DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12443529Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source PortsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like gentlemen ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0 == GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUPortaDOOM:https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releasesHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:https://mega.nz/folder/etMkxKwK#947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAMIDI COLLECTIONShttps://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.ziphttps://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom+thread"/type/op/OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSUS West: https://clovr.xyz/CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===Doom Eternity Project (currently unnamed)Game : Doom 2 | Format : EternityResource wad: https://files.catbox.moe/yxhlgx.zip=== CURRENT RELEASES ===SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween ProjectGame : Doom 2 | MBF21RC2: https://files.catbox.moe/bdpde1.zipDeep /vr/ied PotatoGame : Doom 2 | MBF21RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/3fml1f.zipNow on iDGames!https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=21835=== NEWS ===[03-19] Blood Death Wish 2.0 update is outhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood[03-17] TNT: Exolution (formerly Convilution, Forever) 11-map beta releasehttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/3012578[03-11] Death Wish coming to Blood Refreshed Supplyhttps://x.com/NightdiveStudio/status/2031090258729677250[03-10] Nightdive announces SiN Reloadedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw5DMMTfk5o[03-08] Crematomania, a megawad releasedhttps://timeofdoom.proboards.com/thread/133/crematomania-fortune-fiends-space-odyssey[03-04] The Waiting Room is up on Itchhttps://r3voke.itch.io/the-waiting-room[03-02] Duke It Out in /vr/ releasedhttps://forums.duke4.net/topic/12959-release-e-i-e-i-doh/[03-02] Duke Nukem Zero Hour Recompiled gets initial first person mod supporthttps://dnzh-fps.netlify.app/[02-27] Inquisitor IV releasedhttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=81303[02-27] Atomic: Episode 2 releasedhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/122738-atomic-boom-compatible-episode-2-ready-for-testing-development-thread/[02-27] Abysm X releasedhttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=81298[02-12] Duke visits the Dover Cliffshttps://forums.duke4.net/topic/12953-release-cliffs-of-dover/=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST
wad was only downloaded 700 times in 2 months
QUAKE NUKEM
>>12457823Quack Quackem
>>12457732>Sorry I would do it but I made a dog's dinner of the newspost last time>Also no picIt really doesn't matter.
>first time playing death wish kino reminds me that i'm still yet to finish bonus content in amcsquad's e5>there's still no walkthrough of this godforsaken mapthe weasel nukem levels were less pain in the ass to navigate
>>12457823Duke Nuke Them
>>12457862
>>12457816>he picked up the key?>fill the room with explosives and make weird shit happen>bye bye now
>>12457848the keys in this map, or rather the plugs as they are called, can be removed and used in other paths. The map is too gimmicky but I managed to finish it
>>12457848>>12457878I thought it was pretty simple, even found all the secrets. I found the atlantis maps to be ass.
>>12457883yeah Atlantis sucked, no surprise since it was a map by some new nobody. Probably his first serious map too
Anons, I started assembling the decorate version of Operation Deadbolt. Is there anything else to add beyond a quick melee attack and grenades?I thought about having altfires, but coming up with altfires for their sake is bad design desu. I think it's best to give all guns the same altfire (grenades).As for extra weapons, I think maybe a smaller, weaker pistol might work well with the bigger handcannon you start with. Something small and inconsequential that has a low chance of replacing clips.
>>12457870>he picked uo the key?>lower all the walls to expose dozens of revenants
>>12457816>My stupid fucking 15 minute edit on Pixlr has now become the thread OP.Thanks, m8
>>12457939I didn't need your help you know
>>12457936I love thisKey pedestals should have "schmuck bait" written on them.
>>12457959>Ze took ze key, next to ze obvious monster clozet?>Open eet.
>>12457823Dude Nukie
Revenant scream make me shit in my pants.
>>12457912 >weaker pistol might work well with the bigger handcannon you start with. Something small and inconsequential that has a low chance of replacing clips.If you don't even start with it and it's so small and inconsequential, is there any reason to use it at all over the revolver or machine gun? Like it being an emergency infinite ammo pea-shooter, a lack of cooldown after longer bursts (if you intend on not adding a manual reload), splitting it off into a different ammo type (lmao) or a silencer (LMAO)? Maybe having to press 2 twice to pull out the revolver is supposed to add to the challenge?This just sounds like the Ashes glock all over again, or you approaching the Mace territory with his obligatory minimum of 4 automatic hitscan weapons per mod that all do exactly the same thing with slightly different numbers attached.Practically, I only see the different weapon sub-sub-categories actually gaining use on a more vulnerable player character, because you can no longer dance around a given encounter with a single gun nearly as easily. Then is you really squint, you could see a dedicated long distance weapon playing a role, but the revolver covers that field quite well. Plus you just finished that Deimos fork, so I assume this direction is out of your system for now.Other than that, I suppose it works aesthetically, if that's what you're going for first and foremost. Or if it is your way of having the experience of adding more just for the sake of it without having to dedicate to making altfires for all guns. Then, go for it.
>>12457862>>12457865Just like heeroshima
I slept in the bed. Now what?
Poop Sploosh'em
>>12457912just change the weapon sprites do not change gameplay thx
>Download Death Wish 2.0 and check out the levels>Non-intuitive means to progress (have to press use on random stuff)>More traps than before, either in narrow areas or require previous knowledge to dodge>Newly-added tripwires still detonate even if you crouch under them>Caused NotBlood to hang twiceWow, nice update. Really glad we waited five years for this.
>>12458097>quake mods feel different
I don't have Refreshed Supply (lmao) but apparently it got some new vault stuff added today alongside with the Death Wish.
>>12458014>Mace territoryNo, kek. I don't like more than two weapons per slot.As for what I'd do, I'm thinking of them as being shitty disposable pistols printed in bulk by the UAC so you just toss them when they're empty. It's just a gimmicky way of reusing cut stuff that never got to the beta, since originally you'd start with a weak but snappy pistol.>>12458080If I change something, it's because I'm not stuck with shitass Decohack anymore.
>>12457823Nude Dukem
>>12458140Duke Cuck'em
>>12458081>>Caused NotBlood to hang twiceAw fuck, even with the newest build from five days ago? That's a bummer.
>>12457870>he picked up the 1% health pickup?>send our entire army
>>12458109Someone spill it here.
>>12457235Newfagthere's more limit removing & boom maps than gzdoom only ones
Jack Whackem
>>12458205And yet your shitty compilation of those maps requires ZDoom! Do you get it yet, retard?
>Only got one map out of Duke projectSad but I can't complain since I gave up on my own map after a month or two (I made very little progress as I was only learning the tool and I've already forgotten most of the basics to my shame).Good job on the Sneed map, it was very laggy for me at times but I managed to finish it with some save scumming. The toxic water dump in the night time segment leads back to the day time area but this may be intended for retrieving items or missed secrets. Enemies also love to get stuck inside the basement's stairs.>>12458049I'm sure it was eerily beautiful outside.
>>12457823Awe Tiz'em
Guys I have a problem! I installed Armbian on a Pinebook Pro and it plays Doom mods pretty well. The problem is it only came stock with a 64GB eMMC but I keep putting more mods on. I've got Ashes 2063/Afterglow, Diamond Dragon, Siren, Diablo 3D, Inquisitor 3, Trenchfoot, Castlevania, Metroid, Terminator in EDAY, Warhammer 40K in Attack on Io and Godless Night, a fucking Metal Slug mod in the Moonlit District!!! Anyhoo can any of you provide me with a shortlist of any others I should also add while I still have the space to spare?
>>12458261That sounds like a problem I would like to have.
>>12458250And?some (or lots) maps are not compatible with older/newest versions of Gzdoom because scrpting/Zscript issues, your point newfag?
>>12458313You took a bunch of classic Death-Destiny slaughter maps, all but one of which are Boom-compatible and portable to nearly all engines, and put them into a compilation in a way that made them so they can only be played in ZDoom.This is vandalism. You then accuse others of being newfags when called out on your malfeasance. You are worthless, and should kill yourself immediately in a painful and humiliating way.
>>12458304They're all free My Man & run on just about any old compu you have lying around so go get them anytime you want. Did you need help getting them to work?
>>12457870>I HAVE AWAITED YOUWhat do you guys think about the new cutscenes? I like them but the old ones were great with al drawings and narration
>>12458261storage is pretty cheap relative to the size of the files just get an external
>>12458324You misunderstand. Never mind, it doesn't matter.
>>12458330Oh ya it has an SD card slot. Can GZDoom launch from other drives? If I was feeling really ambitious I can install a secondary internal NVMe but when I'm working with 1.8ghz CPU & 4GB RAM I have to squeeze that little extra performance & power efficiency from the eMMC. I could swap the 64GBs for a 128GB EMMc but that would either involve reinstalling Ambian from scratch which isn't easy on the Pinebook because it doesn't have it's own UEFI until towboot is installed on the SPI or cloning the old chip then launching from an OS on the SD card and using gparted to expand the partition in the new chip to the full 128GBs and.. that'd be a pain in the ass.
>>12458328the poems should've been kept for those new lore books, wery well written. I miss old cutscenes but they were probably removed as they don't fit well with altered plot
people who do crisscross lighting like this have a 70% chance of being fucking based
>>12458375>weryI'm retarded
>>12458320>content compilation is only usable in ports that support all of the compiled contentWhat were you expecting?
>>12458320>forgot to include terry wadsThreatening to others to kill themselves is actually vandalism, you're nothing but a useless weakling,my argument is still less wrong than your mindset and opinions
>>12458523Not him, but it really does feel weird to compile vanilla content into a ZDoom compilation.
>>12458562like what?
>>12458564>didn't look down before the fallAlmost perfect comedic timing.
>>12458564https://voca.ro/14M1f6siZZJQ
>>12458564>>12458589
>>12457912yeay i was worried i would never get to play with the nice hud in gzdif you want to add another pistol it will need to have a reason to use itmaybe something like a cz75-auto with a very fast full auto secondary fire that just dumps the whole mag in like a second? I'd like to see something like that with a stripper clip reload but that depends on whether you want to bother animating that.Not sure on altfires for the other weapons. There are some obvious shoe-ins like both barrels for the double barrel. Or a grenade launch or seeker missile for the rocket launcher.
>>12457816What are some good alternatives to MEGA in terms of file space?Dropbox and Proton have like 2 GB by default while MEGA has like 20.I'd like a place to host my wads and shit and wanted something else besides MEGA.
