literally just a roster update and nothing else. At least with Pokemon games they added more places, gyms, moves, items, etc. Do all Pokemon games feel the same? Well yeah, but that goes for most games in any series. You don't fix what isn't broken.
Literally games for brown hands with smooth brains. Can't fault companies for taking advantage of them when they just keep falling for it.
>>12440273and NFL
Meanwhile, back during a non soulless era...
>>12444786Did they really remove all that from the US version or what the fuck happened?
>>12444786absolute state of korea
>>12444797It's the sequel of World Cup that remained Japan only until the recent Kunio Double Dragon collection.
>>12444107You mean if you got good at reading the defense, anticipating the receiver and reacting quick the passing game got easy? You don’t say.>>12444104Best part about a vision for me was progressing shit qbs in franchise mode. You start a rookie with a dunce cap for a cone and by year 4 he had a half circle
I tried to get into handegg games, but I couldn't "get it". I liked hockey games though, shit's intense.
>>12444962>Best part about a vision for me was progressing shit qbs in franchise modeThat's a good point. You actually know that your draft pick QB is getting better instead of just seeing numbers. Also makes preseason worth playing to see which QB you can do well with based on how big their cone was. Just seems like they killed their best feature over online players because it was they all want arcade gameplay.
>>12444970American football is the sport that requires the most intelligence, it makes sense that a brainlet like you couldn't get into it.
>>12444962no, you could sidestep the defence entirely by exploiting their AI.
>>12439378Sports games peaked in the 6th gen because you didn't have to deal with DLC and microtransactions
besides the Mia Hamm game on N64, do any old soccer games have female players? I know Fifa 16+ does but that's not /vr/. preferably something anime-esque in art design
>>12445839I think retro-wise, you are SOL. Then there's the Inazuma Eleven games.
>>12445898I heard about them too, they're not really soccer games but rather RPGs that use soccer as a backdrop. you don't actually play the matches for the most part.
>>12444715>that are literally just a roster update and nothing elselike Pokemon grass, fire and water starter in all of them> At least with Pokemon games they added more places, gyms, moves, items, etc.so updates to stuff in previous games got it>You don't fix what isn't broken.So why complain about sports games being the same?
I know americans dont care because they were fucking taught to always consider sports games are hot garbage since the late 80's, the kind of game you bought just to play when your friends came around and after a year throw it into the bin, but theres a reason why everyones loves the pro evolution soccer series, and why the fuck no one who knows even the basics about sports games even considers FIFA as a rival.The thing about PES is the insane amount of content and customization. You can literally edit everything: Teams, players, stadiums, tactics, strategies. You can change stadium models, player models, the football kits, the balls. You can created your own players. You can play leagues, tournaments. You can even play as a single player joining a club and having your own career. And the most important part is that gameplay really was a perfect balance between arcade feeling and and actual football simulator.
>>12446309That's why it's downfall post WE10 and eventual death and rebirth is sad, because FIFA isn't good enough even to this day.
>>12440281You were comparing one continent to two countries whose countrymen live internationally. Rephrase your statement to exclude "american/canadian" if you wanted an all encompassing international comparison
>>12446567American Football isn't only played by Americans/Canadians
>>12445736Cope faggot
>>12439378If you don't care about the sport then you'll think it's the same title, but that's on you, not the video game.Pro Evolution Soccer felt like a PS1 title with better graphics.Pro Evolution Soccer 2 felt like an early PS2 title, but proper PS2 now.Pro Evolution Soccer 3 is a whole different beast and aimed for more realism.Pro Evolution Soccer 4 was more polished and went for more arcade.Pro Evolution Soccer 5 again went for more simulatio, and was more polished.Pro Evolution Soccer 6 went for a mixture of arcade and simulation, the most polished.If you liked the sport, each update was something you got excited about, how different it'll feel and all... and this is talking about a PS2 era IP that was more or less "done" in its formula, if we go back to PS1 or SNES/Mega Drive the variety of franchises, and even titles within the same franchise, sometimes with yearly releases just like now, was much bigger.
