Is the Persona series officially part of the MT series, and thus officially a spin-off from the novel series? If they are official, then the book's author gets payment for every game in the series. If not, then it might mean that Persona was Atlus trying to continue the series without having to pay the original author for the rights for "Megami Tensei".
>>12442619They only used the Megaten branding for Persona in the west and even then that was only from 2007-2012
>>12442619>then the book's author gets payment for every game in the seriesI'm not sure this is actually true
>>12442619Are you legitimately retarded or only merely pretending to be?The author hasn’t received any royalties from Atlus and their established series since the first game.Seriously, Altus games aren’t even that popular yet the Western fanbase are so obnoxious and like to create dramas and gossips about the creators.
>>12442681>Altus games aren’t even that popularPersona is mainstream and some Fatlus game won RPG GOTY award last year
>>12442705>>12442707Okay, so why are you retards making such a big deal about the author not getting paid?It seems like he cares little about it and appreciate more about the novelty of the series.
>>12442619>Is the Persona series officially part of the MT series, and thus officially a spin-off from the novel series?No. Is a spin-off, retard.>If they are official, then the book's author gets payment for every game in the series. If not, then it might mean that Persona was Atlus trying to continue the series without having to pay the original author for the rights for "Megami Tensei".Aya Nishitani sold the Megami Tensei rights to Atlus.Digshit thread.
>>12442747Spin-offs can be part of the branding. It sounds like the author signed a dreadful financial deal back in the day, most likely thinking that the game series wouldn't be a big deal. From his tweet he gets residuals from all the MT and SMT games, just not anywhere near as much as the books. Which is ridiculous since games produce more revenue, which points to him writing a shitty deal for residuals, rather than wholly selling off the rights to the books. Persona is the last step where they cut him off entirely from getting ANY residuals.
>>12442747SMT and Last Bible are spin-offs of MT but they all keep the branding. Persona is when they decided to drop the license entirely, and keep their original designs and characters, with a new story about Jungian "Personas" instead. Square tried something similar with 3rd Birthday where they tried to drop the original book elements from the series, but it wasn't successful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Megami_Tensei_video_games#
>>12443806>It sounds like the author signed a dreadful financial deal back in the day, most likely thinking that the game series wouldn't be a big deal.I don't think he could have possibly predicted that a Japanese-only Famicom tie-in game made by a company that had only made one game prior would end up creating a series lasts nearly 40 years.
>>12443867That part is correct. I believe the Witcher guy also signed a shitty deal where he didn't get that much money from the games.
>>12443806>>12443867You're assuming that Altlus paid for a life time licensing deal. Usually these things are done on a game per game basis.Also, unlike for his own books, the author doesn't have to put any work for the game and still gets something out of it. Free money and advertising doesn't sound like a bad deal to me.
>>12442619They are different, persona is from megami ibunroku saga while the other is from tensei saga.Sadly not many realize it in localization with devil survivor being part of the persona saga because is megami ibunroku, tensei has so many games that you won't end if you wanted to play it.
>>12442672>I'm not sure this is actually true
>>12443831Jung originally wrote about Odin, but the concept was censored and he had to talk about the shadow instead.
>>12443949That is true, and it all depends on the kind of deal he signed. It's entirely possible he signed a deal where Atlus (now Sega) have to give him x amount of residuals per game. But that's negotiated based on the 80s mindset for a freaking Famicom game, not a mega-series that's spawned dozens of games. So most likely just him and his publisher not thinking ahead and not seeing the potential in video games.
>>12444642The same thing happened with Andrzej Sapkowski and the Witcher license. He sold the rights for $10k in the early 2000s and refused a royalty-based deal as he didn't know anything about video games and expected it wouldn't make any money. He ended up suing CD Projekt about 10 years ago, which was settled out of court and now everybody's all smiles about it.
>>12444742His deal seems even worse, at least Nishitani-san mentions residuals, however slight. I do wonder if he can sue as well? Many of the spin-offs were initially marketed as "Megami Tensei" brand before dropping it, as well as Persona in the west. Could he argue that he's owed residuals from the Persona games because it's a continuation of SMT?
>>12445567He likely could have got some sort of better deal from Atlus at some point over the past 40 years (maybe even to get hired as writer for the series or something), but it'd probably bring great dishonor and shame to his family or some other autistic Japanese shit if he didn't abide by the original contract.
>>12445727A legal case is lengthy, long, and depends on having good lawyers. It's questionable whether he has a case at all. my theory is just using how much they used "Shim Megami Tensei" in the American work, and in the other spin-offs where they later dropped the word. That would show continuity with the past series. The lawyers could argue that what Americans do is of no business to the Japanese side. It would all devolve to specifics of the law.