>>12458183>I get to fight more enemies? With ONLY a double barrel? Splendid.
Disregard my opinion because I just started, but holy shit in my almost 40 years I never played FPS that is more trial'n'error than Blood. Zero (not checking the source code but I'm confident it's as close to zero as possible) reaction time on hitscan enemies is just crazy. Combined with the fact that most of the hitscan enemies are placed in the most tricky ambush places possible makes it so crazy, you start to question the sanity of whoever designed this. At this point it doesn't even matter if you play slow or fast, they will rape your ass either way. And then you learn all the enemies placement and just go through the checklist "dynamite here, peek-a-boo here, dynamite here and here and here, doorcamp here and here, and then more dynamite, okay you're allowed to improvised in this particular place don't get ahead of ya". It's a completely different experience from all other shooters from that era, even some Delta Force which was supposed to be more slow and tactical doesn't punish you like that. Even though I managed to find almost all the secrets, there's still not enough resources. Especially medkits, holy shit with hitscanners as crazy as cultists you expect the game to give you at least some damn health, at least in secrets, but nope, not a chance. It almost feels like a puzzle game more than a shooter game.Either way, so far I'm enjoying it for the novelty.
>>12459257if you're releasing on doomworld, you can attach file to the post (small wads only)https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/ (small wads only)archive.org (very slow but will probably be available in the next 20 years)you can abuse github for space like create a repo and make a release attachmentask someone to self-host it for you?
>>12459441Play on Lightly Broiled for your first time. Difficulty affects monster hitpoints/damage/reaction speed. On Well Done cultists can kill you in one second but on LB it's much more of a normal fps experience
>>12459487>Lightly BroiledThat's how I'm playing and no it's not, the reaction time is almost non-existent. Sure it's not every time, but some of the cultists shoot you the 0.0001s you looked around the corner. I'll make some video clips next time. Is this really how it is, they have a slower reaction time on average on lower difficulties? Or is it just a speculation, or just gidgud and lower the difficulty? Just googled and it looks like the source code was never released to the public.
>>12459495>Is this really how it is, they have a slower reaction time on average on lower difficulties? Or is it just a speculationYour post is just speculation. You could have started a new game and tested it out in the time it took you to write all that.E1M2 is notoriously hard but later levels aren't as ammo-starved
>>12458097>playthrough furdoom completeDoes this count as torture?
I'm playing through Doom and Doom 2 for the very first time.I just beat the map "Downtown".How is this one possible? I thought you couldn't have multiple floors stacked on top of each other, but this map has buildings with things inside and ceilings, and top floors you can walk on?
>>12459542>I thought you couldn't have multiple floors stacked on top of each otherYou can't. There are no stacked surfaces, just clever use of space and teleporters.
>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<Record a UV Max demo of Frog and Toad MAP05 "Everything I Hate Is Slaughtermaps" (-cl 9)Reply to this post with a demo & your time.Wad download and records:https://dsdarchive.com/wads/frog_and_toad?level=Map+05Example demo in 4:57:https://files.catbox.moe/a1krk6.lmpItalo doom-esque map with fun music. Also a monster can get stuck in the archie closet and ruin the run ha-ha!Previous thread winner:Linux Jank MAP04 in 1:37! >>12444330He also beat every other map in the wad, props to that>>12457816
>>12459441no idea why they started with machinegunners in a game like that but in later episodes and Death Wish theyre kept to a total minimum in favour of dynamite chuckers and plasma boys
"Boy, there sure is a lot of skin in this expansion isn't there?""There sure is!"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzKgcWDcl4
>>12459727Pick something sensible next time.
>>12459441Not a meme, the first 2 levels are actually the hardest. I'll drop some random tidbits that most people already know and may or may not helpEnemies have a finite turning rate and can only attack in front of them, run circles full speed around a cultist to see it in actionCrouching actually does something and gives you a hitscan dodge buff akin to Doom's partial invisibilityCultists that have been hit by a bullet or pitchfork will crawl around like a goofball for a second. Spray from a distance to land the first hit and get up close and focus fire afterAn HECU on hard is harder than a cultist in my own opinion so I don't see why Blood is called difficult to the exact extent that it is
>>12458097>things ok>gay end already>important monster faggot
I am both impressed and annoyed with map 13 of abscission.Putting a monster spawner that is actually out of the map bounds and the spawned monsters are just crushed is a pretty brilliant way to induce anxiety and urgency in the player. At least I was constantly in a rush and worry.
>>12459727I'll get to recording a demo later but I guess this map name is supposed to stand in as some sort of joke?
>>12459727>start with a firing squad of chaingunners in front of you>and a gangbang of barons right on your assNigger, are you for fucking real? Here I was hoping for something that's maybe tough but still worth my time.
>>12459982if you just SL40 you will reliably get outthey're the least of your problems tho
>>12459985*by reliably i mean one in three times
>>12459985NO SHIT? Yeah, I get out of there half the time, but I'm still in a wide open kill zone with no cover and NO FUCKING WEAPONS, meaning I'm stuck between being helpless and doing nothing at all in the precious few corners, or I'm out in the open dodging a storm and slowly getting chipped to death.I'm sure there's reliable strats and a sequence for infighting, but this isn't going to be an appealing or fun challenge for people who aren't seriously seasoned at slaughter built near exclusively on wrangling monster infighting.
>>12459827Becuase Blood is tough on all difficulties, while the vast majority of people who have played Half-Life have never played it on hard.
>>12459993damn i still haven't finished hlLast time I save-scummed myself to a deadlock in surface tension on hard
>>12460001>Valve game>deadlockLol, lmao
>>12460008i mean i was stuck with very little hp and getting killed each time i loaded a quicksave
What's the deal with flare gun auto-aim? Why is it shooting in random directions (both X and Y) sometimes?
>people playing modern wadsi always laugh at >youenjoy your garbage 4000 enemies wads, 32 levels megawads where quality drops after the first two maps (one of which is "muh atmospheric map")ssg everywhereenowadays i just play doom1 wads and have fun, because that's where sovl is.i will concede to you that SOME modern doom 2 wads (after 2001/2002) are still worth checking out, but that number drops exponentially with every year
>>12459441I beat original Blood on the second to hardest difficulty all in one go when I was 16, saving only for breaks to eat and piss and shit
What's the best/intended source port to play Death Wish on? I played it with BloodGDX back in 2020 and haven't tried Raze or NBlood.
>>12460057>D1 wadsbtw found this randomly https://dsdarchive.com/wads/tekonme it's pretty goodalso Doom Damnation recommended in previous thread
Anybody want to help create some table-filler demos for REKKR? We're currently on E1M2 "Down" by Revae. Here's the current demo pack, still in it's infancy: https://files.catbox.moe/5l8jfy.zip
>>12460065>intendedNBlood. Have you read the readme?I'm playing on notblood because i'm curious about the crashes anon mentioned in last thread (none for me so far)
>>12460057I enjoy some modern .wads
>>12459727https://files.catbox.moe/a2a54b.lmpI would rename this map 'I Hate The Fanbase That Play My Maps'It's so short so it's not too bad really, but damn every tile feels like contempt lol.
>>12460057actually neon colors in a black abyss where you shoot the rocket lawnchair for 5 minutes while circlestrafing (infighting kills more demons than you do) is kino o algo
>find hauntingly good MIDI rendition of a favorite track>emotional and brings back some precious life memories>can't use it for Eternity though >because you need to twist its arm to not use a dogshit .sf2>so nobody will and it's gonna sound shit insteadGuess I'll save that one for something else.
>>12460138I'm sure you can find another use for crawlingInMySkin.mid.
>>12460143Lol'd. It was a nice and (mostly) positive memory of a loved one who's gone, but yes, I can save it for something else.Just lamenting again how this port, for how capable it actually is, is also so stupidly feature bare and underdeveloped in some ways.
>>12457848 >walk past this part like a dozen times thinking the logs are just decorations>they're not and all i had to do to progress was climbing my way up themwalking into atlantis, i'm already starting to see what's the deal with this one is
>>12459727ITYTD-max in 5:41https://litter.catbox.moe/idbew2.lmp
>>12459898Heh I think H2H-XMAS does the same in its MAP30…the cubes are gifts
>>12459495>Is this really how it is, they have a slower reaction time on average on lower difficulties? Or is it just a speculation, or just gidgud and lower the difficulty?There's not a very noticeable difference in reaction time, but there is a huge - absolutely fuckhuge - difference in enemy accuracy. I've seen 'lightly broiled' enemies compared to Star Wars stormtroopers, and it's not far off.
Hmm, computer is acting a tad weird and slow today. Better backup things just to be sure.
>>12460114You forgot to say the time which was 3:34
>>12460057Phew what a hipster
>>12460138Record it as an audio file and save it as an ogg, problem solved.
I'm sorry for malding at the thread challenge, they're just often fun, but here was one where I couldn't even get an edge in at all and I had been looking forward to something like that.I'll focus on UDB instead.
>>12460403I think your "malding" was 100% justified.
>>12460403oh, don't feel bad, i can hardly do half the challenges, and if i can, my clear time can be like 20-30 minutes, i mostly just check them out to collect wads for playing at my own pace. lots of gems get posted over the years
>>12460463That's not the point, the point is picking something that's too hard for 9 of the 10 people who still post on this dead shithole of a website is retarded.
I'm losing my shit over the lack of people talking about the new Death Wish. Episode 4 might genuinely be the best one.
>>12460495the new sunken ship map is amazing
>>12459774Is this Penthouse Paradise? I've actually played dirtier mods than that.
>>12460495It's too soon, anon. I'll talk about it plenty when I've had a chance to play it.
because i will probably never finish this seeing that the Armageddon device for Q2R is never coming out, and because the anon who did these skins deleted his account at moddb
>>12460545
>>12460518Such as? Asking for a friend.
Think fast /vr/! It is that time again. If you were being chased by both of these monsters, which one would make you feel more threatened?Top one is beta Revenant sprites, & bottom one is the base Doom II Revenant sprites.(I have no idea in what order Doom displays the Revenant walking sprites, & this was my best attempt at getting them to display the walking animation. Think of it as if the Revenant's are dancing towards you.)
>>12458109>>12458186Not much to say. Blood's art direction changed far less than Duke 3D or Shadow Warrior over the course of development, so we've got a handful of earlier sprite renditions but that's about it.
