Considering that 30+ years later the DRM of the arcade version has yet to be cracked, what's the best truly playable version of the game?And what the fuck is keeping romhackers from figuring this shit out? A 1994 game can't possibly be that complex
Vertigo my beloved
>>12462331Babe
>>12462315Saturn and Playstation have their own drawbacks but it's generally agreed Saturn is better overall
>>12462331For me it's diablo
>>12462497Always bothered me how they made him the smaller rex pallet swap. Being diametrically opposed to Blizzard essentially makes him the main villain so it should be as intimidating as possible. Meanwhile Sauron being the more heroic rex would benefit from the smaller size making him underdogish in comparison.
>rise of the robots but with dinosaurs
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>>12462506It's because of their lore. Sauron is probably the weirdest beast because his whole thing is "he's always hungry". I think it was an awkward description of trying to basically paint Sauron as more of like a force of nature type character, he's a gluttonous predator but that's just his animal behavior not necessarily "evil"Diablo on the other hands main gimmick was basically being a demon/satanic dinosaur, his main character trait is his apparent sadism and ability to breath fire/desire to burn down the world and cause suffering, so while Sauron can be the brute Diablo is more reliant on supernatural power if that makes sense It doesn't really matter but in the very brief comics they made that showed human clans of the monsters, Saurons followers were more Thor/Hercules looking fuckers and Diablo had like tribal evil looking followers led by some Jafar esque Warlock guy
>>12462802dont be sillyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y9_tnNHKmY
didn't a fix came out awhile ago on a proprietary emulator or something?
>>12463578yes the MOO Demo 1.0 Primal Rage 2.3 Emulator leaked two years ago. it's still available and easy to find
>>12463604man you can't play with a keyboard? that's some bullshit
>>12462315Those dead skeletons are badass
>>12464125it's the background from the final stage
>>12462315I had it on Game Boy but that's probably not it.
>>12462331i had that toy growing up
>>12462315Forget romhackers, it's funny vibecoder faggots hasn't already figured this shit out as well...
>>12464897game is too niche nowadays
>>12464936True but it was everywhere for a moment in time. I don’t think I was allowed to really play it because muh gore or whatever, but at some point I did get to try it during its height in popularity. It feels like every pizza place had a primal rage arcade at one point but since I never played it much just saw it everywhere it doesn’t stick in my mind and I only remember it being a thing when it gets brought up on /vr
Would love to own a cabinet. I never did see it in the arcades back in the 90ies.
>>12463604cant someone port this shit to work on mame?
>>12462315What does the DRM do? Is it one of those antipiracy things that breaks the game in some way?
>>12469631Most arcade hardware has some form of DRM that makes things like these happen when you try to copy the ROM/play a copied ROM:>graphical glitches that wouldn't happen on official, untampered hardware (this is what happens with Primal Rage)>preventing the bootleg hardware from booting up at all>a suicide battery is triggered that kills the original hardware alongside the bootlegThat third point is also used to give games an expiration date so arcade owners are forced to buy new ones.
>>12469631Some of the most noticeable issues is your character randomly dropping to the ground and characters floating/hovering when getting hit
>>12462331looks sick. wish the whole roster were chimeras like her and armadon instead of run of the mill dinos/gorillas
This and Dino Rex are really coolMonster fighters are severely underloved
>>12469396mame wouldn't accept such hacks. It's just guessing at what the game wants returned from the security chip.There was a dude that was working on this type of security chip but he went and died of cancer some years back. What a jerk. Couldn't hold on for a little while longer to finish his work.
>>12470287Is that a vagina behind the timer?
>>12472961pornbrain
Primal Rage is cool, but I can't get behind special moves performed while holding one of the attack buttons. The PS2 version has Street Fighter motion special moves. That version is playable, but still a bit busted.Now if only there existed an arcade version with SF inputs.
>calling piracy protection on a 30 year old arcade game "DRM"
>>12473276The point of DRM is preventing you from doing stuff with your product the developers don't want you to do. Such as making bootleg arcade boards or playing the ROM on different hardware.
