Let's give Vice City constructive criticism. What do you appreciate about it and where do you think it falls short, and why?
Why did we have to wait for San Andreas for good controls?
>>12464573Improvements over GTA 3>motorcycles>aircraft>weapon variety>more safe houses>more side contentDowngrades from GTA 3>worse map>worse missions (less challenging, more bullshit, less fun)>almost no original music, love fist blows>worse talk radio>story pacing falls apart with the asset missions
>>12464579>worse mapNo one can beat this bullshit.
>>12464579>>motorcyclesThe swiftness with how you can steal them is a big reason why VC > 3
>>12464584>entering wichita gardens via the porter tunnel>just to go back to staunton via the lift bridge???
>>12464573What I like:>Legitimately cool setting>Big name actors that are actually taking it seriously >The story is a little generic but still great for a video game >The characters are memorable >Best radio in the series >Most missions have various ways to complete themWhat I don't like:>The map is super small>The handling of cars can be very bad>Motorcycles are near impossible to handle >It needs more side missions and activities >A game that takes place in Miami kills you if you try to swimVice City has all of the pieces needed to make a 10/10 game but they didn't leave it in the oven long enough. It's still a great game but it could be a masterpiece.
>>12464573The western island feels woefully underdeveloped/unfinished. There's tons of buildings haphazardly set down in alleys and whatnot with little detail.
>>12464590>>It needs more side missions and activitiesThis is more of a 'in retrospect' thing, but VC really feels lacking if you take the series in totality as a whole
>>12464579>worse talk radioWhat went wrong?
>>12464618annoying, unfunny woman
>>12464584VC map is this bullshit but sideways.
>>12464573Appreciate:>Music>Atmosphere>Missions, balance between freedom and constraint>The car export business missions are fun>Weapon variety decent >Motorbikes are fun as fuck to use>Helicopters are good>The hidden packages are minimal and give actual in game benefits Falls short:>Some of the characters are fucking annoying/boring/ 1 dimensional>You can't swim>Parts of the map are too empty, although this isn't noticeable if you're driving a lot>Some of the missions are annoying and too easy to fail due to the game's clunky controls/mechanics (inb4 git gud)>Anything to do with boats is pretty shit because of the lack of swimmingOtherwise I'd say the game is probably my favourite GTA
I can't go back to 3 or VC anymore. Maps are just too small for how little there actually is to do in those games.SA is better, and the camera controls make it feel less ancient.
the only thing it had over 3 was motorcycles. and they couldnt even allow you to do flips on them. 3 had better graphics, better visual style, and most importantly, law enforcement was much more fun to be chased around by. there was just something really off with how vc looked/felt to me. the core gameplay felt like it shouldve came before 3, not after. ill never understand why people jerk this game off so much in comparison.
>>12464824>ill never understand why people jerk this game off so much in comparison.Because it's baby mode when compared to 3. I remember there was an anon crying about fucking Turismo on GTA 3 being too difficult.
>>12464824> ill never understand why people jerk this game off so much in comparison.I guess people really like sun, beaches, and gary numan cars
>>12464590This is why im so excited for 6. Even if i dont like the main story, the setting of Vice City with RDR2 levels of detail sounds amazing.
>>12464824>ill never understand why people jerk this game off so much in comparisonMuh soundtrack muh Billie Jean.
>>12465081>on GTA 3 being too difficult.The hardest part of GTA3 is the Patriot Playground missions
>>12465227Only if you're a shitter who flips the truck
>>12465227Gripped is a pain in my ass. All of the other vehicle missions are a cakewalk in comparison.
>>12464573Why do all the console versions have this really shitty looking motion blur but not San andreas?
>>12465256The trails in the option in the menu.You can turn them off.They're also included in the PC versions.San Andreas also has it, but only when driving/flying at high speed.
>>12465259Also, it looks excellent on a CRT.In fact, if you turned off trails, you didn't beat the game.
>>12465227That is true.I also have almost the most nostalgia for them as it makes me remember Chatterbox FM that I listened to when I was doing the Shoreside Vale one (best talk radio in the series, VC and SA were disappointments in comparison).
>>12465262the lighting effects look better with trails on. i always turned it off when 3 was the current game, but now i always leave it on.