>>12460625Finished ones look better.
>>12460631Anything interesting unused?
>>12460634Not really, as far as anything never-before-seen is concerned. There are some cool pickups which unfortunately don't have corresponding hud graphics, but I haven't checked the art files. There are also old levels from 94/95 which aren't playable because enemy/weapon behavior hadn't been programmed yet. Seems most of the pre-Alpha screenshots from old magazines were just mockups.
>>12460610Man. It was literally in the 90's. There were mods that replaced every texture with PC-98 porn (virtually unplayable but hot), and there was a TC with evil babes that was horny as hell and way more pornographic than the base game. But I could not namedrop it even though I want to.
>>12460645>but I haven't checked the art filesJust upload them here.
two barrels is cool
>But I could not namedrop it even though I want to.Encrypt it and make the decryption key one of the IDs in this thread lolI may be serious. Not a gooner, I just like to play all sorts of garbage for the hell of it.
>>12460646>and there was a TC with evil babes that was horny as hellWhat, Sirens?
hhahahahahaha let's do this.
>>12460057its ok anon if you don't like ribbiks voids there's always quake and build games for you. just because doom formula has been perfected doesn't mean you have to like it, it just means maybe doom isn't your game
>>12460057>>12460132least obvious samefag bait award
>>12460731>ribbiks voidsI never really got that impression from Sunlust nor his Stardate wads.>>12460314My bad. Also while I was being cynical earlier, the map isn't bad at all. I enjoyed my time with it enough that I will pursue against anyone here that beats my time.Even that Frog and Toad map I UV Maxed felt pretty normal.
>>12460740>Even that Frog and Toad map I UV Maxed felt pretty normal.that wandered from its intended place in the comment but it should be common sense enough to place it in the right spot
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2626953At last I truly see
>>12460743See what? That even the most diehard troonworld sycophants are noticing patterns?
What does vanilla mode do in notblood? Can i have it on for Death Wish?
>>12460894Fixes some small bugs, none of which are really gamebreaking. Yes, you can use it with death wish if you want to, death wish runs even on dosbox afaik
>>12460726It was apparently called "Vixens" ackshually. Watching footage of it these days, I'm not sure how pornographic it actually was (apparently the main enemy reskin was just ripped from Redneck Rampage). But all the moaning when you shot them might have short circuited my young brain.
GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!
>>12460728Wait till you find the one where five enemies are marked as cultists to ancient god, and killing them invokes its wrath.
>>12460495I'm still busy playing.One thing I've noticed (compared to v1.2 I played long, long ago) is the larger amounts of lore. I especially like the little poems.
Death Wish's reliance on Blood's stock textures is sometimes amusing. Evidently even in the modern day, Blood's denizens are still unstoppably obsessed with monkey wrestling and Jo-Jo the Idiot Circus Boy, and not much besides that.
>>12460894Don't use vanilla mode, it disables a lot of bug fixes, some which will cause a hard crash.Only use it for map testing or if you care about gametick accuracy.
>>12461198Well that's because Jo-Jo the Idiot Circus Boy is STILL the best shit ever, faggot.
>32map megawad>look inside>fuckhueg maps so it's actually 4-5 times the length of any original iwadi mean... woe is me i have too much lobster to eat, but I do like compact maps sometimes.yes it's eviternity 2
>>12461426>eviternity 2>32mapwrongAnd honestly, outside of kenosis, ev2 felt more fun to me over ev1
>>12461430>look inside>37map fat fuckjesus mani've only finished the first episode incl. map31
>>12461436I hope you liked battletoads if you keep going.And map37 is just a credits map, so it's 36 playable maps.
>"Oh boy I think I'll visit the Doomer Boards today!">look inside>it's another "John 40oz Vail has a battered woman syndrome episode about doomworld troons who hate him and would press a button that would blow his dick clean off if they could" type of dayOne of these days he'll get wise. Probably not. But hopefully.
>>12461449Folk like that never grows wiser, or rather even if they know for a fact that the result wouldn't change they can't help but still try to seek a different outcome.
>>12461437what do you mean by this? does it get unreasonably ballbusting later?
>>12461503One of the secret stages is basically an fps recreation of a battletoads stage, the one with scooter and lighting gates
>>12458261And now I've also added Aliens Eradication, Brutal Doom in Eday, swapped Terminator to Outposts of the Wasteland and converted the levels from Freedoom 1 & 2 into Doom64 via Unseen Evil. I did a bit of cleaning so have 16.4GBs left. I could clear a little more by directing all mods to a single centralized iwad instead of each folder having redundant copies of Doom II but I should be ok now I can stop downloading Doom mods anytime I want, right ..r-right?
Is there a website that will allow m3 to play via mnk?
Serious Sam is 25 today. You guys want to play it later?
What did you guys think of the new Wizard of Oz level from Death Wish?
>>12461515Oh and Revenge of the Triad! I had that the whole time too. Ok so again if there are any other essentials you all think I should add while my hobby ARM64 laptop while I have a little space left to spare.
>>12461436If you already think the maps are a little long the concrete episode will make you put the wad down
>>12461198I WANT JO-JOI WANT JO-JOJO-JOJO-JO
Also turned out Blood midi files are borked and that's why I couldn't make them play in Nuked SC-55. There's IPS patch but it didn't work for me for some reason. But just setting "--reset gm" for Nuked fixed the problem.Apparently the midis should send the reset signal themselves or something, but they didn't, so Nuked wouldn't play 99% of the instruments on E1M1.
>>12461205Based and circuspilled.
Outfuckingskilled I guess.
>>12461613your filename has your problem
>>12461613Running straight into cultists in a room you haven't been in is a big risk, surprised you didn't due sooner. I would've poked them with a shotgun, seems you got the shells for it.
>>12461615Not sure it's the port problem, it's "vanilla mode", whatever it means. Just like the anon before me, I couldn't find any fucking thing on what exactly this mode actually does.>>12461616I'm replaying first levels because I fixed the midi soundtrack. Still figuring out how the combat works, but after playing the train level at least I'm sure it's a great game either way.
>>12460894>>12461625Vanilla mode forces the game to play like DOS version 1.21. It basically just turns off all the fixes and changes NotBlood applies by default.
>>12461529S'cool. There's no place like home.>>12461545the hell is this, Blood HRP?
>>12461632Good.
>>12461021Making the probably terrible mistake of adding a big new area to my Quake 30th anniversary jam map with only a week left to go.
>>12461698Compared to doom, is mapping for quake easier or harderfrom my limited exposure it always felt like doom's mapping is so fucky it would end up being harder
>>12461705Doom mapping is extremely easy, judging by the vast number of colossal retards who are able to do it.
>>12460201Didn't ask.
>>12461705I find it easier in a lot of ways, but for most people it seems to boil down to whether or not they have a good intuitive grasp of working in 3D space. It also very much depends on what you want to try to make.
>>12461662Blood XHD
>>12461719dlss5 on
>>12461718>intuitive grasp of working in 3D spaceSo you're saying it's like visualizing an apple.
>>12461737>visualizing an appleMore like visualizing a LEGO set that has no instructions, then conjuring the pieces for it from the ether.
>>12461737it's a very apple rotator type of skillset yesbut more like a maoi head assembler than an apple rotatorcan you do this set in your head? if yes you can quake map probably
>>12461021not working, not touching q2modding for the time being to save my sanity but i wanted to experiment with anon's skins with a certain QC character's face
>>12461849
>>12461849>>12461850qbj3 mapper
>>12461850
>>12461851Certainly not me, my tits are barely A cup.
>>12461851That is a loony troon, also since The Armageddon Device is never getting a port to remaster, and since the anon who made this stuff disappeared, i even tried to look for the n64skins but they are gone too i wont be able to work on remaking the original winterized style skins into it, which sucks because replaying tad and window of retaliation made me wonder why the fuck didnt't nightdive and id had the original DLL work as a legacy fork so these maps would work.Carmack would had done that in an hour or twoPlus i joined map center recently, and i must say, shit is grim.
Looks like the prequel chapter from the console versions of Return to Castle Wolfenstein is finally coming to PC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgUruXUfBcA
>>12461849>>12461850>>12461853Lol it's femBarnacleJim
>>12461714
>>12461520nah I don't play shitty games
>>12461719Yuck, it makes me think of the HD packs for Duke or Marathon, it looks super uncanny and fake, like the entire game world is just less alive.
ATTENTIONTHERE'S ANOTHER UNREAL 2K4 EVENT LIVESaturday (3-21-2026) - Unreal Tournament 2004 - 5PM ESTUT2004! at 24.90.156.13:7777GET IN HERE
>>124620692k4 is not that great, when you git gud its all about shield gun abuse and defensive movement, also the weapon balance feels like pool noodles compared to 9999 is great i'd be down for some facing worlds ctf for old times sake
>>12462078we can play bombingrun and facing world ctf on 2k4
>>12462069and these guys do 99 too in the future btw
>>12461613>>12461625>Not sure it's the port problem, it's "vanilla mode", whatever it meansExplosion logic in 1.21(vanilla mode) has a weird sector proximity bug where some parts of maps will not link together. Don't use vanilla mode.Source: https://github.com/NBlood/NBlood/commit/7688dccd1ca8beca7fcb27e4ce345948da241164
>>12461613Turn off vanilla mode, that's a DOS 1.21 bug that has been fixed in Raze/NBlood/NotBlood.
Serious Sam beta picshttps://x.com/Dr_Hingis/status/2035426401705509210?s=20
>>12460495The level "Impure Imagination" probably has the saddest moment in Blood, you feel bad for Caleb.
>>12461529I like when you knock the door. The best changes in this version in my opinion are the boss fight levels they feel a lot better and interesting
>>12461714nobody asked you
>>12461021With a friend's help I've got a cool M_Doom put together for the Deriver, and I'm getting started on an intermission screen too.
>>12461613That's hilarious.
>>12461616>I would've poked them with a shotgun, seems you got the shells for it.If I spot a Cultist that's not active I will always reach for dynamite first.Because it's the funniest option.
Suggest me some wads to playwads I liked:Ancient Alienswads I disliked:EviternityBack from Saturn X
>>12461613How did you get the key icon voxels?
I'm into Death Wish episode 4 and my mind is being blown by the sudden lore dump that happens when you reach the museum level. I've been trying to read all the tomes and stuff from the game, and I'm still not even 100% sure what's happening to be honest. Guess I'll have to play to the end and see what happens.
