>what if we made a Mega Man game where we didn't replenish your lives upon game over?>what if we made a MM game where you can give up on levels and make them permanently inaccesible?>what if we made a MM game where we didn't give you any indication on the theme and boss's weakness in the level select screen?>what if we made a MM game where you had to grind your weapons even just to exploit weaknesses?>what if we made a MM game where health upgrades and subtanks were locked behind obnoxious grinding?Trying to fix what wasn't broken: the game.
>make the first actually challenging Mega Man game (MM2 is the easiest game in the entire NES library)>MM2 and X1 fags cry and shit themselves
>>12456048Honestly those are the only bad parts of the game, the level design, bossfights, and gamefeel/weapons are all absolutely top notch, best in all of Mega Man. It's a shame they tacked on so much superfluous bullshit that just weighs down the really good core experience
>>12456048Crazy that this series survived its first game.
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I started playing this today and I do think it's super fun. I really do. I appreciate games that demand mastery from the player and learning bosses is satisfying to me. I also love how Zero controls, it's so snappy and smooth.What kills this game is the unskippable cutscenes. It really ruins my drive to replay and improve when I have to mash A for two minutes between every attempt at a stage. Who the fuck left this oversight in the game?
>>12456048>>12456358play the romhack or use some cheat codes to re balance the game.
>>12456364is there a romhack that only adds cutscene skipping? im fine with the balance, having to rematch cutscenes is my literal only problem.
>>12456048>What if we made a MM game where you play as Zero wearing a diaperSeriously, why was he wearing a diaper? Don't tell me Roll wears one too?
>>12456048Anon, there are like million different Megaman games, they had to make this one stand out somehow.
>>12456048It's an awesome game held back by baffling design decisions, yeah. The sequels are a lot better. I love Zero 2 and the only flaw with it is the weird need to grind weapons somehow being kept from the first game.
>>12456051>challengingWe're talking about the Zero series, not X6.
>>12456051>the first actually challenging megaman game
>>12456059>level designThe factory sucks balls, but the rest of the game is good.Grinding for the subtanks is unnecessary, you really don't need them, so I don't know why people complain. Choose between health upgrades or subtanks, one or the other, you don't need both.
MMZ apologists are a special breed of retarded.
It took me a while to realize that this Zero isnt the same Zero from Megaman X when i was a kid i thought they were the same person
>>12456048I savescummed the shit out of this game so I wouldn't know.
>>12457017It's technically the same Zero just a different artstyle despite this Zero being a copy, it's implied the same consciousness/soul of the old Zero despite losing its memories
>>12457035No is not the same its like X with the original Megaman
>>12457040It's really not, the OG zero is supposed to be Omega, the artstyle is different but it's the same reploid. The Zero we play as is a copy body, yes, but it's also still the old Zero in "heart" or soul.
>>12456048filtered I like this game a lot. It has a disquieting atmosphere and a rousing story.
>>12456048This is one game you can't reccomend to people without a dozen of disclaimers.
>>12457578I'm over reccomending media to people. It's always "Sure I'll check it out later" and they never do...
>>12456768Based.
>>12456048Skill issue, I played the game on cartridge, no save states or cheats, didn't grind and just got good.You don't need to collect or grind or use weaknesses.All you need is to play better, which obviously you had issue with.
>>12456051>Make my default cheeky contrarian apologetic argumentYou will never be the opposite gender to man.
>>12457578I would never recommend MMZ to anybody unless you're just a diehard Megaman fan and you're curious. It's like recommending X5 and X7.
>>12460620I could never really get into Megaman beforehand. Tried playing Classic 1/2, X1/2 and it never clicked with me. I randomly tried Zero on a whim and, after looking up some of the more obscure mechanics like the retry system and how weapon leveling works, it's the most fun i've had with any of the games. I think melee combat being a focus makes a difference for me. Makes it feel more like the Iga Castlevanias or something.
>>12456048The biggest issue I have is they redesigned him.
>>12456048Diaper lol
>What if we made a Mega Man game where new techniques were hidden behind a letter ranking that's cumulative over the entire game and no, you can't go back and redo levels if you didn't get a perfect rank without savescumming and also you have to completely ignore an entire mechanic of the game or else your rank will drop
>>12456048>what if we made a Mega Man game with the most stupid illogical plot with straight-up fantasy bs?
>>12456051Why couldn't they do that without introducing the dumb shit in op's post?
>>12457040It's a different body but same program/AI/"data soul" as original Zero.
>>12456450every robot wears one lol and in zx is part of the "super armor" os hilarious
>>12457017It's the same Zero from MMX, but his "essence", "soul" or "data" is inside a different body. The reason he looks different isn't because it's a different body, it's purely because of the new artstyle.We see what happened to Zero's original body and its "true form" doesn't look like MMX Zero, but like MMZ Zero too.