>>12464803>Anything to do with boats is pretty shit because of the lack of swimmingjust standing on a boat is legit one of the most dangerous situations in the gameeven driving a boat could kill you too (thoughbeit rarely), because you can be pushed below the water level and have your health drain gradually without realizing it
>>12464573Some games drag in the middle or the beginning but vice city drags in the end. It feels like there should be a lot more than there really is, and what is there isn't great. The bank robbing mission should be this awesome event but it's just kinda crap you have to cheese after you leave the bank.
>>12465262I was playing on a crt and it still looks like shit. It should only happen at high speeds.
>>12465159kill yourself
>>12464584Anon...
>>12465426I just hop in a dodo and fly across
Do you wear a symbol of power and fertility around your neck, /vr/?
>>12465432Yes, and I always style my hair with Sissy Spritz
>But Tommy Vercetti is innocent!
>>12465081This mission after Turismo is more than twice as hard. You have to torch 6,000,000 Chinese Triad gang members in 2 minutes with a flame thrower, but they rarely spawn close enough together so you always run out of time
The map is small (definitely not a categorically bad thing always) and I had no idea what to do in the last parts of the game to take over enough businesses or something. I didn't even know where to start without guides and the funny thing is I had already beat the game before.Also the gunfights aren't super fun.
>>12465227I hated this mission
>>12468270>run outside>go up the stairs overlooking the parking lot area>blow up the vans with grenades or an M16>????>profitthe difficulty is way overblown
they added helicopters but not a single mission requires you to fly them (RC doesn't count)
>>12468354Brown Thunder
>>12467757Just turn the camera around with L1 or whatever platform you're playing on. They'll usually spawn in a group of like 3-4. I will say, sometimes it doesn't work and other times you'll be attacked by 14 gang members at once.
>>12464584Is this the mission I think it is...
>>12464573entire western island is poorly designedhalf of the eastern island is taken up by a barren monstrous beachnorthern half of the eastern island has nothing going onin fact it feels like they ran out of ideas for map design after finishing Ocean Beach/Washington Beach area of the gamehaving a map based in the tropics along with having boats/seaplanes yet not being able to swim is stupid
>>12464824zoomers latch onto 3 for "much Y2K" vibes is the same as millennials latching onto VC for "muh 80s vibes".
>>12471501I'm 35 and GTA 3 is my favorite with SA being my 2nd favorite. GTA IV is a horrible game. VC is just the worst of the PS2 games, yes... even including LCS and VCS.
>>12472883I'd take GTA IV over SA. Even if they both diverged from the traditional GTA formula that I like, IV doesn't feel like an underbaked stepping stone at least and does what it set out to do well.
>>12464573>best radio in the series>cozy 80's miami tropical setting>motorcycles are very fun>the seaplane handles 1000x better than the plane in GTA III>the attack chopper is the best in the series>exploring little tucked away areas like the lighthouse or the rich neighborhood's backyards>3 tiers of weapons, lots of different choices>katana>cop ai improved a lot over GTA III, very aggressive, bike cops and spike strips add challengebut>The Driver is a really annoying race>Messing With the Man can be tough to fill up the Chaosmeter in the time limit>long loading zones when crossing bridgesOther than that I give VC a lot of praise. Not being able to swim didn't bother me, couldn't swim in GTA III either and in Sonic Adventure and some other games around that time you'd die if you fell in the water too.Also>GTA III release date: October 23 2001>GTA VC release date: October 29 2002The devs deserve respect for getting Vice City out the door in such a short time.
>>12473303You can cheese Messing with the man by just shooting an already blown up police car
>>12464573I really loved this oneOne of the few things I hated about it was that Tommy wasn't able to swim... I remember the first thing I did was to cross to the second island and steal a Helicopter. That shit was awesome.I was 15 years old when I got it.
>>12473298>IV doesn't feel like an underbaked stepping stoneDelusion at it's finest.
>>12464573Very much enjoyed the hidden underground train area in VC. I remember stumbling on it one day and then showing my friends it but not how to actually get into it. They were super jelly.
>>12473386Testing this.
>>12473303to this day i still can't understand how some people say best radio or whateveri mean i get it's subjective an up to preferences and many are fucking suckers for le 1980sbut san andreas radio is pretty greatit has the 1980s and more but still many go with le 1980s of vice citydon't get me wrong i even like a bunch of stuff from it and i'm not a vice city denier like many of the faggots around here on the internet who insist that vice city wasn't pretty much synonym of gta back in the daybut still