>>12459727UV-Max in 3:26https://files.catbox.moe/5g3d17.lmpI think I got kinda lucky because the first cyberdemon died to infighting literally 10 seconds after I released him.
>>12462292Blood voxel pack, it's on moddb. Not sure if I like it.
>>12462335>I think I got kinda lucky because the first cyberdemon died to infighting literally 10 seconds after I released him.Yeah the green ones are dehacked shit that have half health
>>12462283Headless Chicken
>>12462347Oh, that makes more sense. I think this is a good map for challenges as far as Ribbiks' work goes just because it's not very long. As far as I can recall, we've had 3 Ribbiks maps now, from Crumpets, SF2012 and now this. >>12462283If you liked Ancient Aliens, you should just try the other stuff made by Skillsaw. Valiant, Lunatic, Vanguard etc.https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Paul_DeBruyne_(skillsaw)
stop playing doom.
>>12462363i didcpma!!!
>>12462368where do you play this? in a browser?
>>12462363Only for today.
>Replayed Turok 1, had a blast, still as fun as I remembered>Remembered Turok 2 even BETTER>Started replaying Turok 2>Get frustrated with the level design although I still love the weaponsKinda rough for me. I remembered it quiet fondly and even planned to grab that Nightdive port of Turok 3, as I never played that one. Now I'm not sure about it anymore. Is this just a me thing or are the levels in Turok 2 just overly long corridors linked with teleporters? And is Turok 3 as a fan of the first game still worth a look for me?
In any case, how the fuck did quake 1 and 2 died so quickly and went back to ostracism once more?>>12462363i did and i played Space Hulk
How different is E3M6 (Inferno) in DW 2.0? It was one of my favorite levels in previous versions but the news page says it's now practically brand new
>>12462363So Heretic then?
the new marathon makes me want to play the old ones again
>>12462439very different, in fact I find new version to be worse
>>12462435>quake 1troons>quake 2Not having an ultra-convenient sourceport equivalent to Ironwail that supports re-release stuff + the re-release not being able to load old classic mods.Also issues inherent to original Quake 2 like limited environment themes and coding requiring a Ph.D. in computer science instead of just being able to fuck around with QuakeC.
>>12462363thisplay doom ii instead
>>12462435Quake 1 lacks gameplay mods, and mapping for it isn't as approachable as Doom.It's really that simple.
>>12462526unlike doom, there were very few singleplayer quake maps but zillions of quality multiplayer maps and now that the multi is dead no maps get made
>>12462648Quake deathmatch as a whole is cursed. You have sweaty tryhards that push out the babbies, and then the sweaties get tired of going circles around with one another, so they stop, and no more babbies show up because either no one is currently playing it or because the sweaties drove everyone else off.The moral of this story is PvP stinks, play co-op.
>>12462654quake deathmatch is a sport where if you're better you just winkids these days are into carebear bullshit and don't want to play competitive fps. even cs is dying
>>12462659See? PvP stinks. Just play co-op.
>>12462660i miss itunfortunately i got old and i'm trash now, can see it in the accs. tore my shoulder too and it's never been the same. i used to be a 40lg player
>>12462654>Quake deathmatchThat's any multiplayer game that outlives its own popularity. The guys who've been playing it since release will mop the floor with anyone trying to get started, and the dearth of servers means said noobs aren't going to find a lmao fuck about server they can amuse themselves in.
>>12461124Sounds fucking hilarious. Love Dooming
>>12461198>he isn't jojopilled in the big 2026ngmi
>>12460625Top>Hey bro, I got something to show you!Bottom>AAAAAAAAAAA
>>12462283>Ancient Aliens>Eviternity>Back from Saturn X>all the same shitI don't get how your tastes work.
>>12462250Alright one last thing: I've started on brightmaps.
>>12462819It's weird how uncommonly we see brightmaps implemented for weapons. I just recently became aware of it from playing Brutal Pack (which has very noticeable weapon brightmaps) and Diamond Dragon (which doesn't) back to back
>>12462823I don't blame authors for not implementing brightmaps, they can be a tedious pain in the ass.But they always look cool.
>>12460057Funnily enough, I tend to avoid doom 1 wads because most of them are literally just "member Doom 1? oh I member!" with little more going for them. Not that they're bad (they're not), just can never feel compelled to play them.
>>12462881Gave Nihility a shot yet? That one's pretty cool.Return to Hadron, Stickney Installation and Double Impact are also quite nice. I especially like DI because it reminds me of how Espi (the guy who made Suspended in Dusk, my favorite wad) makes bases.
>>12462283Hypnagogia
>>12462352>Valiant and Vanguard are separate wadsI thought for the longest time I was just misremembering Valiant's name
>>12462352>mentioning every Skillsaw wad, but the actually good one (which is Heartland)
>>12459727https://files.catbox.moe/g3jh65.lmp5:11I liked this one, it seems I prefer (reasonably) difficult-map challenges over speedrunning challenges
>>12457817[03-21] Postal: Running with Chainsaws updated to version 2.0.https://lossforwords-atmo69.itch.io/postal-running-with-chainsaws/devlog/1464115/update-version-20-south-of-paradise
>>12463192huhfirst Destruction Phenomenon now this
>>12462283scythe 1 & 2alien vendettakama sutrainvasion uacdeus vult 2
>>12462283I think you'll like UAC Ultra.Also Elementalism.
>>12462903>Nihilitythat's one of the most satisfying berserk weapon textures i've seen
I played UT2004 for the first time today. I still remember finding the box in stores when I was a kid, damn I should have picked it up back then..
Anyone got a tutorial for ACS scripting for total techlets? I want to do something nice for the eternity project
I beat Death Wish. And I'm going to be brutally honest and say that I thought it was an incredibly underwhelming finale. It wasn't difficult, it didn't feel epic enough. It wasn't "bad" but it feels highly disappointing compared to the usual high Bloatoid standard. The old Episode 3 finale was like 20x better. It's sad.
>>12463512Feel more or less the same way. Also, the minor changes made to episodes 1-3 seem peripheral and unnecessary. The last episode is good and all, but it the maps feel overall inferior to ep2/3. The final map is weak, but that is almost standard for all retro fps boss maps
>>12463330Bayonets are underrated. With Declarate, it'd be possible to combine that with the pistol/rifle weapon as an altfire.
>>12463512agreed.Most updates to original maps were nice, except new Inferno, the now called Last Resort. 4th episode was nice, but nothing about it felt final, ep3 did that thing better back in 1.7 with spooky silent hill openers, great castle map and then those hard maps later. I liked the ship, museum and village maps the most. The whole thing overall is a bit easier too now, with crazy spam of green and blue cultists which, in my opinion, are not as fun to fight as the classic brown and grey dudes.I also didn't like new music tracks, don't fit with Blood, don't fit with these maps and don't fit with the ost Death Wish already had
>>12463053If you didn't like Valiant even on HNTR, you're just gay.>>12463509I'm not even going to bother with ACS for my map, I'll just do VooDoo like I've always done.I wish you luck though.
>>12463526The only changes to 1-3 that I didn't like was>removing the part of dark tower where you go up the tower and get jumpscared>the part in the silent hill level where orphelia tells you to jumpJust because those 2 moments are soulful, and I was confused that they had disappeared.
Is there a guide to Doom mapping formats anywhere?
>>12463563https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Map_format
>>12463558>I'll just do VooDoo like I've always doneI'm pretty good with Voodoo myself, I wanna use ACS for the things only it can do (modify inventory, take away weapons, play sounds, make earthquakes, check stuff for more complicated triggers) - ironically you could integrate the two by making voodoo dolls cross over action linedefs with "Execute script" action
>>12463616>ironically you could integrate the two by making voodoo dolls cross over action linedefs with "Execute script" actionThat's unironically what I'd do. Someone bakes a script and I employ it with a VooDoo sequence lmao.
>>12463627>Someone bakes a script and I employ it with a VooDoo sequence lmao.Pretty smart, I'll try to learn ACS on my own so if you need some interesting action done for your voodoo scheme let me know anon
>>12463640Hmm. I'll have to think of something.We're not due by the end of March, are we? Because it'll prolly be at least a week beyond that to complete my map.
>>12463616Honestly, just look at some other eternity acs scripts and copy the basic format of stuff. You can see all the scripts for Heartland if you open the .pke in slade, and if you export the maps you can load them with udb. In udb you can hit F10 to open the built in script manager. Also check the wiki:https://eternity.youfailit.net/wiki/ACS_scriptinghttps://eternity.youfailit.net/wiki/ACS_built-in_functionshttps://eternity.youfailit.net/wiki/Parameterized_linedef_specials#ACS_ScriptsNote that Eternity acs is more limited than Zdoom acs. For instance, you can TakeInventory, but there's literally no way to GiveInventory yet with EE.
Haven't been in the thread in a while, qrd on the Eternity project we're doing?
>>12463668Eternity can technically do a lot of fancy things, but it's VERY rarerly used for anything, Skillsaw's Heartland was the first notable project, basically ever.So, a few of us wanted to try to make something with Eternity, just to see what it's like. Basically just a small thing for people to dip their toes.CC4Tex was picked because it generally looks Doom but adds some nice and useful textures to play with.
>>12463645>Note that Eternity acs is more limited than Zdoom acs. For instance, you can TakeInventory, but there's literally no way to GiveInventory yet with EEpretty retarded, I also just discovered it supports Print but not HudMessage so you can't really display messages for the player like in zdoom>>12463642>>12463680fuck me, I just started mine
>>12463559...why!? I thought the Silent Hill one was a cool little reference to the prison in 2.
Just woke up from cryosleep, what happened to DBP, are they dead now?
>>12463745The schism group schismed again. Not that much of a surprise.
>>12457816I'm surprised that there was next to zero of proper dungeron-crawler on the id tech or build engine. We has got close to it with the Hexen and Witchaven but never actually managed to cross the line dividing the FPS and RPG.I occasionally look at old alphas and betas of boomer shooters and have a feeling that the locations present there would perfectly fit some DnD-esque fantasy genre game. But, alas, run-and-gun it is. It is very strange, that there was Ultima Underworld one year, Doom next year, action games were on the rise and rpg games went into their golden era, but nobody tried to cash on the combo of both. The best we got is Daggerfall and Battlespire but that's it.P.S. Fuck captcha. What is that shit.