>>12462315But is playable on mame without issues, have played it for a while, so what do you mean "drm hasn't been cracked" because the onky thing of this game is needing a CPU running at over 3 GHZ and nothing else.The only arcade games not cracked would be the knights of valour and even those are in doubt.
>>12473453Apparently there have been persistent issues with the emulation due to uncracked copyright protection, I believe one oft cited issue is gray blood. Dunno if this has since been fixed or not.
>>12473406What's next, are you going to call Sega Channel "SaaS?"
>>12473453>But is playable on mame without issuesGameplay issues are not noticeable if you don't know how to actually play and just button mashEven then, you didn't even see how when characters fall to the ground they awkwardly float in mid air for a bit? That's not how it's supposed to go
>>12473491>smug semantic bullshityou could retroactively consider stuff like this DRM, but if this is all you have to make yourself feel good, then sure
>>12473276that's literally what it is
>>12473661>>12473952Imagine being so brainrotted by nugaming that you unironically refer to arcade PCB copy protection as DRM
>>12473959DRM is just a euphemism for copy protection
Yeah using modern terms for old software is jarring.
>>12473490Never saw issue and have played primal rage since mame 0.189 and there is red blood.>>12473527I played the original arcade and see no issue (cpu of over 3 ghz).The moves are a pain in the ass to do but can be found online (ignoring those retards that go with numbers and similar shit) simply keep pressed X button make shoryuken motion and release button simple as that, and the street fighter motion was added on the updated arcade version which hasn't been dumped yet.Besudes your logic makes no sense since issues are noticeable if you mash buttons but not if you play.
>>12470271Yeah this game needed some crazy rich person to fall in love with it and fund a proper sequel with no stupid human fighters and like ten more characters, all lovingly modeled in the same way as the originals, plus new original models for the palette swap characters. The monsters are just so cool. Also yeah more weird things like >>12470271 says would be good.
>>12462315>And what the fuck is keeping romhackers from figuring this shit out? A 1994 game can't possibly be that complexnobody ever gave a fuck about primal rage.
>>12473491hey.dont saas me
>>12469723And in primal rage case the "drm" is the about to die or dead hdd because too old.Not joking about it those hdd are dead in 90% of cases which i assume they call "drm" to avoid using it.>put regular used hdd for arcade machine because cheaper.>arcade has to move a lot and isn't treated with care during transportation.>arcade machine is poorly done so generates ton of heat but no heatsink or cooling fans.You know the hdd are dead no need to test them because those conditions are the worst (hardware properly cooled last longer) which explains why the only known dump is the original and not the updated version that changed the moves to make it similar to street fighter.
>>12474858The original Primal Rage does not use a hard drive. It's a gigantic PCB with EPROMs, and while yes, EPROMs can become corrupted, they actually seem to have a very long period of data retention, with multiple examples of ones recorded 40+ years ago still retaining the data from their original burns. While I don't have personal experience with ones dating back to the late 70s, it seems that they too likely still hold their original data.As for PR, apparently my boardset that I've had for probably 14 years was a Japanese version, I assume the same as the one that's been dumped.
>>12474870Nope is an hdd game i think you got confused with another game that was on a pcb board at start but the arcade changed revision thus the game was put on hdd for the new arcade machine.Why do you think it has a chd dump? Is simply a compressed hard drive format (later used non hdd games).
>>12474912No hard drive disk for Primal Rage https://adb.arcadeitalia.net/dettaglio_mame.php?game_name=primrageYou are probably thinking about Primal Rage 2 which does use a hard drivehttps://adb.arcadeitalia.net/dettaglio_mame.php?game_name=primrag2
>>12474912I HAVE a Primal Rage PCB. No HDD. As the other anon said, the second game, which is a proto, does have one.
it's a suicide chip or something. fuck with it and it kills itself. difficult to figure out.
>>12475002Primal Rage does not have a suicide chip
