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There was a GDC talk about retro re-releases that had an interesting tidbit. Heroes of Might and Magic III is the top-selling retro game on GOG, almost half of buyers are under the age of 25.

GOG thinks that zoomers don't care as much about graphics that old gamers do and that is fuelling this boom of younger players buying old games
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>>12442550
Everyone I know is burnt out by modern shit so this makes sense
t. zoomer
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>GoG does not collect that type of info
>Some how these random people have this info about age of buyers of specific games
lmfao
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>>12442567
>he thinks they don't collect as much information as possible about you to sell it down the river for a quick buck
lmao, this shit is why i pirate
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Show me 20 zoomers playing Heroes 3 or it's fake
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My younger (zoomer) brother loves Minecraft, Roblox, and also likes indie games such as Terraria, Stardew Valley, and Vampire Survivors which are 2D pixel art games.
My anecdotal impression is that high budget movie games (like most of Sony's output for example) does NOT appeal to zoomers. It is firmly a millennial thing.
>>12442571
My brother doesn't like strategy games, so I doubt he'd play it because of the gameplay itself. He'd probably have no problem with the graphics or the isometric perspective.
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gameplay always been more important than graphics.
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>top seller at GOG

What they're not telling you is that a top seller at GOG is still a low seller.
It's like those studies that say "80% of the people we asked had this opinion!" but they only asked 5 people.
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>>12442550
>GOG thinks that zoomers don't care as much about graphics that old gamers do
this is true
>that is fuelling this boom of younger players buying old games
this is false

zoomsters dont care about graphical fidelity they care about "aesthetic" but they still will not play old games because old games do not respect your hecking time and are suuuuuuuuper clunky and have no quality of life features.
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It's not that zoomers don't care about graphics, it's that modern games are so devoid of any enjoyment that they have to play 30 year old games to have any fun.
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>>12442989
Mein neger, games have had "QoL features" since they added tooltips to the right mouse button click action (circa 1992, IIRC).
To a zoomie, games from 2005 are "old" games. And they don't really differ in terms of "QoL features", compared to current ones.
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>>12442550
>zoomers don't care as much about graphics that old gamers do and that is fuelling this boom of younger players buying old games

zoomers ruin games, but in this case i highly doubt the miners and adobefiles of roblox are the ones buying HOMM3.
totally different genre and zoomzoom gamers don't play a variety of genres like me and LGR-guy did. also GOG is most polandball and slavic buyers, and HOMM3 is very very well known and shill in the slavic world AFAIK.
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>>12442567
>>12442568
the Galaxy client functions like the Steam client. and some game can't work without Galaxy.
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>>12443013
>some GAMES can't work without Galaxy.
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>>12443013
Watch heroes 3 be one of those games that need it and they came to this conclusion simply by more people playing it than cyberjunk.
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>>12442550
Is that buyers of Heroes 3 or all buyers on GOG in general? And is that demographic data recent, whereas Heroes 3 has been the best-selling game on GOG for a long time (like 15+ years I think). This seems like one of those cases where they already have the narrative they want to push and went looking for data that you can make seem like it supports you. There's definitely been this weird push recently to say "erm ackshully zoomers LOVE retro games" when it's blatant that 90% of them just play COD and FIFA.
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>>12442550
>Heroes of Might and Magic III is the top-selling retro game on GOG
I'm going to bet this case it's all eastern europeans and this is more of a case of HOMM3 being a local tradition that transcends time