>>12463785>P.S. Fuck captcha. What is that shit.You don't have enough good boy points. Just keep making posts until your social credit gets high enough to where you only get a single super easy captcha, and then like every other post you make won't need it.
>>12463701>pretty retarded>I also just discovered it supports Print but not HudMessage so you can't really display messages for the player like in zdoomYes. Actually playing with Eternity, and trying to map for it, has more than anything convinced me that the opinion:>"MBF21 killed Eternity's hype!"... is nothing but a sordid delusion. A delusion fueled either by someone who maybe played Heartland, but has never actually modded or mapped for Eternity in his life, and just likes the 'romantic' idea of the underdog advanced sourceport dethroning GzDoom, OR, someone who actually has extensive familiarity with Eternity, but they're so programmer brained that they can't relate with how ungainly and underdeveloped the port is in comparison to people who don't live and work on GitHub.Most probably the former, given that Eternity still only has Heartland after all this time, and Skillsaw himself seemingly never looked back.There's a lot of vitriolic shitting I can do on GzDoom and making content for it (why is the resolution scaling like it fucking is, you stupid fucking turkeyman?), but the port at least makes a real effort to accommodate users and modders, while Eternity still feels like a beta from 25 years ago.It doesn't have GiveInventory because go fuck yourself, and it requires a fucking external program to use a different .sf2 because the devs think that's actually an adequate solution somehow.Anyway, I'll finish my map for this, but as it is now, I see zero compelling reason to ever come back to it, it's a half a horse town kind of sourceport and format.
>>12463785>We has got close to it with the Hexen and WitchavenHexen is a worse dungeon crawler than Heretic is, IMO, and the less said about Witchaven, the better.
>>12463821I disagree, Hexen is more of a dungeon crawler than Heretic. Seeing as big aspect of those games is wandering around and fucking with puzzles and the environment. Hexen leans more into that than Heretic does.I don't want to play either though.
>>12463512*For clarification, when I say "finale", I'm referring the last map of an episode. Episode 4 as a whole is good.
My random recent WAD rec for today:Altruze (find it on dw)
Is BuildGDX still the best way to play Shadow Warrior?
>>12463892I've seen more people recommending VoidSW or Raze, but BuildGDX is still pretty good, especially if you missed the last two or so updates that screwed up something with sound system.
>>12463892Last time I played any Build games, I liked Raze most. It did handle movement and mouse in the most snappy way possible compared to others, where I had to tweak tons of options manually for half an hour and it still felt wrong.
>>12463820Lol, humorously vitriolic.It never stood a chance after its developers all went to work for Nightdive.
>>12463880I always wanted to play in a Mario 64 skybox.
>>12463987Heh, I was thinking, that's a proper Sega Blue Sky.
DBP77 and RWC have been fun so far.Not like walking into a room, telling everyone in it to go fuck themselves and pissing on anyone who gets too fired up.
>>12463880Amazing map. I love that it's maze-y but at the same time not confusing. You learn the city layout as you progress through it. Also it's rare to see this much verticality in a doom map.Oh and it's a boom map. Author didn't make it very obvious in the post
>>12464286I'm gonna have to try that eventually. And with Project Malice. Peeing directly into a screaming Voidspawn's face sounds like it'll be funny.
>I loike to keep this for close encounters
>>12460631i thought that was darth vader
Project notekeeping.>1. 666 Minutes Of /vr/, aka Back To Sat/vr/nI like the title "666 Minutes : Echoes Of Sat/vr/n" as it's more distinct and less derivative of BTSX's title.>2. Eternity projectCC4Tex. Started, how many people are working on a level?>3. Sub MortemFinally has Doomworld thread, thanks!Should probably be in the newspost though.
>>12457817Nugget Doom 5.0.0 just released:https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/tag/nugget-doom-5.0.0
>>12464535What's the hitscan one mean?
>>12464538I actually have no idea
>>12464538>>12464541judging by what it says, I'd assume it gives hitscan attacks from long range a bullet trail so you can more easily identify where that fuckass chaingunner is sniping you from
>>12464538>>12464541It's about the trails that appear when you shoot in slow motion.
>>12464548That's a pretty cool idea, but I'd want it to be a toggleable option.
>>12464550If that's the case then the changelog wasn't very clear
>>12464551it is (hitscsn trails itself is a toggleable option)>>12464538if you meant bullet puff one, it fixes desync discovered in one of our recent challengesthe only gameplay-changing
>>12464535Good to see nugget HUDs still have an issue where if you don't include EVERY possible graphic, NONE of them load.
Any opinions on Tom's Halls?
>>12464636>it is (hitscsn trails itself is a toggleable option)It is? Maybe I'm blind but I tried looking for something like that in the Options menu but couldn't find anything
>>12464696First I hear of it. Sounds vaguely interesting.
>>12464698Check the config file. For some reason, Nugget has a lot of hidden options in there that don't appear in the menus.
>>12464720This is the only trail related setting I could find
>>12464730It's not in the menus because it's a cheat. Type TRAILS and it'll enable them.
Does exist a mbf21 compatibl mod that let drop heal when you kill a demon with melee?
No, because that isn't possible in MBF21.You might get away with making the melee also launch a projectile which itself drops a health bonus or whatever on death (i.e. it collides with something), but then you'll get health back whenever you hit a wall or monster.There's no way to check if what that projectile hit is a monster or a wall, I think. You might be able to play with adding and removing flags to it, but I can't see that working or being a worthy use of your time.It's easier to do what Eviternity 2 did, where some monsters drop health or armor if you gib them.
>>12463917I tried VoidSW and it kept crashing and the air movement in Raze felt way too snappy (AKA not accurate), not to mention all the tinkering I had to do right off the bat (trilinear filtering on by default lol). I guess I'll try the Redux version later since I already own it and if that's bad it's back to BuildGDX.
>>12463892>JavaNo way fag.Seconding >>12463964 , even smoother aiming aside, it just has all the QoL features you would expect from a modern source port. VoidSW can't even do a widescreen statusbar, nor can it load a widescreen asset for it.And because SW modding is virtually dead, you're not forced to pick a particular source port if you want to actually play the game.
>>12465320>muh Java security concernsSkill issue.
>>12465323Sorry, I'm not using java. Just not happening. It's a buggy, unoptimized, and yes, riddled with security holes piece of shit that would've died long ago if not the india.>but the fixed EVERYTHINGStill not installening. Any other port is better.
>>12465320I don't really see Java's failings as being particularly relevant in this case.
Just finished playing through Death Wish 2.0, my thoughts:- I agree that the ending level felt underwhelming. Doubly so after the mapper added so much lore in the preceding levels which seemed to gesture at some epic climax incoming.- The soundtrack was excellent, every bit of it.- I also agree that the green/blue cultists were overused. Meanwhile the gargoyles felt oddly few in number (though I don't actually blame the author - gargoyles are annoying to fight the way they keep fucking off to gods knows where).- I really liked the bits of lore and the poems strewn through the levels. All the more disappointing, then, that the ending felt underwhelming not just in gameplay but in plot.Also, this is just a silly speculation, but... I've just read on the wiki that Bloatoid had some trouble working on the mod because he was busy with his wife's pregnancy. I wonder if his married life inspired him to revamp the story of Death Wish to focus more on the Caleb/Ophelia romance (given what you learn at the very end of the museum map).
speaking of Death Wish 2.0, has anyone found a moon key on the Nightmare level? is there even one? I'm curious about this door
>>12465358The ending of the game seemed to heavily imply that Tchernobog killed them because Ophelia was pregnant and he feared the idea that their child would be vastly more powerful than him. Or at least that's what it seemed like. There was also a lot of stuff about other gods and ancient history that I haven't fully been able to grasp. My main issue with the last map is that it's just too small and easy and I beat it in like 2 minutes. The story was fine and a welcome addition though. Ultimately it's a game about shooting zombies, and therefore a climax should facilitate that.
I haven't actually played Blood in like 12 years, maybe even longer. All this talk of Death Wish (which I haven't played yet either), makes me feel a hunger for it. Tommyguns, dynamite, and burning cultists...How is Raze compared to NBlood?Also, aside from the new episode, what else is different about 2.0 for Death Wish? Would it be worth playing the older version?How tough is Death Wish compared to the base game and its expansions?
>>12465337>that would've died long ago if not the india>he doesn't know about Oracle products
Played some Blood today on my PII233 - Cryptic Passage Map02(theater) and -03(library). SunStorm did an awesome job on this.
>>12465446>Also, aside from the new episode, what else is different about 2.0 for Death Wish? Would it be worth playing the older version?Minor level polishing for eps 1-3. I don't think there is much reason to play the older versions.>How tough is Death Wish compared to the base game and its expansions?Kind of on par? To be fair, Blood is the only classic 2.5d game where shit gets real fast even with basic enemies, but you can also btfo them pretty easy.
>>12457817[03-23] MaxED releases Heretic2R - Heretic II reverse-engineered source porthttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/157708
>>12465557>icecoldduke is upstaged yet again
>>12465610That's not what I said. I don't even know who that is. I just thought it was interesting news to pass along.
Tried that megawad that came out recently, Crematomania or whatever, first map is pretty cool, second map is already annoying with a thousand monsters and has a cyberdemon + other monsters fight around a ziggurat after a massive fight involving a hundred monsters, great pacing for a 32 map megawad....right click file, delete
>>12465671The redpill is that only Doom (registered) is goodDoom 2 + TFC is borderline shovelware and the rest is absolute garbage
>>12465683Clarification: "the rest" = Doom 1/2 "wads" official or notDoom 3, [not retro] and [not retro] are all excellent
>>12465683>>12465693Ah, the chicken tendies palate of shooters.
>>12465669>That's not what I said. Exactly.>I don't even know who that is.https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/120254-heretic-2-source-code-recreation-part-2/
>>12465683No, Doom (registered) is bad too.It would have been good if they had put archviles in where they were meant to go, and not swapped the final two episodes at the last second.
>>12465723>swapped the final two episodes at the last second???
>>12465683>The redpill is that only Doom (Shareware) is goodftfy
>>12465729He's talking out of his ass.