>>12456051Zero is honestly easier than classic, you're literally a glass cannon and the platforming is easy besides the factory which is annoying af to do blind due to the screen size
>>12456450>>12462525>>12463423Nyoooooooooo you can't say that !!!It's just future pants D:
>>12462525edgy diaper lol
>>12463435>The reason he looks different isn't because it's a different body, it's purely because of the new artstyle.That's just fan headcanon.
>>12460718This is the kind of person that would recommend these games, Igavaniafags so take that into account whenever someone recommends MMZ. You're not getting a Megamanfag recommendation.
>>12464781UhhNTAThat's explicitly what's in the games though.
>>12464783>megaman spinoff is another genreCrazy, I don't think that has ever happened before
>>12464923>another genreIt's just worse X. If your idea of another genre is being good series but worse then I guess?
>>12464832>That's explicitly what's in the games though.When do they say that?
>hard gameyou don't use elves?
>>12465249This and Omega's sprite is just a pallet swap of MMZ Zero...
>>12456048Just like every other Megaman game, it's all about memorization, not skill. I never got what all the fuss was about.
>>12465335Eh...Both memorization and honing one's reflexes are a skill. People can forget this when they've been playing games for ages.
>>12465293That's headcanon.>Sean: Repliroids in Rockman Zero look quite different from the Repliroids that are in Rockman X. Is there any specific basis for this change, such as new technology, or is this merely a change of art style?>Keiji: Of course, yes, Mega Man Zero takes place 100 years after the X series, so of course the technology has advanced quite a bit, and we had to redeisgn all the robots to reflect that.https://web.archive.org/web/20040415030025/http://www.planet-megaman.com/visualmedia/interview/interview.txt
>>12466040It doesn't matter what people say about their work if their work directly contradicts them, now does it.
>>12463386Why couldn't you do it without crying like a little zoomer bitch?Seriously, how much of a faggot are you that you can't even "have fun" with the "hobby" you picked? What a loser. What an absolute worthless turd from a dead generation.
>>12466064I mean yeah it kinda does since it's their work and not yours.
>>12466130Mega Man X had an art style. That art style was changed for MMZ. The devs made up fictional justifications for this change, and it might have been intended that those would have been consistent throughout the series, but then they either made an error or changed their tune when they made Omega "Zero's original body".You can say "That's just fan headcanon" all you want, but the only reason Omega looks the way he does is because they changed the art style from MMX to MMZ and were too lazy to re-create the sprites in the game. Stick that in your headcanon.
>>12466190>Nah nah I'm going to keep pushing my headcanon as canon and you can't stop meOkay but that's never going to make it canon. Not even acknowledging the evidence for your headcanon being completely taken in the entirely wrong context.
>>12466196What you're saying would hold any weight if it weren't for the blatant contradiction created by the devs. Chalk it up to error or laziness, they call Omega "Zero's original body" but the sprite is in the new art style.You're talking about imaginary bullshit and I'm talking about the facts.
>>12466542>You're talking about imaginary bullshit and I'm talking about the facts.Nah you're not but you're so deep in your own kool-aid that you're not worth engaging.
>>12466546Bro, you're so obsessed with "canon" you're unable to achieve any sort of objectivity on this. If there is a fiction explanation for why "Zero's original body" is just a palette swap of the new art style, it's not in the games or any interviews. Omega only looks the way he does because they were too lazy to do more than a palette swap. If you want to argue that "Oh no it actually is Zero's original body just rebuilt totally to look exactly like the new art style", that's some "Ship of Theseus" shit that, first of all isn't substantiated anywhere, and second of all is more of a mental gymnastics headcanon than just accepting the Omega only looks the way he does because of the art style change.
>>12456048>what if we made Zero look like a complete faggot
Interesting thread. Lotta faggots on this board as usual. MMZ series is good. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>12466589It's totally reasonable to say they upgraded their bodies over time. They even start to get slimmer in X8.
>>12468409while that makes sense, its just an artstyle change
>>12463816This seems like it would need double sided tape
>>12462525>>12463816Military diaper is a thing.
>>12468409Now let see Omega judgment form or ZX model
>>12470848Look, clearly it's just a quirky art style thing and obviously not supposed to be a diaper, but why would a robot need to wear a diaper??
>>12471258artist barely disguised fetish? nakayama has a lot of H doujins with minors (Japan moment)
>>12471619>minorsToT
>>12471619There isn't a single japanese character designer worth his salt that hasn't drawn porn at some point
>>12471936good point , had forgotten the porn is the portfolio of the jap artist
>>12456051People that genuinely think Mega Man 1-6 are challenging games are hilarious to me.Like have you played any other NES game my dude? Battletoads clears every Mega Man game.
>>12472867NTA, and this is kind of a whole other discussion, but there is so much western art, really the almost the entirety of the foundational development of classical technique in the west was devoted to depicting the human form. And while I don't think they were making porn as we consider it today, I can't imagine they did this without a sense of lewdness. It must have been a totally different mindset than what we're capable of today. If half the western canon were made today you'd have a zillion harpies screeching about how it's porn.
>>12456051why would MM2fags care, they'd encourage it if anything