I believe zoomers/alphoomers going back to older games is a real thing fuelled by newer games being garbage, but you have to keep in mind that for them the PS3 is super old retro shit. They aren't playing the same stuff as /vr/ uncs necessarily
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>>12443554
Sales of HOMM3 on GOG is probably a constant trickle
Buyers of HOMM3 are exclusively people who haven't already bought HOMM3, which will trend young because everyone has HOMM3. I have it and don't even remember buying it. I think it's just an inevitability of using a GOG account.
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>>12442550
Because all the oldniggers already bought/played the old games in some form. No shit its mostly young people buying them at this point.
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>>12443013
>some game can't work without Galaxy
Like what?
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>>12442571
You could probably find them everywhere in slavlands, where millennials can't ever shut the fuck up about Heroes III being DA BEST GAME EVARRRRR, so zoomers will check it out just from sheer curiosity.
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>>12442567
Retard.
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>>12442550
I've seen modern games fail because they look low budget. I've seen games instantly dismissed because they don't look modern enough. It's not that they don't care about the graphics period. It's that they don't care as much about the graphics if the game is either old or free/cheap, or if it has a big enough brand. But try selling a game at full price with ps2 graphics and watch as everyone makes fun of it no matter how good the gameplay is.
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>>12442550
>doesn't know most lie in those polls to hide their real age or pedos trying to pass as younger.
Most people know that under 35 years are graphic bitches and push for graphics more then anything (just check how they complain of 2d sprites saying "all look the same") even if is a kusoge if it has good graphics they don't care.
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>>12443808
If they are young they will download it from random site or from archive or abandonware sites but seeing the whole "sold" is probably some bullshit pedo grooming shit more then anything at that point since old pedos are almost dying and can't play better games.
There are tons of strategy games that are better like disgaea, zettai hero project, fire emblem, and so on but not even my nephew plays those games, doesn't even play heroes of might and magic at all despite having all the games and other people under 25 is kinda similar, they tend to reset game and start everything again instead of losing one life or a pokebattle despite being part of mechanics (imagine playing 3 hours pokemon fire red without saving only to reset the moment they are about to lose a battle, or passing several stages on super mario world only to reset because they lost a life and losing progress).
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>>12444076
>slavland
They aren't buying from GOG that's for sure
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>>12443823
the wiccaner card game. and some RPGs and shooters with online modes.
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>>12443796
>I have it and don't even remember buying it.
i have the "complete" version on CD but i no longer have have a working CD/DVD drive.
so the only way for me to play it now is with the old ISO file i made ages ago.
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>>12444306
>, they tend to reset game and start everything again instead of losing one life or a pokebattle
sounds like you only met autists.
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>>12442550
That's just because it used to go on sale for $2.50 and zoomers don't have money. I wonder how many have actually played through it.
>>12444306
Zoomers seem to be less likely to pirate. They're afraid of it or something.
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>>12442550
>>12442578
>zoomers like 2D games
>millennials like 2D games
okay so... everyone likes 2D games?
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zoomers dont get real computers they get shitty thinkpads so they are kind of stuck on old games. Some 13 year old niglet joined my DnD game, played a cleric, and stuck around for 6 years before I had to ban him for blackness. Dude never stopped playing crusader kings 2
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>>12444306
take your meds
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Posers just buy it so they have it in "their library" when it's on sale is my guess
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>zoomers are gameplayCHADS
>all the storyfaggotry that has taken over video games in the last 15 years was all millennials fault for having shit taste
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>>12442578
>My anecdotal impression is that high budget movie games (like most of Sony's output for example) does NOT appeal to zoomers. It is firmly a millennial thing
Just go to youtube. The guys gushing over modern Sony games are 30-year-old console warriors. Zoomers are making videos about.
>I BOUGHT A PSP INSTEAD OF A SWITCH 2 IN 2026
>HOW RETRO GAMING SAVED MY LIFE
>CRT BUYER'S GUIDE
>PLAYSTATION 1 JUNGLE DNB PLAYLIST
>WHY DID THE PS1 LOOK SO COOL
>THE SEGA SATURN RETROSPECTIVE
>THE ONLY ESPORT PLAYED ON THE GBA
>AYN THOR REVIEW
That's the shit zoomers watch and make videos about. Older games had a cooler aesthetic instead of minimalist designs of UI for modern games and the amount of bloat they have.
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>>12444590
Yes, gameplayGODS are the majority but the guys that the industry listens to are the ones who think TLOU2 is the gold standard of video games.
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>>12442550
This is good because it means zoomers and millenials still have hope... it's bad because it means the bubble will never pop, so just emulate.
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even zoomers know that retro games were the peak of digital entertainment
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>>12446172
>Just go to youtube
Nah, kill yourself.
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>>12446172
Do they actually like the games or is it another case of zoomers wanting to be millenials?
There was that whole thing where zoomers were scouring thrift stores for millenial clothing. The 30+ console warrior makes sense because they already went through those old games, they don't need to theme their content around something they already experienced where zoomers do and it comes off as performative.
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>>12448181
It's both. Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green recently came out for the Switch and a bunch of Gen Alpha kids realized that the uncs were right when we said the older games were better.
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>>12442560
I legit think it's a financial thing. We're speedrunning into economic Armageddon and inexpensive "backlog" style gaming is going to become the norm. Think Brazil and how they were all playing Master System for eternity.
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>>12442550
>graphics do not matter
Uh, HoMM3 is a good-looking game, chud
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>>12444076
This. Heroes 3 is a big PC game for a lot of people. It doesn't get talked about much these days though online, but in the casual normie space I bet it still gets mentioned a lot
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>>12442550
>marketing/corpo people co tinge to be retarded

There was never really any call for anything better than ps3 graphics. Art direction is much more important.



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