>>12464772Regular Doom can't tell what weapon you killed a monster with. Maybe you can do that in ZDoom. I recommend poking around the dehacked editor to learn what you can do in the base game and MBF21 WhackEd https://youtu.be/PTn-oK8m2KUYou could make any monster drop items when you kill them, or as the other anon mentioned, make them drop health when you gib them only
>>12465729It's true. Originally it went Phobos -> Hell -> Deimos. This was still the case when the Oct. 1993 press release beta was distributed. It had three maps: Nuclear Plant as E1M2, Unholy Cathedral as E2M5, and Containment Area as E3M2. Between then and Dec. 1993 the final two episodes were swapped.>>12465735You are ignorant, and an embarrassment to yourself and others. Sit down.
>>12465742That only tells for the placement of those two maps though.
>>12465671Cool. So leave, then. Ideally go kill yourself.
>>12465760shut up killerratte
>>12465372In the area copied from Lost Paradise map there is a switch high up somewhere
>>12465446>How is Raze compared to NBlood?shit shit shit shitIt's a bad port and you should feel bad for using it. Nblood is perfect >How tough is Death Wish compared to the base game and its expansions?it's more fair and has that balance of a paid product, so don't expect anything particularly challenging. Don't get me wrong the hitscanners can still fuck you up but the difficulty is nonexistent, in fact 1.7 was harder that 2.0 now
>>12465671Overall, CREMATOMANIA is a solid experience that delivers exactly what it says on the tin. No modern mapping sins, just solid old-school gameplay in some really nice-looking environments. If I were an *******, I'd say "it's like a Doomer Boards Project but without the Joe-Ilya maps", but that's selling Killerratte short. Hopefully, this mapset is a good indicator of what we can expect from the budding TimeOfDoom forum and its userbase of people with an IQ well above 40. I eagerly await Doomworld's reaction to the Trump jumpscare in MAP26.
>>12465747https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_press_release_beta#Levels>Demo Map 2 is internally referred to as E2M5 and Demo Map 3 is E3M2, because at this point in development, the episode progression was still "Base" -> "Hell" -> "Corrupted Base" as laid out in the Doom Bible.
finished eviternity2 ep2 (the aztec one)i'm starting to understand why it doesn't get recommended much despite being very impressive and well-madeit just gets to be too much man
i like doom 2 better than doom 1 because of this bad boyno fps shotgun comes close
>>12464739Oh it works, thanks!
>>12465841One of my biggest criticisms of Quake is that its SSG is so fucking ass compared to Doom 2's
>>12465835ngl i think i'm liking the concrete episode better than the aztec onethe aztec shit was kind of uninspired except for uhhh Oblation, which was kinda cool but still pretty tedioussomehow i don't feel that with this episode
>>12465841despite the game's overall flaws i think the Serious Sam 4 Super Shotgun is the best shotgun I've ever felt in an FPS
>>12465841>*BOOOOM!*>*Click-clock-clack.*Such a satisfying weapon.>>12465904Part of the sheer might of Doom 2's Super is how its swarm of shot 'skips' monsters which are already killed by previous shot in the same call, so against weaker monsters you get this absolutely BALLER effect of all 20 tearing through a whole row/group. Optionally the remaining ones continuing after you kill a bigger and meaner one.Makes it feel like a big blunderbuss full of hardened lead shot.Quake's monsters being sturdier, and its SSG not giving you that really generous skipping behavior, really puts a crimp on it, but I still find it good Shambler and Fiend medicine, because it's fast instead.
>>12466035it's pretty good with the quad but then try to imagine doomguy with a quad
>>12465904Can't have it outshining Trent Reznor's Nice Inch Nail Gun, presumably.
>>12465904I keep telling people this, but the best thing you can do is treat Quake's shotgun like a pistol, and the SSG like Doom's normal shotgun.With that mindset things fall into place better.
>>12466035Dusk's Super Shotgun is the only other one I've used in a game that manages to come close to Doom 2's in my opinion. The less spongy enemies and it having an actual reload animation (despite its simplicity) probably helps sell that to me.>>12466057>Quad-damage super shotgun would be enough to instakill Arch-Viles, Hell Knights, Arachnotrons, Mancubi, Revenants, Cacodemons, and Pain Elementals.>Killing mass amounts of weaker enemies like a wave of dominos.>Point-blanking an Arch-Vile and every enemy he's resurrected behind him.>Killing a Pain Elemental, bypassing any lost soul in front of him, and any ones behind him.>Basically just the BFG, minus the ball, and only the tracers, for only two shotgun shells.The lack of diverse powerups is probably one of the old Doom games' biggest weaknesses, but Quad Damage in the OG Doom games would've been absolute euphoria.
>>12466342Actual Quad Damage would be insanely powerful for Doom's damage and health ratios, which is probably why Skulltag's "Doomsphere" only doubled your damage, instead of quadrupling it.Though you could pair it with something like the Rage Rune for 2x rate of fire, or the Spread Rune for 3x the projectiles/hitscans, so with some luck or/planning, you could still get a really obscene damage output, if rarely.Imagine 3 BFG balls at once, which each let of their 40 traces, and you have the 2x damage boost to all of this.
>>12465904Quake 2's is good enough at least, even if not as good. On the other hand, Doom's rocket launcher doesn't feel anywhere near as good as Quake's 1 or 2, and the chaingun is so ass that as a kid I didn't even realize it was supposed to be a chaingun. Overall I'd take Quake's weapons over Doom's any day.
Any Quake maps that require wall surfing for secrets?It seems like such a natural thing, but I can't think of a single example.
Great thread promo image once again, OP.
PSA: Death Wish 2.0 accidentally loads older versions of the maps on BuildGDX, so either wait for a hotfix or play on another source portapparently you can tell the difference on the first map: orange windows = outdated, see-through windows = correct maps
>>12462429Never played Turok outside the N64, but I remember Turok 3 being the weird one out of the 3 games (we don't speak about Evolution).
Christ alive that was tedious. The worst part was unleashing my autism and trimming out duplicate frames for better filesize efficiency.I don't want to do that again.But damn it looks cool.
>>12466057I wanna make a wad like this
>>12461710Only due to Doom Builder.
>>12466912Imagine if they make a version of Doom Builder for smartphones. Little Timmy levels, Little Timmy levels everywhere.
>>12461710>>12466912It's kind of both. The way Doom is set up and some of the shortcuts it took allows for really pretty simple level structure. It can't do as much as more complex games but it works out as a tradeoff, and if you're smart you can make good shit anyway.Then Doom Builder came along and mogged the shit out of all previous Doom level editing software, and it's just a breeze to learn to use.>>12466915Return to tradition, really. Back in the 90s, many kids made maps with the trial version of DeepSea and what not, most which was trash, but some kept at it and got gudder.
>>12466915maybe they can run DETH on a dos emulator
>>12466852That map is making me feel things.
>>12466852hmmsoon
>>12466965Really at this point the only hangup I have is something with the pistol.I've had some people comment they'd like either a visible ammo counter or some kinda tell if they're getting close to needing to reload. I never saw a need for it seeing as you can't manually reload, so if you're about to reload the only thing you could do is magdump before a fight, plus you can interrupt that shit with the sword or by switching weapons.I guess I could at least add an audio cue, I've been wishy washy on the whole thing like an asshole.
>>12466986a rising tone to the fire noise or some other sfx that comes in with the last few rounds like Diamond Dragon does it?
>>12466991I'll probably just add some sorta dink sound when you're nearing a reload.Ideally I'd pitchshift the gunfire sounds but I don't really want to add a bunch of extra sounds into the mod, and I can't fuck with the pitch in-engine because I aim for Zandronum compatibility.
>>12466996i mean a few tiny sfx files shouldn't bloat the filesize much
>>12467004We'll see if I do it, the pistol has 6 firing sounds and I'm admittedly just being lazy about this.Higher pitched sounds would ultimately be the more satisfying choice over just a more generalized click or dink sound.
>>12466996>I'll probably just add some sorta dink sound when you're nearing a reload.Frivolous suggestion: the one from Lemmings when a builder is about to run out of bricks.
>>12466996Could you layer multiple sounds?
Evi2rnity you're pretty and I like you but you're making my 2070 struggleno it's not the gore weirdly, i tested it without any gameplay mods and it still gets fps drops
Wad editor or build?
>>12466852Yeah it's worth it. It's at least fun having a variety of large, different frames for the weapons to sort out. Doing it for enemies is similarly worth it but super tedious, copying so many frames and lines of text. There's always a relief when you run across a sprite angle that obscures the glowing eyes or other 'bright' features.
>>12467152Jizzy (or gUZzy) Doom can't handle complex level design well. ZDoom had its struggles, so it's part of the genealogy arguably made worse by the ten billion variables that come with the options and being hardware-accelerated.
>>12467341build runs on dos at least
>>12467341everyone back then said that build editor was much better than whatever there was for doom
>>12464720>For some reason, Nugget has a lot of hidden options in there that don't appear in the menus.I think it's because their menu system doesn't support paging like dsda does.
>>12467389not dsda bc it has the same menu, i mean like prboom or crispy do
>>12467391Nugget is a fork of Woof, which is a fork of Crispy.
>>12467341>Fred_Barrel
>>12467397Woof is forked from WinMBF
any soundfont niggas here? What would be a good pick for Blood midis?
>>12467550Speaking of which, I would like a full list of synthesizers used for old games with midi soundtracks. Could someone help?So far>Doom 1 and 2SC-55>Duke Nukem 3DSC-88 (not sure about this one, even though Lee himself says he never used SC-55)>Shadow WarriorSC-88>BloodSC-55>Heretic??>Hexen??Unless I'm wrong and it's not SC-55, if you want a soundfont that sounds closer to the actual Roland SC-55, for me the EmperorGrieferus's soundfont is the most accurate.
>>12467550>doom, heretic, hexen, blood, sw, exhumedRLNDGM.SF2>dukeSC-55>strifeOPL
Hey is Crematomania the megawad that the guy from this board was making? Im pretty sure i remember seeing this image a few months ago
>>12465795Found it, thanks. It's indoors, near the door that leads to the lake.
>>12467389It's because those settings aren't too relevant for the average user, otherwise you'd be bombarded with a whole bible of a menu.
>>12466915I used DOSBox and an old editor to make a was on my phone like... 10 years ago. It wasn't great, but the point was the challenge. I don't know if I still have it.
>>12457816Carmack has a special messagehttps://x.com/idSoftware/status/2036511400403538353>>12467574Duke is a case where episode 1 was SC-55 and Everything else was SC-88Heretic is literally AWE32 1mgm.sf2 because choirs, proven by the original raw midi images.Hexen is SC-55 for midi and SC-88 for digital redbook CD audio
>>12467704Thanks for midis.Also this video is two months oldhttps://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/2018425857144926348
>>12467704>Carmack has a special messageBro autistically rambled about nothing for 30 seconds then was like "yeah I'm glad the skinwalker bearing the name of my old company still exists, I guess."Real inspirational.
>>12467574>HereticOPL3 or Awe32.>HexenSame as above or CD soundtrack. If you want to be cute, a recording of N64 one is a neat option as well.
>>12467686it was edmapI don't have the map anymore as far as I know. I don't think it was good or anything.
okay lolwas looking for some map I played in Alien Armageddon and found this
i wasn't asking for a slide puzzle but i solved it and it was ok
>>12467849I skipped map33 with godmode and I couldn't possibly be less sorry. Battletoads is dogshit and so is this secret map.
>>12467078Layering is absolutely an option. But I'm gonna go with pitch shifting first.
>>12457817>[03-19] Blood Death Wish 2.0 update is out>https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-bloodGotta be honest. The fourth episode was kind of a let down. Given the amount of times bloatoid made minor reworks for existing maps, I'm guessing the dev has a tinge of the tism. E1M1 is easily the worst map of the series and feels straight out of the 90s despite all the polishing he has put into it.9/10
de_rats vibes
>>12467918>E1M1 is easily the worst map of the series and feels straight out of the 90s despite all the polishing he has put into it.you never played 90s build trash to say shit like this. DWE1M1 is better than most maps from original Blood
>>12467574I like to think Duke 3D and RoTT is sc-88 for Lee's work, and sc-55 for Bobby's work.
>>12467645Considering that he seethed at my review of map 2 in this very thread I think so
>>12467919Now use shrinker on yourself
>>12465671>says megawad has no faggot slaughter shit>megawad has faggot slaughter shit in map 2Curious. By this metric this Kilereight guy must keep a footlong dildo in his closet which he shoves up his ass while screaming FAAAAG at Doomworld.
>>12467397>which is a fork of Crispy.While it has the same dev, Woof is not a Crispy fork. It's actually a WinMBF fork, and in the early days of Woof, was intended to simply be a QoL improved rerelease of WinMBF that worked on modern machines before the scope changed to what it is now.
>>12468030A large map with few wide open areas and 400 monsters is not a slaughtermap. Anon is being deceiving
>>12468061Takes one to know one, you damn dirty snake. Go play your fag maps, the true fuckers are in court.
>>12462283Yeah, this is tricky. Ancient Aliens and Eviternity are comparable in combat pace. Back to Saturn X is very techbase heavy. Which may exclude the vast majority of wads since they tend to have substantial techbase sections. Its already been mentioned, but Valiant and other Skillsaw wads maybe enjoyable. If you're willing to dip into the slightly older side of things, Speed of Doom is ok (actually its a really mixed bag to me, but mostly people like it) and Going Down.Going Down in particular is goofy mixed with horror and the action gets tense. But its usually a safe bet for newcomers.Oh also Nostalgia, very very safe bet. Almost a little too easy, but still a nice romp.
>>12462283HFFM
>>12468061>A large map with few wide open areas and 400 monsters is not a slaughtermap.Truthspeaker.
>>12468114What the fuck is wrong with that Camel?
>>12467704Where can I get the SC-88 music pack? I got the sc-55 one here https://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#
>>12467704What are the pictures Carmack is hangin up?
>>12468176I believe it's pic related. Which means every day Carmack gets a reminder of the good old days and gathers inspiration by staring at a portrait of Mecha Hitler. A bit problematic, we must cancel Carmack.
god i'm so fucking sick of this place
Is it normal to try physically ducking under projectiles while I'm playing slaughter wads?
>>12468232are you playing with vr goggles
>>12468242No, just vanilla doom without mods
>>12468115He has allergies.
>>12468061Truke.>>12468232That's just immersion.>>12467673They should have an Advanced Options page or something.
>>12468068I should replay HFFM.
>>12467574I just use SC-55 for Doom and Duke.Heretic and Hexen used something else, but they sound good with SC-55.>>12467837Tremendously baste.
>>12468004Which do you mean? I remember someone here malding because he watched a streamer be extremely retarded with his level and then called it bad.At least, that's how he framed it. He didn't specify what he had made or who the streamer was.
>>12467152>modded blind playthroughCan't say I don't do it myself, but I gave ev2 at least an honest try to map 14 purist (with flashlight++ because life's too short to strain to see things in a video game)>>12468098>>12462283Ancient Aliens is almost all gimmick maps and combat puzzles especially in the 1st and 3rd episodes so he should probably jump into the ribbiks/danne rabbit hole
>>12468230I like this map, the opening is a little rough but if you enjoy big maps its quite fun
>>12467574>>12467583Thanks anons. RLNDGM.SF2 sounds nice
>>12459504Playing E1M2 without getting the napalm secret feels like a kick the balls, especially in well done.
>>12467915Well I got pitch shifting in. I still think this is totally unnecessary. But it's there.>>>/wsg/6116121
>>12468481The more I listen to this the more irritated I get. Fuck this I'll just try to go find something that's overlaid with the normal firing sounds.
>>12468502>garand pingLove it.
>>12468481>>12468502Alright, let's try this.>>>/wsg/6116129>>12468517and yeah I had to work in a Garand ping, it was too fitting.
>>12467382Complexity can really depend. If you look at something like Comatose, that's a big open town level with grand scenery and a lot of detail, and it runs like complete shit in JizzyDoom.However, the biggest reason that it runs like shit isn't that it's a big and open town with a fair amount of detail (though that always adds up), but it's because Lainos uses literally 25000 tall grass sprite decorations across the town, including in large areas outside the level you can't even go to. That adds up like fuck.If you remove the majority of this tall grass, performance in JizzyDoom improves dramatically. You might get dips in some spots at times, but personally I managed to mostly stay at, or near 60ish frames per second, with occasional dips to the 40s.Hardware will matter, but I don't have that great of a computer IMO.
Where the FUCK is the minigun in episode 2 of the original holy shit
>>12468652This reminded me i actually know E2 and its secrets badly. Need to replay
>>12467152The purist in me wants to cry seeing that screenshot, but you do you anon.>>12462429Turok 1 is the only one I enjoyed.>>12466852>playing with an N64 controllerHaaaard no for me. I hate this thing with a passion and I don't get why so many are loving the shit out of Goldeneye when ypu were forced to endure the N64's rough performance AND the sin that is the N64's controller at the same time.
>>12468652>>12468661found first chaingun in e2m2 behind one of the yellow doors
>>12468678E2M3 chainsaw in the room near the start
>>12468678>>12468681I'm on E2M4 aaaaaaaaaaa how the fuck haven't I found it
>>12468645If you use ZScript to override Tick and completely neuter the grass logic inherited by Actor, you get a massive boost in performance even with the grass present.
>>12468167First result when you search sc-88 soundfont
>>12468683if you play pistol start you don't have to worry about getting maximum loot from the level :)>>12468681E2M4 chaingun in this nook
>>12467837Where did you get that, if you don't mind me asking?
>>12468689Interesting, tell me more.
>>12468695Posted it ages ago >>11386093Link still works.https://files.catbox.moe/8qtrty.pk3
>>12468692e2m5 chaingun where two barons lower
>>12468709Love this map
>>12468709e2m6 chaingun here but i didn't notice the crusher killed lol
>>12468719ok finished the episodeIt's pretty good actually. When I first played doom I didn't go for all secrets so now I saw rooms I never saw before.
>>12461021Don't wanna wait until Saturday, was feeling a bit inspired now. Making shit up as I go, probably not gonna be my best map by any metric, but maybe it'll be ok.
>>12465764>>12465760That isn't me. I haven't looked into this thread in over a week after barely anyone talked about it in the previous one. I'm actually surprised people discuss it now. Yes I made MAP02 too long. Skip it then, what do I fucking care at this point. It's not like I'm going to get rewarded with free hookers and blow for making a megawad that follows exactly the generic megawad flow.
>>12468762I'm >>12465760didn't think the poster was you specifically, just a random faggotthat map02 IS way too long though
>>12468762Mistah killerout i rove you long time baby just five doomrar
>>12468030>400 monsters spread out on a large map is slaughter now
>>12463880Pretty cool, a nice change of pace from usual doom maps as well as a breather from my pokopia addiction
>>12461449>One of these days he'll get wise. Probably not. >But hopefully.If you were a DB regular before his chimpout, you would understand why half the forum left for "Time of Doom". 40iq turned DB into a shithole. He creates fake accounts to boost forum activity, spams fake interaction threads, spams DBP advertisements on Facebook and then openly whines to "new users" that he never gets any feedback and only hate for DBPs. There is no redemption arc for him. He has become completely batshit insane.
>>12468852You sound like a woman scorned
>>12468852All DOOM forums are made by and for volatile retards.It's okay. This DBF splinter can fly if you believe.
>>12468852He was always batshit insane. Abandoning UAC Ultra 2 because of some small retarded spite with some literal whos was the most retarded thing he did. Then making a literal troll map for the best DBP (Auger Zenith) as a some kind of spergout. Then occasionally having some schizo theories that make Sarais look sane. Talented mapper though. He's the kind of chaotic guy that gets lot of good things done but also gets lot of them undone.>>12468886Nice try, 40oz.
>>12457816What happened to the guy that made Alfonzone?I wonder if it works with UZDoom.
>>12469071Alfonzo? I think he still does his things.Also, I think he mostly made the music for Alfonzone, with people making maps they felt would fit what he wrote.
>>12469071>>12469230It's made by Pinchy.
>>12464534>Eternity Submisssion for unnamed Eternity project: https://files.catbox.moe/l38zmf.wadMap name: High OrbitAuthor: AnonymousMusic: "old school disco" by m0d: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=104441There are likely some bugs I missed, since this map has a lot of convoluted stuff going on. I pretty much just tried to use as many unique mapping features as possible without hindering game play. Sometimes the spaceship polyobject can render weird, but I think that might just be an unavoidable effect of using many floor portals with moving edge portals. Also, some of the scripts/EDF will be modified in a later update, think of it as an easter egg for now.
>>12469779How do I play it?I tried loading with eternity -file vrEEres_0a.wad l38zmf.wad and it saysE_ProcessSprites: no sprite names defined.
>>12469779This is an auspicious day!Eternity now has a third wad made for it.
I saw Revoke post a showcase of Kan:Awakening, and downloaded it. The weapons are well-animated, sound good, everything but something about how they behave causes them to somehow not work properly with nashgore or the damage system of Project Malice.If anyone here is familiar with zscript, please advise on how this could be amended. I don't care if the resulting addon is unpostable due to credit issues.
>>12465671>he noticed uskek
>>12468747PROTIP: To defeat the Cyberdemon, shoot at it with anything but rockets until it dies.
>>12465683
>>12465671Based. Don't let the cretins tell you that slaughterslop makes up for good mapping
>>12469779>>12469789All right, use this link instead:https://files.catbox.moe/5ixcoe.wadI forgot to add "stdinclude("root.edf")" to my EDF file. For some reason, when I run it from UDB it causes no issue.
>>12468665The N64 controller was always weird, but regarding the Goldeneye part: It's not really a favorite of mine, but you can't deny it was fun to play spiltscreen back then. Some people in my friendgroup didn't have PCs back then, so this was a way for them to get into some fun FPS nights as well. >Turok on N64I have never played it on the N64, played the shitty PC ports of 1 and 2 back in the day. I imagine it being quiet the pain regarding Turok 1's platforming, but maybe some other anon can tell you something about that.>>12469826Good slaughter takes skill to make. The alternative would be less monsters but limiting the player in their movement more. Pick your poison. Somehow we gotta keep a game from 93 challenging. And a good slaughter map is like a combat puzzle to solve.
>>12469826>>12469832you're complaining about slaughter, yet i see no evidence of that while playing this mapset. are you guys just talking shit because you larger maps? the enemy count isnt even that high to begin with
So, what's the best version of Blood right now?
>>12469836*dislike larger maps
>>12469839Blood.
>>12469841Type A, B, AB or O?
>>12469843Type C.
>>12469852
>>12469823No, rockets are still faster / more effective than shotguns or chainguns, even with a radius damage resistant target.No contest with plasma or BFG of course. But you won't have the latter in E2 and only have the former if you brought it through intermission.
>>12469836That retard's been shitposting about slaughter for months now, just ignore his dumb ass.
>>12469843A, B, AB, or O?>>12469852C.Okay now what.
>>12469864take it easy, killerrat
>>12469836but I didn't complain about slaughter? I tried to explain to that dickhead that what he calls "Slaughterslop" actually takes skill of the mapper to make. At least the good slaughtermaps that go beyond being Nuts in a different flavour.
>>12468230I've been looking forward to it, though I think 'secret levels' are best when played at the end of a wad as opposed to halfway through it.>>12468809Purgbro!
>>12469852My favorite type.
>>12469864He's probably just malding because he got filtered by some Ribbiks wad and had to admit he's not as good of a Doom player as he thought himself. Sounds like a skillissue to me.
I replayed Chasm recently. Are there any mappacks for it that are worth my time? Are there any to begin with?
>>12469836Did you know: at 206 monsters, Plutonia 32 is still considered to be slaughter. It's even in the Doomed Index!
>>12469875How's Evi treating you so far? I never finished the second episode, let alone with mods.>>12468809Good to see you again. You bless us with cute demon girls every time.>>12469886The people don't want you to know, but Eraser is slaughter. Why? There's an arena with something like 150 monsters in it, and the true ending holds at least 1/3rd of all the monsters in the map.Thinking about Eraser just makes me want to make my take on hell, which would probably take after Hellraiser's take on hell. As an aside, a friend once told me that mappers usually aren't modders, and modders usually aren't mappers. That I think making a map is easier than actually working on Deadbolt's upgrade to Decorate/ZScript is pretty telling.
>>12468693bottom right is the filename of the map. I found it in the files of Alien Armageddon mod for Duke 3D. Used DNSHOWMAP cheat to look around
>>12469902>How's Evi treating you so far? I never finished the second episode, let alone with mods.Pretty good surprisingly. Project Malice monsters are set to 'fast', and I've been experimenting with Deimos-1's original 1.5 damage scaling for Phobos Delta. It's been a nice 'sweet spot' for me.Hardest/most frustrating part so far has been the teleporting zombiemen room in map31.
>>12469885There's three to my knowledge: The official expansion, a mediocre one from 20+ years ago, and the pretty good recent jam.
>a minimum of two posts mention something negative about slaughtermapsIT IS THE SLAUGHTERSCHIZO POOPSOCKER PISSMAXXER SAMEFAGGING
>>12469949You might kill me, troonworlder retadus autismus maximus. But you will never be able to remove my grade AAA man-spunk of true and honest slaughterslop hatred from your tender pink folds. I will impregnate your brain with my alien spider-babies until you see your sinful slaughterslopper sloppy toppy ways.The true fuckers are watching, son.We are coming for your motherboard, and we will make it into our MILFboard. We will hit the GPU until it turns into a g-spot predilect ullulation, AND YOU WILL CUM.
>>12469949He ain't wrong,though. Many great maps have been ruined with slaughter-slop.
>>12469990god you're such a fag
>>12469949I didn't even see them, but now that you mention it, yeah, slaughtermaps suck
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>>12470050>slopYou can say "shit" here.
>>12469843O Negative
>>12463559I really don't get why he keeps simplifying The Black Tower. There was also that part where you go into the miniature forest and each tree takes you to a different area which was cut from 1.7.
>>12470120something not everyone knows about build mapping is the very strict nature of map limits. DOS limit is 8k walls and every map has to be designed around it. It's tough choice to have to cut something for free resources to add more detail to something else. Modern limit just doubles it to 16k and it's still sucks. This thing is so deeply interwoven with the engine you'd have to start from scratch to remove that limit. Doombros have it easy
>>12470126I realize these things aren't necessarily directly comparable, but 16k lines is still a pretty high number. Also, vanilla doom will usually start having savegame overflows if your map has more than like 4k-5k linedefs. For reference, Sunlust (random example) has only 4 maps with more than 16k linedefs:https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP16:_Lost_Antiques_(Sunlust)https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP24:_Dying_on_Cue_(Sunlust)https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP28:_Maelstrom_(Sunlust)https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP30:_God_Machine_(Sunlust)How many walls does the map actually have?
It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!Come play some SRB2Kart!How to join (The short and easy way):Download the All-in-one repack: https://mega.nz/file/3dUUWTbR#Ir3l9U2JAKSdT84wQwbKsgQ1Go39xdCCznpF2ChCgmcExtract it to its own folder (NOT the desktop or program files)Run "SRB2Kart-Neptune (Connect to vrkart).bat" and wait for any missing files to download in-gameDO NOT run "srb2kart.exe" and expect to be able to join the server.If you don't have a 64-bit machine/OS for whatever reason: Copy the contents of the 32-bit folder into the main folderHow to join (The longer and harder way):Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exeGet the custom client we use: https://codeberg.org/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.5.1Get the mods either automatically in-game or at: https://macgu.fun/repo/srb2kart/Connect to macgu.fun (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOWWe also have a Mumble server!Address: 51.161.34.159Port: defaultPassword: endoom>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?No.Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)
>>12470138>but 16k lines is still a pretty high numberit is but also kinda not. For example my Sneed map for Duke/vr/ had to be gimped to fit into the 16k limit>How many walls does the map actually have?The Tower from Death Wish? Don't know exact number but I can bet it is reaching the limit of 8k
I love Doom and Doom accessories. yup.
Any WADs give EP2 vibe?
>>12470232Hellbound is full of iwad references.
>>12469779waow, gotta try out
>>12463820I think in part this is a self reinforcing phenomenon. Not many people use Eternity, which causes people to submit fewer bug reports/ feature requests so the devs aren't sure what to improve, and there are fewer people volunteering to become devs themselves. Eternity can't really do more than gzdoom other than some portal fuckery (which I assume is more performant than 3d-floors proper) and surprisngly, vanilla demo compat. But other other ports are generally for demos, so Eternity falls into an awkward middle ground.>Skillsaw himself seemingly never looked back.Skillsaw hasn't made anything else since Heartland either, has he? (even though he said he'd do something for mbf21). He's also stated on the "Evening With Nirvana" podcast that he uses Eternity as his default port for playing doom, so I'm pretty sure he's still a fan. >it requires a fucking external program to use a different .sf2 because the devs think that's actually an adequate solution somehow.They might actually address this if someone submits a request.
>>12470376>They might actually address this if someone submits a request.IIRC multiple people on Doomworld complained about that years ago, and the answer really just was to use the external program.You could try submitting a request, but I doubt you'd get a different outcome.
>>12470156GGs
Any recs for wads with lots of vegetation, gardens and vegetables/fruit?. Tired of fucking rocks rocks rocks, hell rocks hell rocks, cave rocks cave rocks
>>12470495Avactor, Lost Civilization, Eviternity 2
>>12463820If you are >>12460138, is there anything I can do to help?I've recorded an OGG out of a MIDI playback for this thread before >>12366405, so I'm pretty sure I could whip you up a usable file if I knew what the MIDI and soundfont were.
>>12470553Not him, no, but it's fine, I found some module music to consider, which would probably suit the level better anyway.I'll save the Good MIDI for something else.
>>12464534>be member of Tchernobog's Cabal>suffer seasonal allergies>take Benadryl>accidentally take too much>start seeing spiders>oh, that's just Shial, that's fine>start seeing the Hat Man>see more spid->wait a minuteCRUDUX CR-
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>Hold still!
>>12469779here is some playtesting on easy difficulty https://files.catbox.moe/weojdd.lmpimo i should be able to beat the map easily on easy difficulty
>>12471304oh shit nigger eternity does not have a speed up/slow down function so rewatching this demo will be a pain. I will write down some thoughts so you only need to watch my shitty demo at most one time:a) In general, instead of removing monsters on easy difficulty, add more medkits and armor bonuses, and perhaps more ammob) Make the switches face the center of the room, instead of the wall, so that you can spot them easier (I wander around a lot near the start of the demo because of the switch)c) about 6 min in I get shredded by chaingunners that I cannot even look up to shoot atd) Instead of nerfing the spot where I died at the first time, add a soul sphere on easy difficulty.e) Add more armor bonuses after the mega armor (at least on easy) so that you can replenish the mega armorf) Berserk by the yellow key, plus armor bonuses in the area, since I died on the way back from the yellow key the second time
